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128 (18) High Street
Woolwich
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Above photo, kindly sent by Chris Mansfield, date circa 1930s. |
Above photo, kindly sent by Chris Mansfield, date circa 1930s. |
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The original pub dates from the early 1800s, but was rebuilt in 1925.
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West Kent Guardian Saturday 25 Apr 1840.
SHOCKING CHARGE MURDER AGAINST FATHER AND THREE SONS.
The town Woolwich has been again thrown into a state of alarm and
excitement the report that Timothy Sullivan, an Irishman, residing
in Mortgramont-square, Woolwich, and three of his sons, named James
Sullivan a boy only twelve years of age, Cornelius Sullivan, and
Daniel Sullivan, had been apprehended on a charge of being concerned
in the death of Mary Sullivan, the mother of the latter and wife the
first named prisoner.
The deceased disappeared about six months
ago in a mysterious manner. Strict inquiries were made upon the
subject, but no clue was obtained us to her fate until Tuesday, when
her body was found, in a state of decomposition, in what is termed
“a bog’’ (which is the marshy margin of the river), near Blackwall,
and from some circumstances that had come light, Butterfield, an
officer of Woolwich, forthwith took the elder prisoner into custody,
and the other prisoners were subsequently apprehended on the same
charge. The four accused persons above-named were examined before the
magistrates on Wednesday, and the following evidence was gone into.
Butterfield, the officer, was first sworn, and deposed that on
Tuesday, the 21st of this month, he received information that the
body of a female had been found in a bog at Blackwall, and suspecting
that it was the body of the deceased, wife of the elder prisoner,
who had been missing for about six months, made minute inquiries,
and being satisfied as to the correctness of his suspicions, went to
the prisoner’s house at 9 o’clock the previous evening and took him
into custody. On saying to him, “Sullivan, you must come with me,”
the prisoner said, “I have only just come home, but I will
go with you.” He also remarked, “I have been in London to see the
body of wife.” The prisoner, who was in bed, then dressed himself,
and witness took him into the station-house. The younger prisoners
were afterwards taken into custody.
Juliana Lascelles, the wife of a
labouring man, who resides within a few doors of the prisoners,
identified a piece of the gown found upon the body of the deceased
as of the same pattern as that usually worn by the wife of the
prisoner. She was intimately acquainted with the prisoner’s wife,
and saw her between three and four, or between two and three o’clock
on the morning of the day on which she was missed.
Mr. William
Curran, who stated that he assisted his mother, who is the landlady
of the "Carpenters’ Arms" public-house, Woolwich, deposed that he
remembered the prisoner and his wife, and the boy James Sullivan,
being at his mother’s house about six months ago, and on the evening
previously to her being missed. They entered the house about eight
o’clock. The woman appeared rather tipsy, and laid her head upon the
table, and slept for an hour and half or two hours. When she roused
herself, the elder prisoner went over to her, but nothing particular
occurred. About twenty minutes past eleven o’clock witness told the
prisoner, Timothy Sullivan, to leave his house, as he (witness)
wanted to go bed, upon which Sullivan left, with his son James. The
deceased had gone to sleep again, and after her husband had left the
servant awoke her, and she left the house a few minutes afterwards.
He did not observe which way she went, but shut the door after her,
and never saw her alive again.
The Magistrates having cautioned
the prisoners not to make any statement whatever that might
criminate themselves, the elder prisoner gave a similar statement to
that made by W. Curran. adding that when he and his son James got
home they went to bed. In the morning he found that his wife had not
been home; but he did not go in search of her, as she frequently
stayed out all night.
In answer to questions from the magistrates
he said that he did not try to get her home from the public-house as
she was given to repeated acts of intemperance. He denied having had
any quarrel with his wife. James Sullivan corroborated his father’s
defence.
Daniel Sullivan said that he saw his mother at the
"Carpenters’ Arms" on the evening in question, but left at nine
o’clock, and was in bed when his father came home.
There was light
in the room at six o’clock the next morning when he awoke. When his
father had been drinking he slept very sound, and he did not get
up until eleven o’clock the next morning. As there was evidence against
Cornelius Sullivan he was discharged, without being called upon to give
any explanation.
The Magistrates, after having made some remarks
upon the apparent want of regard and care the deceased by the elder
prisoner, remanded him that more strict investigation might made
into the matter, and discharged the other prisoners.
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Kentish Independent - Saturday 20 May 1843.
Peter Beten, landlord of the "Carpenter’s Arms," High Street,
Woolwich, was summoned for permitting disorderly conduct and
drunkenness in his house. By the evidence, it appeared there had
been a furious fight in the house on Monday week; on the arrival of
the police, all was in uproar, and they found drunken men and women
in two different rooms. The defendant Argued the parties had got
drunk previous to their coming to his house; he had served them with
nothing to drink, but found it impossible to get them out of the
house; he then called a witness, who swore it was in consequence of
the defendant refusing to serve the parties with beer that caused
the fight. The witness then went on to prove rather too much. Mr.
Jeremy, in addressing the defendant said, from the shewing of his
own witness, it was evident the house was very badly conducted;
however he Mr. Jeremy, should only make him pay 5s, being the amount
of the two summonses but warned him not to have a repetition of the
complaint, or he should be obliged to increase the fine, and no
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Kentish Independent - Saturday 26 August 1843.
LICENSED VICTUALLERS AND THE POLICE.
The following case excited the greatest interest among the Licensed
Victuallers, both from the extraordinary and novel charge brought
against Mr. Peter Beten, landlord of the "Carpenters’ Arms"
public-house, High-street, Woolwich, who appeared to answer a
summons obtained against him by the police authorities, for refusing
aid and assist police constable Twyman 124 R, when called upon in
the name of the Queen to do so, by which he was liable to a penalty of
£5, or to be indicted for the offence at the quarter sessions.
Police Constable Twyman being sworn, deposed that he was on duty in
private clothes last Friday night, about half-past nine, in High
Street, Woolwich, when he met a man dressed like a sailor, who looked
very bulky, and from his suspicious appearance he watched him, and
saw him talking to a prostitute, whom he left saying “You stick like
a leech to me, because you know I have got a gold watch;" she went
away, and he (witness) then asked him what he had got in his pocket?
he said that was no business of his—he told him he was police
constable, when ran into the defendant's house and called for
half-a-pint of beer, and said he (meaning the witness) will pay for
it; he again requested to know what he had got when the man threw
something into his face, and he then called upon the defendant and
others in the queen's name to aid and assist, the same time pulling
out his staff; the defendant said "I know the man, he is a dealer
in silks, and has lodged here" - immediately he was knocked down and
struck number of times, which the defendant saw, and then refused to
assist, and he was compelled to make his retreat from the house.
Cross examined:- Defendant knows me very well, for only three weeks
ago when dressed in the same manner as he was then, he called him in
and told him of his servant being robbed of a shawl a man who wrote
begging letters for a woman to take about; besides he has dealt with
defendant before he was a licensed victualler, but a green-grocer,
and living opposite the station-house. Defendant knows him well,
both in police and private clothes.
Mr. Beten, however, denied this; he said he was under the doctor’s
hands and very ill now, and had no one to mind the bar, also that it
did not occur in his house, and, therefore, he knew nothing of the
affair. He would, at all times, assist if he knew them - how was he
to know a constable in private clothes? he produced no staff, and
any one might say “I am a police constable,” and though not one, act
in the same authority, he had two witnesses to call in his defence.
The constable, however, said that he did produce his
pocket-staff for anyone to see; he did not particularly show it to
the defendant, who knew it well without, and saw him repeatedly
knocked down without interfering at all.
Mr. Jeremy said was indictable offence at the sessions; but a police
officer should always state what he is, and shew his authority,
especially at night when might not be known. Any individual called
upon is bound to assist in the queen’s name under any circumstance,
murder, felony, or breach of the peace, and refusing to do so can be
punished severely for not doing so, and licensed victualler can have
his licence withheld from him, and other individuals be subjected to
six months imprisonment. The Inspector could indict now if he thinks
proper. Under all the circumstances, should dismiss the case, and
hoped it would not occur again, for police officers must have
protection at all times, and they were amenable for misconduct
afterwards.
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LICENSEE LIST
WORTH James 1823+
CURREN Mary 1832-40+
BETEN Peter 1843+
BETEN Elizabeth 1851-52+ (widow age 49 in 1851 )
TOWERS Joseph 1858+
HUTCHINGS Philip 1862-Jan/63
GUYER John Jan/1863+
HORNSEY Alfred John 1866-67+
GRUBB Charles to Jan/1870
BARNETT Frederick Jan/1870-Jan/72
GREEN Henry Jan/1872-74+
FROUD Philip 1882+
PLUME George 1891-1905+ (age 53 in 1891
WEST William 1891+ (manager age 26 in 1891)
PLUME Margaret Mrs 1908+
PLUME George Alfred 1911+ (age 52 in 1911)
PLUME Matilda 1919-21+ (63 in 1921)
COPE Alfred John Cope & Hill Frederick 1934+
COOKE Lillian Matilda Mrs 1934-44+
HALLAM & Co Ltd 1945+
BOOTH Robert 1948+
CLEGG S W 1952+
HORNSEY Alfred John ????
https://pubwiki.co.uk/CarpentersArms.shtml
From the Pigot's Directory 1823
From
the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34
Census
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