110-112 London Road
Southborough
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Maidstone Journal and Kentish Advertiser, Saturday 19 October 1867.
The Flying Dutchman. Southborough Tunbridge Wells.
To Brewers, Publicans, Butchers, Shopkeepers and others.
Mr. Chantler has received instructions from the proprietor, Mr. Thomas
Street, to sell by public auction, at the "Hand and Sceptre Inn,"
Southborough, on Monday, 28th of October, 1867, at 3 for 4 o'clock
precisely, (unless an acceptable offer be previously made,) in 6 lots,
all that newly erected substantially built, and commodious freehold
house, known as the "Flying Dutchman," with the stabling, coach house,
and building land at the rear thereof, situate in the rapidly increasing
part of Southborough, known as the Brightridge.
The respective Lots will be more fully described in Particulars, which
with the Conditions of Sale, may be had of Messr's Gorham and Warner,
Solicitors, Tonbridge; Mr. Thomas Street, on the premises; at the place
of sale, and of the Auctioneers, Southborough, Tunbridge Wells.
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From the Maidstone Telegraph, Rochester and Chatham Gazette, 21 September 1861.
Petty Sessions, Wednesday.
(Before T. F. Bailey, Esq., Major Scoones, H. T. Moore, and A. Potts,
Esqs.)
The licences to the public houses in the division were renewed with the
exception of the "Flying Dutchman," Tunbridge, which was suspended for a
fortnight, on the complaint of Superintendent Dance, and that of the "Oxenhoath
Yeoman," Dunks Green, suspended for further inquiries, in consequence of
reports that on Sunday, August 18th, 15 persons were found in the house
smoking and drinking at a quarter before 12 in the morning.
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From the Kent and Sussex Courier. 29 August 1873. Price 1d.
THE 'FLYING DUTCHMAN,' SOUTHBORO'.
Mr. Cripps applied on behalf of Mr.
Charles Woodman for a license to sell spirits by retail on the premises,
at the "Flying Dutchman. " Southborough. Mr. Gorham opposed the
application. Mr. Cripps asked by whom Mr. Gorham was instructed? Mr. Gorham replied by Mr. Garling and a number of residents, including
five clergymen. Mr. Cripps maintained that Mr. Gorham could only speak
for those by whom he was actually instructed, and that a memorial
produced could not be put in unless the signatory were present to give
evidence upon it. It had been so ruled by the Court of Sessions. The
service and advertising of the notices was then proved. Mr. Cripps then
stated the circumstances under which the application was made, saying
that the house was desirably situated for the purposes of an inn; it
abutted on the side of the highway, was in the midst of a
thickly-populated neighbourhood, and had recently undergone extensive
repairs. Mr. Woodman was called, and stated that he drew about 325
barrels of beer a year, and paid £48 rent. He was frequently asked by
his customers for spirits, and he had ample accommodation. Mr. W. H.
Wright, who had been the architect for the improvements, was called, and
stated that his lowest estimate for the work now being carried out would
be £139, but if what was anticipated was completed it would amount to
two or three hundred pounds. The house was very substantially built, and
could not have been completed for less than £800. It was also well
situated, and in his opinion another licensed house was necessary for
the neighbourhood. The "Bell Inn" was situated just across the road. Mr.
Gorham submitted that, so far as regarded spirits, the present
accommodation at Southborough was sufficient to supply every need of the
neighbourhood three times over. At this point another argument ensued as
to whom Mr. Gorham was instructed by. The Bench ruled that the memorial
could not be received as evidence unless the signators were present to
give evidence. Mr. Gorham said independently of the memorial, although
he should not fail to use it if needs be, there was not the slightest
ground for the granting of this license on the score of public
necessity, which must be the first consideration in the case. Then,
again, the nature of the holding in this application was not strictly
legitimate. The application was made on behalf of Mr. Woodman, but in
reality it was on behalf of the brewer, because his tenure could be
terminated by three months' notice, and he had only been in the house a
year and a half. It was, he (Mr. Warner) contended, an application by
Messrs. Kelsey to improve their property. Then, again, as to present
accommodation in Southborough, which he admitted was a rapidly-growing
place, there were, he slid, nine public-houses or beer-shops within a
radius of a mile from the "Flying Dutchman. " There was one place close
to it, merely across the road, and still their worships were asked to
grant a license in this case, simply because some people were obliged to
walk to the opposite side of the road to get spirits at the "Bell." The
tendency of public feeling was strongly against an increase of
public-houses unless it was shown that there was occasion for it, and
with that opinion he entirely concurred. He tendered the memorial, but
the Bench refused to accept it as evidence. Mr. Cripps said as the
memorial had been tendered as evidence by Mr. Gorham, he claimed the
right of reply; but the Bench ruled that as it had not been received as
evidence he had no right to reply. Mr. Cripps then said that as Mr.
Gorham had raised certain points of law, he had a right of reply; but
here again the Bench ruled that he had no right of reply, as Mr. Gorham
had not raised any points of law. Mr. Cripps said it was the custom in
all courts of law, where Jarvis's Act did not apply, for the justices to
hear both sides fully so as to obtain the whole of the facts. The Bench,
however, declined to accord Mr. Cripps an opportunity for reply. The
Chairman announced that, as four of the magistrates were against the
granting of the license, the application was refused. |
From the Kent and Sussex Courier, 31 October, 1873.
ACCIDENT.
On Tuesday evening, a pony and van belonging to Mr Bull, oil and
colorman, of High-street, Tunbridge Wells, was passing through
Southborough, to Mr Cotton’s, with a cargo of oil, candles, and such
like commodities, and when opposite the "Flying Dutchman" they were run
into by a horse and trap belonging to Mr Larking, timber merchant, of
Maidstone. The latter trap was thrown completely over, the coachman, a
man named Coomber, was thrown violently to the ground, and another man
who was in the cart with him was couped up under the trap. He was, we
understand, the landlord of the "Prince of Wales," Maidstone, and was
very seriously injured, especially one foot and leg. He was taken to the
"Flying Dutchman," and attended by Dr. Colebrook, and Coomber received
the attention of Dr. Charlton at the "Hand and Sceptre Hotel," he having
sustained an injury to his hip. They were, we understand, driving over
to Tunbridge Wells to be in readiness to stamp some timber on the Eridge
Estate. The boy who was driving Mr Bull’s trap fortunately escaped, and
so did both the horses, though Mr Larking’s trap was considerably
damaged.
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From the Kent and Sussex Courier, 19 August 1874.
An Extra Hour Allowed.
On the application of Mr. Warner, solicitor, the Bench granted an
extension of 1 hour to Mr. C. Woodman, of the "Flying Dutchman Inn," on
the occasion of the annual dinner of the Foresters' Friendly Society
being held.
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From the Kent and Sussex Courier, 19 August 1874.
Licensing Business.
Mr. Cripps applied on behalf of Mr. Charles Woodman, of the "Flying
Dutchman" beer-house, Southborough, for a licence to sell spirits, and
enlarged upon the superior capacities of the house. Mr. Warner opposed
on behalf of the owner of the "Bell" public house opposite, and the
Bench, before hearing the details of the opposition, refused the
application, at the same time stated they had no doubt that the
applicant bore a good character.
Mr. Cripps applied on behalf of Mr. B. C. Holland, out-door beer
retailer, of Tonbridge, for an in-door licence, but, after the
intimation the magistrates had expressed in Mr. Mercer's case, he felt
he could not press it, especially if Mr. Monckton, of Hectorage Farm,
appeared in person to oppose it.
The Bench said it was useless to proceed, unless Mr. Cripps had
something special to plead.
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Kent & Sussex Courier, Friday 30 August 1878.
Southborough. Flying Dutchman.
At the Tonbridge Petty sessions, on Tuesday, Sir. D. L. Salomons, the
chairman, said he noticed that there was again and application for full
license to be granted to this house. This application had been made
every year for some time, and the landlord might take it for granted it
would not be granted.
Mr. W. C. Cripps, solicitor, who supported the application, said that
after that information he should withdraw the application, merely
remarking that the new tenant was a man of the highest possible
character.
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Kent & Sussex Courier, Friday 5 December 1879.
Charge of Drunkenness.
At the Tonbridge Petty Sessions, on Tuesday, John Thorpe, carpenter,
pleaded guilty to being drunk at the "Flying Dutchman," Southborough,
and he was fined 5s. and 9s costs, which he paid.
Defendant said he did not get the beer at the "Flying Dutchman," but at
the Wells.
Superintendent Barnes asked whether the Bench would instruct him to
prosecute the landlord for supplying defendant with beer. It was about
11 minutes past closing time, and the landlord was actually supplying
the defendant with beer in a bottle to take home.
The Chairman said they could not prejudge the case, but it was open to
the Superintendent to take proceedings if he thought proper.
Superintendent Barnes said there were several other people in the house
at the time. His orders were to ask the Bench for instructions in such
cases.
The chairman said they could not recommend the Superintendent to take
proceedings, but if he had good grounds to bring a case he had better do
so.
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From the Kent and Sussex Courier, Friday 10 April 1885.
Tonbridge Petty sessions. Licensing.
Mr. Watson, landlord of the "Flying Dutchman," Southborough, applied for
an hour's extension on the occasion of a tradesman's dinner at his
house.
The application was granted.
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Sevenoaks Chronicle and Kentish Advertiser, Friday 3 August 1945.
"Death.
ALLCHIN. Eric Nelson,
Of the "Flying Dutchman," Southborough, passed peacefully
away on Saturday, July 28.
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Kent & Sussex Courier, Friday 28 July 1972.
Performance gift for Chimney Pot Willie.
Fireman gathered over pints of beer at the "Flying Dutchman" Public
House, Southborough, on Tuesday evening of last week for a farewell
party for Mr. William Hodge. Until the end of June Mr. Hodge was sub
officer in charge of Southborough fire station.
After 14 years as a retained fireman - the last two as sub officer - he
has retired because of pressure of work as the mechanic in charge of the
Post Office at Tunbridge Wells.
During the evening his successor Mr. Eric Pedersen presented Mr. Hodge
with an engraved clock on behalf of the men.
Mr. Hodge who lives with his wife Evelyn, and sons Paul, 16, and Ian,
13, at 4 Edward Street, Southborough originally joined the fire service
"for something to do."
"I was nicknamed Chimney Pot Willy by Mr. Stan Webb the sub-officer in
those days because the first series of jobs I went on were chimney
fires," Mr. Hodge remembered.
Born in Southborough and educated at St. Peter's School on the common,
Mr. Hodge served his apprenticeship as a mechanic with a garage then
after a brief spell in the Prison Service he joined the Post Office
where he has worked for 20 years.
Although his time with the Fire Service has many spoilt dinners - when
alarms went up as he was sitting down to meals. Mr. Hodge admitted a
slight nostalgia. "I have enjoyed every minute of it and I'm going to
miss it" he said.
Mr. Bill Hodge (right) was recently retired as sub-officer in charge
of Southborough Fire Station, is presented with a clock by his
successor, Mr. Eric Pedersen, on behalf of his colleagues.
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I believe the pub changed name to "Ryan's Bar"
between 2004 and February 2009, but
later reverted to its original name again and latest information (2017)
tells me that it is again closed for business.
From the
https://www.kentlive.news By Mary Harris, 7 March 2023.
The Flying Dutchman on London Road opposite the former now demolished
Victoria Theatre had pool and crib teams and a separate smaller bar. The
large bar was "drinking only with magazines and local papers available".
There was music every Saturday evening and Jam nights on Thursdays. It
then became Irish pub "Ryan's Bar" between 2004 and February 2009, but
later reverted to its original name. It is now closed as a pub.
The Courier stated in April, 2009. "Customers used to flock to Ryan's to
watch live football matches on big screens, but the landlord was forced
to stop broadcasting satellite television after subscription prices
rocketed."
Five months later we reported: "The new owners, Malcolm and Tracy
Stanway, are promising a £90,000 revamp will transform the London Road
bar back to its former glory as a traditional English pub – and restore
its former name, The Flying Dutchman in the process." |
LICENSEE LIST
WOODMAN C 1828+
STREATER Thomas to Mar/1861
CRISPE Henry Mar/1861+
STREET Thomas to Oct/1867
DUNK Walter 1871-May/72
(age 47 in 1871)
WOODMAN Charles May/1872-74+
WATSON Benjamin 1881-85+ (age 68 in 1881)
BETTS William 1891+ (manager aged 42 in 1891)
EADE Fred 1901-11+ (age 49 in 1901)
ALLCHIN Ernest 1927
ALLCHIN Eric Nelson to 28/July/1945 dec'd
BEST George & Kath 1976+
SMITH Michael & NICHOLSON Margaret 1986-2008
STANWAY Malcolm & Tracey Aug/2009+
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