Seasalter Road / Redhill Road
Graveney
01795 538143
https://www.pubingraveney.co.uk/
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Above photo, 1905, kindly sent by Colin. |
Above photo 1905 by local photographer, Herbert Crosoer who hand
coloured for glass lantern shows, kindly supplied by
John Robertson. |
Above postcard, date unknown, kindly sent by Colin. |
Above photo circa 1925, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe. |
Above photo 2010 by Chris Whippet
Creative Commons Licence. |
Above photo, 2010. |
Above photo 2013. |
Above photo 2021, taken and sent by Chris Richford. |
Above photo 2021, taken and sent by Chris Richford. |
Above photo 2021, taken and sent by Chris Richford. |
Above sign left 1987, sign right sent by Colin. |
I believe this was originally called the "Three
Horse Shoes". And reference to that name was found in 1865 from
one of the local directories. However, other references before that
date and up to 1858 have only called it the "Horse Shoes" without a number
attached, so it's not known exactly when the horse gained that extra shoe.
At one time a George Beer & Rigden pub, that merged with Fremlins after
the 1922 brewery merger their livery was updated.
The pub closed in May 2014 and after a year boarded up it reopened again
as the "Freewheel."
From the Kentish Gazette, 24 October 1843.
DEATH.
Oct. 1, at the house of her son-in-law, (Mr. R. Gibbs, landlord of the
"Horse Shoes Inn," Graveney.) Mrs. Sarah Homewood, widow of Mr. John
Homewood, of Westwell, aged 91.
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Kentish Gazette, Tuesday 18 February 1851.
James Thomas, James Clarke, and George Weston were charged with a
burglary at Graveney, on the 2nd February.
Robert Gibbs:- I keep the "Horseshoe" at Graveney; had his house
broken into on the morning of Sunday, 2nd of February; missed a pair of
boots, three candlesticks, 6 spoons, and other property. I did not find
any tracks of the parties who broke into my house, with the exception of
two pair of shoes which they left behind.
Emma Stokes:- I remember the three prisoners being in my home on
Monday, 3rd of February. Clarke and Weston came there on the Thursday
previous together. Thomas had been lodging there for almost a fortnight
or 3 weeks. Clarke and Thomas went away on Saturday morning. Weston
stayed all that day. The other two came back about 12 on Sunday morning.
They joined Weston, they asked for a dish to put some broken victuals
in, also for some boiling water. The prisoners lodged together that
night, and were there all day on Monday. In the evening Thomas brought a
coat, two pairs of boots-shoes, a flag basket with some things in it,
which I heard rattle, which he asked me to take care of till the
morning. The constable came in about 20 minutes after, and took the
prisoners into custody, when I gave up the various articles to them.
William Eve identified some of the articles as belonging to them.
Committed for trial at the Assizes.
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South Eastern Gazette, Tuesday 18 February 1851.
Burglary at Graveney.
See entire prosecution click
here.
The prisoners were then charged with a burglary at the "Horseshoe"
public house, at
Graveney, on the 2nd instant.
Robert Gibbs, the landlord, stated that on Sunday morning, 2nd of
February, he got up
about a quarter before 6 to call the servant, and then went to bed
again; shortly
afterwards she came up to his bedroom door, and in consequence of what
she told him he
immediately got up and went downstairs. He found two squares of glass
have been taken
out of the washhouse window, and by that means the fastening to the
casement had been
undone and the party entered the house. A pair of boots, value 10s., a
sock-bottle used for
feeding lambs, value 10d., 3 metal candlesticks, valued 1s. 6., six
metal spoons, 2s., a
round frock, and other articles, were stolen. A quantity of eatables,
belonging to two of
his lodges, was also taken away. The parties left to pair of shoes
behind them.
Emma Stokes proved that the three prisoners were in company together at
her house on
Monday, 3rd instant. Thomas came there about a fortnight or three weeks
previous, and
Watson and Clark came in together on the 30th of January. Clark and
Thomas left
together on Saturday morning. Watson remind in doors all that day. About
12 o'clock on
Sunday the other two returned to her house and asked her for a dish to
put some broken
victuals into. Thomas was wearing a pair of boot shoes and a flag
basket, containing
candlesticks, sock-bottle, and other articles.
Everist produce the frock which was worn by the prisoner Thomas at the
time of his
apprehension, and which, with the boots, sock-bottle, and other
articles, found at Mrs.
Stokes's, were identified by the prosecutor at his property.
Hills produced a great coat and a pair of leggings, the former given to
him by Mrs. Stokes,
and the latter found under the counter, this morning. Both the coat and
leggings, he
stated, were quite wet.
William Eaves, a waggoner, residing with the prospector at the time of
the burglary,
identified the coat as his property, and the prisoners were committed
for trial.
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Kentish Gazette, Tuesday 29 June 1858.
Petty sessions. Monday.
Before E. Jarman and W. Rigden, Esq. Robert Cole, Peter Smith, and
George Gravit, three nappies, were brought up for having committed the
following offences at Graveney, on the occasion of the fair.
P.C. Robert Kelway, K.C.C., said:- I was on duty at the fair on
Saturday, when the prisoners began pulling off their clothes to fight,
and on remonstrating with them, the prisoner Cole struck me with a hop
pole. I warded the blow off with my staff, and the force of which it
came with such that the hop pole broke in two. I then took him into
custody. I saw prisoner Gravit strike Jacob Mears.
P.C. Charles Medgley, K.C.C:- I was on duty at Graveney fair. I saw the
three prisoners outside the "Four Horse Shoes" public house creating a
disturbance, and offered to fight everyone they came near, and used very
abusive language to us on my requesting them to go away. They afterwards
went away, but in a few minutes returned again armed with pieces of hop
pole. I saw the prisoner Cole strike at Kelway. The prisoner Smith then
struck at me with his hop pole, but I escaped the blow, and with
assistance secured him. The other prisoner Gravit was also armed were a
hop pole, and said he "should like to give us a good thrashing."
Jacob Mears, of Graveney, labourer:- On Saturday I was placed in my
master's hop garden to watch his hop poles, when the prisoners Cole and
Smith came up the bank and pulled the bines off two of the poles, and
broke the poles in half. I followed them and spoke to the police, when
the prisoners Smith and Gravit struck me. Gravit afterwards offered me
half a sovereign to make the matter up.
Robert Gibbs, of Graveney:- I keep the "Four Horse Shoes" public house.
On the night of Saturday, about 11:30, wanting to clear my house, I
requested the prisoner Cole, who was there with others, to leave, when
he caught hold of my throat and threatened to knock my brains out if I
did not draw him another quart of ale. I then got the assistance of the
police.
The prisoners Smith and Gravit pleaded guilty to striking Mears, and
Cole pleaded guilty to assaulting the police. Smith and Gravit denied
striking the police, but admitted having the hop poles and using
threatening language. Cole denied assaulting Gibbs, saying it was
another man whom he should bring forward.
Mr. J. H. Murton, the owner of the hops which were injured, and whose
poles were stolen, attended to prefer a charge against a prisoner for
that also, but the case was not gone into, as the magistrates considered
they could award sufficient punishment to the prisoners for the assault
on the police, and, therefore, fined them each £10, and in default
committed them to two calendar months' hard labour.
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Kentish Chronicle 27 August 1859.
DEATH. GRAVENEY.
August 16, Mr. Robert Gibbs, of the "Four Horse Shoes Inn,"
aged 63 years.
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Sheerness Guardian 27 August 1859.
DEATH.
At Graveney near Faversham, a few days ago, Mr. R. Gibbs of the
"Four Horse Shoes," aged 64 years.
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Maidstone Journal and Kentish Advertiser 5 September 1864.
WHITSTABLE. NEW LICENCES.
On Saturday, at the St. Augustine's Petty Sessions, the magistrates granted
licenses for the sale of spirits to the following applicants from Whitstable
and Seasalter:-
John Hogbear, for the "Four Horseshoes" beerhouse, Seasalter.
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Canterbury Journal, Kentish Times and Farmers' Gazette 10 August 1895.
A SUNDAY TRIP AT GRAVENEY.
Alfred Brunger and Swinford Miles, labourers were charged with being
quarrelsome and refusing to quit the "Four Horseshoes Inn," Graveney, on
Sunday July 19th. They pleaded not guilty. William Wilkinson, Landlord,
who prosecuted, said that a load of young men came to the house on the
evening of July 19th. They called for a drink, and when inside the house
put themselves in a fighting attitude, and before he could stop them
three of them fell through a window. Brunger said there were about
fifteen children in the van outside, and he took them out some ginger
beer and biscuits. He denied he had anything to do with the disturbance,
and said that it was Miles and his brother, Edward Brunger, who fell
through the window. Miles said that a man named James Butcher (who
was not summoned) struck at him, not Alfred Brunger. Henry Read, James
Long, and Edward Brunger, of Hernhill, who were in the house at the
time, were called for the defence, and the Bench, giving the defendants
the benefit of the doubt, dismissed the case.
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Shields Daily News - Tuesday 04 November 1924.
A motor car in which bandits raided the "Four Horse Shoes" public-house,
Graveney, near Faversham, after attempting to break into a post office,
has been found abandoned at Greenwich. The car is believed to have been
stolen from a garage in the Marylebone district.
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Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald, 29 November 1924.
Lonely East Kent in hold-up.
Motor bandits sent for trial.
Exploits of motoring bandits in Kent and Surrey were on Thursday alleged
to be attributed to four men who had already been charged at Marylebone
with motor thefts. The following were accused at a previous hearing of
stealing three motor cars and with being in possession of housebreaking
implements:-
James Seymour, 23, fruiterer, of Kennington Road; Walter Joslin, 22,
motor driver; Reginald Dickenson, 22, dealer of Beresford Street,
Camberwell; and Robert Bonnie, 22, a musician.
Seven further charges where now preferred, including the theft of a
Hillman car. Total value of the stolen property is over £1,600.
Mrs Emma J Winship, wife of the licensee of the "Four Horseshoes Inn,"
Graveney, between Faversham and Seasalter, describe how two men entered
her bedroom, one of them carrying an instrument, saying: "Money, and be
quick about it. We are out to kill. The man, whom she recognised as
Dickenson, continue to threaten her, said Mrs Winship. She identify
Bonnie the man who stood at the door with the torch. They took her cash
box containing about £35. The telephone wires were cut.
The men were committed for trial, Dickenson pleading not guilty.
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Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald 27 November 1937.
THE WHITSTABLE IMPS.
The soup supper at the Headquarters, Hamilton Road, on Monday last, was
a great success.
On Sunday, a large party of Imps set out on a mystery hike and with the
aid of clues all but two reached the "Four Horse Shoes," Graveney, in
time for a very welcome tea. We learn that the two "lost sheep" ended
their wanderings at the "Dove," Dargate, which is a favourite haunt of
the Imps.
A large contingent from Whitstable attended the Herne Bay Imps' dance at
the "Connaught Hotel" on Wednesday evening.
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Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald, Saturday 11 June 1938.
Theft of a trailer caravan at Graveney.
Chatham man sent to prison.
At the Faversham County Petty sessions on Thursday morning, before Mr.
J. D. Maxted (in the chair,) Mr. J. Burton, and Mrs. Beacon, Charles
Tomlin, 45, New Road, Chatham, was charged on remand with stealing a
two-wheel trailer caravan, value £4 10s., the property of Harry Hall, at
Graveney on February 8th.
Prosecutor, who lives at "Rosebank," Yorkletts, stated that at 12:30
p.m. on February 8th prisoner came into his house and asked if he had a
caravan for sale. He said that Mr. Robinson, late landlord of the "Four
Horseshoes," Graveney, had sent him. Witness agreed to let him have it
for £4 10s. The caravan was at the "Four Horse Shoes." Prisoner paid £1
deposit and witness gave him a receipt for it. Prisoner said he would
pay the remainder at 4 o'clock that day, but witness had not seen him
since. Witness gave Mr. Robinson authority to sell the caravan at a
reasonable price. The caravan outside the court was witnesses property.
William Francis Robinson, licensee of the "Ship Inn," Ospringe, and
previously landlord of the "Four Horse Shoes," Graveney, stated that
prosecutor left him the caravan in his possession and told him that he
was to sell it for him if he had a suitable offer. When he left the
"Four Horse Shoes" the incoming tenant, Mr. Edney, gave him permission
to leave the caravan there. At 11 a.m. on February 8th prisoner came
into the "Ship" at Ospringe and told him he had been informed that he
had a caravan for sale at the "Four Horse Shoes," Graveney, and that he
wanted to buy it. Witness offered him a price but he would not accept it
so he told him he had better see the owner. About 4:30 p.m. the same day
prisoner came to him at the Mill House, Ospringe, and said "Why can't I
have the caravan. I have bought it and paid for it. It is mine." Witness
asked him if he had a full receipt and prisoner said "No. I have only
receipt for the deposit of £1. I purchased the caravan from Mr. Hall for
£4 10s. I had only £1 with me so I went to Canterbury to get the
remainder. As it is getting dark, I am in a hurry to move the trailer
and I did not bother to get the remainder of the receipt." Witness
believe his story was true and gave him a written authorisation to Mr.
Edney to let the caravan be removed.
Edward Adam Edney, licensee of the "Four Horse Shoes," stated that Mr.
Robinson left the trailer in his care and he had no authority to sell it
or let it go. On February 8th prisoner came to claim the caravan and
said he had paid £1 for it. Witness said "I am sorry. You cannot take it
as Mr. Robinson has left it in my charge and until I get his permission
the caravan will have to stay here." Prisoner then left. Witness had a
telephone conversation with Mr. Robinson and as a result he let prisoner
on his return take the caravan.
Detective Cleaver stated that on may 25th he saw prisoner detained at
Chatham and read the warrant to him. He replied "I cannot understand it,
I paid for it." When formally charged at Faversham he said "I didn't
steal it. I bought it."
Prisoner pleaded not guilty and said he paid the balance of £3 10s. to
prosecutor in the kitchen of his house between 12 and 1 o'clock on
February 8th.
In reply to the chairman he said he did not trouble about the receipt as
he had got the caravan. He asked for the receipt for the £1 in order to
clinch the deal.
Sybil Ethel Tomlin, wife of prisoner, said they had £3 at home and she
had a few shilling and they sold some old rags and brass to make up for
the £3 10s. Her husband had the money when he went into Mr. Hall's
house. She saw him take the money out of his pocket as he went down the
drive.
Answering inspector Baker, witness said they got rid of the caravan two
days later because it let the rain in.
Prosecutor re-called, emphatically denied that prisoner had ever paid
him the balance.
Inspector Baker said that prisoner was a native of Canterbury and he
been in the army. During the last few years he had been residing in
Canterbury and was the associate of undesirable characters. For a few
weeks he had conduced a third class restaurant, but it did not prove a
success. In 1931 he was bound over for shop breaking and larceny and
later in the same year he was sentenced for six weeks for being a
suspected person. In 1932 he received 12 months for shop-breaking and
being in the position of house-breaking implement, and on July 20th,
1936, he received one month and two months to run consecutively for
being drunk and disorderly and assaulting the police.
Prisoner pointed out that all these offences were then when he was
single and said that since his married he had been going straight.
Prisoner's wife said he was a rotter until he got married, but since he
had been working with pick and shovel. She thought he ought to be given
a chance.
The bench sentence prisoner to 3 months hard labour.
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From an email received 24 August 2022.
My Great Great Great Grandad, William Wraight. Licensee 1871+
I was told this story by my Grandad Edgar Knowler, his mother was
Williams daughter Emma. He left the pub to live with Emma the
postmistress just up the road and took with him his grandfather clock.
When Edgar's mother died the children took turns in choosing her
items and Grandad being the youngest chose last and had the clock which
I am now the keeper.
The photo I think is William but can't prove it.
Martin Allen.
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From the
https://www.kentonline.co.uk By Secret Drinker, 5 May 2023.
Secret Drinker reviews the Four Horseshoes pub at Graveney, Faversham.
Half storeroom, half crèche with the baby put to sleep on a bench at the
side of the pub. And don’t even get me started on the appallingly loud
foul-mouthed bird in the corner.
But does any of this matter if the locals just muck in at the Four
Horseshoes in Graveney and love the pub just the way it is?
The bloke at the bar was telling anyone who’d listen his other half was
off to see Elvis for her Christmas do. Forget for a moment The King died
in 1977, this was the end of April so who’s planning December 25? He
went on to say there was another funeral he needed to attend and he’d
have to go on his motorbike.
I tried to block out all this madness, the care in the community feel to
the place and its similarity to a caravan park clubhouse to concentrate
on selecting a drink.
I chose to swerve lager or cider and, as there wasn’t any bitter on
draught, it was really a choice between a couple of IPAs, a Hobgoblin or
an Eagle. I opted for the former.
Playing to its strengths – Sunday, featuring a full carvery, must be the
most popular day of the week.
It was served in a wonderfully chunky glass which slotted right into
your hand and, although it proved slightly lively coming out of the tap,
was a very pleasant, darker IPA.
I found a seat just beyond the play shop, but before the table where
Dolly was sleeping soundly under her blanket – fortunately the stage was
unoccupied, the piano lid closed and the jukebox switched off so it was
fairly quiet in the party area. Or it was until the Elvis and low
percentage lager fan at the bar began loudly declaring his undying love
for Fridays.
It was only after several unbridled ‘Thank God it’s Friday’ exclamations
I felt it necessary to point out he’d peaked early as today was
Thursday.
The stage was at the far end of the room, complete with piano and
jukebox, but fortunately it was quiet as Dolly had been put down for a
nap.
There are a number of extra tables in the back room but the area was
curtained off when I was in as it wasn’t required.
The noisy bird in the corner had already told me she’d see me later a
couple of times before, much to the locals’ amusement, she turned the
air blue and advised me to **** off.
To be fair there were signs warning you to steer clear of Ruby and she
certainly made her presence felt when she indulged in a few sessions of
prolonged squawking. As time went on I noticed she became particularly
vocal each time a local left and, more often than not, would then
exclaim ‘what you doing?’.
The sign on top of her cage read: “Please do not put your fingers in my
cage, as I might bite you – thanks Ruby x”.
Fortunately the bird in the corner of the pub was restrained by a series
of bars but it didn’t stop her from making her presence felt.
The stools at the side weren’t unoccupied by drinkers which, given the
clutter, was probably a good job
Talk at the bar shifted to bin day and exactly what could, and couldn’t,
be placed in the recycling bin. Glancing around I reckoned an awful lot
of stuff in here needed to go so thought it best if I didn’t get
involved in the discussion and took a look around instead.
Judging by the posters, the Four Horseshoe’s prides itself on hosting
events – Rayoke’s Karaoke is a regular booking and even the man himself
popped in to grab a bite during my visit.
Mamma Mia, the Abbagirls will be here on June 2, but it’s August 19 you
need to put in your diary, whether that’s to attend Ladies Night or to
avoid it like the plague. For just £20 a ticket drag Comedienne Miss Dot
Com will be marshalling, and I quote, ‘four hunky male strippers’ –
Dolly might not get much sleep that night.
Surely it’s too early to sign up for a New Year’s Eve event, even if it
does feature Rayoke. Braver souls than me will be splashing out on £20
tickets for the drag comedienne and four hunky male strippers.
I had to pop to the gents and although it was clean and fresh there were
a few disappointments – first, the hot tap didn’t work, and second, the
cold tap only dribbled. There was also a notice about not flushing wet
wipes but none were provided, so unless people are bringing their own
I’m not sure why the warning is needed.
Chat around the bar was now about the view from the back of the pub
where the landlady reckoned all she’d been able to see for weeks was a
caravan and a digger.
I’m not sure what construction work has been taking place but the fact
she can see a caravan is hardly surprising as the pub is surrounded by a
‘retirement community’ of mobile homes, so much so it almost feels to
have been engulfed by the Four Horseshoes Park.
I’m assuming the fence at the back of the pub has been repaired recently
as the landlady reckons she’s had a view of a caravan and a digger for
far too long.
However, when I looked out the back the digger was almost hidden so I
presume some recent fencing work has taken place, maybe to coincide with
all the car park work going on at the left hand side of the pub.
Just before I departed, regulars, builder Frank and his better half
popped in for a drink and a lengthy debate began about Frank’s inability
to hang a set of Jan’s curtains.
Viewed in slightly rose-tinted glasses you’d say the locals are salt of
the earth folk who are perfectly happy in a clubroom-like pub surrounded
by a mobile home site for people of more mature years.
On the other hand, a more eagle-eyed visitor could view a motley
collection of regulars with low expectations who are prepared to sit
among the detritus and battle their wits with a feathered friend called
Ruby.
Very neat and tidy, the gents were clean and fresh smelling.
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LICENSEE LIST
GIBBS Robert 1841-Aug/59 dec'd (also carpenter age 53 in 1851)
SETTATREE Jacob 1861 (also master carpenter age 31 in 1861)
HOGBEAR John 1861-64+ (age 63 in 1861)
WRAIGHT William & Harriett 1871-91+ (also farmer age 69 in 1881)
WILKINSON William & Thamasine 1895-1911+ (age 64 in 1911)
WINSHIP Mr 1924+
SHELDON Thomas 1934+
ROBINSON William Francis to June/1938
EDNEY Edward A & Grace 1938-39+
SMITH Geoff 1957+
JENNINGS Alec & Roz 1988+
SMYTH Duncan 2002+ (and closed for short time)
JULL Geraldine 2003+
Closed 2007
Changed name to "Freewheel".
???? Steve & Kim May/2018+
https://pubwiki.co.uk/KentPubs/Graveney/FourHorseShoes.shtml
http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/graveney_fourhorseshoes.html
Census
Whitstable Times
and Herne Bay Herald
From the Kelly's Directory 1903
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