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PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1364

Red Lion

Latest 2024+

Crockham Lane

Hernhill

01227 751207

http://theredlionhernhill.co.uk/

https://whatpub.com/red-lion

Red Lion 1900

Above photo, 1900, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Red Lion 1906

Above postcard, 1906.

Red Lion 1910

Above photo circa 1910.

Red Lion 1925

Above photo, 1925, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Red Lion group 1942

Above photo, circa 1942. Kindly sent by Crispin Whiting who says the following:-

Floral print frocks and uniforms outside the Red Lion in the early years of World War II. The name above the door is Obadiah Fowle, who was born in 1864, and ran the pub between 1906 and 1941 or '42. He is the gentleman in front of the doorway and this may well have been a retirement celebration with family. He would have been 77 in 1941. The pub was taken on by Horace Rose in September 1942.

Obadiah appears a fair few times in the Faversham News dealing with difficult customers. In 1906, Fred Gibbs was charged with snatching 10s 6d from the till. His wife Ellen witnessed the theft, and Obadiah chased Gibbs up the road and held him until the police arrived.

In 1911, Harry Christian was charged with being drunk and disorderly and refusing to quit licensed premises when requested.

"PC Friend stated that about 7.30 Monday evening he found the prisoner under the influence of drink and in the company of three women. As the women promised to get him away, the policeman gave the prisoner another chance and let him go. At ten o'clock, however, he was called again and found Christian with a crowd around him. He said he had a revolver and threatened to shoot. PC Friend searched him but found no firearms. He then took him into custody.

"Obadiah Fowle, the landlord, said the prisoner came to his house the worse for drink at about nine o'clock. He refused to serve him and asked him to leave. He declined, and threatened to do some damage with a large stick he was carrying. Obadiah put him out of the house three times. Supt. Gaunt stated that the prisoner formerly lived at Hernhill. For the last two years he had been in London but at present he had no fixed abode. For the first offence Christian was sentenced to seven days' hard labour; for the second he was fined £1, with 8s. costs, in default another seven day's hard labour."

Red Lion 1950s

Above photo 1950s by Chris Talbot.

Red Lion 1950

Above photo 1950, kindly sent by Susan Northrop.

Red Lion 1950

Above photo 1950, kindly sent by Susan Northrop.

Red Lion 1953

Above photo, 1953, kindly sent by Tim Timpson.

Red Lion 1953

Above photo, 1953, kindly sent by Tim Timpson.

Red Lion 1954

Above photo 1954, kindly sent by Susan Northrop, showing her father Richard John Rose.

Red Lion 1970

Above photo, 1970, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Red Lion 1988

Above photo, 1988, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Red Lion 2010

Above photo 2010 by Oast House Archives Creative Commons Licence.

Red Lion 2012

Above photo 2012.

Red Lion 2019

Above photo April 2019, kindly sent by Garth Wyver.

Above photo, 2024, kindly taken and sent by Michael Harris.

Red Lion sign 2024

Above sign, 2024, kindly taken and sent by Michael Harris.

Red Lion beer-mat 1955

Above beer-mat circa 1955. Kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Noah Miles 1891

Above photo showing Noah Miles, 1891, kindly sent by Francis Holliday.

 

OLD KENT HOSTELRIES. 1928.

"THE RED LION," HERNHILL.

Red Lion 1928

Hernhill, in the centre of the rolling downs, is a delightful village near the Blean wood’s, and full of orchards which in a few weeks will be a fairyland of blossom. As one comes from Watling Street, on the north side of the picturesque village green, facing the church, is the "Red Lion." There is no doubt that the fine substantial old building dates back to the Fourteenth Century, and doubtless was at one time a beautiful old half-timbered house. It has now been made to suit the conveniences of modern times and has a plastered front. Two wings project each side of the old hostelry and the eaves of the fine roof are supported with brackets. The massive joists carrying the roof tiles are old oak, while the tiles themselves are attached with oak pins.

The interior contains many fine sturdy oak beams, and to suit modern necessities many alterations have been made, and a number of beams have had to be covered up. At the rear of the "Red Lion" the walls are covered with weather-beaten tiles, and just beyond the back entrance is an ancient well which, by the way, is still in use. The license of the "Red Lion" dates back many years, at least some four hundred.

 

Kentish Gazette, 27 January 1857.

HERNHILL. CHILD MURDER.

A young married couple, named Collyer, have recently left this village as government emigrants for Australia; and soon after their departure a report was set afoot that the woman had left behind a murdered child of her own, of which her husband was not the father. In consequence inquiries were instituted, and sufficient ascertained to justify a coroner’s inquiry — the body having been brought forward by the grandmother, who admitted that her daughter had it and strangled it. An inquest was instituted on Thursday last, before Mr. Delasaux, at the "Red Lion," Hernhill, when the following details were elicited:—

Charlotte Butcher, who was the first witness, deposed that she was a widow, residing in the parish of Hernhill. She knew the body of the female infant now produced; it was born of Amelia, the wife of William Collyer, on the evening of Friday, the 9th instant, at her (witness’s) house, situate at Waterham, near Hernhill. At the time the child was born she was in a lower room of the house; and the same evening, between the hours of six and seven, she saw the deceased lying under the clothes by the side of the mother. She believed it was then alive. Witness observed a piece of string round the neck of the infant, and asked its mother how it came there? She replied, "The child was born alive, and I took my garter and tied it round its neck; for it docs not belong to William (meaning her husband), and I should never hear the last of it." Witness said, "You are a wicked girl — how can I stop here where you are?" when she answered, "Don’t you make any trouble, mother; we must pray to the Lord to forgive us." Witness then went down stairs to get a pair of scissors, for the purpose of cutting the navel string, but when she got back the mother of the deceased had broken it. The mother then wrapped the body of the infant in her flannel petticoat, and witness placed it under the bed, where it remained all night. On the following morning she put it into a closet in an adjoining room, where it was left till Tuesday, the 20th inst. On that day, inquiry being made relative to its sudden disappearance, she produced it to Mrs. Overy. She delivered it to the constable, who removed it from her house. The mother of deceased left witness’s house on Monday, the 12th inst., for the purpose of going with her husband to Australia. The mother of the child informed her that she had placed her apron round its head and tied the strings about its neck after it was dead. On the Monday morning, just before she left her house, witness said to her, "How can I stop here with that child in the house?" when she answered, "Don’t make it any trouble; put it into a basket, put some clothes over it, and bury it down in the garden after I am gone."

Susanna, wife of John Overy, lived under the same roof with Charlotte Butcher, and on Monday, the 12th instant, had some conversation with her, when she said Amelia (meaning her daughter, Amelia Collyer) had had a loss. On Tuesday evening last she went into the house of the last witness, at her request, and she said, "I wonder whether it is buried in the garden?" They both went and looked there, and then returned into the house. Shortly afterwards she said to her, "If you will stop with me I will fetch it down; it is in the house." She then left the room, went up stairs, and brought down the body of the deceased, placing it before the fire. She then untied the apron which was wrapped round the body, and witness saw a piece of string round its neck, which she took off and threw into the fire. Witness asked her — "However could you have it done?" but she made no reply. In about half an hour, afterwards the constable came to the house, and she gave the child to him."

William Smith, constable, stated that in consequence of certain reports he, with other persons, searched for the body of the deceased. At about half past six o’clock in the evening he received the body from the last witness, Mrs. Butcher being also present. It was then in the same state as when the surgeon examined it.

Robert Swindford Francis, of Houghton, surgeon, deposed that on Tuesday evening he saw the body of the female child that day viewed by the jury, wrapped in a cloth, with an apron round its head, the string of which was twice round its neck. It appeared to have been dead about a week or ten days, was of mature growth, and had every appearance of being a nine mouths’ child. The lower extremities were free from marks of violence, but the hands were clenched, and the head, face, and neck were very contused, swollen, and livid; the tongue protruded, and round the neck was a well defined indented impression with considerable redness and ecchymosis. Witness opened the body, and on examining the chest he found the viscera healthy; the lungs filled the chest, cupudated, and then passed and floated on water. From all this he was led to believe that the child was born alive; or, at all events, that respiration had been fully established. He next examined the head, and under the sculp was a great extravasation of blood, and the brain and vessels were greatly congested. From the livid appearance of the face, head, and neck, congestion of the brain, and extravasation of blood on the surface, combined with the indented impression round the neck, he believed the child died from strangulation produced by ligature.

The Coroner summed up, and said that the evidence of the surgeon would not of itself be conclusive as to the child having been born alive; but if they believed the evidence of the mother, they could do nothing else but return a verdict of wilful murder against the mother of the deceased.

The jury retired, and having consulted about a quarter of an hour, returned a verdict of "Wilful Murder" against Amelia Collyer.

A warrant was made out, and entrusted to Superintendent Green, for the apprehension of the woman, who was then with her husband, believed to be on board a ship lying in the Downs, preparatory to sailing.

It is said that Collyer, who is a very young man, is not the father of the child, and that he is quite ignorant of the suspicious circumstances connected with its death. He was married at Michaelmas last, and previously to her marriage his wife had been living as a servant in Margate. It also appears that she had before been delivered of an illegitimate child, which had died a natural death. The statements of the grandmother, who does not bear a very good character in the village, are contradictory as to the death of the child, but the last statement to which she adheres is that the mother strangled it immediately after it was born.

It turns out that the ship in which the accused had taken berth with her husband was not in the Downs, but was lying at Yarmouth, with 20 more vessels windbound, and; there she was found with her husband. Sergeant Leigh, of Lymington, who was despatched on board on the receipt, of the intelligence by the borough police, told the woman of the charge which she did not deny, and be consequently immediately conveyed her to Southampton, on Friday night, and on Saturday she was brought thence in custody. The husband was left on board the ship as the warrant did not mention him.

We understand that the mother (Mrs. Butcher) will be charged as an accessory after the fact — it not being in the power of the Coroner to deal with others than principals and accessories before the fact.

 

From the Your Shepway, 15 December 2012.

Savour the Lion traditional country Christmas menu.

ON the village green opposite the church, the black-beamed, white-walled Red Lion could well be the perfect English-postcard image.

Located in the picturesque village of Hernhill, the warm, cosy atmosphere at the Lion will make you want to stay all day and all night.

With the traditional log-fires, live entertainment and quality home-cooked food, this free house has something for everyone.

Out in the garden there is an enclosed children's play area, while there is also a sunny front patio on which to sit and enjoy a relaxing meal or cool drink during the summer.

These great features make the pub a desirable location for families, not to mention big celebrations, with parties often catered for, or even just a bit of romance.

There is a wide selection of real ales available at the bar and the pub is renowned for holding real-ale festivals on the village green throughout the year. There is also a good selection of wines and beers for every taste.

For food The Red Lion offers a good choice of meals from the a la carte menu. The specials change with the seasons to use the right ingredients at the right time of year.

The team has recently launched its new Taste of Kent menu, serving dishes and ingredients sourced within just a couple of miles of the pub.

Food is served daily Monday to Saturday from midday to 2.30pm and 6pm to 9pm. On Sunday it is served from midday to 8pm.

Christmas-party booking is also now available - so book now to avoid disappointment!

The pub will be open on New Year's Eve and feature live music as well as a D J throughout the night. It will stay open from 7pm to late and entry is free.

The Christmas menu will feature the traditional dishes like roast turkey with all the trimmings, but a number of other choices also appears.

Example menu: To start, perhaps try the smoked-duck-and-orange salad or classic prawn cocktail.

The mains could be a choice from a number of options including bronzed turkey served with potatoes roasted in dripping and vegetables or tender pork belly stuffed with the Red Lion stuffing topped with a cider-and-grated-apple sauce and roast potatoes.

Try a board of the local cheeses to finish, or get very festive with the traditional Christmas pudding covered with brandy butter.

The Red Lion, Crockham Lane, Hernhill ME13 9JR (phone 01227 751207, website www.theredlion.org)

 

LICENSEE LIST

MILES Noah 1851-58+ (age 50 in 1861Census)

KNOWLER William Noah 1871-82+ (age 40 in 1881Census)

SADDLETON Celia 1891+ (age 49 in 1891Census)

HAZLEWOOD Harry 1901-03+ (age 34 in 1901Census) Kelly's 1903

FOWLE Obadiah 1906-41+ (age 47 in 1911Census)

ROSE Horace 1942-1953

CHAPMAN Edna 1953+

GREY Jim late 1970s+ Next pub licensee had

WHITE Michael (owner) 2021+

https://pubwiki.co.uk/RedLion.shtml

 

Kelly's 1903From the Kelly's Directory 1903

CensusCensus

 

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