Above photo, 1972.

Above photo 2005 by David Hatch Creative Commons Licence.

Above photo, 2015.

Above sign 2011. Photo right shows a panel situated on the building.

From the https://www.newsshopper.co.uk By Sarah Trotter, 3rd May 2013.

Punters' outrage after Eltham's Dutch House pub eyed up by McDonald's.

PUNTERS are outraged that a "landmark" community pub in Eltham is being eyed up by fast-food giants McDonald's.

Plans for "community hub" the "Dutch House" pub, in Sidcup Road, to be turned into a drive-thru McDonald's were submitted to Greenwich Council last month.

There are already seven of the burger joint outlets in five km and protesters say losing this popular pub to the chain would be "selling out".

Pub regular Andy Burrowes, who lives on the nearby Horn Park estate and has rounded up 420 signatures against the proposal, told News Shopper: "It is a local pub and young and old, black and white mix together from the housing estate – you are going to lose that for starters.

Above photo showing campaigner Andy Burrowes.

"I have been drinking here a long time, I get work as a carpenter.

"It is very community centred. It is the hub of the community."

The 45-year-old carpenter added: "If McDonald's get planning permission we are going to be surrounded by McDonald's and this pub was built for the estate."

The "welcoming" atmosphere of the pub means it is also a favourite for adults with learning disabilities.

Alan Brown, who leads a weekly trip to the pub, said: "We are not going to allow this [the closure] to happen.

"I take adults with learning disabilities to the "Dutch House" – they make us more than welcome.

"They make it special."

South east London Campaign for Real Ale (CAMRA) have backed the campaign and say it would be an "absolute crime" for the application to be pushed through.

CAMRA pub protection officer Neil Pettigrew told News Shopper: "It would be an absolute crime if this pub gets turned into a McDonald's.

"It’s a major landmark and a beautiful building.

"If the owners want to dispose of it, they should make it a pub and give someone else an opportunity to run it.

"They should not sell out to McDonald's.

"Selling out to a fast-food restaurant should only be a last resort, however the pub is thriving and financially viable."

It comes as boozers in the area are taking a knocking with nearby watering hole the "Porcupine" in Mottingham set for demolition after it was bought by Lidl.

Eltham MP Clive Efford says he is concerned about the loss of pubs in the area and raises issues including the impact of a poor diet on a deprived area, concern for children at nearby Middle Park Primary School, and increased traffic around Mottingham Lane.

He said: "The loss of the pub represents a loss of local amenity and we have lost far too many. I want to see more action taken to protect them. They are part of our culture and heritage.

"As much as I would welcome the jobs, the location of McDonald's is inappropriate here.

"There are inappropriate health issues relating to McDonald's – there is a primary school on the estate.

"I would also be concerned about accidents on that section of the road."

Responses:-

A spokesperson for Stonegate Pub Company, which leases the "Dutch House," said: "The Company is currently under contract to assign this lease to McDonald's, subject to planning approval.

"There is no confirmed timetable for the conclusion of this process. The pub remains open and trading as usual with a busy bank holiday weekend planned with a car boot fair at the pub on Saturday.”

A spokesman for McDonald's said: "A new McDonald’s would bring investment to the area and provide 65 full and part-time jobs for the community.

We are excited about the prospect of investing in Eltham and are working with the Council on our plans."

From the https://www.mylondon.news By Angie Quinn, 10 January 2020.

What South London derelict pub The Dutch House could be turned into.

And it's very good news for locals.

The Dutch House was a huge pub located in Eltham and locals loved it.

Not only did it have a cosy outdoor seating area but the pub also served very reasonably priced food - with a similar menu you would expect to see in a Harvester.

The steak and chips mid-week meal deals were always a winner.

And considering its located on the busy Sidcup Road people passing between Kent and London would have also stopped here to enjoy a pint at some point.

The Dutch House pub in Eltham has remained an eye-sore for years (Image: Angie Quinn).

But sadly, the lease of the venue was handed back to the owner in September 2016 and the boozer has remained one big eye-sore ever since it closed down, and it's a crying shame.

Clive Efford MP supported a campaign to grant the pub special status as an asset of community value in 2014, this stopped fast food companies from swooning in on the site.

McDonald's submitted a planning application but was refused.

There's already a Maccy D's drive through and restaurant one mile away from the Dutch House at the old location of the "Yorkshire Grey" pub on Westhorne Avenue, Eltham.

But there is light at the end of the tunnel for the Dutch House as developers have been given the green light to split it into two new businesses.

The mix use scheme will also comprise of two self-contained flats on the second floor.

According to plans submitted to Greenwich Council, the Dutch House will be transformed into a pub and residential properties on the left hand side and then the builders merchant on the right, along with a covered yard.

Works have officially started at the site however there currently has been no announcement as to when the venues will be completed and open to the public.

But we'll look forward to the announcement.