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PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1865

Royal Arms

Latest 1965+

(Name to)

23 Canada Road

Lower Walmer

Deal

Royal Arms sign

I am not totally certain whether this sign is from this pub as I don't know yet whether the pub ever sold Rigden's Ales. I always assumed it was a Tomson and Wotton tied house.

 

Built around the 1865, changed its name to the "Green Beret" to honour the Royal Marines whose barracks were next door, around 1965.

 

Thanet Advertiser, Saturday 8 September 1866.

Sandwich. Annual Licensing Sessions.

The Royal Arms, Walmer.

Mr. T. T. Delasaux (of Canterbury) applied for a licence for the above house, on the part of Mr. Richard Hobbs, the landlord; but explained that it was intended, with the consent of the Bench, to transfer it to Mr. John Young, an army pensioner, in whose behalf several memorials and testimonials (from officers under whom he had served, and others) were put in, testifying to his good character and respectability.

There being no opposition, the licence was granted.

 

From the Deal, Walmer and Sandwich Mercury, 4 January, 1879.

Mr. George Johnson, landlord of the "Royal Arms," Walmer, applied to the Cinque Ports Magistrates sitting in petty session on Monday last, for permission to keep his house open until midnight on the 1st of January. - In reply to the Chairman, L.C. Mercer said there was nothing against the house; and the magistrates granted the application.

 

From an email received 10 Sept 2010.

Re the Royal Arms Licensees.  My late Grandmother, Alice Upton was the licensee for many years after the 2nd World war.  We used to spend all of our summer school holidays there.  My last visit was possibly in 1952, when I was 10 years of age.  My Aunt and Uncle - Reita and Leslie Upton took over when Grandma became too old to run it. I am not sure of the exact dates, but I can find out.  Auntie Reita sadly passed away a few weeks ago, but my cousin, her daughter, will probably know.

Madeline Bates.

 

From an email received 18 March 2010.

I am researching a friend's family tree and unearthed that his ancestor kept the "Royal Arms" at Walmer at the time of the 1911 census.

I thought you might be interested to know that Thomas Henderson Bell was an ex-military, a regular soldier with the Durham Light Infantry.

By 1911 he had left the army and was the publican at the Royal Arms, living there with his wife Annie and four children: Herbert Henderson Bell (b1896) who assisted him in the pub, but later went on to join the Royal East Kent Regiment (the Buffs) and served in the First World War and beyond; Archibald George Henderson Bell (b1900), Gladys Deborah Bell (b1905) and Nellie Jessica Bell (b1909).

Boarding at the inn was also an actor, Victor Charles Colman, aged 38.

Kind regards,

Sue Andrews,

Beeston, Nottingham.

 

From an email received 28 July 2014.

Hello,

I believe my cousin, Madeline Bates wrote to you about The "Royal Arms," 23 Canada Road, Walmer in September 2010 to give you information for your website on public houses.

I am now in a position to offer you these corrections.

To the best of my knowledge in 1939 Osbert and Alice Upton, my Granddad and Gran, came to Deal with their son, my Father, Leslie and took over the "Royal Arms" from Tom Taylor. Granddad and Gran were the licensees of the "Royal Arms" until Granddad's death in 1944 and then Gran ran it until my Dad took over when he returned from WW2 active service in 1946. He married Reita Redman from 16 Canada Road in January 1947 and they remained the licensees until June 1955.

As far as I know he had no involvement in the pub in 1956 as shown on your website. I have a copy of a document that shows that a Mr TGK Allen applied to the Council on 28 June 1954 for a transfer of the licence to him; the sessions were due to be heard at the Town Hall on 2 September 1954 and I believe the transfer went ahead.

I hope this information will be of use to you and will enable you to update the website. If you have any questions that I may be able to help with, please send an email to the above address.

Pat Upton

 

LICENSEE LIST

HOBBS Richard Oct/1865-Sept/66 Thanet Advertiser

YOUNG John Sept/1866 Thanet Advertiser

BEDDINGFIELD Albert to Jan/1871 Deal Mercury (beerhouse)

FOULKES William John Jan/1871-Jan/72 (age 44 in 1871Census) Deal MercuryThe Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

WHIDDETT George Jan/1872+ Deal Mercury

JORDAN John 1873+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

MERCER Joseph 1874+ Post Office Directory 1874

JOHNSON George 1878+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

DILLON Cornelius 1881-82+ (age 52 in 1881Census) The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and RogersPost Office Directory 1882 (8 Canada Road)

DILLON James 1889-91 Kelly's 1899

DILLON Rebecca Emily (widow) 1891-03 (age 55 in 1891Census) Kelly's 1903The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers (1 Canada Road)

PHILLIPS W H D 1904 The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

BELL Thomas 1904-12+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers (1910 23 Canada Road)

EVANS William 1913-14+ Post Office Directory 1913Deal library 1914

LEGGETT Henry 1915+

HARRIS John Henry 1918-21+ Post Office Directory 1918

HARRIS John G 1926-31+ Post Office Directory 1922Post Office Directory 1930

TAYLOR Thomas 1934-39 Kelly's 1934Post Office Directory 1938

UPTON Osbert 1939-44 dec'd

UPTON Alice S 1944-46

UPTON Leslie & Reita 1946-Sept/54

ALLEN T G K Sept/1954+

DAVISON William Next pub licensee had Nov/1958-75

Changed name to "Green Beret" circa 1965

https://pubwiki.co.uk/RoyalArms.shtml

 

Post Office Directory 1874From the Post Office Directory 1874

Post Office Directory 1882From the Post Office Directory 1882

Kelly's 1899From the Kelly's Directory 1899

Kelly's 1903From the Kelly's Directory 1903

Post Office Directory 1913From the Post Office Directory 1913

Deal library 1914Deal Library List 1914

Post Office Directory 1918From the Post Office Directory 1918

Post Office Directory 1922From the Post Office Directory 1922

Post Office Directory 1930From the Post Office Directory 1930

Kelly's 1934From the Kelly's Directory 1934

Post Office Directory 1938From the Post Office Directory 1938

The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and RogersThe Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

Deal MercuryFrom the Deal Walmer & Sandwich Mercury

Thanet AdvertiserThanet Advertiser

 

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