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Sort file:- Deal, September, 2021.

Page Updated:- Wednesday, 29 September, 2021.

PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1808

Rose and Crown

Latest July 1982

(Name to)

79 Beach Street

Deal

(122 Beach Street in 1874 & 82 Post Office Directory 1874Post Office Directory 1882)

Rose and Crown in Deal 2008

 

Later to become the "Admiral Penn".

 

The Deal History Society give the earliest date of this pub to be 1860. However, licensees Anthony Smith ("Admiral Penn") say the premises was licensed as far back as 1818, although do not poses the documentation to sustain this statement.

The building is actually older, being listed in 1808, but only described as a dwelling house and shop. The occupant being Jonathan Read, Tailor and Draper.

1847 shows the first definite connection with beer when Valentine Hoile, Sandwich brewer leased the building.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 4 August, 1871. Price 1d.

AT THE PUBLIC ROOMS PARK STREET, DEAL.

On Thursday, the 10th August, 1871.

At three for four o'clock in the afternoon, in Three Lots.

Lot 1. All that Eligible Freehold Dwelling House, at the South-end of, and being No. 89, Beach Street, Deal, with extensive Sea Views, and now in the occupation of Mrs. Marsh, and also the Cottage in the rear, with right of way into Middle Street, occupied by Mr. Pittock.

Lot 2. A Freehold Messuage and Shop, No. 119, Beach Street, Deal, with the Yard and Ground thereunto belonging, and a passage into Beach Street, now in the occupation of Mr. Richard Fox.

Lot 3. All the Tenement or Dwelling House, No. 121, Beach Street, Deal, in the occupation of Mr. Middleton, with Backway, and adjoining the “Rose and Crown Inn.”

For further Particulars apply to Messrs. Cramp and Sons, Cannon Brewery, Ransgate; to the Auctioneers, Sandwich; or to Messrs. Mercer & Edwards.

 

From 'The Deal, Walmer and Sandwich Mercury - Downs Reporter and Cinque Ports Messenger, 28 February, 1920

FOR SALE Galley Punt Hull, 26 ft long; also size 7 centrifugal pump. - Apply, F. Roberts, Rose & Crown, Deal

 

 

Originally owned and supplied by Hoile brewers of Sandwich.

Flint brewery supplied from 1887 to 1914+ Deal library 1914

An outlet for Fremlins in from 1930 to 1974+. Library archives 1974

Then Whitbread Fremlin's.

 

Old landlord list plaque

Above sign kindly sent by Art Ouwersloot, former landlord "Admiral Penn."

 

LICENSEE LIST

READ Jonathan (Tailor & draper, dwelling house & shop) 1808-38 The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

HOILE Valentine 1847-51+ (Sandwich brewer) The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

REDMAN James Munday 1854-74 (Melville's 1858and general dealer age 44 in 1861Census) Kelly's 1862Kelly's 1874Post Office Directory 1874 alehouse

REDMAN Charles 1874-82+ Post Office Directory 1882

ROBERTS Frederick 1887-10 dec'd Post Office Directory 1891Kelly's 1899Kelly's 1903Pikes 1908Post Office Directory 1913

ROBERTS Frederick Henry Alick (nickname Flint) 1910-57+ Deal library 1914Post Office Directory 1922Kelly's 1934Post Office Directory 1938

STEDMAN  Joseph 14/Nov/1957-29/Oct/59

JONES William A 29/Oct/1959-13/July/61

BRUCE Harry A E 13/July1961-23/May/77 Library archives 1974 Fremlins

SPEED Brian 23/May/1977-15/Sept/88 Next pub licensee had

https://pubwiki.co.uk/RoseCrown.shtml

 

Name changed to "Admiral Penn" on 1st July 1982.

 

Melville's 1858From Melville's Directory 1858

Kelly's 1862From the Kelly's Directory 1862

Post Office Directory 1874From the Post Office Directory 1874

Kelly's 1874From the Kelly's Directory 1874

Post Office Directory 1882From the Post Office Directory 1882

Post Office Directory 1891From the Post Office Directory 1891

Kelly's 1899From the Kelly's Directory 1899

Kelly's 1903From the Kelly's Directory 1903

Pikes 1908From Pikes 1908

Post Office Directory 1913From the Post Office Directory 1913

Deal library 1914Deal Library List 1914

Post Office Directory 1922From the Post Office Directory 1922

Kelly's 1934From the Kelly's Directory 1934

Post Office Directory 1938From the Post Office Directory 1938

Library archives 1974Library archives 1974

The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and RogersThe Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

 

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