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PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1754-

Old Barn

Latest 1976+

(Name to)

331a High Street (and Brook)

Chatham

Old Barn 1965

Above photo circa 1965. Kindly sent by Jennifer Bilcher.

 

Up to and including 1874 the premises was listed as being at 189 High Street.

Changed name to the "Chequered Flag" some time in the late 1990s.

The Licensing Records of 1872 stated the premises held a Full License and was owned by Edward Winch of Chatham.

 

I will be adding the historical information when I find or are sent it, but this project is a very big one, and I do not know when or where the information will come from.

All emails are answered.

 

 

From the Derby Mercury 2 Jan 1756.

Chatham Dec 31st Entrenchments are going to be made round the dockyard for which purpose several officers and engineers are arrived and this morning all inhabitants from the end of Smithfield Bank beginning at the sign of the "Old Barn" and so on to Hill House are ordered to quit their houses in 30 days which are at the expiration of that time to be pulled down. The men belonging to the two regiments quartered here and at Maidstone are to work on these intended fortifications and are to be allowed 6d per diem over and above their proper allowance and tomorrow they will begin all the utensils etc being ready.

 

Sometime in the late 20th century (anyone have a date?) the "Old Barn" changed its name to the "Chequered Flag" and "Shades Bar," then in 2001 its name was changed again, becoming "Bar 21." In 2006 it finally closed down and became a Chinese Restaurant.

 

From the Kentish Gazette, Tuesday, 6 November, 1798.

Underwood.

To be sold by auction, by Green and Son, on Thursday, No. 8, 1798, between the hours of 12 and 2 in the afternoon, at Mr. Kitualer's, the sign of the "Old Barn," Chatham, the following piece or parcels of underwood, subject to such conditions of sale, as shall be then and there are produced.

Lot 1. Two and a half acres of underwood, more or less, growing in the woods called Luton Woods, in the parish of Chatham, being of 18 years growth.

Lot 2. Five acres of underwood, more or less growing in the woods called Luton Wood, in the parish of Chatham, being 15 years growth.

Particulars may be known by applying to Mr. Hayes, the wood reeve, near the sign of the "Hen and Chickens," at Luton, who will show the aforesaid underwoods.

 

From the Kentish Gazette 20 November 1838.

THE LATE MILITARY OUTRAGE AT CHATHAM — DEATH OF ANOTHER MARINE.

Since the former holding of the inquest another marine has fallen a victim to the ferocity of the assailants, and four others, named Ball, Jones, Lees, and Sheldrake, but particularly the two latter, still continue in a very bad state, although by the attention and exertion of the medical officers of the staff they are likely ultimately to recover. On Sunday week, about nine o’clock, Charles Jeffcott, another marine, breathed his last at the Melville Military Hospital, having sunk under the effects of extensive and violent erysipelas, arising from the injuries he received in the fatal attack. Eleven men are now in custody on the charge of being concerned in the outrage; three of them belong to the 74th regiment — namely, Joshua Sykes, Robert Farrell, and Robert Johnman; and the remaining eight belong to the 74th regiment — John Callaghan, Morris Lyons, Dennis Doyle, John Connell, John Noonan, Timothy Lawler, Bartholomew Brasner, and John Ninan. The following is a correct list of those dead and at present in the hospital:— Robert Ross, aged 31, dead; Charles Jeffcott, aged 24, dead; Robert Lees, 21, wounded severely; Thomas Sheldrake, aged 36, very severely; William Jones, 25, slightly; and George Ball, aged 20, slightly.

ADJOURNED INQUEST ON THE BODY OF JOHN ROSS.

On Monday, soon after ten o’clock, the prisoners were marched under a strong escort from the garrison barracks to the Melville Hospital, where the coroner, Richard Hinde, Esq. and the jury re-assembled.

The panel having been called over, the following evidence was adduced:— Josiah Power, a private of the royal marines, examined — I was in the tap-room of the "Old Barn" public-house on the evening of Saturday, the 27th ult., and heard John Callaghan, now present, say that he would "split the marines' skulls" that night. I and John Leeks went to the "Navy Arms." Nothing had previously passed between us and Callaghan’s party. The deceased (Robert Ross), James Barrett, Robert Grisnell, and another marine, who had his head cut, and is at present in the hospital, were playing at cards at a table and were drinking beer. In about 20 minutes a party of soldiers came in, consisting of 16 or 17. They were all armed with sticks, and they commenced striking the tables with them. The soldiers began dancing and swearing loudly. I got over the screen and made my escape. As I was doing so one of the soldiers struck at me and the blow fell upon my heel. The soldiers surrounded the marines, and struck at them indiscriminately, and I saw Callaghan strike the deceased (Ross) with the thick end of a clothes prop over the head. Rose fell, and I saw Callaghan then strike at him a second time. The second blow that was intended for Ross, hit the marine next to him. The first blow knocked Ross’s forage cap off, and I saw the blood fly from his head on to the table. I did not see any other person but Callaghan strike Ross. On the soldiers leaving the house, Leeks and myself got a bucket of water and washed Ross’s head, and cut his hair off from about the wound. We then tied a handkerchief round his head, and he was led to the hospital, while I and Leeks wiped up the blood that was standing in a pool a on the floor. [The witness was here desired to look particularly at the prisoners, and point out those that he saw there, he again pointed out Callaghan, and added that he saw most of the others there, but he could not identify them separately with certainty. The jury then directed the witness to go and see if he could identify the body of Ross, which was lying with that of Jeffcott in the dead house adjoining Melville Hospital. On his return he said the wound which was apparent on the head of Ross, was the same he saw inflicted by Callaghan.]

Cross-examined by Callaghan — I am positive the blow I have just seen upon Ross’s head was given by you.

Cross-examined by Brasner — I saw you at the "Navy Arms," as well as at the "Old Barn." You had a stick in your hand at both the houses.

By the Coroner — At the time Callaghan struck Ross he held the stick in both his hands, and wielded it with great force over his right shoulder.

The evidence of this witness differs as to the identity of the soldier who gave Ross the fatal blow, from the witnesses on the previous holding of the inquiry — all the witnesses examined on Saturday having sworn to the prisoner Connell, and not Callaghan.]

Robert Grisnell, another marine, gave a similar account of the attack as the preceding witness, and added that Ross remarked to the soldiers that they (the marines) wished to be quiet and not interfered with. Serjeant Rose soon after came in, and paid for a pot of beer, and gave to the soldiers, and endeavoured to prevail upon them to be quiet. The soldiers soon after got round the Serjeant, and witness heard some of the soldiers say, "Don’t strike him (meaning the serjeant; for he’s a good fellow." Morris Lyons it was that struck at Ross, and witness did not see any other person strike him then. Lyons struck Ross on the side of the head. The blow did not appear to have much effect upon him at first. Witness saw Lawler strike Farrer, a marine, as he was running out of the passage; and afterwards he saw Ross in the act of falling, as if he had received another blow.

William Rose, serjeant of the marines, said — On the evening of the 27th ultimo, upon my coming out of the "Crown and Thistle" public-house, at Chatham, I was told that there was "dreadful goings on at the "Navy Arms," and that they were killing the marines." I went there, and saw 18 or 20 soldiers, whom I treated with a pot of porter, and requested them to sit down or go home quietly to their barracks. The greater part of them were armed with bludgeons. They were endeavouring to raise a disturbance, and one of them seized hold of me and very cordially kissed me. They said they did not want to hurt me, but it was the "----- privates." I used all the means in my power to get them away or to restore order, but finding that all my efforts were ineffectual, I left the house for the purpose of getting a picquet, but my intentions were frustrated by a peace-officer calling upon me to aid, and assist in keeping the peace.

Captain Burton, of the royal marines, in the course of the day, complained to the reporter of the serious misrepresentation that had gone forth that the infuriated soldiers were accompanied by a serjeant of marines, and from which it would be inferred that he took part against the marines, whereas the fact was, that he went to the "Navy Arms" to try to restore order. The mis-statement has created considerable discussion in the military circles.

Henry King, a corporal of the royal marines, stated that he was at the "Navy Arms," and saw a soldier, whom he had not been able since to identify, come in with a stick in his hand, and threatened to break some of the marines’ skulls.

Robert Lees, one of the marines who was bludgeoned, and who is an inmate of Melville Hospital, was next called:— He appeared to be in a very weak and reduced state; he received a blow upon the shoulder, and was afterwards knocked down by one upon the head inflicted by Lawler. Immediately before that he saw Morris Lyons standing before the deceased Ross with a stick in his hand.

David Harris, a private of the royal sappers and miners, identified the prisoner, John Connell, as the soldier who struck the deceased; he also remembered seeing Farrell and Sykest striking at some of the marines in the passage.

George Howard, a constable of Chatham, stated that his attention was drawn to the "Navy Arms," on the 27th ult., by a party of soldiers armed with sticks running out of the house.

James Thomas Collins, porter at the Medway Union House, deposed to seeing Connell strike the deceased Ross, and to Ninan and Lawler being present at the time.

Dr. William Rae, head surgeon of Melville Hospital, stated that the deceased Robert Ross, had a contused wound an inch and a half in length, and a quarter of an inch in depth, extending over the paretal bone, on the right side of the head. He died on the sixth instant, about half-past five in the morning, erysipelas having taken place on the 30th ult., which extended from the wound over the face, head, neck, and upper parts of the breast and shoulders, and which continued to extend until his death took place. Witness had since made a post-mortem examination, and found that the body was generally healthy. Witness was of opinion that the deceased died from the wound on the head and the erysipelas extending over the head and body. It was such a wound as could have been indicted with a blunt instrument, such as a large stick or poker.

At half-past five o'clock the inquiry was adjourned until half-past 10 o'clock of Tuesday.

The prisoners were re-conducted to the guard-room under a strong escort.

TUESDAY. INQUEST RESUMED ON THE BODY OF ROSS

It has been the subject of observation that no person has been in attendance either from the Admiralty or the War-office to watch these proceedings.

Arthur Kift, the assistant surgeon of Melville Hospital, deposed that he saw the deceased between nine and ten o’clock on the night of the 27th ult. The wound was an inch and a half long, and of considerable depth. Two arteries were bleeding, which he secured by a ligature, and the bleedings soon after ceased. The bone was exposed by about half an inch, and after the wound was dressed the deceased was sent to bed.

Johannah Haddington was recalled, and being desired by the Coroner to look at all the prisoners she had not seen during her examination on Wednesday, she immediately pointed out three, named Johnman, Farrell, and Sykes, belonging to the 74th regiment, and who were not in custody when she gave her evidence on Wednesday. The prisoner Sykes had a thick stick in his hand, and he told Corporal King, who was present, that he wanted the stick to pound the ----- marines with. Sykes made use of these words while he was standing before the fireplace. Witness could not distinctly state whether Farrell was in uniform or undress.

The Coroner then desired the prisoners, eleven in number, to stand forward, and upon their doing so he explained to them that the present was only a preliminary inquiry. They were not upon their trial, but having heard all the evidence against them, they might, if they thought proper, make any statement that would explain any portion of the evidence, or bring forward witnesses on their behalf; at the same time it was his duty to caution them against adopting any course that would be prejudicial to them, as they were implicated in a very serious charge.

The prisoner Johnman then called John Shaw, who stated that Johnman was in the barracks with witness and another private of the 74th, playing at cards, from half-past five o’clock until a quarter before eight o'clock on the evening of the 27th ult. When the quarter-drum beat witness went to make his bed, and Johnman pulled off his jacket and proceeded to his own room.

By the Coroner:— While the quarter-drum was beating the prisoner have got out of the barracks.

Examination resumed:— There is a private of the 74th regiment named M'Gregor, about the same height and very much like Johnman.

By the Jury:— The soldiers were not allowed to play at cards in the barracks, but they got the corporal out of the room, and during his absence they had two or three games.

William Morris, a private of the 74th regiment, stated that he was in the barracks on the 27th ult., with Shaw and Johnman, who played with five or six others at cards. The prisoner Johnman slept in the same room with witness, and upon the quarter-drum beating Johnman went to his bed.

John Noonan, requested Mr. Budden, the landlord of the "Red Lion," to be sent for.

His son, William Budden, shortly afterwards entered the jury-room, and Nooman put a number of questions to him. The witness’s evidence did not materially benefit the prisoner, as he had no recollection of Noonan’s person, although he remembered some observations passing between himself and some soldiers, which Noonan repeated.

Noonan expressed a wish that Bines, the summoning officer, should be examined.

Bines was then sworn, but his testimony merely went to prove that he saw the prisoner in the "Red Lion," at twenty minutes after ten o’clock on Saturday evening, the 27th ult., about two hours and a half after the fatal attack.

The Coroner inquired if any of the other prisoners had any witnesses in attendance, and was answered in the negative. The learned gentleman next asked if the prisoners had a desire to add anything in their defence, and they all declined saying anything with the exception of Michael Farrell, who protested that he was quite innocent of what had been laid to his charge.

This concluding the case as far as regarded the deceased Robert Ross, the jury retired for a few minutes to take some refreshment.

Upon their return at three o'clock, the coroner commenced summing up. He remarked, that as there was a great mass of evidence which in some measure was contradictory, it would be necessary for him to go through the whole of it. The coroner then read the statements of the several witnesses who had been examined, which occupied a considerable time, and at the conclusion added, that the jury should calmly and deliberately weigh the evidence, and from that alone draw their conclusions. With regard to the offence that had been committed, it was one of a very serious and alarming character, if it was considered only in the light of an assault. But where a person struck a blow in this case, and that blow produced death, he had no hesitation in saying that that party was guilty of manslaughter. As to the idea of murder, the law on that head he did not think applied at all to this case. They would attentively weigh the evidence which had been adduced respecting the death of the unfortunate man, and also that which had been brought forward by some of the prisoners, and if the jury felt that there were any mitigatory circumstances, they would give the parties to whom they applied the benefit of them. They would first have to consider who was the principal in the first degree guilty of this offence, and secondly, who were the principals in the second degree, present, aiding, and abetting. The coroner then read the law applying to cases of this description, and concluded by observing that the jury should take care und return such a verdict as would satisfy the public mind, while at the same time it did justice to all parties.

After an absence of one hour and thirty-five minutes the jury returned into the inquest-room, and the foreman (addressing the coroner) said:— The jury have come to an unanimous verdict of Wilful Murder against John Callaghan, Morris Lyons, and John Connell (of the 67th), as principals; and against Joshua Sykes, Robert Farrell, and Robert Johnman (of the 74th), Dennis Doyle, Timothy Lawler, Bartholomew Brasner, and John Ninan (of the 67th), as aiders and abettors.

The remaining man, John Noonon (of the 67th), was the only man out of the eleven prisoners not included in the verdict.

The coroner then bound over the witnesses to attend and give evidence at the spring assizes against the prisoners, and made out their committals to Maidstone gaol, but it was believed that they would not be removed thither until after the inquest had sat upon the body of the other marine, named Jeffcott.

The proceedings did not terminate until six o’clock at night.

Inquest on Jeffcott.

An inquest was held, on Friday, on the body of Jeffcott, the second marine whose death is alleged to have been occasioned by the ill usage of certain soldiers. The evidence was in substance the same as that adduced in the former case, although the only soldier whom the witnesses attempted to identify was Joshua Sykes. The coroner, in summing up, remarked that he was of opinion that if the soldiers had meditated murder, they would have been differently armed; and he did not see that the jury should return a verdict to that effect. The evidence did not actually fix the guilt on any particular individual; but it was for them to decide how far the prisoner Sykes was guilty, and of what crime. The jury, after an absence of about half an hour, found a verdict of Wilful Murder against all the soldiers present in the disturbance on the night of the 27th of October, whose names are at present unknown to the jury, and that Joshua Sykes was present aiding and abetting.

 

South Eastern Gazette, 10 April, 1860.

COUNTY PETTY SESSIONS.

Monday. (Before W. Gladdish and J. Foord, Esqrs.)

William Smith, a shipwright in Chatham dockyard, was charged with robbing Ellen Dale, of a gold brooch and watch-guard, at the "Old Barn" public-house, High-street, where they had been all night.

Committed for trial, bail being accepted.

 

Dover Express, Friday 09 February 1906.

ROCHESTER. FORTY-FIVE HOUSES OBJECTED TO.

Objections have been lodged against no fewer than 45 licensed houses in the Rochester Division, on the ground that they are in excess of requirements. Last year 23 were objected to, and the Quarter Sessions approved the action of the Magistrates of the Division in nearly every case. Objection has also been served in the case of the "Old Barn Inn," Chatham, on the ground that it has a double entrance (High Street and the Brook.)

 

Above information from Ben Levick

The mention of the "Old Barn" in the above article suggest that this pub was originally in Smithfield Bank/the Brook. In looking into local pub licences I noticed that in 1754-5 William Bowls was listed as licensee of the "Old Barn" located in Chatham North Borough (this area covered the Brook north from King Street and the associated streets behind it, 'old Chatham' around the church and SW Brompton - Lower Wood Street, Middle Street, Westcourt Street and River Row). From 1756-61 he is still listed as landlord of the "Old Barn," but now in Middle Borough (approx the High Street and streets between there and the Brook from Globe Lane to the junction of the Brook and High Street, and the Brook and associated back streets from King Street to the High Street junction) although in 1756 the licence was issued as a new licence. This makes sense as the "Old Barn" remained in the High Street, at the eastern end (approximately opposite the end of Church St.), until the late 20th century. This suggests that when his property in the Brook was demolished, Mr. Bowls moved to new premises in the high street to continue his business. Presumably he was not the only resident of 'old Chatham' to do this.

This information may also help solve another Brook/Smithfield Bank mystery and in the process give an exact location for the original Old Barn. I noticed in mid 19th century records that the old "Army and Navy" pub in the Brook (later "Churchills," now just called The Brook) was always listed as no.7 the Brook (even before Chatham's renumbering c.1879/80), but I found no maps showing lower numbered buildings on the site later occupied by the Town Hall. This might suggest that the "Old Barn" was situated on the corner of Whiffens Avenue and the Brook where the town hall now stands, and would have been No.5 The Brook.

 

From an email received 21 February 2015.

My parents were tenants of this public house (Mr & Mrs Clifford, Albert Jones and Lydia, Sarah Jones) just before it became known as the "Chequered Flag."

It was a courage house at the time. My father was quite active in the early days representing the local publicans interest at courage brewery meetings.

We lived there from 1966 until 1976 and it was called the "Old Barn".

The smaller bar to the rear of the property was not used by my father at the time. I often used to play there. It looked like time had stood still back there, lots of old wood, original beer pumps etc.

I do have at least one photo of the pub while we lived there. I will find it and scan it to send to you for your research.

I think my father also spoke of another name used for this pub was the "Coach & horses" in the past.

I know another "Coach & Horses" also existed they were further along from us towards Luton arches. Where Tescos now stands.

I would also be interested in finding out whether our pub was actually standing when Charles Dickens lived in the Brook after leaving 2 Ordnance Terrace. Sometime between 1812 and 1817. I know he often returned to Chatham, it brought back fond memories to him, as it does to me. The dockyard was still thriving in the late 60's early 70's and we were a naval pub. My father collected ship plaques (many hung behind the bar) and had a good relationship with the Navy customers.

Our home, the living area beyond the bar and upstairs had a special atmosphere for me. We had open fireplaces on every floor and sash windows. We would sit looking down on the highstreet from our bedroom windows on summer evenings enjoying watching the people passing by. Some of course commenting to us. We also watched Easter parades from the same windows. My bedroom, shared with my younger sister was the one on the right in the picture on the second floor. We used the first floor on this side of house as one big "Playing room" we had 2 pianos in it and some odd bits and pieces. The loft was quite spooky and I didn't much like going up the last flight of stairs. We even dared to sit on the roof sometimes again in summer with our cousin. Not that our parents knew of course. We climbed out a side window in the attic room to the left of picture and sat behind some concrete balcony posts. Extremely dangerous I'm sure. The cellar was absolutely spooky. My mother refused to go down into it on her own late at night. You could people pass by over the wooden delivery doors outside on the pavement.

Jennifer Bilcher.

 

LICENSEE LIST

BOWLES William 1754-61

DAVIS Gideon 1762-63+

MORYLS Benjamin 1793+ Trade Directory 1793

KITUALER Mr 1798+

STREETER E R 1828+ Pigot's Directory 1828-29

ESSINHIGH Rowland S 1832+ Pigot's Directory 1832-34 (180 High Street)

PAYNE George 1840+

BLACKMAN Richard John 1858-79+ (age 47 in 1871Census) Licensing Records 1872

HODSELL James G 1881-82+ (age 36 in 1881Census)

BRUNT William 1891+

HOBART Harry 1901-03+ (age 36 in 1901Census) Kelly's 1903

HUDSON Alfred Ernest 1911-13+ (age 33 in 1911Census)

DENTON Alfred 1922+

McBRIDE John 1930+

PUGH John 1938+

JONES Clifford Albert 1966-76

https://pubwiki.co.uk/OldBarn.shtml

http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/oldbarn.html

 

Trade Directory 1793Universal British Directory of Trade 1793

Pigot's Directory 1828-29From the Pigot's Directory 1828-29

Pigot's Directory 1832-34From the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34

Licensing Records 1872Licensing Records 1872

CensusCensus

Kelly's 1903From the Kelly's Directory 1903

 

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