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48 Amersham Vale / Douglas Way
New Cross
Above photo, circa 1888, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe. What looks like
having been a busy day for the pub, with a brewery dray delivering beer
to the pub and a drayman standing near the front door, presumably
adjacent to the cellar flap. When this photograph was taken, the pub was
one of around 200 licensed houses, within the tied estate of Reid's
Griffin Brewery, Clerkenwell, London E1. |
Above Google image April 2019, showing the same location. |
I have also seen this pub addressed as St. Paul, Deptford in 1854 and 1866.
I believe the building was demolished in the 1970s.
Now part of Greater London, this area was indeed Kent before 1965. Hence,
I will be adding information regarding this pub as and when I find or it is
sent to me.
Your help is appreciated, and every email is answered.
I have reference to an "Admiral
Sir Charles Napier" addressed in Deptford, which I believe to be one and
the same as this. Although not yet confirmed.
Above painting of Admiral Napier, circa 1847.
As well-known and respected as Lord Nelson in the early/mid-19th
century, Admiral Charles Napier (1786-1860) was a remarkable
officer, with a career in the Royal Navy which spanned no fewer than
six decades! Napier was considered something of a radical in his
day, being an early adopter of the idea of steam power and promoting
the transition to iron-clad ships. In the heyday of wooden-walled
sailing ships, such heretical ideas made him few friends in the
Admiralty! Neither did Napier's efforts to improve conditions of
service for ordinary seaman, advocating the banning of press gangs
and attempting to abolish flogging. However, the British public
thought well enough of Napier, to name pubs in his honour: high
praise indeed! I've added a c.1847 image of Admiral Napier.
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Orr's Kentish Journal, 17 May 1862.
Transfer of Licences.
"Admiral Napier," Amersham-vale, from Elizabeth Hay to Elizabeth
Ferris.
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From an email received 14 August 2022.
I was carrying out some research for my book on The Man who Broke the Bank at Monte Carlo,
and came across a reference to a Lionel William Bartram, who was the
licensee of the pub around the early 1890s. He was apparently the
son of William Bartram who owned a brewery in Tonbridge.
Lionel would have come into his inheritance on reaching the age of
21 in about 1886. It would appear that he squandered all his money
and was in serious financial difficulties by 1890. He replied to an
advertisement placed by the fraudster Charles Wells (better known as
‘Monte Carlo Wells’) who promised to turn the sum of £750 into a
fortune. Lionel somehow got hold of the £750 (which would be the
equivalent of about £75,000 today). But – along with many other
victims of Wells – he lost every penny.
When I wrote the biography of Charles Wells, which came out in 2016,
I did not have all of the above info because Bartram’s name was
quoted in the press as ‘Barton’ and therefore I could not trace him.
I’m now writing a second, updated edition and there will certainly
be some mention of Lionel Bartram this time.
If you’d like me to send over any further info on this topic that I
may find, I’ll be pleased to send it over to you.
Kind regards,
Robin Quinn. |
LICENSEE LIST
FREAME William Henry Sept/1854-55+

WILCOX
1857-61 (age 65 in 1861 )
HAY Elizabeth to May/1862
FERRIS Elizabeth May/1862-May/65
PALMER William Court May/1865-Jan/70
BOYCE John Jan/1870+
BUSSELL Robert 1874+
CARNELL Robert 1881+ (age 42 in 1881 )
SMITH Henry 1884+
BARTRAM Lionel William 1890s
GRIFFITHS Mary 1894-95+
TURNWELL Richard 1910-12+
OSBORNE William 1913-17+
OSBORNE Amy 1920+
KELLY Alfred 1944+
KELLY Frank (son) & Doris after 1944-56+
MORLEY Sidney George 1961+
https://pubwiki.co.uk/AdmiralNapier.shtml
Census
West Kent Guardian
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