DOVER KENT ARCHIVES
PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Barry Smith and Paul Skelton

Earliest 1839

(Name from)

Grove

Latest 1842

(Name to)

Laureston Place

Laureston Place

Above picture by Paul Skelton 20 August 2009, shows Laureston Place. The photo in the centre shows what I believe used to be the "Plough."

 

 

Closed for misconduct in 1842 but reopened again by Hoile that year. It traded from 1838 when it was referred to as the "Myrtle Grove," but I never saw it mentioned again after 1844.

I am going to make an educated guess here that the "Grove" became the "Dog and Gun," and was originally the "Almond Tree," reasons being that the name John Stone keep cropping up, although Robert Wood was mentioned as licensee in 1839-40. However, this house was definitely close to the house shown in the photo.

 

From the Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports General Advertiser, Saturday 7 November, 1838.

POLICE REPORT

The time of the Magistrates was principally occupied on Monday morning, in the examination of disorderlies, and parties who had obstructed the police on the previous Saturday night. A dancing-booth in the garden behind the "Myrtle Grove," in Laurestone Place, seemed to have been a source of attraction to those who had determined to see the week out, and thitherward an industrious youth, a collector of cinders from the furnaces of the steam-packets, was wending his way, at the watching hour, from the "Oak Tap," where he had commenced the evening and attained such a degree of excitement, as led him to a variety of obscene and disturbing exclamations, in his progress through Castle-street. He was in consequence locked up, although he declared he was not going to the "Mortal Grove," but having been two nights in the station, he was charged with an admonition, that another appearance under such circumstances, would be at the expense of five shillings, or an opportunity of composing himself for half a dozen hours in the stocks.

The second case was that of a lady who had indulged in the good things, and enjoyed the harmony of the "Grove," until she was neither able or willing to leave it; and when the landlord called in the Police to clear the house, she behaved so obstreperous, and used such unlady-like terms, as induced their providing her with cooler quarters until Monday. She was now discharged with similar intimation to that given to the preceding prisoner.

A third charge was against a young man, for positively obstructing the Police called to clear the house. This was at one o'clock on Sunday morning, when a scuffle ensued, in which one of the Officers lost his cape. The defendant said he had been in the house but a very short time, and that he told the Officers he would go as soon as they had cleared the adjoining room. It did not appear that any blows had been struck, and he was also excused.

The landlord of the "Grove" was then sent for, and directed to discontinue the booth, with other intimations relative to the future conduct of the premises.

 

From the Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports General Advertiser, Saturday 20 January, 1844. Price 5d.

Owen Cunningham, labourer, aged 29, was indicted for stealing, at St. James's, Dover, one pair of shoes, the property of John Stone, landlord of the "Grove" public-house, pleaded Not Guilty. On the evidence of the prosecutor and other witnesses, the charge was established against him; but in consideration of its being his first offence, he had the lenient sentence of two months' imprisonment passed upon him.

 

From the Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports General Advertiser, Saturday 20 January, 1844. Price 5d.

ROBBERY AT THE GROVE

Mrs. Diplock, wife of the man now in prison for stealing pheasants, was charged with stealing a tea caddy containing between 40 and 50 in gold and silver.

Mrs. Stone, the landlady, stated that the prisoner lived as servant at her house, and that her duty was to attend in the tap-room at the back of the house. The tea caddy was placed in the bar, which was safe on Sunday evening about 6 o'clock; but shortly after 8 o'clock she found it was gone. The ground of suspicion against Diplock was, that about 8 o'clock she was found absent from the tap-room without leave; that on her return she stated she had been to the "White Horse," and had some rum with a fisherman; but on making enquiries at that house it was denied by the landlord and his daughter that any rum had been served to the prisoner, or to any fisherman at the time stated. It further appeared there were 8 or 9 men in the parlour, and, it not being satisfactorily proved that they could not have gained admittance to the bar, during a temporary absence of Mrs. Stone, the bench decided that, however suspicious appearances might be, they must, in the absence of further proof against Diplock, discharge her from custody.

The Mayor observed to Mr. Stone that it was very careless to leave so much money exposed, he replied, "It was all my wife's fault; but it is fortunate that I, having had to pay a bill during the week, had for that purpose taken 20 out of the caddy, or that would have gone too."

 

 

 

LICENSEE LIST

WOOD Robert 1839-40 Pigot's Directory 1840

Last pub licensee had STONE John 1840-42 (age 35 in 1841Census)

HOILE Benjamin 1842

STONE John 1844+ Next pub licensee had

 

Pigot's Directory 1840From the Pigot's Directory 1840

 

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