35-39 Grace Hill
Folkestone
Reference to this club was kindly sent to me from Jan Pedersen, however,
little is known about it to date. It is suggested that the premises changed
name to Tom Brown's, but research also gives me the name of Toft's.
While operating as the "Cartoon Club" it was being run by Dave Godden."
Folkestone Herald 12 June 1992.
Local News.
A rear glass window, costing £200, was smashed at the Cartoon Club in
Grace Hill, Folkestone.
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Folkestone Herald 19 June 1992.
Local News.
In last week's edition of the Herald we incorrectly reported that a
window at the Cartoon Club in Grace Hill, Folkestone, was smashed. We
wish to make clear that the Cartoon Club was not the business
vandalised. The original information supplied was printed in good faith.
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Folkestone Herald 3 July 1992.
Local News.
The Cartoon disco in Folkestone has had its public entertainments
licence renewed on condition it carries out noise-proofing work. A
licence for the Grace Hill nightspot had been temporarily granted until
now, while noise levels were being monitored. The Cartoon has already
spent £4,500 on the first stage of soundproofing. If that is not
successful, more work will be done.
Peter Wells, assistant environmental health director for Shepway, said
“I appreciate the management's attitude. Earlier on, we told the Cartoon
it wasn't ready for opening because more work was needed and that was
cheerfully accepted”.
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Folkestone Herald 9 October 1992.
Local News.
A local night club could face closure and up to 15 jobs losses because
the council has refused to renew its public entertainments licence.
The Cartoon Club, in Grace Hill, Folkestone, has now launched an appeal
against the decision by Shepway's entertainments and licensing
sub-committee. But a mix-up over opening times has cost the club
hundreds of pounds in lost takings and some staff had been laid off.
Manager David Godden said he had understood the decision had meant he
would have to close early. “I was told we would have to close at 11 p.m.
rather than 2 a.m. from Thursday. So we closed at 11 p.m. on Thursday,
Friday, Saturday and Monday. Normally our takings are £2,500 a week.
Last week they dropped to £500”. Mr. Godden explained Shepway council
had now informed him his licence was still in force and would remain so
for 21 days after the start of an appeal. He told the Herald an appeal
would definitely be launched and he would be reinstating staff he had
laid off. After the decision last week, Mr. Godden had said “That's it –
it's finished. It's hard on the staff and everyone who's worked to make
a go of it in the past few months, but what can you do? We've already
spent more than £4,500 on soundproofing and we were prepared to spend
more if it would mean not upsetting out neighbours”.
The committee decided not to renew the licence because of complaints
from neighbours about noise despite Mr. Godden's efforts to soundproof
the walls and ceiling.
Louise Simpson and Terry Mulcahy, both of Copthall Gardens, whose flats
adjoin the club, told the committee noise from the disco was audible
well into the night. Mr. Mulcahy said “The noise is audible to the
degree it is possible to tell which records are being played and persons
can be heard singing along. On one occasion the noise was so loud it
caused the taps in my kitchen to vibrate”.
Mrs. Simpson said “We have tried to co-operate with these gentlemen and
spoken to them several times on a very friendly basis, but the fact
remains the soundproofing that's been done so far isn't enough. The
noise is still intolerable and I shouldn't have to put up with it in my
own home”.
Alan Milton, senior environmental health officer, and Cyril Jarret,
chief building control officer, said although they felt the
soundproofing had reduced the noise it wasn't enough and they
recommended the application was refused.
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Folkestone Herald 11 December 1992.
Local News.
The manager of a local nightspot claims there is a campaign to stop him
opening late at night. Dave Godden, who runs the Cartoon Club in Grace
Hill, Folkestone, says since he lost his public entertainments licence
in October because of complaints about noise troubles have piled up.
After spending more than £10,000 soundproofing the walls of the club to
the satisfaction of both neighbours and the council's environmental
health officers he was due to appear before the entertainments licensing
sub-committee on Wednesday to ask to have his licence renewed. But
hardly had the work been completed and given the all-clear than the
council told him he hadn't filled in a building notice form for the
work. “The soundproofing has been done in two stages, the plan being if
the first stage wasn't enough, and it wasn't, we would proceed with the
second stage, which we have done. I'd filled out a form for the first
part of the work, and had no idea I would have to fill out another for
the rest, so the first I heard of it was when all the work had been
done”, Mr. Godden said. Council officials checked the work and agreed it
was all up to standard, but the form still had to be filled in and
another fee paid. Finally, days before his application for a licence was
due to be heard, Mr. Godden received a copy of another letter sent to
the council from someone living in nearby Foord Road complaining of
“numerous inconveniences” caused by customers leaving the club late at
night. These included accusations of shouting and screaming, fighting
and swearing and acts of vandalism related to the complainant's car,
which had been damaged on several occasions. “It's ridiculous to say my customers are responsible for all this when
there's no evidence. Am I to be blamed for every act of violence and
vandalism in the town? I have done everything I can to contain the noise
and fulfil every condition the council has imposed on me but I just get
knocked back every time. I can't help feeling there's someone out there
who really doesn't want me to open again”, Mr. Godden said. |
Folkestone Herald 25 December 1992.
Local News.
Folkestone's Cartoon Club has won back its public entertainments licence
but will still be closing its doors at 11 p.m.
At a meeting of the entertainments and licensing sub-committee
councillors agreed club manager Dave Godden should be allowed to have
his licence back. But they reminded him his special licence, allowing
him to serve alcohol with meals until 2 a.m., was still revoked, and the
earliest he could re-apply for it was in January.
“It's ridiculous. I'm the only club in Folkestone with a licence to stay
open until two in the morning serving orange squash. Rather than face
the aggravation that's bound to start when you cut people off and tell
them to switch to soft drinks, I'll shut the doors at 11 o'clock”, he
said.
It's the latest blow in a series of setbacks which have dogged the club,
in Grace Hill, since it lost its licence in October after complaints
from neighbours about noise. As a result Mr. Godden was forced to lay
off his staff because he lost so much business and has been running the
club on his own. More that £10,000 has been spent on soundproofing the
club and having it checked and tested by sound engineers to make sure
the levels were acceptable. Then, days before the licensing application
was due to be heard, someone living in nearby Foord Road wrote to the
council complaining of “numerous inconveniences” caused by people
leaving the club late at night.
It looked as though Mr. Godden's licence would not be renewed, but once
councillors were satisfied the noise problem had been cured, they gave
the go-ahead. Minutes later he was hit with the news his special licence
remained revoked and it was soft drinks only after 11 p.m.
“All this time, money and effort to make sure I could open for Christmas
and New Year and it's all been for nothing”, Mr. Godden said.
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Folkestone Herald 1 July 1993.
Local News.
Neighbours have been left devastated after a night club was allowed to
keep late hours despite their protests about noise, rowdiness and
vandalism.
Sixty people, many from the Bradfoord Court complex of 130 sheltered
homes, which is close to the Cartoon Club in Grace Hill, Folkestone,
signed a protest petition. But Shepway councillors renewed the indoor
public entertainments licence for a trial period of six months. This
allows the club to stay open until 2 a.m. on Friday and Saturday nights,
and midnight from Monday to Thursday.
Maud Clayson, 84, who lives directly opposite the club in the Stephen
Court section of Bradfoord said “May the Lord help us. If the noise gets
any worse we will have to move. A lot of elderly people go to bed at
9.30 p.m., and you end up hearing girls screaming outside”.
David Waters, manager of Shepway-council-owned Bradfoord, said “There is
noise, shouting and swearing in the early hours of the morning. There
has been vandalism in the form of broken windows and kicking at doors.
Nuisances disturb the elderly' sleep patterns and create fear and stress
in them”.
Another neighbour, Patricia Sales, of Foord Road, said “The sub-committee's
decision is very disappointing. All we can do is hope they lose the
forthcoming court case so the club cannot serve alcohol late”.
In February, the club's special hours certificate, which allows the
late-night sale of alcohol, was revoked, and this is now the subject of
an appeal to the Crown Court.
Police joined the neighbours' side, saying public disorder was caused by
people leaving the club. But council entertainments sub-committee
members felt that because there were several other night clubs nearby,
disturbance could not be blamed entirely on the Cartoon. Councillors
also heard that the Cartoon had now invested £14,000 into soundproofing,
and that a number of protesters had changed their minds. Some had signed
a 22 name petition to say the club was no longer causing problems.
Cartoon manager David Godden said after the decision “I am delighted.
Unless we can stay open late, business is rock bottom and we cannot
compete with other nightspots”.
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Folkestone Herald 19 August 1993.
Local News.
A controversial night club looks set to close after losing its appeal to
reverse a council decision banning it from serving late night drinks.
David Godden, manager of the Cartoon Club in Grace Hill, Folkestone,
failed to have his night club granted a special hours certificate. This
means he must keep pub hours and can't sell alcoholic drinks after 11
p.m. He said “I feel quite sickened about it because I've done nothing
wrong”. He took over the club in May last year and £16,000 has been
spent on extensive soundproofing to appease the neighbours. But he said
“I think the future of the club is zero, to be honest. I think I'm going
to be laid off”.
Elderly neighbours, many from sheltered homes, signed a petition
complaining about night-time noise.
Mr. Godden feels he tried hard to please them, consulting Shepway
Council at every step. And he claims police were called to the Cartoon
Club only four times while he operated late-night hours for a trial
period from May to October of last year. Two of those instances were not
related to his club.
Inspector David Kimber said “The police opposed granting the special
hours certificate for two reasons. Firstly, on visits to the club last
year we found food was not being provided and no-one was dancing.
Special hours certificate holders must encourage people to eat and
dance. Secondly, there had been a lot of concern expressed by local
residents”. He said of the Crown Court decision “I'm very pleased for
the people who live in Foord Road who have suffered the noise and
disturbance. But I'm more pleased for the very elderly people who live
in Bradfoord Court”.
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Folkestone Herald 17 February 1994.
Local News.
Police in Shepway will continue to take firm action against licensees
who refuse to abide by licensing rules. But they would prefer a
partnership approach to solve problems before they get worse, said
Superintendent Bill Wharf in his annual report to the Magistrates'
licensing committee. Mr. Wharf said Shepway had been free of major
disorder but there were incidents of large groups of drunks gathering at
or near late-night food take-away shops at around 2.15 a.m. after clubs
had closed. These groups, said Mr. Wharf, had grown to more than 100.
There had been fights, serious injuries and arrests.
In early summer, Mr. Wharf and other officers met with all the night
club operators. There was also a meeting between police and door staff.
“Many issues were discussed, and it was agreed we should work together
in partnership in making Shepway a trouble-free area to visit”, said Mr.
Wharf.
Some clubs had voluntarily improved video surveillance inside and
outside their premises. Night club operators can phone the police to
receive or report information about troublemakers in a “ring-round”
system.
Mr. Wharf said he is disappointed problems do still happen, usually on
Thursday, Friday or Saturday nights, keeping extra officers on duty to 3
a.m. He was encouraged by the positive attitude of night club operators
and their door staff, and would explore ways of reducing disorder, such
as early closure of take-away premises.
Mr. Wharf said there were two cases during the past year which gave a
clear signal to licensees that Shepway police would act firmly to revoke
licenses.
The Cartoon Club in Folkestone failed to comply with Special Hours
Certificate conditions requiring alcohol to be sold as ancilliary to
food and dancing. People leaving the club also caused disturbance to
residents in old people's sheltered accommodation. The case went to
appeal, but the certificate was revoked. “Local people have written to
me and thanked me for positive police action”, said Mr. Wharf.
Another club, Jams in Hythe, had its Public Entertainments Licence
cancelled after people leaving the premises caused persistent general
nuisance to local people, mainly in Stade Street. Shepway Council public
entertainment sub-committee and the Magistrates' Court decided the
licence should be revoked, said Mr. Wharf.
He expected licensees in rural areas to take greater responsibility
complying with licensing laws because of their remote location. But
there was evidence to the contrary. One licensee was convicted of
assault causing actual bodily harm on licensed premises. The police
decided he wasn't a fit and proper person to hold a licence, and he
resigned. There were two other rural cases where there was evidence of
after-hours drinking. One licensee received his final warning and the
other had his licence revoked, though an appeal is pending.
But he stressed the majority of licensees are very responsible.
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Folkestone Herald 10 March 1994.
Local News.
There has been confusion over the Foord Road South, Folkestone, building
once used by the Cartoon Club. Although the pub has closed down, a pub
called Tom Brown's has opened there instead. Landlord Tom Brown says he
wants to bring back traditional games like skittles and shove ha'penny.
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