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PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1841-

(Name from)

Four Horseshoes

(Name to) May 2014

Open 2021+

Seasalter Road / Redhill Road

Graveney

01795 538143

https://www.pubingraveney.co.uk/

https://whatpub.com/four-horseshoes

Four Horseshoes 1905

Above photo, 1905, kindly sent by Colin.

Four Horse Shoes 1905

Above photo 1905 by local photographer, Herbert Crosoer who hand coloured for glass lantern shows, kindly supplied by John Robertson.

Four Horseshoes

Above postcard, date unknown, kindly sent by Colin.

Four Horseshoes 2010

Above photo 2010 by Chris Whippet Creative Commons Licence.

Four Horse Shoes

Above photo 2013.

Four Horseshoes 2021

Above photo 2021, taken and sent by Chris Richford.

Four Horseshoes 2021

Above photo 2021, taken and sent by Chris Richford.

Four Horseshoes 2021

Above photo 2021, taken and sent by Chris Richford.

Four Horseshoes sign 1987Four Horseshoes sign

Above sign left 1987, sign right sent by Colin.

 

I believe this was originally called the "Three Horse Shoes". And reference to that name was found in 1865 from one of the local directories. However,  other references before that date and up to 1858 have only called it the "Horse Shoes" without a number attached, so it's not known exactly when the horse gained that extra shoe.

The pub closed in May 2014 and after a year boarded up it reopened again as the "Freewheel."

 

From the Kentish Gazette, 24 October 1843.

DEATH.

Oct. 1, at the house of her son-in-law, (Mr. R. Gibbs, landlord of the "Horse Shoes Inn," Graveney.) Mrs. Sarah Homewood, widow of Mr. John Homewood, of Westwell, aged 91.

 

Kentish Gazette, Tuesday 18 February 1851.

James Thomas, James Clarke, and George Weston were charged with a burglary at Graveney, on the 2nd February.

Robert Gibbs:- I keep the "Horseshoe" at Graveney; had his house broken into on the morning of Sunday, 2nd of February; missed a pair of boots, three candlesticks, 6 spoons, and other property. I did not find any tracks of the parties who broke into my house, with the exception of two pair of shoes which they left behind.

Emma Stokes:- I remember the three prisoners being in my home on Monday, 3rd of February. Clarke and Weston came there on the Thursday previous together. Thomas had been lodging there for almost a fortnight or 3 weeks. Clarke and Thomas went away on Saturday morning. Weston stayed all that day. The other two came back about 12 on Sunday morning. They joined Weston, they asked for a dish to put some broken victuals in, also for some boiling water. The prisoners lodged together that night, and were there all day on Monday. In the evening Thomas brought a coat, two pairs of boots-shoes, a flag basket with some things in it, which I heard rattle, which he asked me to take care of till the morning. The constable came in about 20 minutes after, and took the prisoners into custody, when I gave up the various articles to them.

William Eve identified some of the articles as belonging to them.

Committed for trial at the Assizes.

 

South Eastern Gazette, Tuesday 18 February 1851.

Burglary at Graveney.

See entire prosecution click here.

The prisoners were then charged with a burglary at the "Horseshoe" public house, at Graveney, on the 2nd instant.

Robert Gibbs, the landlord, stated that on Sunday morning, 2nd of February, he got up about a quarter before 6 to call the servant, and then went to bed again; shortly afterwards she came up to his bedroom door, and in consequence of what she told him he immediately got up and went downstairs. He found two squares of glass have been taken out of the washhouse window, and by that means the fastening to the casement had been undone and the party entered the house. A pair of boots, value 10s., a sock-bottle used for feeding lambs, value 10d., 3 metal candlesticks, valued 1s. 6., six metal spoons, 2s., a round frock, and other articles, were stolen. A quantity of eatables, belonging to two of his lodges, was also taken away. The parties left to pair of shoes behind them.

Emma Stokes proved that the three prisoners were in company together at her house on Monday, 3rd instant. Thomas came there about a fortnight or three weeks previous, and Watson and Clark came in together on the 30th of January. Clark and Thomas left together on Saturday morning. Watson remind in doors all that day. About 12 o'clock on Sunday the other two returned to her house and asked her for a dish to put some broken victuals into. Thomas was wearing a pair of boot shoes and a flag basket, containing candlesticks, sock-bottle, and other articles.

Everist produce the frock which was worn by the prisoner Thomas at the time of his apprehension, and which, with the boots, sock-bottle, and other articles, found at Mrs. Stokes's, were identified by the prosecutor at his property.

Hills produced a great coat and a pair of leggings, the former given to him by Mrs. Stokes, and the latter found under the counter, this morning. Both the coat and leggings, he stated, were quite wet.

William Eaves, a waggoner, residing with the prospector at the time of the burglary, identified the coat as his property, and the prisoners were committed for trial.

 

Kentish Gazette, Tuesday 29 June 1858.

Petty sessions. Monday.

Before E. Jarman and W. Rigden, Esq. Robert Cole, Peter Smith, and George Gravit, three nappies, were brought up for having committed the following offences at Graveney, on the occasion of the fair.

P.C. Robert Kelway, K.C.C., said:- I was on duty at the fair on Saturday, when the prisoners began pulling off their clothes to fight, and on remonstrating with them, the prisoner Cole struck me with a hop pole. I warded the blow off with my staff, and the force of which it came with such that the hop pole broke in two. I then took him into custody. I saw prisoner Gravit strike Jacob Mears.

P.C. Charles Medgley, K.C.C:- I was on duty at Graveney fair. I saw the three prisoners outside the "Four Horse Shoes" public house creating a disturbance, and offered to fight everyone they came near, and used very abusive language to us on my requesting them to go away. They afterwards went away, but in a few minutes returned again armed with pieces of hop pole. I saw the prisoner Cole strike at Kelway. The prisoner Smith then struck at me with his hop pole, but I escaped the blow, and with assistance secured him. The other prisoner Gravit was also armed were a hop pole, and said he "should like to give us a good thrashing."

Jacob Mears, of Graveney, labourer:- On Saturday I was placed in my master's hop garden to watch his hop poles, when the prisoners Cole and Smith came up the bank and pulled the bines off two of the poles, and broke the poles in half. I followed them and spoke to the police, when the prisoners Smith and Gravit struck me. Gravit afterwards offered me half a sovereign to make the matter up.

Robert Gibbs, of Graveney:- I keep the "Four Horse Shoes" public house. On the night of Saturday, about 11:30, wanting to clear my house, I requested the prisoner Cole, who was there with others, to leave, when he caught hold of my throat and threatened to knock my brains out if I did not draw him another quart of ale. I then got the assistance of the police.

The prisoners Smith and Gravit pleaded guilty to striking Mears, and Cole pleaded guilty to assaulting the police. Smith and Gravit denied striking the police, but admitted having the hop poles and using threatening language. Cole denied assaulting Gibbs, saying it was another man whom he should bring forward.

Mr. J. H. Murton, the owner of the hops which were injured, and whose poles were stolen, attended to prefer a charge against a prisoner for that also, but the case was not gone into, as the magistrates considered they could award sufficient punishment to the prisoners for the assault on the police, and, therefore, fined them each 10, and in default committed them to two calendar months' hard labour.

 

Kentish Chronicle 27 August 1859.

DEATH. GRAVENEY.

August 16, Mr. Robert Gibbs, of the "Four Horse Shoes Inn," aged 63 years.

 

Maidstone Journal and Kentish Advertiser 5 September 1864.

WHITSTABLE. NEW LICENCES.

On Saturday, at the St. Augustine's Petty Sessions, the magistrates granted licenses for the sale of spirits to the following applicants from Whitstable and Seasalter:-

John Hogbear, for the "Four Horseshoes" beerhouse, Seasalter.

 

Canterbury Journal, Kentish Times and Farmers' Gazette 10 August 1895.

A SUNDAY TRIP AT GRAVENEY.

Alfred Brunger and Swinford Miles, labourers were charged with being quarrelsome and refusing to quit the "Four Horseshoes Inn," Graveney, on Sunday July 19th. They pleaded not guilty. William Wilkinson, Landlord, who prosecuted, said that a load of young men came to the house on the evening of July 19th. They called for a drink, and when inside the house put themselves in a fighting attitude, and before he could stop them three of them fell through a window. Brunger said there were about fifteen children in the van outside, and he took them out some ginger beer and biscuits. He denied he had anything to do with the disturbance, and said that it was Miles and his brother, Edward Brunger, who fell through the window. Miles said that a man named James Butcher (who was not summoned) struck at him, not Alfred Brunger. Henry Read, James Long, and Edward Brunger, of Hernhill, who were in the house at the time, were called for the defence, and the Bench, giving the defendants the benefit of the doubt, dismissed the case.

 

Shields Daily News - Tuesday 04 November 1924.

A motor car in which bandits raided the "Four Horse Shoes" public-house, Graveney, near Faversham, after attempting to break into a post office, has been found abandoned at Greenwich. The car is believed to have been stolen from a garage in the Marylebone district.

 

Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald, 29 November 1924.

Lonely East Kent in hold-up.

Motor bandits sent for trial.

Exploits of motoring bandits in Kent and Surrey were on Thursday alleged to be attributed to four men who had already been charged at Marylebone with motor thefts. The following were accused at a previous hearing of stealing three motor cars and with being in possession of housebreaking implements:-

James Seymour, 23, fruiterer, of Kennington Road; Walter Joslin, 22, motor driver; Reginald Dickenson, 22, dealer of Beresford Street, Camberwell; and Robert Bonnie, 22, a musician.

Seven further charges where now preferred, including the theft of a Hillman car. Total value of the stolen property is over 1,600.

Mrs Emma J Winship, wife of the licensee of the "Four Horseshoes Inn," Graveney, between Faversham and Seasalter, describe how two men entered her bedroom, one of them carrying an instrument, saying: "Money, and be quick about it. We are out to kill. The man, whom she recognised as Dickenson, continue to threaten her, said Mrs Winship. She identify Bonnie the man who stood at the door with the torch. They took her cash box containing about 35. The telephone wires were cut.

The men were committed for trial, Dickenson pleading not guilty.

 

Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald 27 November 1937.

THE WHITSTABLE IMPS.

The soup supper at the Headquarters, Hamilton Road, on Monday last, was a great success.

On Sunday, a large party of Imps set out on a mystery hike and with the aid of clues all but two reached the "Four Horse Shoes," Graveney, in time for a very welcome tea. We learn that the two "lost sheep" ended their wanderings at the "Dove," Dargate, which is a favourite haunt of the Imps.

A large contingent from Whitstable attended the Herne Bay Imps' dance at the "Connaught Hotel" on Wednesday evening.

 

Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald, Saturday 11 June 1938.

Theft of a trailer caravan at Graveney.

Chatham man sent to prison.

At the Faversham County Petty sessions on Thursday morning, before Mr. J. D. Maxted (in the chair,) Mr. J. Burton, and Mrs. Beacon, Charles Tomlin, 45, New Road, Chatham, was charged on remand with stealing a two-wheel trailer caravan, value 4 10s., the property of Harry Hall, at Graveney on February 8th.

Prosecutor, who lives at "Rosebank," Yorkletts, stated that at 12:30 p.m. on February 8th prisoner came into his house and asked if he had a caravan for sale. He said that Mr. Robinson, late landlord of the "Four Horseshoes," Graveney, had sent him. Witness agreed to let him have it for 4 10s. The caravan was at the "Four Horse Shoes." Prisoner paid 1 deposit and witness gave him a receipt for it. Prisoner said he would pay the remainder at 4 o'clock that day, but witness had not seen him since. Witness gave Mr. Robinson authority to sell the caravan at a reasonable price. The caravan outside the court was witnesses property.

William Francis Robinson, licensee of the "Ship Inn," Ospringe, and previously landlord of the "Four Horse Shoes," Graveney, stated that prosecutor left him the caravan in his possession and told him that he was to sell it for him if he had a suitable offer. When he left the "Four Horse Shoes" the incoming tenant, Mr. Edney, gave him permission to leave the caravan there. At 11 a.m. on February 8th prisoner came into the "Ship" at Ospringe and told him he had been informed that he had a caravan for sale at the "Four Horse Shoes," Graveney, and that he wanted to buy it. Witness offered him a price but he would not accept it so he told him he had better see the owner. About 4:30 p.m. the same day prisoner came to him at the Mill House, Ospringe, and said "Why can't I have the caravan. I have bought it and paid for it. It is mine." Witness asked him if he had a full receipt and prisoner said "No. I have only receipt for the deposit of 1. I purchased the caravan from Mr. Hall for 4 10s. I had only 1 with me so I went to Canterbury to get the remainder. As it is getting dark, I am in a hurry to move the trailer and I did not bother to get the remainder of the receipt." Witness believe his story was true and gave him a written authorisation to Mr. Edney to let the caravan be removed.

Edward Adam Edney, licensee of the "Four Horse Shoes," stated that Mr. Robinson left the trailer in his care and he had no authority to sell it or let it go. On February 8th prisoner came to claim the caravan and said he had paid 1 for it. Witness said "I am sorry. You cannot take it as Mr. Robinson has left it in my charge and until I get his permission the caravan will have to stay here." Prisoner then left. Witness had a telephone conversation with Mr. Robinson and as a result he let prisoner on his return take the caravan.

Detective Cleaver stated that on may 25th he saw prisoner detained at Chatham and read the warrant to him. He replied "I cannot understand it, I paid for it." When formally charged at Faversham he said "I didn't steal it. I bought it."

Prisoner pleaded not guilty and said he paid the balance of 3 10s. to prosecutor in the kitchen of his house between 12 and 1 o'clock on February 8th.

In reply to the chairman he said he did not trouble about the receipt as he had got the caravan. He asked for the receipt for the 1 in order to clinch the deal.

Sybil Ethel Tomlin, wife of prisoner, said they had 3 at home and she had a few shilling and they sold some old rags and brass to make up for the 3 10s. Her husband had the money when he went into Mr. Hall's house. She saw him take the money out of his pocket as he went down the drive.

Answering inspector Baker, witness said they got rid of the caravan two days later because it let the rain in.

Prosecutor re-called, emphatically denied that prisoner had ever paid him the balance.

Inspector Baker said that prisoner was a native of Canterbury and he been in the army. During the last few years he had been residing in Canterbury and was the associate of undesirable characters. For a few weeks he had conduced a third class restaurant, but it did not prove a success. In 1931 he was bound over for shop breaking and larceny and later in the same year he was sentenced for six weeks for being a suspected person. In 1932 he received 12 months for shop-breaking and being in the position of house-breaking implement, and on July 20th, 1936, he received one month and two months to run consecutively for being drunk and disorderly and assaulting the police.

Prisoner pointed out that all these offences were then when he was single and said that since his married he had been going straight.

Prisoner's wife said he was a rotter until he got married, but since he had been working with pick and shovel. She thought he ought to be given a chance.

The bench sentence prisoner to 3 months hard labour.

 

From an email received 24 August 2022.

My Great Great Great Grandad, William Wraight. Licensee 1871+

I was told this story by my Grandad Edgar Knowler, his mother was Williams daughter Emma. He left the pub to live with Emma the postmistress just up the road and took with him his grandfather clock.

When Edgar's mother died the children took turns in choosing her items and Grandad being the youngest chose last and had the clock which I am now the keeper.

The photo I think is William but can't prove it.

 

Martin Allen.

 

LICENSEE LIST

GIBBS Robert 1841-Aug/59 dec'd (also carpenter age 53 in 1851Census)

SETTATREE Jacob 1861 (also master carpenter age 31 in 1861Census)

HOGBEAR John 1861-64+ (age 63 in 1861Census)

WRAIGHT William & Harriett 1871-91+ (also farmer age 69 in 1881Census)

WILKINSON William & Thamasine 1895-1911+ (age 64 in 1911Census) Kelly's 1903

WINSHIP Mr 1924+ Whitstable Times

SHELDON Thomas 1934+

ROBINSON William Francis to June/1938 Next pub licensee had

EDNEY Edward A & Grace 1938-39+

SMITH Geoff 1957+

JENNINGS Alec & Roz 1988+

SMYTH Duncan 2002+ (and closed for short time)

JULL Geraldine 2003+

Closed 2007

Changed name to "Freewheel".

???? Steve & Kim May/2018+

https://pubwiki.co.uk/KentPubs/Graveney/FourHorseShoes.shtml

http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/graveney_fourhorseshoes.html
 

CensusCensus

Whitstable TimesWhitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald

Kelly's 1903From the Kelly's Directory 1903

 

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