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PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1843-

Ivy House

Latest 2009+

(Name to)

27 Hackington Road

St. Stephen's

Tyler Hill

Ivy House 1900

Above postcard, circa 1900, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Ivy House 1990

Above photo, 1990, kindly sent by Garth Wyver.

Ivy House 2009

Above photo 2009 by Nigel Chadwick Creative Commons Licence.

Ivy House

Above pictures taken from Google maps March 2009.

Ivy House

Above pictures taken from Google maps March 2009.

Ivy House sign 1991Ivy House sign

Ivy House sign left, July 1991, sign right, date unknown.

Above with thanks from Brian Curtis www.innsignsociety.com

 

From the Kentish Gazette, 19 December 1843.

Robbery.

On Saturday evening last, a cart going from the "Cross Keys," Oaten Hill, Canterbury, belonging to Mr. Filmer, of Lower Hardres, was robbed by three men in the Old Dover-road, not far from the "Ivy House." The property stolen was a market basket, containing provisions, &c. value 20s. The robbery was effected by the men reaching over the back of the cart. The thieves, we are sorry to say, escaped.

 

From the Whitstable Times, 20 December, 1902.

TYLER HILL – ATTEMPTED SUICIDE.

George Jeffery was charged with attempting to commit suicide at Tyler Hill, Blean, on the previous Sunday afternoon.

The evidence taken at the previous hearing was read over.

Prisoner stated that on Sunday afternoon he went to the “Ivy House,” Blean, at a quarter to one o’clock. He had some drink there, and when he came out he was drank. When he got home he found his wife was getting ready to go for a walk with a man named Draper. She was always out with him every night. Prisoner was drunk, and did not know what to do. He tried to persuade his wife not to go out with the men, but she said he could not stop her from doing so. Prisoner expressed his regret, and said he would not repeat the offence.

Superintendent Jacobs said prisoner had told the Police Court Missioner that he would sign the pledge. Prisoner's work had been retained for him.

The Bench discharged prisoner on the undertaking that he would not repeat the offence.

 

From the Whitstable Times, 27 December, 1902.

TYLER HILL – CHARGE DISMISSED.

Thomas Jennings Williams, landlord of the “Ivy House,” Tyler Hill was summoned for permitting drunkenness on his licensed premises on Sunday, December 7th.

Defendant, who was represented by Mr. Waller Hills, of Margate, pleaded not guilty.

Mr. Sidney Wacher, surgeon, stated that on Sunday, December 7th, he saw George Jeffery in his house at Tyler Hill at about five o’clock p.m., and he was then rather intoxicated. His breath was reeking with liquor, so witness took it he had had a considerable quantity of alcoholic liquor.

Cross-examined:—Witness said the man Jeffery might have had the liquor in his own house. He could not say where he got it from. He did not know public-houses had to be closed at 2.30 on Sundays.

George Jeffery, a labourer, living at Tyler Hill, and employed by Mr. J. Mount, at Harbledown, stated that on Sunday, the 7th, he went to the “Ivy House” at about a quarter to one, He had not been out anywhere before going there on that morning. Before going there he had not had any intoxicating liquor. He went there with George Draper. They left the house at closing time—2.30. Witness knew defendant. He saw him when he went into the house and at 2.30 and defendant told them the time. Witness was in the tap room. During that time he saw defendant, who served the beer in the tap room. Witness paid for a quart. He and Draper drank together. Draper paid for three pints. Witness also drank with two others, who paid for three quarts each. Defendant brought some of the beer into the taproom. Witness did not feel any effects of the drink until he got out of doors. He did not have any drink from 2.30 up till the time the doctor saw him.

Cross-examined.—.Witness had been in the habit of visiting the house. He knew all the people that visited the house on a Sunday. They were all very friendly. There were seven or eight people in the tap room during the time he was there. During the time a number of people came in and out. Witness was perfectly sober until he went out into the air. When he went home he was drunk. No doubt being excited over the conduct of Draper and his wife had something to do with his condition.

The Chairman.—Last week I asked you whether you were drunk when you left the “Ivy House,” and you said you were. Was that true or false?

Witness.—I don't recollect you asking me that.

The Chairman.—Well, it is in the memory of the Court. Do you think you would have tried to commit suicide when you were in your right mind?

Witness:- No.

Mrs. Jeffrey, wife of the last witness, stated that her husband left home at about quarter to one on December 7th with George Draper, and returned at a quarter to three. He was then drunk, and could not walk straight.

Cross-examined:- Witness’s husband was a sober man as a rule. He did not tell her that it was after he came out into the air that he felt drunk.

George Draper, a woodcutter, living at Tyler Hill, stated that on the 7th he saw Jeffrey at about 12.15 at his house. He went with him to the “Ivy House” at about ten minutes to one. They went to the bar first. They had a quart of beer, which they took into the tap room to drink. During the time he was in the house he paid for a quart of beer and also a pint. Jeffrey paid for a quart. Witness left the house at about 2.10. While they were in the tap room six quarts were brought by the landlord. There were six or seven of them there. Witness did not notice anything the matter with Jeffrey when they left the house. Witness next saw him about 3.30. he was called to his house, Jeffrey having cut his throat.

Superintendent Jacobs stated that on the previous Tuesday at 2 o’clock he served the summons on defendant on the road to Tyler Hill. Witness told him what it was for, and defendant replied "Yes, that is no more then I expected." I did not notice the man was drunk. Witness said “You were in Court on Saturday, and you heard what was told the Bench,” He said “Yes, I did.”

Mr. Hills submitted that there was no case to answer. There was no evidence to support the charge. All the witnesses called by the prosecution had said the man Jeffery was perfectly sober when he left the house. Upon those statements Mr. Hills asked the Bench to say there was no charge to answer.

The Chairman intimated that the Bench would like to hear the evidence for the defence,

Defendant, on oath, stated that all the people in the house on the 7th instant were practically the same as came in every Sunday. They were all friends. When Jeffery came in the house he was sober, and so he was when he left. The first he heard of Jeffery saying be was drunk was on the previous Saturday at the Court. After the Police Court proceedings witness said "Yon are a nice one,” Jeffery said “what do you mean.” Witness said “Why did you say you were drunk," and Jeffery said "I had to say something to get out of it. When you are up in front of them people you don’t know what to say."

Cross-examined by Superintendent Jacobs witness said there were about tan people in the bar who drank the beer.

Thomas Curd, who was in the tap room on the Sunday in question, stated that he saw Jeffery in the house. When he left he was quiet and orderly, and was quite sober.

Thomas Midham, a farm labourer, in the employ of Mr. Whiteman, stated that he went into the “Ivy House” just after 2 o’clock. He saw Jeffery there. He was perfectly sober.

William Pout, a platelayer, who was in the “Ivy House” on Sunday, December 7th, stated that Jeffery was quite sober.

Miss Caroline Pont, living just below the “Ivy House,” Tyler Hill, stated that she saw Jeffery coming from the direction of the public house at 2.40. He was walking as if he were perfectly sober.

William Porter, a winkle picker, living at Knott’s Lane, Canterbury, stated that he went into the “Ivy House” at about 2.15 on Sunday the 7th. Jeffery gave him a glass of beer. They had a conversation about some winkles, and Jeffery was quite sober.

The Chairman said the case had been properly brought forward by Superintendent Jacobs. They had carefully considered the evidence, and they were not able to come to the conclusion that the charge was established, but they thought that the defendant had brought that unpleasantness upon himself by supplying too much liquor indiscriminately all round. They hoped it would be a warning to him in future and that he would be more discreet. After January 1st the law would be much stronger, and it behoved defendant to take much greater care. The case would be dismissed.

 

From an email received 4 July, 2012.

Ivy House Hunt Apr 1965

I attach two snaps showing the 1963 Boxing Day Hunt above and below which met every Boxing Day at the Ivy House before setting off on land to the South and East of the village, much of which is now occupied by the University. My Grandfather and I would regularly follow it.

Stuart Eaton.

Boxing Day Hunt 1963

From an email received 8 July, 2012.

The "Ivy House" in Tyler Hill, like any village pub, had its fair share of memorable characters. One such from the 1970s is Bert Saffrey, a likeable countryman who loved his country walks and rambles. He always wore a sprig of something in his lapel, be it orchid, rose and frequently a sprig of honeysuckle. He will be remembered by a few for his for his very sad but also chillingly humourous experience on a day in the mid seventies. A regular in several of the local village pubs, he arrived at the "Ivy House" for a morning drink only to find it closed due to the sad death of the Landlord, Gilbert Spry. He walked a mile to the West, to Blean, to The "Peacock" (closed some years ago) to discover that it was also closed that day, for the same reason – the landlord had sadly died. Both pubs had displayed notices to this effect and both landlords had died on the same day. By now stricken with concern, Bert set off with quickened pace to another favourite pub - The "Royal Oak," half a mile away also in Blean – in his words “........to see and to touch the Landlord to check that he was alive and well...”. Ron Edwards was upstairs when he arrived and his wife, Margaret, on Bert's firm insistence, had to drag him half-shaven down to the bar, as proof, before Bert would take his drink, so concerned was he. This amusing story, with its sad undertones, was related time and again throughout the district.

 

From an email received 30 September, 2012.

Hello Paul;

The landlord and landlady of the Ivy House, certainly from the mid 60s to 1978, were Gilbert and Sheila Spry (though Gilbert died in 1978 and Sheila carried on for a couple of years afterwards). They were ‘models' of the local community. Gilbert was a retired police officer with a very direct manner who would rigorously question any young looking person who entered, whom he thought might be under age. Sheila was from Perth in Scotland, an energetic lady who bustled about with a perpetual smile on her face. She carried on alone for a few years after Gilbert's death. They had a bungalow just down the road from the pub. They had no children and were so devoted to their pub and to the customers that they often holidayed separately. Eastbourne was one of their favourite spots and it was there that Gilbert passed away, whilst on holiday with Sheila back in Tyler Hill minding the pub.

One unforgettable aspect of the Ivy House (and something for which it was quite well known) is the Nine-Pin Skittles table, a game whereby a small wooden ball (about 2” diam) which hung by a thin chain fixed to the top of a pole (about 3 ft high) would be swung/thrown round in an arc to knock as many pins down as possible.

It was addictive and drew many people in. I believe there was a league operating for some years. Top 1960s/70s Ivy House table skittles aficionados include Colin Swales, Charlie Broughton, Frank Ryder, Cyril and Charlie Bean, Ivor Eaton, Fred Slade, the three Hogben brothers and others – perhaps even, yours truly.

The pub is Open 2014+ and the interior has been altered somewhat since those days with, I seem to recall, the addition of an upstairs room.

Stuart Eaton.

 

From an email received 10 August 2022.

I can add a couple of names to the Ivy House table skittles players during the late 70s/early 80s - Derek Kennett, Mark Lewsey, Steve Kirby and myself (Phil Weight). There was an annual knock-out tournament played at that time, which was almost always won by Derek Kennett (apart from one or two "shock" defeats).

Landlady Sheila Spry left the pub (1978?) some time after the death of her husband Gilbert, and the new landlord and landlady who took over were Jack and Lena Watson. Jack was an ex-policeman from Kent Constabulary who took up the licensed victualler trade on his early retirement, the Ivy House being his first pub. Jack and Lena always offered a warm welcome, they sponsored the village football team, and Jack was renowned for his amiable and jokey manner (a large chap, Jack once played the Fairy Godmother in full costume in the pub's Christmas pantomime production of "Cinderfella", with Ivy House regulars playing all the other roles, as well as creating the sets, painting the scenery etc). Jack and Lena were the parents of Suzanne, who married Tony Sherwood and Tony subsequently went into partnership with Allister Collins who acquired and re-opened the Ivy House as the "Tyler's Kiln" in 2015.

I do remember regular mentions by Jack and Lena of strange occurrences being due to "Gilbert" (i.e. the ghost of Gilbert Spry, the previous landlord). Ex-policeman Gilbert (who along with wife Sheila owned a fierce and fearsome black dog called Prince) had a reputation as a dour and humourless landlord, the scourge of underage drinkers, and his reputation evidently outlived him!

Unfortunately I'm not sure how long Jack and Lena Watson retained the Ivy House after I moved away in 1981.

Phil Weight. (Tyler Hill resident 1969 - 1981).

 

From an email received 29 September 2022.

I worked with Sue Watson at BT in the 1970/80s and she introduced me to her parents Jack and Lena and of course to the pub.

I worked as a barmaid for them from about 1980 till 1984 and helped looked after the pub when they went on holiday ( Caroline Goodwin) I played Prince Charming in the Cinderfella pantomime I remember Ian the milkman a few doors down played Cinderfella Tony Sherwood was an Ugly sister The Kennett's were also involved and Derek Kennett Snr had a recording of it- Jack Watson rewrote the script it was hilarious!

On my 21st birthday in 1981 Jack Ian and Tony dressed up as old ladies and sat on some acquired toilets in the bar singing 3 old ladies got locked in a lavatory I can only think I must have locked myself in the loo once!

I also witnessed a strange occurrence One day a row of bottles all different ones jumped off the shelf onto the floor and the cellar was always very spooky!

Jack and Lena were amazing people I think they retired in about 1985 but stayed in the Village, then Tom and Cathy took over Can't remember their surname.

I later became friends with Margaret whom I discovered later grew up in the Ivy House Her parents were Frank and Elsie Cross, her dad was a Motor Parts manager and ex RAF. They were there from approx 1954 to 1960.

The pub is now Kathton house restaurant.

Regards,

Carrie Bird.

 

I have been informed (June 2013) that the pub has recently changed hands, and that a person called Bridget Morris, late of the "Dove" at Dargate purchased the above in 2008 for £425,000 and recently sold it for £275,000.

 

LICENSEE LIST

HUGGINS James 1891-1902+ (also market gardener age 66 in 1891Census)

WILLIAMS Thomas Jennings 1902+

HARVEY Charles 1938+ Post Office Directory 1938

CROSS Frank & Elsie 1954-60

SPRY Gilbert mid 60s-1970s

SPRY Shelia (widow) to 1978

WATSON Jack & Lena 1978-85

???? Tom & Cathy 1985+

Last pub licensee had MORRIS Bridget to 2008

https://pubwiki.co.uk/IvyHouse.shtml

 

Post Office Directory 1938From the Post Office Directory 1938

CensusCensus

 

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