13 (33) Commercial Quay
Strond Street
Dover
Above photo circa 1895. It is the building behind the cart on the
right and is in the process of being demolished. |
The above map, dated 1871, kindly sent by Glenn Hatfield, identifies the location
near the "Old Commercial Quay Inn." |
Address in 1840 was given as Strond Street. An early alehouse, holding a six day licence in 1847. The seven day cover
was effective from 1881 but a spirit licence was refused that year. Five
a.m. opening began here in 1879 and Winnifrith witnessed the closure in
1895. The licence was then surrendered so that the "Cricketer's Arms" might
open.
From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer,
30 September, 1865. Price 1d.
LICENSE OF THE LONDON PACKET INN
The only case of any interest concerned the transfer of the license
of the "London Packet Inn." This house had been kept by a man named
Stephen Stanley, who had lately died, and his widow now applied to the
Bench to have the license transferred to a person named Wilson. It
appeared, however, that prior to this application Thomas Stanley,
brother of the deceased, wished to take over the house and carry on the
business, preliminaries had been so far arranged that he had obtained
from the magistrates the promise of the license. In consequence of a
family feud, Thomas Stanley afterwards refused to give anything to the
widow for the goodwill of the house; and it further appeared that he had
not only abandoned all intention of carrying on the business, but the
landlord of the house, Mr. Norwood was unfavourable to his tenancy.
Stanley, however, was not disposed to give up the license, which, he
appeared to consider the Bench had granted to him. - Mr. Fox attended to
watch the case in the interest of Stanley, who was at sea, and argued
that the promise of the Bench amounted in point of law to the granting
of the license, although his client had not got the bit of paper which
was evidence of the fact; and he submitted that therefore no transfer
could take place without his client's consent. On the part of the
applicants for the transfer, a witness, Mr. Hadlow, painter, was called
upon to prove that Stanley had in conversation with him expressed his
intention not to take the house. - After a long argument the Court was
cleared for deliberation; and on the readmission of the public, Sir Luke
Smithett, who sat as chairman, said the Bench had come to the decision
that the first license was granted under a false impression and was
therefore void; and they therefore granted the license to Mr. George
Wilson, one of the present applicants.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer, 10 March, 1882. Price 1d.
J. TORR v. JENKINS
This was a case in which some glass had been broken by “larking” in a
public-house, (“London Packet”) and the evidence not being conclusive,
it was adjourned for further witnesses. The claim was for 7s. 6d. The
defendant said that no one could say how the glass was broken, but he
had offered to pat three shilling's towards it.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 9 May, 1884. 1d.
PUBLIC-HOUSE TRANSFER
Mr. Coleman applied for the license of the “London Packet” to J. H.
Osmond, who has kept the “Noah's Ark,” Peter Street, Deal, but as his
wife was still in charge of the house at Deal, the application was
allowed to stand over.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 30 August, 1889. Price 1d.
A PUBLIC HOUSE PROSECUTION
On Monday, at the Dover Police Court, before J. L. Bradley, Esq., Dr.
Astley, and J. Finnis, Esq., a case of keeping a public house open
during prohibited hours was dealt with.
H. Corsan was charged with keeping the “London Packet” public house, on
the 20th inst., open during prohibited hours, that is, at ten minutes to
one in the morning, and allowing a person not a bona fide traveller to
be on his premises.
John Marsh was charged with being on the premises of the “London Packet”
at ten minutes to one on the 10th inst.
Both defendants pleaded “Not Guilty.”
Mr. Vernon Knocker appeared for the prosecution and Mr. M. Mowll for the
defence.
Mr. Knocker having briefly opened the case.
Police-constable Scutt said: I was on duty in Commercial Quay last
Tuesday morning. At about ten minutes to one I saw three men cross the
road from the “London Packet” over the quay. They remained there. I was
about twenty yards away when I first saw them. I went on in the
direction of the house, and when I got nearly opposite it I saw the
landlord behind the door in the act of closing it. I put my hand on the
door to prevent him closing it. I then said to him, “What is the meaning
of this?” he asked “What?” and I called his attention to the three men,
I said, “I have just seen these three men cross from your house.” He
said he knew nothing of them and had never seen them before. The three
men then went away. There was a light in the bar, and the landlord
stepped back and put it out on my entering the bar. I then turned on my
light and saw the defendant Marsh leaning against the counter. He was on
the outside of the counter. I asked the landlord who he was, and he
said, “All right, Constable, he's a lodger,” and turning to March he
said, “Now Jack, you go up to bed.” I asked the landlord how long he had
slept there, and he said, “Last night; he belongs to the London tug,
Cambria.” I then told him I knew the man by sight as a Dover fisherman.
He said, “Oh! You must have made a mistake.” There were several empty
glasses on the counter which appeared to have contained beer. Marsh did
not go upstairs, but said he was going home, and went out of the door. I
told the landlord that I should report the case, and probably he would
hear more about it. I then went after Marsh and asked him his name and
address. He refused to give them and wanted me to take off my coat and
fight him. We proceeded as far as the Post Office where we met
Police-constable Bathy, and the man still refused to give his name. I
then went up Snargate Street with him, where we met Police-sergeant
Suters, who tried to persuade the man to give his address, but he still
refused. I then took him to the station, but at the bottom of Five Post
Lane he said his name was Marsh and he lived at 8, Albion Place. I then
let him go. He was under the influence of drink.
By Mr. Mowll: I saw these three men coming down the steps of the “London
Packet.”
By Mr. Vidler: I passed up several times before. There was a low light
burning all the time. There is a blind which prevented me seeing in.
Mr. Mowll said that Corsan and Marsh were two old friends, and on the
night in question they had had supper together. Marsh was leaving the
house as the Policeman came by. He called the two defendants and
Corsan's niece, who was at supper with them, to prove this.
The defendant Corsan was then sworn. He said: I have kept the “London
Packet” five years, and have never been before this Court. On Monday,
the 19th inst. I locked up my house at eleven. Mr. Marsh stayed till
after closing time. No one else stopped. Marsh stayed because I asked
him to have a little supper with me. I have known him well these 16
years. We went out in the evening together to see the fireworks. He has
had tea at my house on several occasions. My niece was at supper with
us. I had just gone to the door to let Marsh out when the Policeman came
by. The Constable did not come in the bar. I never left the door and
turned the light out. I had only lit it just before to let Marsh out.
By Mr. Knocker: Marsh had nothing to drink from eleven o'clock till he
left with the Constable. We went out to see the fireworks about nine and
came back at ten. We had supper at 11.10. We were talking over old
times. (Laughter). The Constable could not see on the counter from the
door, and he could not see any glasses on it because there were none.
The defendant Marsh was then sworn, and he corroborated the evidence of
the other defendant.
Caroline Corsan, the niece of H. Corsan, said she had supper with the
two defendants of Regatta night. Marsh did not pay for anything, and
there were no other men in the house.
Mr. Knocker: What time do you usually retire?
Witness: Between eleven and twelve.
Mr. Knocker: Why do you stop up later on this night?
The witness did not answer.
The Bench said they had no doubt about he Policeman's statement, and
fined Corsan £1 and 11s. 6d. costs, and Marsh 10s 6d. and costs.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 30 August, 1889. Price 1d.
DOVER BREWSTER SESSIONS
THE LONDON PACKET
The landlord of the “London Packet,” who had been fined that morning for
having his house open at prohibited hours, was cautioned by the Chairman
and the license renewed.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 13 November, 1891. Price 1d.
PUBLIC HOUSE CHANGE
Mr. Spain applied on behalf of Mr. George Sharp for permission to draw
at the “London Packet.”
The application stood over until the agreement was produced.
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LICENSEE LIST
WORRELL William (Strond Street)
SWAFFER William 1847-58+
NEWING John 1861+ (age 56 in 1861)
STANLEY Stephen 1863-65 dec'd
WILSON George 1865-Mar/73
ORAM Maurice J Mar/1873+
FIGIT L 1873
WICKS William 1874
WICKS Mrs E 1875 end
BULGER William 1875
BULGER Mrs Emily May/1875
SKITTER Robert Herbert May/1879
JEFFRIES Henry 1881+ (age 38 in 1881)
TORR James 1882+
CORSAN Henry Albert 1884-Nov/91 (age 50 in 1891)
SHARP George Nov/1891+
WINNIFRITH George 1894-95
From the Pigot's Directory 1840
From Bagshaw Directory 1847
From Melville's Directory 1858
From the Post Office Directory 1874
From the Post Office Directory 1882
From the Post Office Directory 1891
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1895
From the Dover Express
Census
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