58 Main Street
Sutton at Hone
https://whatpub.com/greyhound
Above photo, circa 1900, also showing the "Rose and Crown" far right. |
Above photo, 1910s, kindly sent by Sal Harbour. |
Above photo, circa 1930s, kindly sent by Sal Harbour. |
Above photo circa 1960. |
Above photo circa 1960. |
Above photo 2010
by Dr Neil Clifton
Creative Commons Licence. |
Above photo, August 2017, kindly sent by Ian Goodrick. |
Above sign July 2012.
With thanks from Brian Curtis
www.innsignsociety.com.
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I am informed that the pub had a forge here in 1900.
From the Maidstone Telegraph, Rochester and Chatham Gazette, Saturday 26 February 1859. Price 1d.
SUTTON VALENCE.
The second anniversary dinner of “Court Star, of Sutton” took place on
Friday evening, 11th February. At the “Greyhound Inn.” It was well
attended by its members, and also by many of the respectable inhabitants
. Mr. Thorn supplied one of the best dinners of the kind we ever sat
down to, and in the most artistic manner. After the cloth was cleared
the usual toasts were drunk, and ably responded to. Some capital singing
followed, including that beautiful glee, “The Hardy Horseman.” Which was
performed in a highly creditable manner, and duly appreciated by the
whole company. We were glad to find that the court had not forgotten
their sick brethren in the hour of their own festivity, but had taken
care that they had been attended to. |
Maidstone Journal and Kentish Advertiser, Monday 27 August 1866.
DARTFORD PETTY SESSIONS.
Mr. Gibson applied for Mr. Packman, "Greyhound," Sutton-at-Hone, Refused.
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Bromley & District Times - Friday 13 March 1891.
Dartford. Assault Cases.
Saturday. Before Mr. T Bevax (in the chair), Colonel Beamish, and Mr. E. J. Elgood.
Water Harber, blacksmith of Sutton-at-Hone, was submitted for assaulting
Sarah George, a married woman, of the same place on February 28th.
Defendant pleaded not guilty.
Complainant stated that she was the wife of Albert George, and they
lived next door to defendant's workshop. On the previous Saturday, about
9:30 a.m. she was looking out of her sitting room window, and heard a
child scream. Looking across the yard she saw defendant with a big stick
in his hand, which he dropped and picked up a halter and cord. Harber
was calling one of his boys, who was very terrified, and appeared to be
running away from him. Knowing that defendant was in the habit of
chastising his children very severely, she went outside and said
"Walter, do have mercy on the boy." Defendant said he would give it to
her, and struck her a severe blow across the arm. Complainant showed the
bench the bruise on her arm caused by the blow, in consequence of which
he had been attended by a doctor.
Albert George, husband of complainant, saw the boy running away from the
defendant, and heard his wife ask him to have mercy on the boy, when
Harber struck her a blow across the arm. Defendant had since called on
him, and apologised for what he had done, and he would have forgiven
him, but for the intervention of Superintendent Webster.
In defence Harber stated that complainant and her husband kept the
"Greyhound Inn." Complainant had a grudge against him, because he did
not go to their house, and threatened to bring him to Dartford Court
first chance she had. He was obliged to correct his boy, and complainant
had no cause to interfere, as he was not unduly severe.
Richard Tompkins, in defendant's employ, stated that Harber struck
complainant quite accidentally as he was leaning over the fence when he
(defendant) was chasing the boy.
The Chairman said defendant must correct his children moderately, and he
would be fined 10s. and the costs, amounted to £1. 2s. 6d.
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From
http://kenttodayandyesterday.blogspot.co.uk 31 December 2010.
(1885)
DOUBLE MURDER AT THE GREYHOUND - A NEW YEAR TALE
The popular "Greyhound" pub in the quiet village of Sutton At Hone on the
outskirts of Dartford, Kent has a very dark secret.
Exactly 125 years ago today it was the scene of a horrific double
murder..... (1885)
Following his customary routine, at ten o'clock in the evening, the 64
year old landlord David Smith had locked the front door for the night.
In the dimly lit taproom, two of his lodgers, Alfred Kemp a bricklayer's
labourer and James Stroude a boot maker, shared a pot of ale at a table
by the window.
A third lodger, John Crowhurst had already retired upstairs to bed.
Shortly after ten, 42 year old paper mill worker John Knocker entered
the taproom, ordered a pint of beer and sat near the fireplace.
About fifteen minutes later, Knocker suddenly got up and walked calmly
across to Kemp.
Without uttering a single word, he placed his left arm around Kemp's
neck and with his right hand drew a razor deep across his throat.
Kemp fell sideways to the floor with blood spurting from the six inch
wound to his neck.
In horror, Stroude saw Knocker making towards him but managed to effect
his escape through the back door of the pub.
Passing the landlord Smith in the passageway he shouted "John's gone
wrong tonight!" and set off to raise the alarm.
Smith entered the taproom and was immediately set upon by Knocker.
A ferocious struggle ensued but "old man" Smith was no match for Knocker
who had served 25 years in the army.
Smith was pushed to the ground and his throat slit virtually from ear to
ear.
On hearing the commotion, Crowhurst rushed downstairs to find the
lifeless bodies of Kemp and Smith lying in a pool of blood on the
taproom floor.
Of Knocker, there was no sign.
Shortly before midnight, John Knocker was apprehended by Police
Constable Benge on West Hill, Dartford.
His face, hands and clothes covered in his victim's blood, Knocker
immediately confessed to his crimes and was taken into custody.
An inquest was held into the tragic events.
Knocker had been resident at The "Greyhound" for around five months and
had previously always been on very good terms with the landlord and his
fellow lodgers.
His army conduct had been exemplary and Police Constable Benge who had
made the arrest confirmed that he was not drunk.
So what had gone so terribly wrong?
At the inquest Mrs Smith told how Knocker had left The "Greyhound" in
apparent good spirits on Christmas Eve for a short holiday but had
returned the following Tuesday "a different man"....
We can only speculate what it was that tipped a sane man over the edge
and made him commit such crimes.
Unfortunately I have not so far been able to find out what happened to
John Knocker at trial but I can confirm that he was not hanged for his
crimes.
In view of the circumstances of the case I imagine he may have been
declared insane and committed to a lunatic asylum.
Nowadays, he would probably be tried for manslaughter on the grounds of
diminished responsibility.
David Smith the landlord was buried in the nearby graveyard at St John
the Baptist church on 10th January 1886. |
From The Times, 13 January, 1886.
South Eastern Circuit.
Yesterday, before Mr. Justice Stephen, at Maidstone, Mr Dickens, for the
treasury, applied that the trial of the Dartford murder case might be
postponed so that inquiries might be made by competent persons into the
state of the prisoner’s mind. The prisoner, John Knocker, offering no
objection, the application was granted. The case will therefore be tried
at the alternate Spring Assizes to be held at Lewes.
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From the Criminal Registers County of Kent May 1986.
Spring Assize held at Lewes 24th. May 1886.
John Knocker – Offence Murder – Insane when act was
comitted to be kept in strict custody.
Warrant of removal of a Criminal Lunatic, ordered to be detained during
her Majesty’s pleasure, from Prison to Broadmoor.
CRIMINAL LUNATIC ASYLUMS ACT, 1860
Registered number of Criminal lunatic X 10441
Court Lewes assizes
Order of Court - To be detained during Her Majesty’s pleasure.
Prison in which confined at date of Warrant – Lewes
Signed by Hugh Culling Eardley Childers (Home Secretary) One of Her
Majesty’s Principal Secretaries of State. Whitehall,
2 day of June 1886.
To the Governor of H. M. Prison at Lewes and To the Superintendent of
Broadmoor Lunatic Asylum.
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From the Maidstone Journal and Kentish Advertiser, 12 July 1892.
A protection order to sell at the "Greyhound," Sutton-at-Hone, till next
transfer day, was granted to Mr. Henry Selling.
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From The Times, 13 January, 1886.
SOUTH-EASTERN CIRCUIT.
Yesterday before Mr. Justice Stephen, at Maidstone, Mr. Dickens, for
the Treasury, applied that the trial of the Dartford murder case might
be postponed so that inquiries might be made by competent persons into
the state of the prisoner's mind. The prisoner, John Knocker, offered no
objection, the application was granted. The case will therefore be tried
at the alternative Spring Assizes to be held at Lewes.
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From
http://www.tescopoly.org. 29 August 2013.
NEW TESCO STORE
Tesco has put in a planning order to take over another local village
pub - the "Greyhound" in Sutton-at-hone, DA4 9EU, Near Dartford, Kent.
Residents feel that the Main Road can't take any more increased
traffic. The hazards to cyclist and families walking to the local
village school and playgroup is currently very high. The local
convenience store situated opposite the proposed site that has served
Sutton-at-hone for many years will be crushed by Tesco's arrival. The
store would be squeezed between families houses and gardens.
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From
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk 29 August 2013. By Alan Woods.
RESIDENTS OBJECT TO NEW TESCO STORE
THIRTY-NINE Sutton-at-Hone residents have submitted objections
against the opening of a new Tesco store in the village.
Dartford Council's development control board will discuss proposed
changes to "Greyhound" pub, in Main Road, put forward by the supermarket
giant at a meeting next Thursday (September 4).
However, the recommendation from the council is the application is
refused.
The new store, which will include an on-site bakery, will be open
between 6am and 11pm, seven days a week.
Ten car parking spaces are also planned for the new store, but
residents have lodged a list of objections with the council.
These include arguments Sutton-at-Hone does not need a Tesco store,
the 10 parking spaces are inadequate and deliveries to the store will be
noisy.
In a report, Dartford Council's development control board officer
Sonia Bunn justifies the recommended refusal by saying the size of the
shop requires at least 22 parking spaces.
Ms Bunn writes: “I consider the proposed extension and the subsequent
use of the property as a retail shop is an over-intensified use of the
site which will result in unacceptable disturbance and inconvenience to
local residents and a change to the character of the village.”
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From
http://www.tescopoly.org. 31 October 2013.
PLANS REFUSED
As the proposal fails to provide adequate car parking on-site which
is likely to result in conflict between vehicles and pedestrians and car
parking on surrounding roads leading to inconvenience for other road
users, and is detrimental to the residential amenity of neighbouring
occupiers and will have a detrimental impact on the character of the
village. The proposal is therefore contrary to the Council's adopted
Parking Standards Supplementary Guidance 2012 and Policies B1, V5 and
T23 of the adopted Dartford Local Plan 1995.
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From an email received 23 July 2015.
My husband Alan Bayley had the "Greyhound" from 1982, he did much construction work to
the pub, uncovering a very deep well which has now been covered over by
the now toilets, we closed the pub for a short period to do the works,
the pub was reopened by the then world champion snooker player Steve
Davies, so very sad that the pub has now seen better days!
Linda Bayley.
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Steve Davis and Linda and Alan Bayley 1982. |
Re-opening of the pub in 1982. |
Steve Davis and Linda and Alan Bayley 1982. |
From the
http://www.tescopoly.org 31 October 2013. Tesco has put in a
planning order to take over another local village pub - the Greyhound in
Sutton-at-hone, DA4 9EU, Near Dartford, Kent.
Residents feel that the Main Road can't take any more increased
traffic. The hazards to cyclist and families walking to the local
village school and playgroup is currently very high. The local
convenience store situated opposite the proposed site that has served
Sutton-at-hone for many years will be crushed by Tesco's arrival. The
store would be squeezed between families houses and gardens.
Plans refused
As the proposal fails to provide adequate car parking on-site which
is likely to result in conflict between vehicles and pedestrians and car
parking on surrounding roads leading to inconvenience for other road
users, and is detrimental to the residential amenity of neighbouring
occupiers and will have a detrimental impact on the character of the
village. The proposal is therefore contrary to the Council's adopted
Parking Standards Supplementary Guidance 2012 and Policies B1, V5 and
T23 of the adopted Dartford Local Plan 1995.
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From the
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk 15th February 2018.
The Greyhound in Sutton at Hone: HMO plan for pub rejected.
A plan to turn an empty north Kent pub into a house in multiple
occupation has been thrown out by Dartford councillors.
An application to renovate the Greyhound in Main Street, Sutton at
Hone, into an 11-bedroom HMO has been rejected following a meeting.
The developer, Bestsafe Development, wanted to replace the roof with
a higher single-pitched roof increasing the height by 1.4m.
In its application, the developer said: "This proposal for the
conversion of a former public house to form an HMO of 11 no. single
bedrooms would be a positive addition to the local area.
"The proposals will reinvigorate a tired building that has been
unoccupied for a number of years by providing high quality HMO units
which will provide much needed choice for the local housing market.
"It will enable young persons to live locally, close to their
families, and yet be able to commute to central London via nearby train
station. It will bring much needed economy to the area and local
businesses."
An HMO is a home that has at least three tenants living there - and
the scheme for the Greyhound proposed 11 single bedrooms, along with 12
parking spaces.
However, the scheme has been rejected because of how the new roof
would impact on the setting of a Grade II listed building.
The council rejected the application on the grounds that the height
of the new new roof would have significant detrimental impact to the
appearance of the building. |
LICENSEE LIST
PACKHAM James 1861-71+ (also basket maker age 28 in 1861)
MEADEN William 1881+ (age 54 in 1881)
SMITH David to 1885
GEORGE Albert 1891+
WATTS Thomas H 1891+ (general labourer age 39 in 1891)
SELLING Henry July/1892+
COOK George 1901+ (age 39 in 1901)
HIBBERT Carl 1911-13+ (also saddler age 52 in 1911)
HARBER Walter J 1930-38+
McCARTHY Pat to 1982
BAYLEY Alan 1982-91
HAWKER Tony 1991+
Manager name unknown
???? Amanda ???? (One of Alan Bayley's barmaids.)
https://pubwiki.co.uk/Greyhound.shtml
Census
From the Kelly's Directory 1934
From the Post Office Directory 1938
Maidstone
and Kentish Journal
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