Dover Road
Upper Walmer
Former "Hare and Hounds" 2011. |
From the East Kent Mercury, 11th January, 2007.
Above photo shows the "Hare and Hounds" 1908 in Walmer and below as it was
in 2007.
This pub had been a tied house within the estate of Hills & Sons'
Deal Brewery, which (following the death of Daniel Hills in 1900) was
sold at auction in 1901, with the overwhelming majority of Hills' 64
pubs being purchased by Thompson's Walmer Brewery. The above photo shows
the pub in its Thompson's livery, with a group of customers and
licensee, Wesley Leach standing outside. (Info from Rory Kehoe.)
Home keeps secrets of its former use.
A pink-painted house in Walmer hides its previous identity well and
few people probably realise the Dover Road property was once a pub.
This week's Now and Then pictures have been provided by Mercury
reader Francis Woodcock, whose old copy of a photograph shows the "Hare
and Hounds" near the shops in Upper Walmer.
Thompson and Sons, a brewery formerly in Dover Road, is emblazoned on
the side of the first floor, advertising its celebrated Walmer ales,
stout and porter."
It looks like there are four customers outside, with a young boy
leaning against the garden wall of an adjoining cottage.
The building has changed with the addition of a gable end, although
it is still possible to see the original door and window shapes. The
adjoining terrace still looks roughly the same.
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From 'The Deal, Walmer and Sandwich Mercury - Downs Reporter and Cinque
Ports Messenger, 31 January, 1920
A general meeting will be held at
the "Hare and Hounds," Upper Walmer, on the 3rd February, at 7.30 pm,
with a view to re-starting the Walmer Cricket Club. All interested in
cricket are asked to attend.
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From the Deal, Walmer and Sandwich Mercury, 7th February, 1920.
Walmer Cricket Club. – A general meeting of the above was held at the
headquarters, Hare and Hounds, Walmer, on Tuesday last, when upwards of
30 were present.
Mr. W. Ryder Richardson, J.P., presided, and there were
also present Messrs. B. D. Mantle (hon. treasurer), P. Flower,
L. Mercer, W. Curling, -- .Schon, R. Minter, H. Pickard, F. Wilkins, R.
Lawrence, A. S. Parker, W. F. Farrier, C. Moore, G. Kennett, J. Bing,
and Mr. W. Leach (hon. secretary).
Mr. B. D. Mantle read the financial
report, showing a balance of £7 6s. 6d., which included the sum of
£1 11s. 0d. as a donation from the Upper Walmer Special Constables'
Fund. It was emphasised that the Walmer Cricket Club, which has been
carried on for upwards of eleven years, has no connection with any other
club. Matches have not been played for four years on account of the war,
but it is to be hoped that the general support given to the Club before
the war will be extended in the future.
They had as their chairman one
whom they all knew, Mr. Ryder Richardson, who had been one of their
greatest supporters.
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Built just before the start of the 1800s about the same time that the
barracks for the Third Royal Hussars of the King's German Legion was
situated close by.
Earliest definite mention of the building serving beer was in 1841 when
the premises was termed a beer shop and the resident, a Henry Bushell was
termed in the census's as a "Brewer's Servant." Thompson's brewery being
situated opposite since 1816.
The pub finally closed after the Brewster session held on March 5th,
1936, with Thomson's being the owners. This being the very last public house
in the Borough owned by them.
It is now a private house, or at least three numbered 359, 361 and 363
Dover Road.
From the Dover Mercury, 28 April, 2011.
JENKINSON ESTATES £264,950
A truly wonderful Queen Ann style period property. Once known as the
"Hare and Hounds" public house. Throughout this deceptive family house
there is an abundance of period features. With three double bedrooms.
master en-suite facilities, four reception rooms. An extensive rear
garden made up of a sun patio which leads on from the lounge, a further
garden laid to lawn and garage. Well located for the local shops and
station. A very special family home which offers a glimpse of history
within its own walls. Truly this must be viewed to really appreciate the
size, charm and character on offer all with no complications of an
onward chain.
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From an email received, 25 January, 2017.
My parents, much older brother and sister moved into 361, Dover Road, Walmer in mid 1955 from a
house just a short distance away, also on the Dover Road. The move was
to a slightly bigger house with the benefit of a larger garden and an
allotment behind the house which was accessed from Belmont.
I was born in December 1955 at 361 in the top left hand bedroom,
adjacent to what was the "Hare and Hounds" in your photographs.
The old pub, 363 Dover Road, was occupied by a grand lady, Mrs
Murray, who was a fanatical scrabble player!
I was always told that in the earlier years 363 and 361 were all part
of the pub premises; an inter connecting wooden door with latch handle
and large bolts on both sides was located in the lounge of 363 and
dining room of 361. I believe the premises were at this point owned by
the Charrington brewery which was situated a short walk up Dover Road
just passed Hawksdown and at which my father had just been employed in
the hop rooms. It was through this job that he had secured the rental of
361.
It was always said that 361 had been, in part, the living quarters
for the landlord although directly below 361 there was a large cellar,
at least large to a small boy! that my father always told me would have
been the beer cellar. A wooden entrance door to the cellar was located
in the front garden of 361, to the right of the front door as you look
at it, and just inside the front door of the house, which directly
accessed the lounge, you would find a trap door to the cellar under a
mat that when opened gave you access via a wooden ladder.
In my years at the house, which we moved from in the late 60's I had
many adventures in that cellar.
Directly in front of the cellar flap in the small front garden a
large hole had been discovered some years earlier that was covered with
a metal pub sign. For safety reasons this was in-filled with concrete
and my mother told me that it was suspected as a smugglers tunnel to the
pubs quarters from the nearby beaches and that it took a massive amount
to fill it.
The house itself was small and comprised two bedrooms with a wide
connecting landing which doubled up as my sisters bedroom, her bed being
shielded from the walkway by a thin curtain.
Downstairs comprised two rooms at the front and a kitchen and
scullery at the rear which in the late 50's was modernised to provide a
bathroom off of the kitchen. This also replaced a toilet at the top of
the garden which in turn became the location for the shed. No more tin
baths before the open fire!
In the early 60's, my brother being in his late teens, woke my
parents one night in a terrible state saying he had just seen a woman
standing at the bottom of his bed. She was a young woman dressed in what
he described as a Dutch girls clothing.
Some weeks before this my parents had been concerned that we had a
trapped animal or something in the attic as they heard a number a
'clonks' in the early hours of the mornings on a regular basis. This was
mentioned by Dad at the brewery and contractors arrived to cut a small
loft hatch into the attic from the landing. They found nothing but a
realisation that the number of beams in the attic corresponded to the
number of 'clonks' my parents had been hearing.
A short while later my sister also saw this same apparition directly
below the hatch.
My mother told me this at a much later time in my life and said that
they had the loft hatch sealed completely thereafter and believed the
spirit of a girl had been released from the attic.
Whether wives tales, folklore or pure fantasy she had also been told
of a young girl bar worker who had been working at the pub and been
murdered in the pubs early years and during violent smuggling days. She
thought that might account for the clothing description given by my
brother also.
Although distinct premises in the 50's it was easy to see how this
house had been a part of the "Hare and Hounds." The rear access to the
garden was by way of an alley to the gate of the pub, now 363, from
Belmont, ours being directly placed to the left of it; the inner
connecting door and the fact that 363 for some reason I never understood
had two staircases in it, one directly alongside our connecting wall.
The barrel flap and cellar were also factors which made me have no
doubt.
I had some very enjoyable early years at 361; spent hours in the old
brewery with Dad and playing in the brewery field opposite the main
building which also comprised the offices and accommodation for a senior
manager and his family, Mr Elcock. I was a good friend of his son David.
Together we would create havoc in the field and vegetable gardens of the
brewery and surely be a constant pain to the resident gardener, Mr Les
Friend. This field became the home of Barns Close cricket club for many
years in the late 60's and 70's and a caravan park later in life I
believe. It backed on to a corn field behind Mayers Road.
Before leaving the house and probably in the early 1960's the sodium
light street lamp was erected outside my bedroom window and provided a
lovely glow each night at bedtime, turning from light yellow though all
colours to final deep orange before sleep struck!
In the early 1980s I was working in the area and found the owners of
the old house were renovating it. I knocked on the door and explained my
history and was kindly allowed to look around. The decor was very
different but nothing could change the shape and character of the house.
The wooden 'draft' door to the stairs from the lounge still in place! A
large inglenook fire place had been uncovered from behind a plaster
board wall that I was unaware was there and I was given a meat hook from
the grate of it that had once been embedded in the wall no doubt.
I loved my time in that house and indeed in the old Walmer of the
50's and 60's. A truly great era to have been brought up in.
Peter Townsend. |
LICENSEE LIST
BUSHELL Henry 1841-61 (age 45 in 1841)
BUSHELL William 1861+ (also bricklayer age 30 in 1861)
JORDAN William 1865+
BENTLEY Edward 1866-1874+
MOAT Susannah Mrs 1878-82+
LANGRIDGE Susannah 1881+ (age 42 in 1881)
SPEARS George Frost 1891-1906
KENWARD C 1907
LEACH Wesley "Nobby" 1908-22+
LEACH Mrs 1922
TURNER J F 1923-33
LEAVER Edmond 1930+ (?)
TURNER Thomas Frederick 1934+
TURNER Mrs Susan 1936
Pub closed March 1936.
https://pubwiki.co.uk/HareHounds.shtml
From the Post Office Directory 1874
From the Post Office Directory 1882
From the Post Office Directory 1891
From
the Kelly's Directory 1899
From the Kelly's Directory 1903
From the Post Office Directory 1913
Deal Library List 1914
From the Post Office Directory 1918
From the Post Office Directory 1922
From the Post Office Directory 1930
From
the Kelly's Directory 1934
The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers
Census
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