180 Beach Street

195 Beach Street

Deal

Above photo, 2009, kindly sent by Steve Glover and Michael Rogers.

In 1903 the pub was owned by the East Kent Brewery, Sandwich.

It certainly no longer looks inviting as a public house and to date I do not know when it ceased to trade. Obviously after 1922.

The earliest date I have is 1840 but the Deal History Society date it even further back to 1828.

http://home.freeuk.net/eastkent/deal/pubs.htm

From the Kentish Weekly Post or Canterbury Journal, 9 December 1803. WHEREAS MARIA SOPER, wife of VALENTINE SOPER, at the "Yarmouth Packet," Deal, has eloped from her husband, this is to give NOTICE that he will not be accountable for any debts she may contract. Deal, Dec. 8, 1803.

Kentish Gazette, 29 October 1850. DEATH. Ralph:- Oct 23, at Deal, Elizabeth, relict of the late Benjamin Ralph, formerly of the "Yarmouth Packet Inn," Deal, aged 73 years.

From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury, 6 December, 1873. BOROUGH PETTY SESSIONS The Magistrates present at these Sessions on Thursday were the Mayor, and G. Hughes, W. M. Cavell, E. Brown, and G. Fry, Esqrs. The licensee of the "Yarmouth Packet" public-house, Beach Street, was endorsed from Miss M. A. West to Mr. M. Langley.

From the Deal, Walmer and Sandwich Mercury, 29 November 1919. Among the awards of compensation in respect of licensed houses decided last week by the East Kent Compensation Authority, were the following:- "Yarmouth Packet," Beach Street, Deal. - £869 (East Kent Brewery Co., £719, Mrs. Agnes M. Job, £150).

Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald 29 November 1919. COMPENSATION FOR EXTINGUISHED EAST KENT LICENCES. At the supplemental meeting of East Kent Compensation Authority held at Canterbury last week, under the presidency of Lord Harris, the amounts awarded by the Committee's valuer (Mr. Cobb) were apportioned among owner and tenants, as follows:— "Yarmouth Packet," Deal, £869 (East Kent Brewery Co., £719; Agnes Mary Job, £150).

From the East Kent Mercury, 1997. NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT. By L. W. Cozens. At about five o'clock on June 21st 1799, a Mr. Sutton, keeper of the "Yarmouth Packet" public house was found hanged in the privy. Once before he had attempted the same rash act, but was cut down. His father, brother and sister had put an end to their lives in a similar way. The coroner's inquest brought in a verdict that he had taken his own life. Some 70 years later, according to the Mercury, another landlord committed suicide in a similar way by hanging himself in the privy. The "Yarmouth Packet" was a public house that stood on the north-west corner of Dolphin Street, where it joined Beach Street. It is now a private house. The photo below, kindly sent by Patricia Streater is of the house mentioned above at 195 Beach Street.

The above picture, August 1885.

From an email received 3 October 2024. The landlord who committed suicide was named Richard Sutton; he was buried ‘near the old buring ground in the Highway Leading from lower Deal to Middle Deal about half ten at Night’ (as recorded in the Deal St Leonard parish register. 1799 Richard Sutton of the Yarmouth Packett Deal hanged himself after the second attempt on friday the 28th Day of June 1799 in the morning between five & six o'clock by a small peice of cord in the Privy of the said house. the Coroners Inquest sat on the body and brought in their verdict Fielo de se. List of officials at the coroner’s inquest Edwd Mount Esqr Mayor & Coroner Mr Josh Iggulden Foreman | Wm Jarman Thos Stokes Saml Curling Wm Hills Wm Awsten Thos Hadley Thos Mourylain (usually Mourilyan) John Harrison John Pettet Carpr (carpenter?) Richd Gibbons Richd Hayman junr and Sils (Silvester?) Eastes (Jurors) and was buried 29th Near the old buring ground in the Highway Leading from lower Deal to Middle Deal about half ten at Night Richd Long } Charles Crickett } Churchwardens Wm Hinds Constable.   Transcribed from the parish register of Deal, spelling and case as in original, my additions are in round brackets. Regards, Celia Cotton.

Misleading information. When I first went to photograph the house I found a giveaway sign on the glass over the front door identified this building as the "Yarmouth Packet".

Above photos by Paul Skelton, 26 July 2008.

I assumed that due to renumbering of the road, the "Yarmouth Packet" was now listed at number 189 and not 180 as I was given to believe. However, the glass sign must be incorrect, and I have now amended my mistake, but left this reference and photograph in, in case someone else finds this building and make the same assumption. To date there is no evidence that this premises was connected to the public house of that name.

A relative of Henry West has recently contacted me (Sept 2020) and explained the reason why the house also has the same name:- "Henry West was my 3x Great Grandfather and from research I have done on this and a visit to Deal, I understand the following. Henry West was landlord of the "Yarmouth Packet" at 180 Beach Street until he retired and moved to a house across the road, which was then called The Yarmouth Packet. He lived there until he died in 1872.

The original Inn was on the sea side of the promenade at number 180 (even number) the house is on the other side of the street, is number 195 (an odd number).

Due to high tides and sea wall deterioration the Inn was demolished and a new promenade was built. I don't have the dates for this.

Further information from Pat Wilson explains the following:- The original pub was on the corner of Dolphin St. 180 was the old number which became 195. Before renumbering happened the numbers were consecutive. Starting at the sea side with no 1 roughly opposite North Street and going all the way down to South Street before continuing back up again starting at 80 on the other side. ie there wasn’t an odd and even side of the road then.

This style still exists in the small roads like mine which confuses the hell out of people! My street is 1-11 on one side and 12-19 on the other.

The new numbering introduced odd and even so the sea side was then even and the town side odd. New No 1 was now the old 80! Old No 1 became 202.

So your gentleman Mr. West who moved into 189 after he retired did move indeed move across the road - Dolphin Street! Just three houses along.

Best wishes,

Pat Wilson.

Above photograph taken by Paul Skelton. Showing the house where licensee Henry West moved to after his retirement, and obviously called it the same name as the pub he was in charge of for 25 years.

LICENSEE LIST

SUTTON Richard to 28/June/1799 dec'd

BEST William 1804+

RALPH Benjamin 1828-39+

PRESTWIDGE G late 1830s

CULLEN Ambrose 1840+

WEST Henry 1841-72 (age 81 in 1871)

WEST Miss M A to Dec/1873

LANGLEY Mr M Dec/1873-May/1874

POOLEY Edward May/1874+

KEMP Amelia Mrs 1881-1908+ (age 54 in 1891)

JOB Agnes Mar Mrs 1911-31/Dec/19 (widow age 49 in 1911)

https://pubwiki.co.uk/YarmouthPacket.shtml

Apparently the house closed on 31 December 1919, even though the Post Office directory shows it Open in 1922. There is also reference to the contents of the house being sold by auction on 25 October 1921.

From the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34

From the Pigot's Directory 1839

From the Pigot's Directory 1840

From Bagshaw Directory 1847

From the Post Office Directory 1855

From the Post Office Directory 1862

From the Kelly's Directory 1862

From the Kelly's Directory 1874

From the Post Office Directory 1874

From the Kelly's Directory 1878

From the Post Office Directory 1882

From the Post Office Directory 1891

From the Kelly's Directory 1899

From the Kelly's Directory 1903

From Pikes 1908

From the Post Office Directory 1913

Deal Library List 1914

From the Post Office Directory 1922

Deal Licensing Register

From the Deal Walmer & Sandwich Mercury

The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers