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Is this a Kent Pub sign?

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From an email received 31 March 2014.

Dear Sir,

I found this wooden pub sign in a remote antique store in the Pacific Northwest of the US. The history of the sign is unknown by the shopkeeper. They anticipated that the sign might be from the 1950s. It is hand-painted on wood, and has been in the shop for perhaps 10+ years without any knowledge as to how they got this. I saw some information on a web site and perhaps someone can refer\direct me to a historian that might have some knowledge.

Regards,

Jim McNally.

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The above sign (left) has just (21 April 2018) turned up again on the internet, although it's not quite the same as the one on the right.

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Looks like another one has turned up, and again it's slightly different. This one was kindly sent to me from Sherry Scruggs.

Royal Dragoon sign

Seems there's no ending to these, the latest has turned up again.

This time from the TV programme "Antiques Road Trip" broadcast 8 October 2020. The road tripper bought it in Ireland somewhere, and it eventually sold for about £25.

Michael Mirams says the following:- Bearing in mind the other various versions of this sign you’ve been sent, I’m of the opinion that these aren’t ‘genuine’ inn signs at all, but were produced by someone dabbling in the nostalgia market – the lack of a brewer’s name on the signs are a giveaway. For the same reason, I’m sure there is no connection with Kent or its pubs, what do you think?

Well, unless the artist lives here I suppose. Paul Skelton.

They still keep coming. The latest being sent from, Per Jørgen Heimdal as shown below. he says he bought this off ebay for $600 many years ago.

Royal Dragoon sign

And another one comes to light. This time bought in an antiques shop In Connecticut, US, for about $175, in 2019. Vittoria Schults says:- "I also bought an "Iron Duke" sign. Here are photos of mine. They now hang in the Pub room at The DWIGHT D Hotel in Philadelphia PA.

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I am pretty sure that the Royal Dragoon sign never hung outside a pub but with so many of them appearing and all obviously hand made I am beginning to wonder whether they were part of an apprenticeship scheme for budding sign writers, and of course sold on afterward.

The "Iron Duke" sign, that one I would say is a genuine sign that used to hang outside a pub in the London area. The Fullers Griffin brewery, of course being located in Chiswick Lane, South London.

I expect the "Iron Duke" in question was possibly the one in Mayfair, and being outside of Kent isn’t one I am researching. It appears to still be open (2022) be nice to know if they have any old photos of it. https://www.irondukemayfair.co.uk

From an email received 31 July 2022.

Hi there was doing a little research on a pub sign I bought a few years ago at an antique auction and I found you have a whole page on it. Attached is a picture of mine, I paid about 50 bucks for it in Langley B.C Canada. Just wondering if it was a good deal or not?

Kenneth Lewis.

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