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103 Mongeham Road
(Great Mongeham)
(Sholden Bank)
Deal
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Above photo of the
Leather Bottle, extreme right of picture, date unknown, kindly supplied by Sue Solley.
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Again date unknown but believed to be 30s or 40s. Kindly supplied by
Paul Wells.
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Above kindly supplied by the "Leather Bottle" circa 1911. |
Above picture kindly supplied by Sue Solley, date unknown. |
Above postcard, date unknown, kindly supplied by Stuart Kinnon. |
Above photos by Paul Skelton, 25 July 2009. |
 Above photo by Paul Skelton 2007. |
Above photo by Paul Skelton 2007. |
 
Leather Bottle sign left October 1991, sign right July 1986
Above with thanks from Brian Curtis
www.innsignsociety.com
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From the Kentish Gazette, Wednesday 20 September, 1769.
To be Let.
The "Rose and Crown Alehouse," at West Langdon, and the "Leather Bottle
Alehouse" at Shoulden Bank.
Enquire of Mr. Stewart, Brewer, at Sandwich.
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Kentish Gazette, 30 September, 1806.
SHOLDEN BANK.
To be SOLD by AUCTION, By RICHARD HARMAN, Senior,
AT the Sign of the "Leathern Bottle," at Sholden Bank, near Deal, on
Thursday, the 2nd of October, 1806, at five o’clock in the evening.
A Freehold Messuage and Garden, with the appurtenances, in a
pleasant and healthy situation at Sholden Bank aforesaid, late in
the occupation of the Widow Bowles, and now untenanted; together
with two cottages adjoining; one in the occupation of Henry Files,
and the other in the occupation of Mary Cock.
For particulars apply at Mr. May’s Offices in Deal and Sandwich.
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From the Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports General
Advertiser, Saturday 7 April, 1838.
Miss M. CHANDLER, died 25 March at Sholden Bank, near Mongeham, of
the Leather Bottle public house. (I assume this
was the licensees daughter. Paul Skelton.)
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Kentish Gazette, 9 May 1854.
Sholden.
On Monday last, Mr. W. W. Eaden, deputy coroner, held an inquest at the
"Leather Bottle," on the body of an aged man, named John Marsh, who was
found the previous day drowned, or rather suffocated, in a dyke, in
which there were only two feet of water, about half a mile from his
house.
Evidence was given that he had been in a strange way some three or four
months; and a surgeon, who was called in, discovered no marks of
violence—he had known deceased many years to be extremely nervous, he
having had several attacks of low fever.
Verdict "that the deceased drowned himself, being at the time in a state
of temporary insanity." He was 71 years of age.
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Dover Express, Friday 8 November 1867.
Deal sudden death.
An instance of the great uncertainty of human life occurred at Sholden
Bank on Tuesday week in the sudden decease of a man
named Sweetlove, a vendor of gingerbread, who had arrived at this place
on the previous day in order to attend Mongeham Fair.
The poor fellow had taken up his temporary residence at the "Leather
Bottle" public house, and was taken suddenly ill on the
Monday night, and a message was accordingly dispatched to Walmer for
medical assistance. On the arrival of Dr. Davey it was
ascertained that the unfortunate man had ruptured a blood vessel and he
was particularly requested to remain in bed and keep
himself quiet. The man, however, would not do this, and between 7 and 8
o'clock went to the fair, but very shortly afterwards
commenced vomiting blood. With all possible speed he was conveyed back
to his lodgings, where, in a few hours afterwards, he
expired. It was not considered necessary to hold an inquest, the medical
gentleman having given a certificate as to the cause of
death. The remains of the deceased were interred on Thursday, and were
followed to their resting place by two of his relatives
from Folkestone, to which place he belonged.
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From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury,
16 October, 1869. 1d.
ACCIDENTS
On Saturday morning last an accident occurred near Mongeham. It
appears that Mrs. Bedwell, wife of Mr. Bedwell, market gardener,
Finglesham, was being driven along the road near the "Leather Bottle" by
her son, in a cart drawn by a very spirited pony. the animal suddenly
shied at some horses which were ploughing in an adjoining field, and
Mrs. Bedwell was thrown out into the road with much force, and sustained
a very severe shock to the system, but we are glad to hear that no bones
were broken. Mr. Solly, farmer, of Sholden, was passing at the time, and
assisted her to the "Leather Bottle," from whence she was after wards
conveyed home. She is still confined to her bed. The boy escaped unhurt.
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From the Deal, Walmer and Sandwich Telegraph, 25 April, 1874
FIRE AT MONGEHAM
Shortly After 10 pm on Thursday night a fire broke out at the
"Leather Bottle" at Mongeham, which terminated in the total destruction
of the ancient wayside inn. The fire could be distinctly seen at Deal –
the origin of the fire was supposed to be occasioned by some sparks
falling on to the old and dry thatched roof from the chimney of an
out-house in which a pig had been killed during the evening.
The fire engine from Messrs. Hills Brewery arrived at the scene, the
hose was quickly attached and connected with the pond opposite the
"Three Horse Shoes", and together with the valuable aid from the Marine
Barracks, the fire was subdued in about an hour, but not until the
entire building was destroyed, together with its contents, the latter
being the property of Mrs. Sutton, a widow, and we regret to add,
uninsured. The building was the property of Messrs. Hills and Son and
was partially insured in the Sun Fire Office.
(Information kindly supplied by Sue Solley)
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From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury,
17 April, 1875. 1d.
POOR RATE SUMMONS
Mrs. Sutton, landlady of the "Leather Bottle" public-house, Sholden,
appeared to answer a summons laid against her by the poor rate collector
of Sholden for refusing to pay the second instalment of the poor rate.
It appeared that the rate was made for six months on the 9th,
November, but as the defendant did not occupy the premises at that time
she was only charged from the 6th January.
The defendant said she was quite prepared to pay from January, but
she had understood that she was wanted to pay from the last November;
the matter had not been properly explained to her.
Ordered to pay the rate from January 6th, and the cost of the
summons.
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From the Deal, Walmer and Sandwich Telegraph, December 26, 1885
County Police Court
Mary Ann Sutton, landlady of the Leather Bottle Great Mongeham was
summoned for using threatening and abusive language towards Sarah
Culver, of Sholden.
Mrs. Culver said she lived at Sholden Bank. She was at work for Mrs.
Sutton on the 12 December, when she accused her of stealing a bottle of
brandy from the bar table. Complainant denied the charge, when defendant
used very abusive language towards her, shaking her fist in her face
etc. Defendant had been drinking that morning, and complainant thought
she was nearly mad. Mrs. Sutton was afterwards bound over to keep the
peace, having to pay the costs of 4/6d.
(Information kindly supplied by Sue Solley)
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An outlet for Charrington & Co. in 1974.
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From the East Kent Mercury, 29 January, 1998.
THE PUBLIC-SPIRITED PUB
Mongeham Primary School's swimming pool fund has been boosted, thanks
to the Leather Bottle pub. Alan and Joan Flynn, from the pub in Mongeham
Road, Mongeham, joined forces with customers and raised £500. Nicola
Lavell, a parent from Mongeham Primary, handed the cheque to Roger
Campling, a teacher at the school, at a presentation at the Leather
Bottle. The pub customers also raised £500 to pay for three-course
meals, free drinks and presents for pensioners at a Christmas party at
the pub.
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From the
https://www.kentlive.news By Lauren MacDougall, 21 December 2019.
The 33 pubs in Kent you have to drink at in 2020 according to CAMRA.
In total Kent has heaps of pubs listed in the guide and, while 33 of
these are new entries, others have appeared in previous editions of the
guide.
A total of 33 pubs from around Kent make up the new entries that feature
in the 2020 edition of the Good Beer Guide.
The guide is produced annually by the Campaign for Real Ale (CAMRA), the
independent guide to the best boozers in the UK that is researched by
unpaid and independent volunteers nationwide.
Tom Stainer, CAMRA’s chief executive, said: “For nearly five decades,
the Good Beer Guide has been a comprehensive guide to the UK’s
breweries, their ales, and the best outlets to find them in across the
country.
“What makes the Guide unique is that all the entries are compiled and
vetted by a huge volunteer team, based around the country. We work hard
to ensure that all areas of the country are covered and, unlike with
some competitor titles, inclusion in this book is dependent only on
merit, not on payment.
“The Good Beer Guide has always had an important role in acting as a
barometer of the beer and pub industry. We believe information gleaned
from the Guide is absolutely vital in the drive to save our pubs from
closure and campaign for policies that better support pubs, local
brewers and their customers.”
This pub is included in the 2020 list.
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From the Dover Mercury, 16 May, 2013. 80p.
GENERATIONS AT PUB A CENTURY APART
SORTING through old family photos started a project for Christine
Eyden, who has supplied the old photograph for this week's Now and Then
feature.
She came across the old black-and-white picture of a group of people
outside a pub and showed her grandfather and grandmother, with possibly
other family members.
After research by her son Phil Eyden the building was identified as the
Leather Bottle on the comer of St Richard's Road and Mongeham Road, near
her home at Sholden Bank, Great Mongeham.
Mrs Eyden said: “This seemed such a coincidence to me as my family and I
have lived just opposite this pub since 1978. The photo was taken in
1907.
Above photo kindly sent by Phil Eyden who says:- The picture was
taken about 1907 when Thompson and Son, the Walmer brewers, supplied the
pub with ales. The chap sitting down holding the baby is Edward
Haynes who was in the Royal Marines light Infantry at the time and
stationed at Deal. He was onboard HMS Lion at the Battle of Jutland in
1916 and survived the war, eventually becoming a lighthouse keeper in
the Romney area. Her grandmother on the left
The baby is my uncle Ambrose Haynes who was born in 1907, so that
confirms the date. He is being held by my great-grandfather, Edward
Haynes in the centre. Edward served in the Royal Marines Light Infantry
in WW1 and was one of the dozen survivors of the RMLI when his ship, the
battle-cruiser HMS Lion, was severely damaged at Jutland. To his left,
our right, is his wife Mabel. Edward and Mabel lived in Nelson Street so
that is a long old haul up from there with a baby in a push-chair! The
man in the bowler hat is probably William Jefford, the landlord.
“I know my grandparents lived
in Nelson Street at that time and it must have been a long walk to Great
Mongeham with that lovely old pram with the baby - my Uncle Ambrose -
being pushed all the way!
“Perhaps it was meant to be that we live in Sholden Bank.
“My grandfather Edward Haynes was in the Royal Marines Light Infantry at
the time.
“He served all over the world, the most notable service that I
know of was when he was serving in HMS Lion at the Battle of Jutland in
the First World War.
“He was one of the few survivors of the RMLI and was awarded, among the
usual medals, The Order of St George, a Russian one!
“My grandfather is seated in the centre of the old photo with the baby
on his knee and my grandmother Mabel Haynes is
seated on his left holding a parasol. It is strange how our past catches
up with us at times.” Dan Warwick is the landlord at the Leather Bottle
and its first recorded licensee was Mary Bass in 1807, although a public
house was on the site possibly as early as the 17th century, according
to The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer (with Kingsdown and Mongeham) by
Steve Glover and Michael Rogers.
In the 1860s the pub advertised “an excellent bowling green and good
stabling.”
Fire destroyed the property in 1893 and it was rebuilt, later being
owned by Charringtons brewers.
In 1987 Alan and Joan Flynn took the pub and stayed for 18 years,
raising thousands of pounds for good causes, including Deal Hospital and
the nearby primary school's swimming pool.
Christine Eyden, centre, with granddaughter Natalie Starr, three, on her
knee, with Mrs Eyden's grandson George Starr, five, her sister-in-law
Sandra Haynes, and her daughter Dr Alison Eyden. Back row are landlord
Dan Warwick, Mrs Eyden's son Phil, her husband Alan, her brother Keith
Haynes and her son-in-law Simon Starr Picture: Tony Fiashman FM2577967
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From the
https://www.kentlive.news By Lauren MacDougall, 21 December 2019.
The 33 pubs in Kent you have to drink at in 2020 according to CAMRA.
In total Kent has heaps of pubs listed in the guide and, while 33 of
these are new entries, others have appeared in previous editions of the
guide.
A total of 33 pubs from around Kent make up the new entries that feature
in the 2020 edition of the Good Beer Guide.
The guide is produced annually by the Campaign for Real Ale (CAMRA), the
independent guide to the best boozers in the UK that is researched by
unpaid and independent volunteers nationwide.
Tom Stainer, CAMRA’s chief executive, said: “For nearly five decades,
the Good Beer Guide has been a comprehensive guide to the UK’s
breweries, their ales, and the best outlets to find them in across the
country.
“What makes the Guide unique is that all the entries are compiled and
vetted by a huge volunteer team, based around the country. We work hard
to ensure that all areas of the country are covered and, unlike with
some competitor titles, inclusion in this book is dependent only on
merit, not on payment.
“The Good Beer Guide has always had an important role in acting as a
barometer of the beer and pub industry. We believe information gleaned
from the Guide is absolutely vital in the drive to save our pubs from
closure and campaign for policies that better support pubs, local
brewers and their customers.”
This pub is included in the 2020 list.
Leather Bottle, Great Mongeham.
What the guide says: "Recent renovations give the large bar room a
relaxed, smart, modern feel.
"It is a locals’ pub with no frills, but top ales and good company.
Large screen sports TVs and quality ale do not always agree, but they do
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LICENSEE LIST
BOWLES widow to 1806 dec'd
CHANDLER Thomas 1838-42 dec'd
CHANDLER Thomas 1842-47+
SUTTON Thomas 1871+
(age 57 in 1871)
SUTTON Mary Ann Mrs 1874-85+
(age 61 in 1881)
 
HALL Mrs Mary Ann 1899+
JEFFORD William 1901-13+ (also builder age 47 in 1901)  
JEFFORD John W (son of above and bricklayer) 1911-13+
GORE Mr H to Nov/1915
 (On
service in the North Sea)
BEARLEY/BEERLING Sidney Nov/1915-Jan/20
HOPPER Alfred G Jan/1920-34+
BATSON Ronald A 1974
Charrington & Co
GRAVENELL Paul 1981-87
FLYNN Alan & Joan 1987-2006
WARWICK Dan Oct/2006-19+
From
Bagshaw Directory 1847
From the Post Office Directory 1882
From
the Kelly's Directory 1899
From the Kelly's Directory 1903
From the Post Office Directory 1913
From
the Kelly's Directory 1934
Library archives 1974
From the Deal Walmer & Sandwich Mercury
Census
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