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Near Carter House, South Street
1 (80) Beach Street
Deal
Above photos kindly sent by Patricia Streater, 9th February 2010. Showing
South Foreland House as it is today at number 1 Beach Street.
The picture on the left shows the entrance to the house being on the
left of the picture and the address plaque stating:- "South Foreland
House 1 Beach Street." This one is actually facing South Street,
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This is another one mentioned by the Deal History Society, and they say
that the pub was in the vicinity of Carter House. I have now identified it
as being 1 Beach Street.
Elizabeth Carter being famous as the English poet and translator
(1717-1806).
The only information about the pub given is that it was operating between
1854 and 1868. However, according to
www.deadpubs.co.uk
it is listed as being in Beach Street in 1858.
Steve Glover and Michael Rogers in their book "The Old Pubs of Deal and
Walmer" state that Richard Redmond ran an unnamed beerhouse around the 1830s
until at least 1852.
1857 the premises were not licensed as an alehouse but obviously
continued selling beer as a beerhouse as shown below.
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From the catalogue of the Lambeth Palace Library:
Lease: John May, of Deal, Kent, banker; James Shipdem of Deal, Kent,
banker; James Wyborn, of Deal, Kent, banker.
TA 510/1,2 1812 (no. 455) Beach Street, the "South Foreland" Public House.
Lease to John May, of Deal, Kent, banker; John Mercer, of Deal, Kent,
banker; James Shipdem of Deal, Kent, banker; James Wyborn, of Deal,
Kent, banker.
TA 510/3,4 1823 (no. 455) Beach Street, the "South Foreland" Public House.
They were partners in the Deal Bank and were declared bankrupt on 24
December 1825. James Wyborn was the father-in-law of John May. This
would have been an investment and they would have sub-let to someone
else to run the pub.
The numbers in the catalogue entry are not the house number.
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From the Kentish Chronicle, 17 November, 1860.
STEALING FROM THE PERSON.
At the Deal Petty Sessions on Saturday Mary Ann Nelson was charged, by
John Pearcey, with stealing money from his pocket.
John Pearcy said:- I am a private in the 2nd Queen’s. Yesterday evening I
met Mary Ann Nelson, in Lower-street, a little after six o'clock, and
accompanied her to Mrs. Baker's, at the "South Foreland" beer-house. We
had four half-pints of gin during our stay there. I changed a sovereign
to pay for what I had. There were two or three others who partook of it
besides ourselves. I should suppose I drank half of it. When I arose to
leave the house, whilst in the passage, I had put the change in the
pocket inside my jacket, it being unbuttoned at the time. I did not feel
her take the money, but she left suddenly and said she would return in a
few minutes. During her absence, Mrs. Baker, the landlady, told me she
had got my money. I then put my hand to my pocket and found it gone. It
consisted of half a sovereign in gold, three shillings and sixpence in
silver. I then told Mrs. Baker that I should give information to the
police, which I did, and accompanied the inspector, Parker, back to the
"South Foreland," and then found that Nelson had returned. I charged her
with the robbery, which she denied, this was about eight o'clock.
Prosecutor's evidence was not substantiated, and the case was therefore
dismissed.
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From the Deal, Walmer & District and Kingsdown
Telegram, 12 December, 1860.
Petty Sessions
Mrs. Baker, "South Foreland" beerhouse in Beach Street, Deal, charged
with selling spirits while only licensed to sell beer. Fined £12 11s.
0d. and £1 17s. 6d. costs and licence to sell beer null and void.
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South Eastern Gazette, 18 December, 1860.
Selling Spirits Without A Licence.
At the Petty Sessions on Thursday, Anne Baker, charged at the
sitting in the previous week with selling spirituous liquors without
a licence, was ordered to pay the mitigated penalty of £12 10s., and
£1 17s. 6d. costs, in a week, otherwise a distress to be levied, and
in deficiency thereof to be imprisoned six weeks. The beer and cyder
licenses to be forfeited.
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From the Deal, Walmer & District and Kingsdown
Telegram, 16 March, 1861.
Report of theft of shawl from E A Baker of "South Foreland" Public
House (beer shop.)
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The property was sold in March 1861.
Last report from 1869, the premises were not licensed and this is the
last I know of this one.
It is said that at one time during its history, the house also
operated as a brothel, where a booth on the ground floor was used where
clients would pay the "madam" before ascending up to the bedrooms above.
Inside was a two-way mirror where others could watch without been seen
themselves, and possibly "madam" used to partake herself.
Now the house is a respectable abode, and privately owned, but it has
been said that the ghost of the "madam" is still performing as overnight
male guests have claimed they have been rudely awakened from their sleep my
he presence.
LICENSEE LIST
???? 1812+
REDMOND Richard 1830s-52+
SPEARS H W 1854-55
Unlicensed 1856+
KNIGHT James 1858+
BAKER Ann M Mrs 1860
AUSTIN Edward Mar/1861-69
https://pubwiki.co.uk/SouthForelandInn.shtml
http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/southforeland.html
From Melville's Directory 1858
Deal Licensing Register
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