Richmond Road (Elms Road 1881) (4 Grove Road 1901)

Ramsgate

https://whatpub.com/elms

Above photo, 1908.

Above photo taken with permission from Saunders family web.

There appear to be a couple of different address for this one, which would suggest that the business may have moved at one time, however, Richmond Road, Grove Road and Cannon Road are all a stones throw apart.

The "Elms" was originally part of the estate of the Tomson family, town brewers, in the 1830s. For many years Elms Park was a resort of the townsfolk, who were allowed to play cricket and other sports there, but the park was sold for development in the 1860s and only the pub and Elms Avenue are left.

I have been informed that this is now a nursery (2015)

The Cannon Brewery owned the following 11 freehold pubs and in the 1879 inventory, the following details were recorded.

"Castle," St. Lawrence.

"New Inn," Birchington.

"Albion," St. Peter's. Stapleton Thomas Wood @ £15.0.0 pa

"Red Lion," St. Peter's.

"Black Horse," Ramsgate. James Bugden @ £17.0.0 pa

"Royal Harbour," Ramsgate. ?? @ £35.0.0 pa

"Woodman," Ramsgate. Joseph Goldsmith @ £35.0.0 pa. Built by RS Cramp.

"Seven Stars," Ramsgate. William Tucker @ £21.0.0 pa.

"Railway," Ramsgate.

"Hope & Anchor," Ramsgate. G E Hawkes @ £26.0.0 pa.

"Cannon," St. Lawrence. Stephen Wellard @ £18.0.0 pa plus Garden @ £8.0.0 pa to W Wellard.

And in Ramsgate, the Cannon Brewery also leased the following two properties...

"Elms Hotel" (and adjacent shop) from 6th January 1874 @ £80.0.0 pa.

"Coach & Horses," from 1st March 1855 @ 28.0.0pa. Let to Sarah Luff @ £30.0.0 pa

LICENSEE LIST

SMITHERS Thomas 1881+ (age 43 in 1881)

SPRINKS Edwin Arthur to Apr/1888 (Cannon Road)

CHILES John William A 1890-91+ (Cannon Road)

BUSH Harry G 1901-03- (4 Grove Road)

LEWIS Charles Sinclair 1911-29/Jan/23 dec'd

MAYS Leslie W 1930+

BATES William James Elliott to Dec/1934

BALCOMBE William Edward Frank 1938+

https://pubwiki.co.uk/ElmsHotel.shtml

http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/elms.html

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