17 Greenwich Road
Greenwich
I am not yet positive that this picture is of the correct "Red Lion"
(possibly not or has it been painted with artistic license?) as
I have found several in this area, but this also shows the "Three
Tuns" on the left. Is that also a church seen in the background, if
so which one? |
Above photo, 1952. |
The pub changed name to the "Greenwich
Inn," date unknown.
Project 2014 has been started to try and identify all the pubs that are
and have ever been open in Kent. I have just added this pub to that list but
your help is definitely needed regarding it's history.
As the information is found or sent to me, including photographs, it will
be shown here.
Thanks for your co-operation.
From the Maidstone Gazette and West Kent Courier, 27 March, 1827.
Sarah Emery, 21, for stealing at St. Paul's Deptford, a £50 banknote,
and other money the property of Henry Matthews.
Joseph Thomas Rogers, a coach trimmer, lodged at the "Red Lion,"
Greenwich Road. About 7 o'clock on the 18th January, prisoner was there
with prosecutors; they sat in a black box, and had a glass of gin and
water. Prosecutor was intoxicated. About an hour after, he fell off the
seat. She asked witness to help him home, and said he should be paid for
his trouble. He did so, and they went to a house in a street next to
King Street. She took a key from her pocket, but an old lady inside open
the door. She was going to shut it as soon as prisoner and prosecutor
were in, but witness was admitted by desire of the girl. Prisoner and
prosecutor went upstairs for about an hour. The old lady begged of
witness to help the man down. Prosecutor and prisoner went out. Shortly
after, prisoner returned to the house, and invited witness upstairs. She
then showed him a £50 note, and asked him what it was; witness said it
was a £5. She said she would go with her to get it changed, he should
have half. She went into a jeweller's shop; before she went in she gave
him a £50 note to hold. He ran away with it to the "Red Lion," and told
the landlord. When afterwards went before a Constable.
Mr. Brown, the landlord, advertise the note; 5 or 6 days afterwards
prosecutor called on him. Rogers was shown to prosecutor. In consequence
witness gave the note to prosecutor.
Henry Matthews depose that he went with a girl to the "Red Lion," but
could not stat the hour. He had a £50, a £20, and a £5 note, 5
sovereigns, some loose silver, and a gilt medal. About 8:30 or 9 o'clock
he missed his money. He afterwards saw the £50 notes at Mr. Brown's and
knew it by the number. He was intoxicated when he was in company with
prisoner, and could not identify her again. He had no recollection of
what passed that evening, except finding his money gone. At 6 o'clock he
had it in his possession, as he was walking from Lewisham to Deptford.
Benjamin Cole, constable of Deptford, apprehended prisoner on the 15th
of February, at Woolwich, and told her why he did so. He said it was for
robbing a gentleman on the 18th of January, of a £50 note another notes.
She said she was very sorry, and hoped witness would do the best he
could for her. He asked her what she had done with the money? She said
the young man who got the £50, and she change the £20 note to the
jeweller's shop in the London Road. She said she had given her own name
and address to the shopkeeper, where she changed the note. Witness went
next morning to that shop.
Not guilty.
Prosecutor asked his lordship for his expensive. His lordship said in a
very expressive manor said "certainly not."
Prosecutor is a man moving in a respectful sphere of life.
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From the Borough of Greenwich Free Press, 22
November, 1856.
COURT OF QUEENS BENCH.
(Before Mr. Justice Crompton, and a Common Jury.
Hobbs v. Corbett.
Mr. Serjeant Parry and Mr. Worslev, instructed by Messrs.
Bristow, appeared for the plaintiff; and Mr. Serjeant Shee, and Mr.
Woods, instructed by Mr. Binns, appeared for the defendant.
The declaration in this cause alleged that the plaintiff being a
contractor under the Board of Works for the district of Greenwich,
the defendant spoke certain false, scandalous, malicious, and
defamatory words, of and concerning the plaintiff in his capacity of
contractor.
The defendant pleaded "Not guilty."
It appeared from the statement of the plaintiff's counsel that he
was a paving contractor under the Board of Works for the Greenwich
district. In the month of August last, some stone, the property of
the board, had been stolen; two men in his employment were arrested
on suspicion, and taken before the magistrate on the 25th of August.
After the examination plaintiff went to the "Red Lion" public-house,
in company with a person named Thompson. There were two detective
policemen in the room.
Defendant came in the room and said, "It is a b------ shame that
the poor men should be in prison and the master out. He could prove
that the plaintiff had stolen 100 feet of stone from the parish, and
that he had got up at 5 o'clock in the morning and buried it in his
yard, and that he could prove it." These words formed the subject of
the present action. Plaintiff replied it was a gross accusation, and
he would appeal to the magistrate. He immediately went to the police
office, but Mr. Traill would not interfere; he then returned to the
"Red Lion." In his absence defendant had repeated the charge; the
result was that the constables went to plaintiffs yard to make
search, but they found nothing except two small pieces of Purbeck
stone, which Mr. Hughes, the district inspector had given to
plaintiff. The defendant had not since apologized or made any
retraction.
The plaintiff, Samuel Hobbs, was then examined. He stated that
after he left the police-office he met the inspector, who said "This
is a pretty report about you Mr. Hobbs." He then went into the "Red
Lion." He was telling Thompson what the inspector had just said,
when the defendant came in and said,
"It is a b----- shame that the two poor men should be in and the
master out," pointing to him, said, "you I mean." He told him it was
a gross accusation; that he had never stolen anything, and would not
let it rest. Defendant replied, "He did not care a d---; he could
prove everything he said." Thompson said it was time the plaintiff
did something. He immediately went to Mr. Traill, who, however,
refused to interfere. He returned to the "Red Lion." Defendant was
still there. Crouch the detective, informed him that after the
charge made by the defendant, he should search his premises. He said
he had no objection. He was about to propose it. They all went to
the yard. When they entered he pointed out two small pieces of
Purbeck-stone which Mr. Hughes had given him, and asked the
defendant to show out where the missing stone was. Defendant said he
did not know where it was, but the man who had unloaded the cart
knew, and that it was the constable’s business to find it out. He
then ordered the defendant to leave the yard. Nothing was found in
the yard. Defendant is a stonemason at Lewisham.
Cross-examined by Mr. Serjeant Shee:— The men against whom the
charge was made were in his employment. The old pavement had been
left lying along the road, and Mr. Hughes and he thought some of it
had been removed. He did not take any of it, except the two little
pieces of Purbeck-stone, which were removed in his cart. He told
Thompson that somebody had reported to the inspector that he had
stolen the stone. Defendant then used the words charged.
Mr. Hughes, the inspector to the Board of Works at Greenwich, was
present at the "Red Lion." The defendant said the men were in prison
for taking 100 feet of stone, but their master had the other 100,
and nothing done to him. He replied that he did not believe it, but
if it was true he would put the matter in the hands of the police.
After plaintiff left defendant told the constable that if he did not
search plaintiffs yard he would not be doing his duty; he
(defendant) could take him there and show the stone. After plaintiff
came back they went up to the yard. When he got there defendant said
he could not show where the stone was, but the carman knew all about
it. They searched the place, but could not find any. He remembered
having given the plaintiff the two pieces of Purbeck stone in
exchange for a little carting job.
Cross-examined:— He had not since discovered who took the stone.
The two police constables and Thompson, who were all present at
the transactions, were then examined. Their account did not vary
materially from that given by the other witnesses, but none of them
proved the use of the exact words laid in the declaration.
At the close of the plaintiffs case Mr. Serjeant Shee, submitted
that there was no proof of the declaration.
After some discussion, His Lordship expressed a hope that an
arrangement might be come to.
Mr. Serjeant Shee, on behalf of the defendant expressed his
conviction that there was not the slightest foundation for the
charge, and that the plaintiff left the court without any imputation
on his character.
A verdict was then taken for the plaintiff for 40s. with the
understanding that his Lordship should certify for costs.
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Orr's Kentish Journal, 14 June 1862.
POLICE INTELLIGENCE.
George Gorman, 50, a hawker, was charged with passing a counterfeit
half-crown at the house of Mr. C. Cox, "Red Lion," Greenwich, and
was remanded.
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From the Borough of Greenwich Free Press, 14 June, 1862.
George Goman, address refused, was remanded on a charge of passing
counterfeit money at the "Red Lion," Greenwich Road.
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LICENSEE LIST
BROWN George 1823-27+
SANDWELL Richard 1832-34+
JUTSUM John 1840+
CUBITT Thomas 1858+
COX William 1862-Sept/70
OVERTON Arthur H Sept/1870-71+ (age 39 in 1871)
WARREN William & Frederick James 1874+
PRATT Edward 1881+ (age 61 in 1881)
WARREN Frederick James 1882+
WARREN Elizabeth 1891-96+ (widow age 43 in 1891)
PERON William 1901-Feb/08
PERRY John Arthur 1908-14+
HOPKIN George Herbert 1919+
STEPHENS Fras 1938+
DONOVAN Denis C 1944+
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From the Pigot's Directory 1823
From the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34
Census
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