Galley Hill / London Road
Swanscombe
01322 386440
http://georgedragonswanscombe.co.uk/
https://whatpub.com/george-dragon
Above photo circa 1910. |
Above photo circa 1912. |
Above photo 1930. Dressed for the Annual Beano. From
http://www.garyvaughanpostcards.co.uk/ |
Above Google image, September 2015. From
http://www.garyvaughanpostcards.co.uk/ |
Above photo, February 2015, kindly sent by Bas. |
Above photo, February 2015, kindly sent by Bas. |
Above photo, February 2015, kindly sent by Bas. |
Above photo, 2023, kindly sent by Ian Goodrick. |
Above signs, 2019, kindly taken and sent by Tom Duff. |
Above sign 2023, kindly sent by Ian Goodrick. |
In 1910 the licensee Thomas Hudson sold Woodford's fine old wines and
spirits.
This pub brews its own beer at a brewery titled the "Caveman
Brewery."
The following information has been taken from a book titled, "Swanscombe
in old picture postcards, by Christoph Bull":- The "George & Dragon" was
one of Swanscombe's major pubs and was able to provide spirits,
accommodation and stabling in addition to beer. It stands on the main Strood
to Dartford turnpike road; this section was turnpiked in 1738. The present
building is believed to date from the 1840's but an earlier house existed to
pick up the passing road trade. Until the 1840s Galley Hill was a hamlet
physically separate form Swanscombe itself (which was along Swanscombe
Street), but massive growth caused by cement workers' housing, caused Galley
Hill to merge with the rest of Swanscombe. Note the terraced buildings next
to the pub - these were redeveloped in the late 1970s into industrial units.
The landlord listed is Thomas Hudson who ran the business from 1897 to 1914.
Southeastern Gazette, 15 March 1853.
CROWN COURT. (Before Mr. Justice Coleridge).
TUESDAY. Uttering Counterfeit Coin at Gravesend.
George Felton, 30, was indicted for uttering a counterfeit
half-crown, well knowing the same to be counterfeit, at Gravesend.
Also for uttering a counterfeit shilling, well knowing the same to
be counterfeit, at Swanscombe. Mr. Massey Dawson and Mr. Deedes prosecuted; Mr. Parry defended. ---- Williams, butcher, of Gravesend, deposed that on the 5th
February last, the prisoner came into his shop, and asked for half a
pound of beef-steak, which was supplied him, and for payment of
which he tendered a bad half-crown. Witness, however, detected it,
and the prisoner paid him with good money.
(William) Blackman, landlord of the "George and Dragon Inn," Swanscombe,
deposed to the prisoner coming into his shop on the day in question,
and giving him a bad shilling in payment for some beer. Prisoner
remained there some time, smoking his pipe, and drank his beer at
the bar. John Cooper, constable, deposed that he apprehended the prisoner. As
soon as he laid hold of him, two shillings fell to the ground, when
a man named Rixon picked them up. George Dixon gave corroborative evidence. Mr. Powell, of the Mint, after examining the two shillings, stated
one of them to be bad, and the other good money. The shilling given
by the prisoner to Blackman was undoubtedly counterfeit. In defence, Mr. Parry urged the probability of the prisoner being
unaware that the coin was counterfeit, which he contended was the
inference to be drawn from the prisoner remaining quietly smoking
his pipe and drinking the beer at the bar. Twelve months' hard labour. |
Southeastern Gazette, 16 August 1853.
Petty Sessions, Saturday. (Before Sir P. H. Dyke, Bart., Rev. G. E.
Murray, and H. Johnson, Esq.)
Smashing.
Joseph Pratt and James Parker were charged with uttering counterfeit
coin at Galley-hill, on Sunday week, at the public-house kept there
by Mr. Blackman. A counterfeit half-crown having been tendered in
payment of twopenny worth of gin, by the prisoner Pratt,
prosecutor’s daughter served the man and took the coin to her
father, who detected it to be bad, but told his daughter to give him
the change out. Mr. Blackman watched him after he went out, and
looked through the blind, where he saw the other prisoner waiting,
and they walked away arm-in-arm. Prosecutor followed them till they
came to a constable, and then observed that the prisoner had
something in his hand, which the prosecutor seized, and found it to
be another counterfeit half-crown. Joseph Pratt was remanded for a
week, and the other prisoner was discharged.
|
South Eastern Gazette, 4 October 1853.
County Petty Sessions.
Friday. (Before J. Smith, is Esq. and Major boys.)
Samuel King and Eliza Halfman were brought up by Superintendent
Everest, charged with having, on the 27th inst., at Swanscombe,
felonously uttered one counterfeit shilling to Ann Blackman,
daughter of Mr. Blackman, of the "George and Dragon" public house,
at Galley Hill, and also with having at the same time 12 other
counterfeit shillings in their possession.
The prisoners, it appeared, went into the prosecutors house about 7
o'clock on the evening in question, and called for a pint of porter,
uttering in payment a bad shilling, for which, however, change was
given them, and they then left. Mr. Blackman followed, and at
Northfleet obtained the assistant of a constable, when a scuffle
ensued between the parties, but the prisoners were secured and on
searching the spot where the scuffle took place, 12 other
counterfeit shillings were found in a small bag, all bearing the
date 1853, and appearing to have been cast in the same mold.
Committed for trial at the quarter sessions.
|
South Eastern Gazette, 25 October 1853.
WEST KENT QUARTER SESSIONS.
These Sessions commenced on Tuesday last, before the Earl of Romnet,
chairman, and the following magistrates:- Viscount Sydney, Viscount
Holmsdale, Sir E. Filmer.
Uttering Counterfeit Coin at Swanscombe.
Ann Taylor, 26, for uttering a counterfeit shilling, knowing it to
be counterfeit, at Swanscom. Mr. Poland appeared for the
prosecution. The prisoner went into the "George and Dragon," at
Swanscombe, on the 25th August, and tendered a bad half crown in
payment for some beer. She received back the change, but on her
attempting to repeat the "dodge" at another house, she was taking
into custody.
12 months hard labour.
|
South Eastern Gazette, 25 October 1853.
Uttering Counterfeit Coin at Swanscombe.
Eliza Halfman, 18, and Sarah King, 18, for uttering a counterfeit
shilling, well-knowing the same to be counterfeit, at Swanscombe.
Mr. Poland prosecuted.
The prisoner went in company together to the "George and Dragon
Inn," and King called for a pint of porter, for which he tended a
counterfeit shilling in payment. She received the change, and they
left the house together. The landlord afterwards discovered the coin
to be counterfeit, and followed them. He obtained the assistance of
a constable, and the prisoners were taken into custody. They both
struggle to get away, and King was observed to make some motion
towards Halffman as if drawing something from the pocket of the
latter. After the prisoners had been locked up the spot where the
struggle ensued was searched, and a bag containing 12 counterfeit
shillings was found. On the way to the station-house Halfman said
she brought 13 counterfeit shillings in London for 2s. The coins
having been proved to be counterfeit by Mr. Powell, the prisoners
were found guilty, and sentenced to 12 months hard labour.
|
From the
https://www.kentonline.co.uk By Sean Delaney, 24 December 2019.
Victorian pub The George and Dragon, Swanscombe, could become Domino's
Pizza following Ebbsfleet Garden City planning bid.
Plans have been submitted to turn a 128-year-old pub into a pizza takeaway.
The George and Dragon is a former Victorian coaching inn located on the
corner of London Road and Swanscombe High Street since 1891.
The George and Dragon Pub in Swanscombe could be turned into a takeaway
pizza shop. Photo: Matt Brown/Flickr.
Its taps have been running dry since August when owners Bob and Bron
Veal shut its doors for good.
The couple purchased the boozer back in 2011 and set about changing its
image.
This included obtaining new licences and carrying out a refurbishment to
update its B&B facility to cater for up to six guests.
Only six years ago it was named among the 150 best local real ale pubs
in the country, winning the title of Gravesend and Darent Valley CAMRA
pub of the year two years in a row.
Its success coincided with the opening of the Caveman Brewery in 2013 by
Nick Byram and James Hayward, who went on to set up the Iron Pier
Brewery in Northfleet last year.
Operating from the basement below the pub, the brewery produced a new
line of ales, from the Neanderthal best bitter to a Paleolithic pale
ale.
Each beer's name drew inspiration from the former gravel quarry,
Barnfield Pit, now Swanscombe Heritage Park, where the archaeological
discovery of the then oldest human remains found in the UK – the
Swanscombe Skull – was made.
But it appears even the brewer's intervention was not be enough to save
the pub from extinction.
Approaching retirement, the couple placed the business on the market but
could not find any bidders to continue the business.
Now an initial application by Zaan Ltd, which currently runs a franchise
chain of Domino's Pizza in London Road, Gillingham, has been submitted.
It follows a recommendation by planning officers from the Ebbsfleet
Development Corporation to change the use of the premises to a food
takeaway business.
Historian Christoph Bull believes the building should be retained as a
public house or made into a restaurant.
A marketing statement submitted with the application read: “The George
and Dragon is no longer viable as a public house business, and better
suited to alternative use."
It cited several factors behind its recommendation, including "rising
costs, a demographic shift towards eating and drinking at home for less
money, public health concerns and the smoking ban".
As part of the repurposing of the site, new extract vents and flues will
be installed to minimise "noise and smells".
It also includes rear parking access with room for 10 cars which will be
retained as a "pick-up" point for customers.
Its not the first historic building in the area to be subject to
redevelopments plans, with the All Saints Church opposite having
recently been converted into flats.
The "Alma" Public House in Swanscombe High Street was demolished last
month to make way for a house of multiple occupation.
Swanscombe Councillor Emma Ben Moussa says some of her residents have
expressed concerns at the proposal.
Historian Christoph Bull runs a regular tour from the historic George
and Dragon pub.
He hopes the building can be preserved and used either as another public
house or a healthy eating restaurant.
"There is enough pizza places in Swanscombe," he said.
"It does not need to be drowned in more unsaturated fat."
Although the historian noted he'd sooner see it be turned into a pizza
shop than it face the "same disgraceful fate" as the "Alma" Public House.
Cllr Emma Ben Moussa (Lab) says she will be reading the plans over
Christmas and ensuring her residents' views are heard.
"It seems the George and the Dragon despite being part of Swanscombe is
under Ebbsfleet planning boundaries," she said.
"The George was a much-loved part of our community and the impression
I'm getting from my ward is that we do not need another fast food
takeaway and they would prefer it remained as a pub or something that
the community can use together."
The Ebbsfleet Development Corporation has been contacted for comment.
|
From the
https://www.kentonline.co.uk By Sean Delaney, 7 January 2020.
Motorist arrested after crashing into wall next to George and Dragon pub, London Road, Swanscombe.
A man has been arrested after crashing into the wall of an industrial
estate next to a pub.
The driver was pursued by the police helicopter shortly after 2am before
colliding with the property in London Road, Swanscombe, next to the now
closed George and Dragon.
The vehicle crashed into the wall next to the George and Dragon Pub in
Swanscombe. Photo: Kent Police.
Officers arrested a man in his 20s on suspicion of taking a vehicle
without consent, dangerous driving and failing to stop.
He remains in custody.
|
From the
https://www.kentonline.co.uk By Sean Delaney, 26 June 2022.
Revised plans to transform historic Victorian pub The George and Dragon
in Swanscombe into Domino's Pizza takeaway.
Plans have resurfaced to transform a historic 131-year-old pub into a
pizza takeaway joint – just two years after they were turned down.
The George and Dragon has been sat on the corner of the junction between
London Road and Swanscombe High Street since 1891.
(I've traced it as early as 1843. Paul Skelton.)
As a former Victorian coaching inn the vintage boozer would welcome many
a weary traveller and in more recent times enjoyed success as a local
CAMRA pub of the year.
But despite its reputation it has not welcomed in punters for a light
refreshment since its permanently shut its door in 2019 when the
landlord and landlady announced they were retiring.
An application was later made to the Ebbsfleet Development Corporation (EDC)
to change the use of the premises to a food takeaway business with
franchise chain Domino's Pizza poised to take over.
But the bid was refused in 2020 and an appeal against the decision
refused by the Planning Inspectorate.
Planners said the proposal would result in loss of a "community facility
for non-community purposes" and deemed it an inappropriate location with
insufficient parking.
The George and Dragon Pub in Swanscombe has been on the market for many
years without success.
Concerns were also flagged over the length of marketing exercises to
explore the pub's continued use as a "community-led" facility.
Undettered, pizza bosses have now submitted a fresh application which
again seeks permission for the change of use for the vacant public house
to a hot food takeaway joint.
The proposed takeaway would operate between 10am and midnight daily and
will generate an as yet unspecified number of local jobs.
Plans outline a new layout to provide a customer service area with a
limited amount of seating at the front of the store with the kitchen
area behind.
At the back there will be a cold room, storage area and wash up area as
well as staff facilities. There will be eight car parking spaces to be
access via London Road.
The resubmitted plans come fresh off the back of new updated market
evidence after attempts to find a buyer fell flat.
The pub has been vacant since 2019 and has been on the market since
November 2018.
In its planning application, the applicant states that while some "very
limited interest" has been shown in re-using the site as a pub, no
realistic evidence was provided to demonstrate a purchase would have
been possible.
It says: "Five months have elapsed following the target market campaign
with no further interest in the site.
"In addition to the initial twelve-month marketing period, this is ample
time to establish that there is no potential for the site to be
reoccupied in community use."
As such the franchisee believes that the change of the use of the site
is in line with EDC's development policy.
The statement adds: "The proposed change of use will have significant
economic benefits for the local area, with the buildings re-use
resulting in the creation of a significant number of jobs for local
people, together with other benefits arising from the refurbishment of
the building and improvements to its appearance and streetscene.
"More ideas need to be sought to help the town become a positive place
to live..."
"It is therefore clear that the loss of the public house is justified in
national and local planning policy terms."
But the re-emergence of the Domino's Pizza plans have sparked more than
30 comments on the EDC planning portal, with most voicing their opinion
against the proposals.
The main reasons cited were traffic congestion, poor access and parking
provision and the loss of a community facility.
One commented: "This should not be allowed. The town leads more local
amenities, not pizza restaurants of which there are multiple within a
few miles.
Another added: "We have far too many low rate food places - why on
earth would we want to turn this lovely building into another one?
"This will cause traffic issues at this junction and put more delivery
scooters on the roads."
Kent historian Christoph Bull said: "I want the building to be used for
something but I don't want it to be destroyed or developed into a
takeaway.
"Swanscombe does not need more saturated fat in its blood stream than it
already has."
He added his preference would be for it to be converted into a German
restaurant but said whatever it's use it would face issues over parking
and access.
Swanscombe and Greenhithe Town Council has also voiced its opposition to
the plans.
A statement read: "Members of the Town Council, as local people, know
that the proposal would bring more traffic flow to the immediate
vicinity which already suffers from heavy use and cannot absorb this.
"The town council do not feel that this application does enough to
mitigate the reasons the previous application was refused with the
refusal being upheld on appeal by The Planning Inspectorate.
Its not the first historic building in the area to be subject to
redevelopments plans, with the All Saints Church opposite having been
converted into flats in recent years.
The "Alma" Public House in Swanscombe High Street was demolished recently
to make way for homes and the "Wheatsheaf" pub, also in the High Street
has been tipped to become flats too.
The previous landlord and landlady purchased the "George and Dragon" back
in 2011 and oversaw an upturn in fortunes.
Only eight years ago it was named among the 150 best local real ale pubs
in the country, winning the title of Gravesend and Darent Valley CAMRA
pub of the year two years in a row.
Its success coincided with the opening there of the Caveman Brewery in
2013 by Nick Byram and James Hayward, who went on to set up The Iron
Pier Brewery in Northfleet.
Domino’s Pizza Group's spokesman Will Hill said: "We’re really excited
about the possibility of opening a new store for the pizza lovers of
Swanscombe.
"A new planning application has been submitted by the owner of the
property we and are hopeful of a positive outcome.”
|
From the
https://www.kentonline.co.uk By Sean Delaney, 11 October 2022.
Domino's withdraw plans to convert Swanscombe pub The George and Dragon,.
A second bid to transform a historic 131-year-old pub into a Domino's
pizza takeaway has been withdrawn.
The George and Dragon has been sat on the corner of the junction between
London Road and Swanscombe High Street since 1891.
The former Victorian coaching inn has a long and decorated history which
in recent times had seen it named a local CAMRA pub of the year and even
kickstart a successful local brewery.
But despite its illustrious reputation it has not welcomed in punters
for a tidy ale since permanently shutting its doors in 2019 following
the retirement of the then landlord and landlady.
An application was later made to the Ebbsfleet Development Corporation (EDC)
to change its use to a food takeaway business with franchise chain
Domino's Pizza poised to take over.
But the bid was refused in 2020 and an appeal against the decision
refused by the Planning Inspectorate and the latest plans have been
scrapped.
No reasons have been given for the decision and when asked by KentOnline,
the company declined to comment.
Planners said the proposal would result in loss of a "community facility
for non-community purposes" and deemed it an inappropriate location with
insufficient parking.
Concerns were also flagged over the length of marketing exercises to
explore the pub's continued use as a "community-led" facility.
However, Domino's bosses submitted a fresh application in June which
again sought permission for the change of use.
It came fresh off the back of new updated market evidence after attempts
to find a buyer for the property – valued at £550,000 – were said to
have fallen flat.
The pub has been vacant since 2019 and has been on the market since
November 2018.
In its revised planning application, the applicant said there was only
"very limited interest" in re-using the site as a pub, and no realistic
evidence for the site to be "reoccupied in community use".
It added the change to a pizza takeway would bring "significant economic
benefits" for the local area, with the plans for the building resulting
in the creation of a significant number of jobs for local people and
improvements to the street scene.
However, in a response to the application, planners at Dartford council
said that based on the lack of available evidence and local pubs it was
not possible to conclude there is clear evidence the facility is not
needed by the local community.
It also questioned whether the current market valuation of £550,000
remained valid given the current economic circumstances.
The re-emergence of the Domino's Pizza plans also sparked more than 30
comments on the EDC planning portal, with most voicing their opinion
against the proposals.
The main reasons cited were traffic congestion, poor access and parking
provision and the loss of a community facility.
Speaking in July, Kent historian Christoph Bull said: "I want the
building to be used for something but I don't want it to be destroyed or
developed into a takeaway.
"Swanscombe does not need more saturated fat in its blood stream than it
already has."
Swanscombe Cllr Emma Ben Moussa (Lab) also submitted her views to
planners, raising concerns over littering.
She added her preference would be for something that benefits the
community, such as affordable housing, as opposed to "more unhealthy
takeaways".
Domino's Pizza declined to comment on the withdrawal of the plans. |
LICENSEE LIST
BLACKMAN William 1847-53+ (also Horse and Fly Proprietor)
CLINCH William 1858+
CARLEY Thomas 1861+ (age 53 in 1861)
COTTLE John 1881+ (age 57 in 1881)
HERBERT Mr to Jan/1891
HACKMAN Henry Jan/1891-July/94 dec'd (age 45 in 1891)
HACKMAN Mrs (widow) July/1894+
HUDSON Thomas 1897-14 (age 47 in 1901)
SPARKES George H 1938+
COOPER C Mr late 1950s-early 60s
VEAL Bob & Veal 2011-Aug/19
https://pubwiki.co.uk/GeorgeDragon.shtml
From the Kelly's Directory 1903
Census
Maidstone
and Kentish Journal
Bromley and District Times
|