From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury,
11 September, 1875. 1d.
THE ANNUAL LICENSING MEETING
The above meeting was held at the Guildhall on Thursday morning, when
the magistrates present were the Mayor, and Dr. F. T. Hulke, G. Hughes,
Esq., W. M. Cavell, Esq., T. W. Denne, Esq., and T. Roope, Esq. A large
number of publicans and grocers attended and had their licenses renewed.
The license of the "Phoenix" public-house was transferred from Joseph
Woodhams to Thomas Riley.
The license of the "Royal Exchange Hotel" was renewed in the name of
Miss Catherine Ann Neary, daughter of the late occupier, Mrs. Donnoghae,
deceased.
Mr. Marley made an application with reference to the license of the "Brickmaker's
Arms," of which house he is the owner. He stated the house had been
without a tenant for about three or four months and he was now
endeavouring to get a new tenant. The magistrates reserved their
decision till Thursday next.
APPLICATION FOR A NEW PUBLIC HOUSE IN KING STREET
This was an application by Mr. D. M. Hills, brewer, for authority to
build a new public-house in King Street, and the application was opposed
by Mr. Laundy.
Mr. Till, of the firm Minter and Till, of Folkestone, appeared to
support the application, and Mr. Edmund Thomas, barrister, appeared for
Mr. Laundy.
Mr. Till, in opening the case for his client, said he made
application for a special grant for a license under the 22nd section of
the Licensing Act of 1874. His client was desirous of closing his
public-house in Union Street, known as the "Fleur-de-Lis," and opening
premises in King Street. He intended to have two old houses pulled down
King Street, and a really first rate public-house substituted, and he
(Mr. Till) was in a position to show that the alteration would be a very
considerable improvement to the neighbourhood. He understood there
was an opposition to the application, the ground of which, he was
informed, was simply that there was no need of any further or other
public-house accommodation, that would be prejudicial to the
neighbourhood, and prejudicially effect the value of the premises
adjoining. In the first place, as to the granting of further
public-house licenses, how could they be increasing the number of
licenses when they were simply transferring it from one house to
another? It was hard to conceive how, by substituting a fine house, like
the one Mr. Hills intended to build, for two second-class houses could
be prejudicial to the neighbourhood. A memorial had been signed by a
large number of people in the town who were well-known, who were of
opinion that the proposed house would be an improvement to the town.
There was also a memorial on the other side, but he very much doubted if
the persons who signed it had a full knowledge of what kind of premises
was proposed to build.
Mr. Edward Wickens Fry, examined by Mr. Till, said: I am an architect
and surveyor practising in Deal and Dover, I produce plans relating to
Messrs. Hills proposed new premises in King Street. The annual value of
the house would be £30 per annum, I have made provisions in my plan for
three rooms for public use. Two very poor houses are to be removed, and
I am of opinion that the alteration will very much improve the
neighbourhood.
By Mr. Hughes: The whole area of the premises would be about 44 feet
frontage in King Street and 20 feet in Middle Street.
By Mr. Thomas: I know Mr. Bent's premises. The building I propose to
erect would not interfere with Mr. Bent's right of way. I am not able to
say whether there are 15 public-houses in the neighbourhood at the
present time. There would be three bedrooms.
Mr. Daniel Macintosh Hills was next called. He deposed that he was
the owner of No. 5 and 6 King Street. He considered that the alteration
he proposed to make would be an improvement to the neighbourhood. Mr.
Bent's right of passage would be reserved.
By Mr. Thomas: The "Fleur-di-Lis" in Union Street. There are two
other licensed houses in the immediate neighbourhood.
Mr. Thomas then addressed the magistrates in opposition to the
application. He contended that there was no necessity for this new
public-house in King Street, because the neighbourhood had a sufficient
supply. There were, he proved, as many as 15 public-houses within 200
yards of the spot where the applicant proposed to build a new one, and
he hoped the Bench would discard the idea that another one is required.
It was a lamentable state of things that there were public-houses at the
rate of one to every thirty inhabitants, and now the Bench were asked to
make an addition to that number (Mr. Till signified dissent), and really
do an injury to the present number of publicans. On behalf of the
inhabitants of Deal in general and the people residing in King Street in
particular, he denied that this was a judicious application. He had
reason to believe that in the petition handed in by the applicant's
solicitor it had been represented to those who had signed it that Mr.
Hills intended to open an hotel; but in the plan given in and explained
by the architect it appeared that there would only be three bedrooms.
Mr. Knatchbull-Hugessec, the respected Borough Member, had been said to
complain that there was not sufficient hotel accommodation in Deal, and
he (Mr. Thomas) quite agreed that if it were intended to build a new
hotel it might prove a great boon to the community; but how could a
house with only three bedrooms in it be called a hotel? It was really no
other than a pet-house, and this, it was said, would prove an
improvement to the neighbourhood. Mr. Bent had a very strong objection
to the application, because the proposed house would interfere with his
right of way. If the Bench granted the application he was quite sure
they would be instituting a case in the Court of Chancery. With regard
to the petition against the application, he assured them his client had
taken the opinion of people in the immediate neighbourhood who held an
influential position in the town.
On reference to the applicant's petition, the Magistrates' Clerk
discovered that the proposed new building was described as an hotel.
The Bench then retired, and after an absence of about ten minutes the
Mayor stated that the magistrates were unanimously of opinion that there
had not been sufficient reason brought before them to justify them in
granting the application.
From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury,
11 September, 1875. 1d.
THE ADJOURNED LICENSING MEETING
The "Brickmaker's Arms," Mr. George Marley, agent for Mr. Matthews,
applied for a renewal of the license of the "Brickmaker's Arms."
The Reve. Dr. Payne, Incumbent of S. George's Church, C. S. E.
Woolmer, Rector of St. Andrew's Church, and J. T. Bartram,
Congregational minister, attended the court to oppose the application.
It was contended that the house was generally recognised as being of a
disreputable character, and was a great annoyance to the people of the
neighbourhood. Dr. Payne stated that he had been witness to a great deal
of misery at that house, and it had been a source of much trouble to
him. He had been requested by many of the townspeople to make objection
to the application. Mr. Woolmer said he also had been requested to
object to the application, as it was known as a common harbour for
prostitutes.
Mr. Marley said he believed it was the usual mode of procedure when
applications were to be opposed to give notice of the intention to do
so. He must ask the Bench to adjourn the case, as he was not prepared
for it, and Messrs. Matthews would then have an opportunity of
consulting a solicitor.
The Magistrates, after a discussion, adjourned the case for a
fortnight.
THE FLEUR-DE-LIS
Mr. Morris Langley applied for the renewal of the license of the
"Fleur-de-Lis," Union Street, a house which has for a long time been
closed.
The magistrates deliberated for a short time, and the Mayor then
said: There is a very great objection on the part of the magistrates,
myself included, to grant a renewal of the license of this house. The
business of the house has gone gradually down, and been closed for some
time past, and the Bench are of opinion that there seems no probability
of the house being again required. We do not care to grant a renewal to
you, who are a mere nominal tenant, in the hope of a new tenant for the
premises being some day procured, and as we think the business has very
fairly died out of use we shall not grant your application.
Mr. Langley asked the Bench to adjourn the case, and on being refused
he gave notice of his intention to appeal against the decision.
THE HARE AND HOUNDS
The landlord of this public-house made an application for the renewal
of the premises to open premises an hour earlier than the time
specified, viz., at five o'clock.
The Bench inquired if there had been any irregularity take place at
the premises. It was stated that the house had been discovered open at
about a quarter to twelve one night, and several persons inside. In
consideration of the irregularity having taken the magistrates refused
to grant a renewal of the permission.
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