161 London Road / Johns Hole
Stone
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Above photo, circa 1915, kindly sent by Shaun Gardiner. |
Above postcard, circa 1920, kindly sent by Shaun Gardiner. |
Above photo, circa 1920, kindly sent by Shaun Gardiner. |
Above photo circa 1950s. |
Above photo 2013 by Chris Whippet
Creative Commons Licence. |
Above Google image December 2020. |
West Kent Guardian, Saturday 15 June 1839.
Auction. Kent. Capital Tavern Property. Valuable Freeholds, Stone, near
Dartford, and Gravesend, Kent.
That well-known public house, the "Welch Tavern," with Ariable and Marsh
Land, Five Cottages, a Gentlemanly Residence, Stabling, Gardens, and
Outhouses., situated near St. Johns Hole Turnpike, on the Great Dover
Road, 16 miles from London, 1 mile from Dartford, 5 miles from
Gravesend, and near the village of Greenhithe.
Together with four freehold dwelling houses, situated in Stone Street,
Gravesend, and near the Great Dover Road. This capital freehold property
will be sold by auction by Mr. Eversfield, on Tuesday, 18th June, 1839,
at the "New Inn," Gravesend, at 2 o'clock, by order of the Trustees for
sale.
Particulars and conditions of sale may be had of Mr. Southgate,
Solicitor, Gravesend; Mr. Edmed, Solicitor, Gravesend; Mr. Russell,
Solicitor, Dartford; of Messrs. Baxindale & Co., Solicitors, 7, Great
Winchester Street; at Caddell's Gazette Office, Rochester;
Gazette-Office, Maidstone; at the Auction Mart, London; and of the
Auctioneer, at the Estate Agency Office, Gravesend.
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From the Kentish Gazette, 20 September 1836.
DEATHS.
Sept. 8. At Maidstone, Mrs. Claringbold, wife of Mr. W. Claringbold,
late of the "Welsh Tavern," Stone, in this county.
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South Eastern Gazette, Tuesday 29 March 1859.
To Let, the "Welsh Tavern," with large garden and meadow, at Stone.
Apply to J. B. Miskin, Brewery, Dartford.
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Gravesend Reporter, North Kent and South Essex Advertiser 25 August 1866.
AN ESCAPED LUNATIC.
On Wednesday one of the male inmates of the lunatic asylum at Stone
escaped over the wall. He was soon followed and overtaken near to the
"Welch Inn" on the road towards Stone and brought back to the asylum.
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Gravesend Reporter, North Kent and South Essex Advertiser, Saturday 17 February 1883.
Dartford Petty Sessions.
Jane Burkis was summoned by Henry Maynard for being disorderly at the
"Welsh Tavern, on the 3rd inst., and Marnard was summoned for assaulting
Jane Burkis at the same time and place.
The evidence was of such a conflicting character that the Bench
dismisses both summonses.
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From the
https://www.kentonline.co.uk By Sean Delaney, 21 February 2020.
Man taken to hospital after air ambulance called to crash on A226 London Road, near Stone.
A motorcyclist has been airlifted to hospital with serious injuries after he crashed in to a lorry last night.
The collision happened on the A226 London Road, near Stone in Dartford
soon after 10pm.
Police and the South East Coast Ambulance Service attended the scene at
the junction of Tollgate Road, near the Welsh Tavern Pub.
An air ambulance was also called, landing at the nearby Stone Recreation
Ground.
Paramedics assessed a 19-year-old man for injuries before he was taken
to a London hospital where he remains in a serious but stable condition.
Three fire engines were also in attendance and crews worked to make the
scene safe.
It comes just months after a man was killed on the same stretch of road
when his car collided with a parked lorry.
Officers are appealing for any witnesses or anyone with dashcam footage
to come forward.
Investigating officer PC James Galbraith said: "We would like to hear
from any witnesses to the incident and any residents in the area who may
have CCTV that covers the road.
"We are also appealing to drivers who were travelling along London Road
at that time who may have dashcam footage of the motorcycle prior to the
collision."
Call the appeal line on 01622 798 538 or email sciu.td@kent.pnn.police.uk
quoting DB/JG/014/20.
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From the
https://www.kentonline.co.uk By Sean Delaney, 4 September 2022.
Future of 184-year-old Welsh Tavern pub in London Road, Stone, at risk.
The future of a nearly 200-year-old pub remains uncertain after its
owners put the historic venue up for sale.
It's been serving loyal customers and passing trade in Stone since 1827
but the Welsh Tavern may have called last orders for the final time.
In recent months the pub in London Road, near Dartford, has been shut
and boarded up after the former landlord and landlady opted out of
renewing their lease.
Leisure property specialists Fleurets, acting on behalf of the Stonegate
Pub Group, has put the pub up for sale with a price tag of £595,000.
New owners have been secured, subject to contract, but until further
details emerge it is unsure whether it will remain in its current usage.
And according to the sale listing, the venue is "suitable for
alternative use", subject to planning permission.
The two-storey pub is described as a "substantial detached public house"
with a large beer garden, close to Bluewater Shopping Centre and
Dartford town centre.
It's housed inside an unlisted period building with "ground floor
single-storey extensions to the side and rear" with "painted external
elevations under pitched slate tiled roofs".
As a former coaching inn on London Road used by drovers of sheep and
other livestock, the boozer has a long history of serving weary
travellers their favourite tipple.
In 1781, the tollhouse erected at "John's Hole Turnpike" was pulled down
and a new one erected close to the pub, which became a stopping-off
point.
An auction listing from 1837 describes it as "a capital inn with coach
house, stables and granary, tap room, kitchen bar, two parlours, two
dairy rooms, and two good chambers and four excellent chambers".
The pub was purchased by the Miskin Brewery of Dartford before being
taken over in 1875 by Colonel Charles Newman Kidd, of Westhill House,
for the sum of £1,300.
Its just the latest in a long line of pub closures across the town in
recent years with the "Fulwich" in St Vincents Road having been converted
into a B&B.
More recently, both The "Bridges" at Horton Kirby and the
"Papermakers Arms"
in Hawley Road, Sutton-at-Hone, have now permanently closed.
Further a field, the "George and Dragon" in Swanscombe, another historic
coaching inn, has also shut permanently and could be turned into a pizza
takeaway.
Thousands of pubs across the county are braced for a difficult winter
amid soaring energy prices, mortgage costs and food prices.
It comes as businesses attempt to recover from the fallow years of the
pandemic which saw trade dampened by widespread restrictions.
Historian Christian Bull said the continuing trend of pub closures was
not surprising given those pressures but was a real loss for the
community.
He said: "It is very regrettable to learn of another public house that
can't make a living and I think part of that is probably the companies
which they belong to.
"They want to make bigger profits out of a shrinking industry where
people prefer to buy out of a supermarket.
"Some are like vampires, they squeeze the life blood out of them."
Mr Bull hosts various historical talks in Gravesend and the surrounding
areas of north Kent including "Stone: The tale of the incredible
shrinking parish".
"I greatly regret it has happened in a place like Stone which is
fighting for its identity," he added.
He fears it is being increasingly "gobbled up" by Dartford and points to
how the parish has shrunk from 3,000 acres to just over half that size
in recent years.
The historian believes pubs still have a vital role in the future and
hopes many like the "Welsh Tavern" and "George and Dragon" can be saved, or
at least retained as some form of community asset.
"Pubs are one of the many things that create good mental and community
health," he said. "They are all part of the jigsaw of a healthy social
life."
A spokesman for Stonegate Pub Partners said: “We can confirm that the
incumbent tenant of the "Welsh Tavern" has made the decision not to renew
their lease and we have taken the property back.
"It is currently closed while we review the next steps for the pub.”
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From the
https://www.kentonline.co.uk By Keely Greenwood, 8 March 2023.
The Welsh Tavern pub in London Road, Stone, could become flats.
Plans have been put forward to demolish a pub in Dartford and turn it into flats.
The Welsh Tavern in London Road, in Stone, Dartford could be bulldozed
and replaced with eight two-bedroom and six one-bedroom flats with
off-road parking and a new access road.
The pub, which has been boarded up since closing last September, is
described on the planning application as an "unlisted period building"
and it has been serving locals for 184 years.
Councillor Kelly Grehan said: "There is strong feeling about the
building, given its historic role in the town.
"I'm very worried about the building sitting, boarded up for decades now
the pub is closed, like some others in the town.
"But equally I share concerns other have about ploughing ahead without
thought to the need for additional infrastructure. So I hope those with
concerns will register them."
The pub closure is just the latest in a long line of pubs shutting their
doors across the town in recent years, with the "Fulwich" in St Vincents
Road having been converted into a B&B.
More recently, both The "Bridges" at Horton Kirby and the
"Papermakers Arms"
in Hawley Road, Sutton-at-Hone, have now permanently closed.
Further afield, The "George and Dragon" in Swanscombe, another historic
coaching inn, has also shut permanently and could be turned into a pizza
takeaway.
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From the
https://www.kentonline.co.uk By Alex Langridge, 6 May 2023.
Flats plan for The Welsh Tavern, London Road, Dartford, withdrawn.
Proposals to demolish a pub and build a block of flats have been withdrawn.
Applicants Mr and Mrs Mandeep Sandha had applied for outline planning
permission to bulldoze The Welsh Tavern in Dartford.
They wanted to replace the former business with an apartment block of 14
flats with eight two-bedroom and six one-bedroom units.
If approved, it would have seen off-road parking, bin and cycle stores
and a new access road created.
Speaking when the plans were first submitted, Cllr Kelly Grehan (Lab)
said: "There is strong feeling about the building, given its historic
role in the town.
"I'm very worried about the building sitting, boarded up for decades now
the pub is closed, like some others in the town.
"But equally I share concerns other have about ploughing ahead without
thought to the need for additional infrastructure. So I hope those with
concerns will register them."
The London Road pub has been boarded up since closing last September and
is described on the planning application as an "unlisted period
building".
The proposed elevations for the apartment block. Picture: H Channa.
Before it closed the popular public house had been serving locals for
184 years.
But, the design and access statement said for the pub to again be
successful it would require capital investment, the ability to serve hot
food and with interests rates rising it is difficult to find investors.
It added: “We believe that this proposed development is one that is of a
well-considered and high-quality design. It is befitting of the local
character area, and will make a positive contribution to the existing
local area.
“We trust that the Local Authority will appreciate the work and efforts
undertaken by the applicant and consultant team in order to produce
these well considered proposals.”
Yet before the borough council could make a decision on the scheme, the
application was withdrawn.
It is not yet known why the decision was made. |
LICENSEE LIST
STRUTTON Edward 1828+ (
Welch Arms)
CLARINGBOLD Mr 1836
HOOKER John 1840+ (Welch Tavern, St John's Hole)
BENNETT John 1858-62+ (age 56 in 1861)
BAKER Thomas 1874+
MESSENGER Henry 1882+
WATSON James 1891+
BYHURST Arthur 1901+ (age 40 in 1901)
HUDSON William Henry 1903+
MURRAY George 1905+
TARRANT William 1913-22+
WHITE Jim 1950s?
https://pubwiki.co.uk/WelshTavern.shtml
From the Pigot's Directory 1828-29
From the Kelly's Directory 1903
Kentish Gazette
Census
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