25 Peter Street (St. Peter's Street)
Dover
Travelling towards Charlton from the High Street the
premises would have been on your left. Luke Stephens served in 1841 but by
1877 there were joint owners. Cottenham and Flavins Kingsford. They
attempted that year to transfer the licence to Clarendon, (probably 26
Clarendon Place). They were prevented from doing so and this pub was closed
the following year anyway when rowdiness and prostitution were alleged. It
does not seem to have opened again. Tenants were shy of this one.
Kentish Weekly Post or Canterbury Journal 25 March
1806.
HOME CIRCUIT.
Maidstone, Wednesday, March 19.
Richard Butcher was indicted for the murder of George Farr, at Dover,
by giving him several mortal blows and kicks, on the 15th of October, of
which he died on the 23rd of the same month. By the evidence of
William Gee, a soldier in the Herefordshire Militia, it appeared that
the Prisoner and the deceased were both private soldiers. On the 15th
of October the prisoner and deceased were playing cards, at the
"Carpenter's Arms," in Dover; they quarrelled about a chalk, and they
began boxing; the prisoner kicked at the deceased as well as struck him.
In the third round they fell, and the prisoner's left knee fell in the
belly of the deceased. He immediately cried out very much, and begged to
be led out to make water; they led him to the door, but no water could
pass. He begged to be laid on his back on the table, and then declared
that the prisoner had killed him. - He lived a few days and then died.
The Assistant-Surgeon of the regiment proved that deceased died of an
inflammation in the bladder, occasioned by external violence. The Jury
found the prisoner Guilty of Manslaughter, and he was sentenced to six
months imprisonment. (With there being
several "Carpenter's Arms listed in Dover, and no address given, this
may not be the premises where the above took place. I would say it was
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From the Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports General
Advertiser, Saturday 23 January, 1841. Price 5d.
DOVER POLICE REPORT
Monday:- John Williams, shoemaker, was charged by Mr. Luke Stevens,
of the "Carpenter's Arms," Charlton, with having violently assaulted
him, on the previous Thursday evening, under the following
circumstances:- It appeared that Williams and a clique of several
others, who used to be constant attendants at the far-famed house known
by the name of the "Black Horse," and being turned out of their old
quarters, laid lately taken it into their heads to spend their evenings
at the "Carpenter's Arms," and to the small annoyance of the landlord of
the house, and his more peaceable customers. On Thursday evening, being
again assembled, the landlord refused to draw any more liquor after
eleven o'clock; when they fastened the door and remained in the room
nearly an hour; committing all kinds of nuisance. At last, however, they
made their exit from the window. Mr. Stevens was then standing at the
front door, when Williams came up to him, and said he would go in again.
On being denied admittance any more that night, Williams seized the
complainant by the collar, and dragging him into the street, violently
assaulted him. The Magistrates complimented Mr. Stevens for his conduct
on the occasion, and for bringing the defendant to the bar of justice;
adding, that they wished al the publicans in the town would do likewise.
Williams was then fined in the mitigating penalty of 10s. and 10s. cost;
in default of which a fortnight's imprisonment.
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From the Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports General
Advertiser, Saturday 13 March, 1841. Price 5d.
CORONER'S INQUEST
On Wednesday evening an inquest was held at the "Carpenter's
Arms," Charlton, before G. T. Thompson, Esq. the borough coroner, and a
respectable jury, touching the death of Samuel Young, a child about 10
weeks old, son of William Young, labourer.
Julia Ann Chapman, on being sworn, deposed that between 9 and 10
o'clock on Saturday morning, while she was hanging out some clothes,
George Young, a child about 4 years old, ran out of his father's house,
crying for his mother, and saying that the baby had caught light. She
immediately ran into the house and found the child, who was lying before
the fire, about a foot from the fender, enveloped in flames. She
immediately caught the child up in her arms, and ran with it into Mrs.
Spearpoint's house, were the flames were extinguished. There was a wood
fire in the grate.
Mrs. Francis Spearpoint, widow, deposed that at about half-past nine
o'clock on Saturday morning, hearing some screams, she went out of her
house, and close to it, met the last witness with the deceased in her
arms, enveloped in flames. She took the child, and the fire was
extinguished. Hearing some one say that Mrs. Young's house was on fire,
she gave the deceased into the hands of some one present, and went to
see. On entering the house, she observed that the mat which lay before
the fender was on fire, which she extinguished with some water which was
boiling over the fire. There was a lighted firebrand which lay on the
mat, but she could not saw whether that set it on fire. bout an hour
after the accident occurred, Mrs. Young sent for Mr. Hunt, surgeon, who
attended the deceased until his death, which took place on Tuesday
morning. The lower extremities of the body were much burnt, and the
child seemed to breath under the greatest agony till death relieved it
of its sufferings. Mrs. Young was in the habit of going out frequently,
and leaving the children alone.
Mrs. Young, mother of the deceased, said that on Saturday morning she
left the deceased with its brother George, who is about four years old,
and his sister, who is two years younger, to go to a neighbour's for
some wash. She told George to take care of the child while she was gone,
for she should not be absent for more than a minute. She was, however,
gone about a quarter of an hour - not more. When she returned, she was
told that her child was badly burnt. She had seen both of her children
play with the fire, and had flogged them for it. It was a wood fire that
was in the grate.
Verdict - "That the deceased died from its clothes having caught
fire; but by what means they became ignited, there is no evidence before
the jury."
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From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer,
2 December, 1865. Price 1d.
ASSAULT
Charles Cole, a man who has on previous occasions appeared before the
Bench, was charged with drunkenness and disorderly conduct, and
assaulting Charles Romney, landlord of the "Carpenter's Arms," at his
residence, Peter Street, Charlton.
It appeared for the statement of the complainant that defendant
entered his house about a quarter past ten on the preceding night. He
was in liquor, and on his calling for a pint of beer, complainant
declined to draw it for him. He then began to swear and "blackguard"
him, when complainant told him to go out, saying that if he did not go
out quietly he would put him out. Defendant refused to go, witness
commenced pushing him out of the house, when defendant struck him and
knocked him down. Complainant did not push him violently. Two persons
who were present pulled defendant off him. Witness's wife then sent for
the police, and witness gave him in charge. On a policeman appearing
defendant went with him quietly.
Cross-examined by defendant: I don't know who hit you in the eye. You
were very drunk.
William Pain said he was at the "Carpenter's Arms" on the previous
night. He saw the defendant come in. Defendant was drunk. He called for
a pint of beer, which the landlord refused to draw for him. Defendant
then began to kick up a disturbance and the landlord wanted him to leave
the house. He refused to go, and the landlord told him if he did not go
he should put him out. The landlord took hold of him to carry his threat
into execution, when the defendant hit him in the face. They then
scuffled in the passage, and both went down. Witness helped pull the
landlord up, and a policeman was then sent for.
The defendant had nothing to say in answer to the charge, except that
he was drunk, and knew nothing of what had occurred. He had, however,
been badly knocked about as his face testified, and he trusted the
Magistrates would think he was not altogether to blame.
The Magistrates considered the assault proved, and fined the
defendant 10s. including costs. In default of payment, seven days'
imprisonment.
The defendant paid the fine.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday
4 October, 1867.
PUBLIC HOUSE OFFENCES
In the case of Charles Macey, landlord of the "Carpenter's Arms,"
summoned for an infringement of his license by having his house open on
Sunday last, during prohibited hours, the defendant did not attend, and
the services of summons having been proved, the particulars of the
offence were deposed of to Sergeant Stevens, after which the Magistrates
inflicted a fine of £1 and costs. The wife of the defendant attended,
but her excuses had no effect on the bench.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday
15 January, 1869.
Edward Groombridge, for assaulting Mrs. Pain, of the "Carpenter's
Arms," Peter Street, was fined 10s. and costs; in default, he went to
prison for 14 days.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 29
September, 1871.
PUBLIC-HOUSE TO LET
The "Carpenter's Arms," Peter Street, Charlton, Dover; also the "Lord
Raglan," near the South-Eastern Railway Station, Folkestone. Apply
to Alfred Kingsford, Buckland Brewery, Dover.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer, 31
August, 1877. Price 1d.
DOVER LICENSING MEETING
The landlord was called, and told that although there had been no
conviction against the house, there had been several complaints, and the
Bench cautioned the landlord that a conviction might take place if
he were not more careful, in that case the Bench would suspend the
licence. The license now would be granted.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 2 November, 1877.
IN TROUBLE AGAIN
Emma Gatehouse was summoned on the information of Sarah Elizabeth Winter
for being disorderly on the premises known as the “Carpenter's Arms,” in
Peter Street, and with refusing to leave such premises when requested to
do so.
Mrs. Winter said her husband kept the “Carpenters' Arms.” Last Thursday
evening the defendant came to the house with a man and called for a
quart of beer which they were supplied with. They sat down by the fire
and complainant told them that was not allowed and requested them to
leave the house. They became very abusive and would not go until a
policeman was called.
Defendant stated that she was not requested to leave the house or she
would have done so.
Mr. Finnis: But the complainant swears you were.
The Bench said persons holding public-house licenses were responsible
for the way in which their houses were conducted, and if the defendant
was requested to leave she must leave; they should impose a fine of 10s.
and costs, or seven days' imprisonment.
Defendant said she would go to prison.
A voice from the gallery: Say thank you.
Defendant: I have said “thank you.”
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 7 December, 1877.
ADVERSE TO THE COLD
Bernard Conley, of the 6th Regt., was charged with breaking and entering
the dwelling house of Mr. S. Winter, Peter Street.
Samuel Winter said: I keep the “Carpenter's Arms” in Peter Street. The
prisoner was in my house about half-past six last evening and remained
till about nine. He was sober when he left. My wife locked up the house
at eleven and came to bed. Shortly after eleven I heard a smash of
glass, and at once struck a light and went down stairs into the
tap-room, where I saw a large pane of glass broken in the top sash,
which had been pulled down. I saw the prisoner crouched down in the
corner of the room and asked him what he wanted there. He said it was
very cold outside and he wanted to get warm so he thought he would come
in. My wife then came down stairs and called to a man to fetch a
policeman. The prisoner did not try to get away. I do not think he got
through the broken pane but must have got over the sash and broken it
with his foot. The amount of damage is about 5s. I think the man was
under the influence of drink.
Mrs. Winters said the window of the tap-room, at the back of the house,
was closed but not fastened. The prisoner returned about a quarter to
eleven that evening and went into the tap-room. After he had been in
there a few minutes he left by the back of the house.
The Superintendent said the prisoner had been two months in prison for
assaulting a policeman.
The Bench sent him below for another three months.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent
Intelligencer, 29 March, 1878. Price 1d.
KEEPING A BAD HOUSE
Samuel Winter was charged, on remand, for having on the 15th of March
unlawfully and knowingly opened his house, the "Carpenter's Arms," for
the resort of reputed prostitutes.
Mr. Worsfold Mowll defended the prisoner.
Police-sergeant Hardman deposed: On Friday, the 15th inst., at eight
o'clock in the evening, in company with Police-constable Prescott, I
visited the "Carpenter's Arms," in Peter Street, Charlton, kept by
defendant. I there saw three prostitutes in front of the bar - two
Gatehouses and another named Ratcliff. The landlady was there, and I
cautioned her. She said they came in for refreshment, and were allowed
twenty minutes. At a quarter past eight I was at the end of Colebran
Street with Police-constable Prescott, and saw two of the same women
leave the back premises and go up to the end of Colebran Street. They
then came back and went into the house again. At twenty minutes past
eight we visited the house again, and found the same three women in
front of the bar still. I sent Prescott to the back while I remained in
Peter Street, and at a quarter to nine I saw one of the three
prostitutes leave the house with a soldier. I then went to the back of
the "Carpenter's Arms," and at nine o'clock visited the house again, and
found two of the same women I had found before in front of the bar with
some soldiers.
Cross-examined by Mr. Mowll: There is a passage right through the
house, from the back to the front leading into Peter Street. I am not
aware that the passage is used as a short cut by the inhabitants of
Peter Street. The back premises are open. There is a back yard, but it
is always open. There were no seats along the front of the bar, and the
women had to stand. I do not know whether the Gatehouse's friends live
down Peter Street. I saw the landlady on the first occasion I went, and
she told me they were allowed twenty minutes for refreshment. She told
me the previous night that that information was given to her by Mr.
Vidler. She did not tell me she had applied for a summons against one of
these women for going into the tap-room. On the second occasion I went
in, and there were two glasses of beer and one of porter standing on the
bar counter.
Police-constable Prescott collaborated the Superintendent's evidence.
Mr. Mowll, in addressing the Bench in defence of his client said: He
need not point out the importance of the case to the defendant, because
from the policy their worship had adopted any offence committed under
the Licensing Act operated to nullify the agreement, and the landlord at
once got rid of the tenant who had committed the offence, and therefore
the defendant might be thrown out of a house and home in consequence of
that clause. He would ask them to bear in mind the position of the
house, and the class of house it necessarily was. he believed he was
correct in making the statement that the defendant was extremely,
particular never to allow one of these unfortunate girls into the
tap-room, and only to have refreshments in front of the tap-room, and
only to have refreshments in front of the bar, where they remained no
longer than was absolutely necessary to consume the refreshment ordered.
The defendant's wife had applied at Mr. Stillwell's office a short time
since for a summons against one of these girls for entering the tap-room
against her orders, and was told that they had a right to enter the
tap-room so long as they did not remain longer than was necessary for
the purpose of consuming the refreshment they ordered. As he was
instructed, on several occasions when the women came to the house they
did not have any drink at all, and had only been in the house a few
moments when the constable first went in, but he could not ask their
worships to believe that story, although he believed the landlady was
perfectly truthful in what she had instructed him.
Mr. Mowll then called Sarah Elizabeth Minter, who deposed: I am the
wife of defendant, who keeps the "Carpenter's Arms." On the night in
question my husband was away, and I was conducting business. There is a
passage through from the front to the back of our premises, which is
used as a thoroughfare. On the 15th inst., when Harman came to my house
I told him I knew who I had got. Shortly afterwards two of the girls
left the house, but I do not know where they went. Harman is not right
in saying there were three. I do not let them to go into the tap-room. I
do not allow them to sit down at all. I have been in the house a year
and seven months. If the magistrates could order me not to serve these
women I should be glad not to do so.
The Superintendent said there had been no previous convictions
against the house.
Mr. Jones said Mr. Mowll mentioned the fact of the girls not being in
the tap-room, but he had omitted to state that one of the girls was seen
leaving the house with a soldier. The girls were evidently at the bar
for the purpose of entrapping the soldiers as they left the house.
Mr. Mowll said that was a very strained construction to put upon the
evidence. A man might meet one of the girls at the door and walk off
with her, but that was no evidence of harbouring prostitutes.
Police-sergeant Harman recalled, said he saw a soldier and a woman
leave the house - a red coat man and Emma Gatehouse. The woman in court
who came out with the militiaman, left some time before he saw the
others.
My Mr. Stilwell: He saw a militiaman and a woman come out together.
Charles Smith deposed: I am a bandsman in the Kent Artillery Militia.
I use the house as a thoroughfare and generally get a glass of beer as I
pass through. I have used the house many times , and have never seen the
tap-room used by prostitutes.
The Bench considered the case proved, and find the defendant 40s. and
costs, the license to be endorsed.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 6 September, 1878
DOVER ANNUAL LICENSING SESSIONS
The annual sitting of the Dover Magistrates Licensing Committee took
place on Monday at Dover, for the purpose of renewing public-house
licenses, and hearing applications for new ones. The Licensing Committee
consists of E. F. Astley, S. Finnis, R. Dickeson, T. E. Black, R. Rees,
W. R. Mowll, and C. Stein, Esqrs. They were all present except Mr.
Dickeson, who is in Cumberland.
THE CARPENTERS' ARMS – A WOMAN'S RESORT
Mr. Worsfold Mowll applied that the licence might be granted in the name
of the owners until a tenant was found to the satisfaction of the Bench.
They had a tenant ready to take the house, but they could not make an
application that day, so he asked them as a matter of courtesy to grant
it to the owner of the house until the next special Petty Sessions, when
he would apply for the licence to be transferred to the tenant.
Dr. Astley said he presumed Mr. Mowll knew that a conviction was
obtained against the house, and the licence endorsed for allowing the
house to be the habitual resort of prostitutes.
Mr. Mowll said that was so, and directly, on the owner hearing of the
case, he immediately gave notice to the tenant to quit the premises, and
within a week the house was closed; and it had been since kept closed in
order to get the women out of the habit of going there, so that a new
tenant might have an opportunity of keeping the house respectably.
The Bench refused the application and Mr. Mowll intimated that an appeal
would be made at the Quarter Sessions.
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LICENSEE LIST
STEVENS Luke 1841+ (age 30 in 1841)
STEVENS Mrs Ann 1851
HUCKSTEPP J 1853
HUCKSTEPP Stephen 1854-58+
ROMNEY Charles 1862-Jan/67
MACEY Charles E Jan/1867-Jan/68 end
PAIN William Jan/1868-69+
PALMER Henry 1871+ (age 29 in 1871)
SADDLETON Johnn Sept/1871-July/72
FORSTER Henry James July/1872+
RAND Stephen 1874
WINTER Samuel Aug/1876-Mar/78+
KINSGFORD Cottenham & Flavin 1877 (owner brewers)
From Melville's Directory 1858
From the Post Office Directory 1862
From the Post Office Directory 1874
From the Dover Express
Census
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