DOVER KENT ARCHIVES

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PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1828-

Old White Hart

Closed 1913+

High Street

Orpington

 

Not to be confused with the current "White Hart" this one was demolished circa 1913 and the new one built on a nearby site.

This building is not the same as the existing "White Hart." The old "White Hart" was a separate building that was situated behind the current building. The existing "White Hart" was built circa 1913 and for a very short time both buildings existed. The old building was demolished soon after. The landlord at the time (Albert Spencer-May) was very beneficial to Orpington in that he opened a Cinema in 1911 (The Carlton) and then later in 1933 a super-cinema (The Commodore).

 

South Eastern Gazette,10 January, 1860.

BROMLEY.

At the Patty Sessions, held at the "Bell Inn," on Monday, before Lord Sydney and five other magistrates, the following licenses were transferred:—

The "White Hart," Orpington, from Thomas Hayward to James Bruce.

The "Five Bells," Chelsfield, from Mrs. Sarah Jones to James Saker.

The "Guy, Earl of Warwick," Welling, from Henry Bartlett to W. K. Tritton.

There was no police business.

 

Aberdeen Herald and General Advertiser 15 February 1862.

BURNS' BIRTHNIGHT IN KENT.

Sir.—For the benefit of your readers, who are scattered over the globe, allow me to describe how a few Scotchmen spent a night full of enjoyment on the birthday of our National Bard. We sat down to dinner at the "White Hart," in Orpington, eight in number—a plumber, a schoolmaster, a reporter, a boilermaker, a sergeant in the Scots Greys, wounded at Waterloo; a Scots Fusilier, who had been in the four Crimean battles; our landlord, Mr. Bruce, who had been in the Crimea and China; an old gentleman from the hills of Strathglass, and a humble disciple of Hippocrates; and Dr. Kilgour, who filled the chair. At the head of the table, a sheep's paunch sent up a cloud of grateful incense, for the unexpected honour of being elevated to the chieftainship of the pudding race; in the centre, a handsome roast showed our appreciation of that gracious toast, "The land we live in;" whilst at the bottom a sheep's head raised its eyes and trotters beseechingly towards heaven, for the unheard of indignity of having its curly locks singed and jeered at the blacksmith's forge. Our dinner was seasoned and prolonged by many a Scottish anecdote, a species of humour, which has almost no parallel in English conversation; then followed "The Queen;" "The Immortal Memory of the Poet;" "The Land o' Cakes;" " The Land we live in;" "Scotch Lasses;" "Sir Walter;" "Hogg, Tannshill, and Ramsay;" "The Empress Eugenie," and a host of other toasts. Of songs we had "The barrin’ o’ our door;" "The weary pand o’ tow," &c. After "Scots wha hae" was sung, our Scots Grey, whose Herculean frame and splendid bearing made him a worthy namesake of the hero of Scotland, remarked to our Landlord, "Ay, man, the Kentish folk would hae lookit unco queer, five hundred years ago, gin they had seen Bruce and Wallace sitting together in the "White Hart," drinking whisky toddy!" Our ancient Gael, after descanting very fervently, if not very logically, on the ventability of old Ousian, gave us a Ross-shire pibroch in splendid style. The Fusilier, in replying to his health, did so in these pathetic and noble words — "Gentlemen, I thank you from my heart for the honour you have conferred upon me; but I would much rather that the Chairman had proposed the toast that I now shall drink — "The memory of my comrades in arms who fell in the field of glory beside me." Haring sung " Auld Langsyne," with folded arms and grasping hands, which caused an Englishman present to exclaim that he no more would wonder that Scotchmen clung together all the world over, we broke up as sober as judges of the present century.

SCOTUS IN ANGLIA.

 

Kentish Mercury, Saturday 28 October 1865.

A NEIGHBOUR.

Johanna Fraud, married woman, was charged with being drunk, creating a disturbance, and assaulting Mr. Charles Packham, landlord the "White Hart" public house, in the parish Orpington.

It appeared by the evidence of the prosecutor that on Monday evening last the prisoner, who had been drinking, came to the front of his bar and called for something to drink, which he carried into the tap room to her. When he told her that he intended to give her notice to quit the adjoining house, which she rented from him; no doubt being guided the old maxim that an empty house better than bail tenant. This appeared to annoy her, and she began to talk in alto, sharp. Told her to keep quiet, there was a gentleman named Fry, of Blackheath suffering in the house from an accident. Instead of desisting, however, she went to the front of the bar, and shouting upstairs the sick gentleman, called him very bad names. Mr. Fry requested that she might be turned out of the house, which witness managed to do, after much trouble, and then gave her into the custody of police-constable Besom, who had still much greater trouble in conveying her to the station; where she bit his thumb. Police sergeant 16 deposed to receiving the prisoner from the constable, who was not, however, in attendance before the Bench. Mr. Coles Child said the constable should have been present, as without his evidence the case was incomplete. The prisoner, in defence, could only account for what had happened to her having had a quartern gin at the ba, and a quartern of gin, and the same of brandy, in the tap-room, of which Mr. Packham partook. she had done wrong she was very sorry for it. Inspector Linvell having stated that there was a similar case against her at Sidcup, about twenty-four weeks ago, the prisoner said she would never drink another half-pint beer in her lifetime. The prosecutor said the prisoner was in his house about three hours; but the magistrates told him they thought he had acted very injudiciously in supplying the woman with more drink when she was in liquor. The prisoner said she spent 4s. in the house during the time she was there. This being so, there must evidently have been a pretty long session of three quarterns. There was second charge against the prisoner of creating a disturbance the "White Hart" on Saturday last, whilst out on bail the recent-recorded charge, and which the Bench now determined to take. The prisoner pleaded not guilty. Mr. Packham said that on Saturday afternoon, between one and two o'clock, the prisoner came into his house, went into the tap-room, where a number of navvies were seated, and commenced disturbance with them; telling them she had a husband and a big son at home, who would thrash the whole of them. Witness fastened the tap-room door to prevent her getting to the bar. When she found she could not get out she hallooed and called for pint of ale. His wife opened the door, and refused to serve her. They managed, after great difficulty, to get her into the street, and fastened every door to prevent her entrance, and sent for the police. She then took up half brick, and swore by it that she would do for them after it was dark. When the police arrived he once more gave her into custody. The house had been closed for two hours. Prisoner said when the policeman came she was in her own house. She came out of it and saw the policeman in the "White Hart," and after remaining there an hour he came and took her into custody as she was sitting with her baby at the threshold of her door.

The Bench considered both charges proved, and for the first offence find of 10s., costs 6d., 14 days' hard labour, was inflicted; and for the second fine 6s., costs 4s. 6d., or 7 days. The money was paid; rather a large sum for the husband and the big son to earn.

Transcribed by Graham Wootten.

 

 

LICENSEE LIST

POOLE Richard 1828+ Pigot's Directory 1828-29

POOLE Sarah 1832-41+ Pigot's Directory 1832-34 (age 55 in 1841Census)

POOLE Richard 1851-58+ (age 30 in 1851Census)

HAYWARD Thomas to Jan/1860

BRUCE James Jan/1860-61+ (age 42 in 1861Census)

Last pub licensee had PACKHAM Charles 1865-71+ (age 54 in 1871Census)

WATKINS William 1874+

MILLS Walter 1881+ (age 25 in 1881Census)

GORE Henry 1882+

BARR Mr 1906+

MAY Albert Spencer 1911-13+ (age 31 in 1911Census)

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Pigot's Directory 1828-29From the Pigot's Directory 1828-29

Pigot's Directory 1832-34From the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34

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