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Sort file:- Bromley, September, 2024.

Page Updated:- Saturday, 28 September, 2024.

PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1761

Prince Frederick

Open 2024+

31 (23Kelly's 1903) Nichol Lane

Plaistow

Bromley

020 8466 6741

https://www.greeneking-pubs.co.uk/prince-frederick

https://whatpub.com/prince-frederick

Prince Frederick 1982

Above photo 1982.

Prince Frederick 2008

Above photo December 2008, by Kake  Creative Commons Licence.

Prince Frederick 2015

Above photo 2015. By Christopher Hilton.

Prince Frederick bar 2023

Above photo 2023.

Prince Frederick inside 2023

Above photo, 2023.

Prince Frederick sign 1990Prince Frederick sign 2009

Above sign left, 1990, sign right, April 2009.

With thanks from Brian Curtis www.innsignsociety.com.

 

The first recorded owner of the pub and tithed cottage, next door, was Thomas Symons in 1761 and bricks on the cottage show a date of 1739. There is a picture in the pub which shows the fire certificate which covered the pub and cottage (The cottage is inhabited by a relative of one of the original landlords who edited a book called "Not a Mile from Milk Street" giving the history of St Andrews Parish) Henry Burbridge was the first landlord when it was known as Prince Frederick's Head. The pub was named after Prince Frederick, Prince of Wales and father of George III. He was known by his nickname of "Prinny." The old inn sign was lost and a new one made, unfortunately this showed Frederick the Great of Russia.

The latest inn-sign is a replica of the portrait of the Prince of Wales that hangs in the National Gallery. The area was known solely as Hollow Bottom in 1832-44 when Richard Addis was landlord. John Wallis (1862-1870). Henry Wittington (or Whiteington) (1874) when the address was given as 22/23 Hollow Bottom. John Fullex (1876). W Frisby (1878). R Knight (1880). In 1890 the Executors of Mr. Knight endeavoured to get a Mrs. Snelgrove's name included on the list of Licensees but the Bench did not agree this (Bromley Record 1890). William Jayes (1900). J B Botterill (1905). W Harcourt (1914) and A H Button (1922)

Apparently there is a ghost in the cellar which scares the staff (one even jumped out of the window!), for they often find the pump on the Abbots ale down with an empty glass by the side of it.

 

From the https://www.newsshopper.co.uk 27th September 2024, By Emma Fradgley.

Prince Frederick Pub Sundridge: Community fights 'closure'

Residents of a Bromley neighbourhood have come together to fight for the future of a “pillar of the community” pub.

A petition to “take collective action” over concerns that Greene King may sell the Prince Frederick Public House in Sundridge Park has gained over 300 signatures.

The petition was started by a self-proclaimed neighbour of the pub, who described it as “a building of deep historical interest and community importance”.

This spot dates back as far as 1761, serving beer to generations of Bromley residents.

They said: “The Prince Frederick Public House has been a pillar of our community, providing a warm, inviting setting for us to gather, interact, and strengthen the bonds of our community.”

The petition goes onto claim that Greene King is selling the pub, which they said is “threatening the future of this incredible, local resource”.

Despite these claims, Greene King has told the News Shopper that no decisions regarding the Prince Frederick Public House’s future have been made yet.

They added that discussions are ongoing and Greene King is currently reviewing options for the Prince Frederick while keeping in mind the "best interests of the community".

The neighbour who started the petition is calling for people to “come together as a community and protect this valued gathering place that speaks so much of our shared history and culture” and to “resist any sale that might result in a changed use of the premises”.

 

LICENSEE LIST

ADDIS Richard 1832-44+

WALLIS John 1862-70

WHITTINGTON/WHITEINGTON Henry 1874+

FULLEX John 1876+

FRISBY R 1878+

KNIGHT Richard 1880-82+

JAYES William 1900+

DAWSON C 1903+ Kelly's 1903

BOTTERILL John Benjamin 1905-13+ (age 46 in 1911Census)

HADDEN William J 1918+

HARCOURT W 1914+

BUTTON A H 1922-30+

HAWES Henry Charles 1938+

https://pubwiki.co.uk/PrinceFrederick.shtml

 

Kelly's 1903From the Kelly's Directory 1903

CensusCensus

 

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