From an email received 31 March 2014.
Dear Sir,
I found this wooden pub sign in a remote antique store in the Pacific
Northwest of the US. The history of the sign is unknown by the
shopkeeper. They anticipated that the sign might be from the 1950s. It
is hand-painted on wood, and has been in the shop for perhaps 10+ years
without any knowledge as to how they got this. I saw some information on
a web site and perhaps someone can refer\direct me to a historian that
might have some knowledge.
Regards,
Jim McNally. |
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The above sign (left) has just (21 April 2018) turned up again on the
internet, although it's not quite the same as the one on the right.
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Looks like another one has turned up, and again it's slightly different.
This one was kindly sent to me from Sherry Scruggs. |
Seems there's no ending to these, the latest has turned up again.
This time from the TV programme "Antiques Road Trip" broadcast 8
October 2020. The road tripper bought it in Ireland somewhere, and it
eventually sold for about £25.
Michael Mirams says the following:- Bearing in mind the other various
versions of this sign you’ve been sent, I’m of the opinion that these
aren’t ‘genuine’ inn signs at all, but were produced by someone dabbling
in the nostalgia market – the lack of a brewer’s name on the signs are a
giveaway. For the same reason, I’m sure there is no connection with Kent
or its pubs, what do you think?
Well, unless the artist lives here I
suppose. Paul Skelton. |
They still keep coming. The latest being sent from, Per Jørgen
Heimdal as shown below. he says he bought this off ebay for $600 many
years ago.
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And another one comes to light. This time bought in an antiques shop In
Connecticut, US, for about $175, in 2019. Vittoria Schults says:- "I also bought an
"Iron Duke" sign. Here are
photos of mine. They now hang in the Pub room at The DWIGHT D Hotel in
Philadelphia PA.
I am pretty sure that the Royal Dragoon sign never hung outside a pub
but with so many of them appearing and all obviously hand made I am
beginning to wonder whether they were part of an apprenticeship scheme
for budding sign writers, and of course sold on afterward.
The "Iron Duke" sign, that one I would say is a genuine sign that used
to hang outside a pub in the London area. The Fullers Griffin brewery,
of course being located in Chiswick Lane, South London.
I expect the "Iron Duke" in question was possibly the one in Mayfair,
and being outside of Kent isn’t one I am researching. It appears to
still be open (2022) be nice to know if they have any old photos of it.
https://www.irondukemayfair.co.uk |
From an email received 31 July 2022. Hi there was doing a little
research on a pub sign I bought a few years ago at an antique auction
and I found you have a whole page on it. Attached is a picture of mine,
I paid about 50 bucks for it in Langley B.C Canada. Just wondering if it
was a good deal or not?
Kenneth Lewis.
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From an email received 22 October 2023. Hello,
In response to you invitation to submit versions of this pub signs,
here attached you will the one I bought this morning in south of France.
The seller is from a village named Rougiers and it had approximately for
40 years.
It seems painted but I an not proficient enough to be sure at 100%
Reminds of the signs produced by Corner Shop.
Regards,
Andrian Mihailov.
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From an email received 2 December 2023. I was trying to find some
information on this item and found this thread. I would be interested in
knowing the value of it, but understand if that isn’t possible since
their seems to be so few of these in existence.
I found this one tucked away in a storage closet in a Car dealership
in Texas along with about a hundred other vintage European items and
antiques.
Regards,
Jeffrey Brooks.
Jeffery goes on to say:- I have checked out your research and I believe
that I have actually managed to acquire the same piece that Sherry
Scruggs posted back in 2018. The damage on the top of the frame seems
to be exactly the same and so is the crack of the left side of the
painting. It looks as if it has gained a few new scuffs over the past
six years but I believe it's the exact same one as even the landscape in
the background is the exact same. |
From an email received 8 August 2024. Hey, i have another one here.
There are screws on the right and left but it seems its in a very good
condition.
Kind regards,
Tobias Reinhardt.
This is yet another in the same style but
different from the others. I usually tell by looking at the pattern and
counting the spots on the saddle cloth, although this one has a rock
bottom right as well, not shown on any of the others. |