From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 15 June, 1900. Price 1d.
WHO SHALL FETCH THE BEER
A public meeting was held in the “Foresters' Hall,” Lower Walmer, on
Friday last, when special attention was given to the Children's Bill,
now before parliament.
In the absence of the Rev. Canon Venn, who was unexpectedly summoned
away, the chair was occupied by Mr. A. J. McIntosh.
The Rev. W. C. Atwell moved: “That this meeting hardly rejoices that the
Bill to stop the sale of intoxicants to children under sixteen years of
age, has passed the second reading stage, and earnestly trusts it may
become law during the present Session of Parliament.” Also, “That the
Chairman be authorised to sign on behalf of the meeting a petition to
Parliament in favour of the Bill.”
Mr. J. M. Skinner, in seconding the resolution, gave a most interesting
and instructive address on the Bill from its infancy.
The Chairman put the resolution to the meeting, which was carried with
acclamation.
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From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury, 28 July,
1900. 1d.
THE JUSTICES, THE BREWERS, AND THE PUBLIC
To the Editor of the Mercury.
Dear Sir,
The Licensing Sessions are approaching, and, in view of the
drunkenness and other evils arising out of liquor excesses, it should be
brought home to the Justices that much of this evil is caused because
they will persist in granting licenses in such numbers as are
universally admitted to be largely in excess of all reasonably
requirements.
Lord Watson, in the House of Lords' case Boulter v. Kent Justices,
said the Justices were "a body interposed between the licensee and the
public, for the protection of the public," and a Justice who may have
walked down the street and found thirty public-houses in it, said Lord
Watson, "I do not see why he should not come to the conviction, and act
on the conviction, that twenty public-houses were enough, and that
thirty two were too many.
Why do not the Justices act upon these lines thus laid down by the
Judges in the highest Court in the Empire? Sir William Houldsworth,
Bart, M.P. for Manchester, N.W., one of her Majesty's Royal
Commissioners on the Licensing Laws, gives an answer:-
"He thought they would find that in an immense number of instances
the Justices looked upon the licensing laws as if they had been framed
for the protection of the publicans, whereas they were framed for the
protection of the public.... It was evident that the trade in various
ways had got an influence over the benches of Justices who administered
the laws.... Although he would do justice to the publication, he did not
care a fig for their financial machinery. The moral and social condition
of the people ought to be the first and foremost consideration."
(Speech, Nov. 21st, 1899).
In some districts, the Justices have put the welfare of the people
first. In Liverpool, during the last ten years, amongst other reforms,
181 public-houses have been closed, whilst at Darwen, 34 off-licenses
were refused renewal at one Session. The Justices should this year
commence a reduction in the number of licenses towards the maximum of
what is "reasonable," as given in Lord Peel's report:- 1 on-license to
750 persons in towns, and 400 in country districts (p. 267). The
existing number of drink shops would then be reduced by one half.
Such a policy would do much to abate the present mass of social evil
which drink causes largely because of the lax administration of the law
by the Licensing Justices. Under the present bad system, drunkenness
amongst women is growing at an enormous rate, as the following figures
show:- Death rate of females per 1,000,000 living, from chronic
alcoholism and delirium, tremens (from Registrar General's Annual
Reports for England and Wales):-
1875 - 24
1894 - 47
1876 - 24
1895 - 51
1877 - 23
1896 - 52
1878 - 26
1897 - 59
1879 - 24
1898 - 59
Average 24.2
53.6
Yours very faithfully,
Charles Smith,
Secretary Kent County Temperance Federation,
Meanwood,
Maidstone, July 23rd, 1900
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From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury,
1 September, 1900. 1d
BREWSTER SESSIONS AT DEAL
The annual licensing meeting was held at Deal on Thursday, when the
whole of the licenses were renewed. prior to the commencement of the
business, Mr. Smith (of Maidstone) attended with several residents to
present a petition to the Bench praying them to reduce the existing
number of licenses in the Borough.
The memorialists approached the Bench "with a deep sense of the
onerous duties which, in the public interest, the legislature has
imposed upon them in Brewster Sessions," for upon them rested "the
responsibility for the continuance of the present universally admitted
excessive number of licensed temptations, and, inferentially, for the
many social evils which that excess inflicts upon society," reminded
them of Lord Watson's remark, in the case of Boulter v. Kent Justices,
that they were "a body interposed between the licensee and the public
for the protection of the public," and he did not see why, if they found
thirty public-houses in a street they should not come to the conviction,
and act upon the conviction, that twenty were enough and thirty too
many. They submitted "that the drunkenness and other evils having their
exciting cause in the excessive supply of intoxicating liquor which this
Borough has been afflicted during the year, and mainly from licenses
over which your worship have full discretionary powers, are a serious
reflection upon your administration of the licensing laws," and they
therefore prayed them not only to refuse new applications, but so to
reduce licenses as to bring them to the standard of Lord Peel's report -
a maximum of one on-licenses to 750 persons in towns, and 400 in the
country. The signatures of Revs. W. C. Attwell, J. L. Grice, N. Dobson,
C. R. Bower, and Messrs. W. C. Parkinson, J. Prior, F. W. Tenney, C. J.
Weston, G. S. Dunn, A. T. Skipper, W. W. Palmer, C. B. Wellden, J.
Peters, J. N. Mugford, A. S. Taylor, S. R. Jefferson, W. T. Hayward, S.
H. Eastes, W. Pittock, J. Pittock, E. Atkins, J. S. Huntley, M. Langley,
T. C. Baldwin, and T. Dimmer were attached.
The Mayor said they were pleased, of course, to see gentlemen take
such interest in this matter, for he thought their interests were very
similar to those of the Bench. Although they had, perhaps, rather an
excess of licensed houses in Deal, he thought in the amount of
drunkenness that had existed in the Borough during the year, they
compared very favourably with other places. They had a body of licensed
victuallers in Deal who endeavoured to the best of their ability to
carry on their business for the benefit of the public at large. Perhaps
the gentleman who had attended before them would not agree with that
remark, but at any rate they endeavoured to carry on their business in a
legal manner. It was very rare indeed that the police had to complain of
the way in which the houses were conducted, and the number of cases of
drunkenness compared favourably with last year, and he thought they
could say that the business generally was well carried on. He believed
it was quite the opinion of the Bench that if there were about half the
number of licensed houses in the town it would be a great deal better
for those who were left, and perhaps in some cases it might stop some of
the drunkenness. At the same time, when they had a body of men before
them who endeavoured to carry on their business in a satisfactory
manner, it would be a very difficult matter for the bench to pick out
one half and say "We refuse to license you any more." He knew the
opinion of the Bench was strongly against issuing any more licenses, and
they would be very glad indeed if half of the gentlemen present would
feel disposed to surrender their licenses. Further than that he had
nothing to say.
Ald. Cottew said he would like to offer a few remarks. he would first
say that those who had appeared before the Bench were not a temperance
party; they were a party of total abstainers, and they appeared before
the Bench in what he called false colours. he called himself a
temperance man. And what did they come there to ask the Bench to do?
Supposing they were to fall in with their ideas and refused a great
number of licenses. They had a lesson in that some five years ago, when
they refused to renew the license of a house that had been shut up
during the winter months, with the result that their decision was
appealed against, and the appeal was allowed, and it cost the town a
considerable sum of money. A pretty hole they would be in if they
followed the advice of these gentlemen. Another remark he would like to
make was that he thought gentlemen and ministers of the town were quite
out of place in coming before a Bench of Magistrates. [Mr. Ramell - one
of the Bench: No, no. Turning to Mr. Ramall - Ald. Cottew ejaculated:
You can say what you like presently, but that is my opinion.] They were
quite out of place coming before a Bench of Magistrates and asking them
tom put the law in force with reference to the number of licenses (oh,
oh, laughter, and here, here). What he considered to be the duty of
magistrates was simply this: to persuade men, and if they did wrong, to
try and persuade them to do better (here, here, and applause). He had
often pictured in his own mind what would have been the consequence if a
parcel of persons had appeared before a bench of Roman magistrates in
the days of the Apostles and asked for the law to be put in force to
prevent people obtaining a living (laughter). They would not have been
listened to, or if they had been they would have been laughed at and he
contended that they who styled themselves the temperance party were
taking a very strong course, because they were not a temperance party,
and they appeared before the magistrates in false colours (applause from
the licensed victuallers, laughter from the teetotallers, and Mr. Ramell:
No, no). They might laugh (hear, hear), but no one had taken more
interest in the temperance question than he had. he remembered its first
introduction. And as for saying they could prove total abstinence from
the Bible, he strongly denied it. How was it that many ministers and
eminent men who for many, many years had studied the Bible, and had
produced commentaries on it, had never said a word about total
abstinence? They had never heard a word about it until some sixty or
seventy years ago. No, it could not be a doctrine of the Bible. he
denied it most strictly, and could bring many reasons why he should take
that course. They appeared before the Bench: he did not know why, for
they had no standing (laughter and hear, hear). However, it was for the
magistrates present to think over what they had said (applause and
laughter) and decide accordingly. But the publicans of the town had
endeavoured to conduct their houses in a fair and legitimate
manner.
Mr. Smith asked to be allowed to say a few words, but the Mayor said
they had other business. the Magistrates had been there an hour and a
quarter, and they must have a little consideration for them.
Ald. Cottew: You have no standing here at all.
Mr. Smith: Excuse me. Everyone has a standing at a licensing meeting.
The Clerk: Subject to the discretion of the Magistrates.
Mr. Smith: Do I understand that you rule us out of order?
The Clerk: You have put in your memorial, and the magistrates have
heard you.
Supt. Chaney's report was as follows:-
"I have the honour to place before you my annual report of the
ale-houses and beer-houses within the Borough of Deal, and am pleased to
report that they have been generally well conducted during the past
year. The number and description of the licensed houses are as follows,
viz.: 73 ale-houses, 13 on-licensed beer-houses, and 6 grocers and other
licensed to sell spirits, wines, and beer.
The licenses of 13 ale-houses and 2 beer-houses have been transferred
during the year. During the year 40 persons have been proceeded against
for drunkenness and drunk and disorderly conduct; 21 were fined, and 18
were imprisoned without the option of a fine, and 1 discharged. Of the
number proceeded against, 16 were residents, and 24 non-residents, thus
showing an increase of 1 on the number proceeded against last year, and
a decrease of 4 on the number of residents proceeded against.
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From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury,
27 October, 1900.
DEAL MAGISTRATES AND LICENSING
To the Editor of the Deal Mercury.
Sir - I tender an apology to your readers, and to your
correspondence, for my long silence, but three weeks of the hurly-burly
of a general election put a stop to all else.
1. Your correspondent "Temperance" exclaims - "What injustice would
result, were magistrates to act on their powers to reduce the number of
public-houses!" But if the number is excessive, as your magistrates say
is the case, then the very thing the magistrates are there for is to
reduce them! To say they won't reduce them out of consideration for the
license holders is simply to say that the magistrates are unfit for
their positions, false to the public whose interests they are there to
protect, and corrupt in the sense that they sacrifice the public for the
sake of the publican.
2. Then, says "Temperance," three regattas have been held," with "not
a single charge of misconduct resulting." But if the police instructions
are, in defence to liquor influences, to arrest no one if it can
possibly be avoided, and to keep the charges of drunkenness down to the
lowest possible limit, then the absence of charges by no means implies
an absence of drunkenness. And the records of your police court look as
though liquor influences control your police force! For one example,
take the police evidence as given in your columns of Sept. 22nd - a case
of drunk and disorderly, and assaulting the police:- "P.C. Handford
found the prisoner lying in the water-table by the side of the main
road, drunk.... assisted him up, prisoner said he would go away. Went
about ten yards, when he laid down again. Assisted him up again, and
advised him to go away..... he went down the road, but commenced
holloaing and shouting, and using very filthy language. Again advised
him to go away, he refused, and as he continued to use very bad
language, witness took him into custody." That constable, no doubt under
instructions from his superiors, and certainly with the tacit
approval of your magistrates, practically repeals the laws relating to
public drunkenness, and does all he can to enable offenders to escape.
He is not the only constable in Deal who does this, and such a
scandalous state of things is a disgrace to the authorities responsible,
and to the Deal people who maintain such authorities. It is under
conditions like these that I am asked to congratulate Deal on its
sobriety, as measured by police charges! Suppose the case had been one
of the following kind:- "P.C. Hammond found the prisoner with skeleton
keys and jemmy, attempting to get into - High Street, prisoner said he
would go away..... went about ten yards, and witness found him
attempting to get into - High Street.... again advised him to go
away...... he went down the road declaring he would have his load of
swag that night..... Again advised him to go away, he refused, and as he
continued to declare his intentions of making a haul, witness took him
into custody."
How ling would a constable who acted thus have the approval of his
superiors, or of the magistrates? Would he not be cleared out of the
force, and medical men consulted as to his sanity? And if such conduct
on the part of the police would not be tolerated in housebreaking cases,
why is it the established order of things in drunken cases? Is property
more sacred than morals? The Deal police authorities and magistrates
tolerate an administration of the law as regards drunkenness, as they
would not dream of tolerating as regards burglary. This may answer the
purpose of saving the liquor traffickers from reproach, but it certainly
lays your authorities open to the charge of corrupt administration.
Yours very faithfully,
Charles Smith,
Secretary Kent County Temperance Federation.
Meanwood, Maidstone,
Oct. 15th. 1900
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