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Crabble Hill / Dodds Lane
(128 Buckland Street 1851) (89 Buckland Street 1861 )
Dover
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Dover Mercury 19 April 2000 Picture 8/ 7925E/00
MANY USES: Above:- The former Liberty Inn, with the "Three Cups" just visible beyond it.
Liberty Inn once stood on Crabble Hill
DID you know there used to be another pub between the Gate Inn and the
Three Cups on Crabble Hill?
This was the Liberty Inn and it was still possible to see the name
painted on the brickwork at the bottom of Dodds Lane.
The name is recorded in the census returns of 1861 and notes that it
is near the Crabble Toll Gate.
I remember it as Nicholls' shop but in 1900 it was Adams' bakery.
Some years ago there was a builder's opposite which was the old Toll
Gate House. We used this upper floor as our Rover Scout Den before the
Second World War, thanks to Mr Hobday.
Joe Harman. |
Barry Smith was unconvinced that this was ever a public house and didn't
see any evidence to suggest it. I haven't seen the census of 1861 either, so
at present I am only going on Joe Harman's article above.
However, I have found evidence of the premises being for sale in 1848.
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From the Kentish Gazette, 21 March 1848.
VALUABLE FREEHOLD ESTATES. TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION, By Mr. JAMES B TERSON.
AT the "Cherry Tree Inn," BUCKLAND, Dovor. on THURSDAY. the 30th day of
MARCH, 1848. at Two o’clock in the afternoon, unless before disposed of by Private Contract, the
following.
FREEHOLD ESTATES:—
Lot 1:— All those BUILDINGS and PREMISES, lately used as a BREWERY,
situate near the Buckland
Turnpike Gate, and containing an extensive frontage to the Road leading
to Old Park, as the same have
been recently stumped off from the adjoining premises, known as the
"Liberty" public house.
Lot 2:— All those Four MESSUAGES or TENEMENTS and Premises, situate in
BUCKLAND, at the back of the
last lot, and now in the respective occupation of John Wiles, Richard
Smith, David Toms, and John Mackay.
Lot 3:— All that MESSUAGE or TENEMENT and Premises, situate in BUCKLAND,
adjoining the premises of Mr.
Bengamin Fuller, saddler, and now in the occupation of Mr. Thomas Smith.
Lot 4:— All those Two MESSUAGES or TENEMENTS, Garden Ground, and
Premises, situate at EWELL, near
Dovor, and now in the respective occupations of John Ratcliff and Joseph
Hopper.
Lot 5:— All that MESSUAGE or TENEMENT and Premises, situate on the
Turnpike Road, in BUCKLAND, and
now in the occupation of Mr. Randall Curling.
Lot 6:— All that MESSUAGE or TENEMENT and Premises, adjoining the last
lot, and now in the occupation
of the Misses Mackie.
For further particulars apply to the Auctioneer, No 1, Victoria
Crescent, Dovor; or to Mr. Ledger, solicitor,
Dovor.
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Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports General Advertiser, Saturday 18 March 1848.
Valuable Freehold Estates.
To be sold by auction, by Mr. James, B. Terson, at the "Cherry Tree
Inn," Buckland, Dover, on Thursday the 30th day of March, 1848, at 2
o'clock in the afternoon, (unless before disposed of by Private
Contract), the following freehold Estates.
Lot 1. All those buildings and premises, lately used as a brewery
situate near the Buckland Turnpike Gate, and containing an extensive
frontage to the road leading to Old Park, as the same have been recently
stumped off from the adjoining Premises, known as the "Liberty" public
house.
Lot 2. All those four messuages or tenements and premises, situate in
Buckland, at the back of the last lot and now in the respectable
occupation of John Wiles, Richard Smith, David Toms and John Mackay.
Lot 3......
For further particulars apply to the Auctioneer, 1, Victoria Crescent,
Dover, or to Mr. Ledger, Solicitor, Dover.
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Further evidence, I believe has just been found by Peter Moynihan who points
out to me a passage he has found in the Kentish Gazette of 22 August 1850
which highlights the selling of the following lots:-
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Kentish Gazette, 6 August 1850.
COUNTY OF KENT.
IMPORTANT SALE OF VALUABLE FREEHOLD AND LEASEHOLD ESTATES,
SITUATE IN DOVOR, CHARLTON, BUCKLAND, RIVER, AND ST. MARGARET’S AT
CLIFFE.
MESSES. COLEMAN AND ELWIN Have received instructions to SELL BY
PUBLIC AUCTION,
AT the "Shakespeare Hotel," in DOVOR. on THURSDAY, August 22d, 1850,
at Twelve o’clock at noon precisely, the following very capital
PROPERTIES:— IN THE PARISH OF BUCKLAND.
Lot 16:- A desirable FREEHOLD BREWHOUSE, with Stable, Buildings,
Yard, and Premises, situate near Crabble Gate.
Lot 17.— A desirable FREEHOLD BEER-SHOP, known by the name of the
"Liberty," adjoining the last lot. |
Again, it seems the premises was for sale again in 1857.
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From the Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports General Advertiser, 9 May, 1857.
TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION, BY MR. GEORGE FOORD.
At the "Royal Oak Inn," Market Place, Dover.
On Saturday, 30th May, 1857, at 3 o'clock in the Afternoon.
(By Directors of the Devises in trust for Sale of the late Mrs. Mary
Langley.)
A Desirable Freehold Beer House and premises, called the "Liberty,"
situate in Buckland, near Dover, in the County of Kent, on the turnpike
road leading from Dover to Canterbury.
The House is well built, contains two cellars, good bar parlour,
taproom, kitchen, and five bedrooms, garden and back premises, with side
entrance.
The property is held on lease by Messrs. Baldwin, Godden, and Holmes,
at a clear yearly rent of £26.
For further particulars, apply to Mr. Norwood, Solicitor, Charing; or
to Mr. Johnson, 144, Snargate Street, Dover.
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From an email received 7 August 2014.
Hi,
My ggg grandfather John Dodd built a row of houses on Buckland Street
around 1808.
There is no mention of the Inn in the 1841 census but John's
occupation is given as mariner. He had been a pilot and possibly still
owned a boat. There is a Dodd. listed as the owner of a lugger, The
Cherry Tree, in the 1833 report from the Select Committee on Cinque Port
Pilots.
In the 1851 census his wife, Maria Dodd is living next door to the
Inn. Isaac Pearce is the licensee and Maria was the owner.
I have seen mentioned that she lived in Dodd House and was wondering
if this was the present "Three Cups Inn."
John Dodd's father was John Dodd, victualler (John Dodd and Maria
Hatch marriage certificate) and he was perhaps the licensee of the
Cherry Tree Inn.
Regards,
Eric Catterall.
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From the Dover Express, Friday 13 April 1906.
Just below the "Gate
Inn," on the north side, is Dodd's Lane, with Dodd's House at its
entrance. John Dodd was a brickmaker, and he built Dodd's House and
twelve cottages in Dodd's Lane about the year 1808. He also owned six
acres of land there. In June, 1841, when John Dodd was about 70 years of
age, on a Dover election day, and, amongst others, was a master mariner
named George Hudson, who made himself notorious about that time by
claiming a lot of property in Dover, and employing men to take the roof
off one house to assert his ownership. During the dinner, Mr. Dodd, who
seems to have been a very simple old man, offered to show the deeds of
his property to Mr. Hudson, who took them away to read, promising to
return them the next day. he never did return them, and at the Dover
Quarter Sessions, in July, 1842, George Hudson was indicted for
unlawfully retaining the deeds. Before the trial, John Dodd had died,
and his deposition, owing to supposed informality, was ruled by the
Recorder to be inadmissible as evidence, and he directed the jury that
they must return a verdict of "not guilty." The jury, however, retired,
and, in defiance of the Recorder, declared that they would do justice
irrespective of law, and found the prisoner guilty. The Recorder
respited the prisoner in custody till the next Sessions, and, meanwhile,
the Secretary of State being advised that John Dodd's evidence might be
accepted, Hudson was, at the next Sessions, sentenced to seven years
imprisonment, but he said he would suffer a thousand deaths before
he would give up the deeds. Mrs. Maria Dodd, the widow of John,
continued to occupy Dodd's house for several years after. In John Dodd's
time there was a brewery in Dodd's Lane, the buildings being still
there, and there was attached to it, a public house, now gone, called
"The Liberty." Before Dodd gave this lane its name, it was described as
the road leading to Old Park. It also leads to a road which is a
continuation of Barton Road, and was the original London Road before the
present London Road was formed by the Turnpike Commissioners. Off this
road, opposite the Paper Mills, are a considerable number of new houses,
on an estate recently laid out by Major Lawes, including Glenfield Road
and Pretoria Terrace, containing altogether about 120 houses. The road
to Old Park is a private occupation road, but there is a footpath in
that direction which is a near and pleasant walk to the top of Whitfield
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LICENSEE LIST
PEARCE Isaac 1851+
LANGLEY Mrs Mary to May 1857
MAYTORN John 1861+ (age 62 in 1861)
Census
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