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Sort file:- Hythe, February, 2019.

Page Updated:- Monday, 04 February, 2019.

PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1828-

Duke's Head

Closed 2016

9 Dymchurch Road

Hythe

https://whatpub.com/dukes-head

Duke's Head 1983

Above photo taken 31 August 1983, kindly sent by Chris Excell.

Above photograph and sign below right by Paul Skelton 9 June 2013.

Duke's Head

Above showing the side view. Photo taken by Patricia Streater, 10 June 2013

Duke's Head sign 1991Duke's Head sign 2013

Duke's Head sign left March 1991. Sign right June 2013.

Above with thanks from Brian Curtis www.innsignsociety.com

Duke's Head card 1951

Above aluminium card issued June 1951. Sign series 3 number 13.

 

From http://www.folkestoneherald.co.uk 1 December 2014. By Amy Woodland.

Plans to convert pub into housing move closer.

TOWN councillors have given their support to a plan to convert the Duke's Head pub into housing, due to tough economic times.

The owners of the Hythe pub have applied for permission to change the use of the main Grade II-listed, early 19th century building to three homes and for an outbuilding to become a separate dwelling.

It is the second time plans to redevelop the pub have come before the council. In April last year the town council said they would support a change of use if the owners could show that the business was no longer viable.

A report by chartered building surveyors, Godden Allen Lawn, submitted as part of the application, states: "Obviously the proximity of Sainsbury's with supermarket prices and offers has had an adverse affect, but even so the neighbourhood has five public houses and two subsidised clubs in total competing for the same dwindling customer base."

It adds that while the business keeps its "head above water" it does not generate enough to pay for renovations that are needed and reveals that attempts to sell the business as a going-concern have so far been unsuccessful.

At a meeting last Tuesday, councillors on Hythe Town Council's plans and works committee agreed to support the conversion of the Dymchurch Road pub.

The plans submitted as part of the application also propose the demolition of garages in the car park of the pub to make way for four flats, but town councillors were only asked to comment on the listed building consent on Tuesday.

Cllr David Own said: "We sent this back because we needed confirmation that the business was not viable. I think we have that now."

He said he had "grave concerns" about putting flats on the site but added: "On the basis of what is here I am happy to agree this proposal."

Cllr Malcolm Dearden said: "I can remember when it was a very busy pub.

"Although I regret the loss of the Duke's Head to the town, people are not going out like they used to. Therefore I agree that this is all they can do."

Shepway District Council will make the final decision and has a target decision date of December 16 for both the listed building consent and the planning application for the pub.

 

From http://www.ghostpubs.com accessed 17 June 2015.

HAUNTED.

At this most ancient of ports, with close to the canal, the Dukes Head exhibits ghostly manifestations. These include an old man called George. He has been given that name by employees who have ‘met' him, since his history is unknown. Locals know George manifests on regular occasions, with strolls around in a most benign manner. Hythe is one of the Cinque Ports, with although it is on a broad bay of the English Channel, silting removed its harbour three centuries ago.

 

From an email 17 June 2015.

There seems to be a lot of comment about the pub being haunted – my mother, age 91 daughter of H T Membrey, says she knows nothing about this and certainly “George” wasn't in existence when she lived there.

Harry Thomas Membrey was married to Lottie and they ran the pub together.

Kind regards,

Lesley Quinn.

 

From an email 2 June 2016.

The pub as run 1975-1990 possibly longer by Betty & Bernard Hamilton. I stayed there many times and stories of a ghost never surprised me.

On the day they took over the pub, the previous tenants had seemingly just got out of bed and walked out the door, personal possessions left in every room!

I'm not often in Kent but went to have a look the other day. Looks like it's been closed for a while and the owners want to convert to residential. Another pub gone!

John Beecham.

 

 

According to John Beecham, the pub has been closed for some time. (4 June 2016)

Latest news from Sylvia Thomas tells me that the pub is likely to be turned into housing. (January 2018).

 

From the https://www.kentonline.co.uk By Molly Mileham-Chappell, 20 April 2018.

Grade II listed former pub Dukes Head in Hythe on the market for £1 million.

Mystery surrounds the future of a former boozer after it was put up for sale with a huge price tag.

The "Dukes Head" site on Dymchurch Road in Hythe has been slapped with an on-application guide price of £1 million.

The dilapidated pub, which dates back to the early 19th Century, was in operation until 2016 but has been left empty since its closure.

Duke's Head 2018

The Dukes Head on Dymchurch Road (1506394)

The venue is deemed to be historically important and was first listed as a Grade II property in 1950.

It's sale is being advertised as a freehold property through London-based estate agents Alex Neil.

The property is described on the estate agent website as: "A former Public house, set within a large plot located on the edge of a large residential area.

"The development is of brick construction under a pitched tile roof and is understood to be Grade II listed.

"This is a redevelopment opportunity to potentially convert the existing buildings into a multiple mixed unit residential development.

"It could also be considered as mixed use development, all subject to planning permission (STPP)."

It means any proposed development regarding the future of the site will have to be in keeping with some of the building's original features, limiting the scope for what it could be transformed into.

However, subject to planning permission, the site has potential for uses such as apartments, or a bar or café and suitable applications could be considered by Folkestone and Hythe District Council (FHDC).

A FHDC spokesman said: "Obviously we could consider any planning applications that are put forward by the buyer, but until then, it is not our place to speculate."

In 2014, when the building was still a drinking establishment, an application to turn the site into three properties, as well as convert the barn into another, while erecting a two storey block of self contained flats was refused.

The decision was on the grounds that it "would result in the loss of an existing social and community facility and it has not been satisfactorily demonstrated in the application that there is no longer a need for the facility and that it is unsuitable for adaptation into a viable enterprise."

At the time, one objector John Carpenter commented: "This pub is an asset of community value. Pubs are under threat throughout the UK and local authorities have a duty to protect what is a vital part of our cultural heritage."

In February last year, FHDC, then known as Shepway, granted permission for the development on the land for a roof extension and other external alterations to convert the outbuilding for residential use.

Listed building consent was also given for the alterations o the basis that work would begin within three years, but the property is now on sale.

 

LICENSEE LIST

KING Thomas 1828+ Pigot's Directory 1828-29

WARRINGTON John 1832-39+ Pigot's Directory 1832-34Pigot's Directory 1839

CLARK William 1847-55+ (age 42 in 1851Census) Bagshaw's Directory 1847(55 Publicans directory)

FOSTER James 1858+ Melville's 1858

KEMP Thomas 1862+ Post Office Directory 1862 (fly proprietor)

BAKER Richard 1881-82+ (age 41 in 1881Census) Post Office Directory 1882

BAKER Mrs Sarah Ann 1899+ Kelly's 1899

DRAY Pearson Henry 1905+ (London Gazette)

TUTT George 1913+ Post Office Directory 1913

TAYLOR George 1922+ Post Office Directory 1922

CLEMENTS Mrs Emily Sophia 1930+ Post Office Directory 1930

SWIFT John 1934+

MEMBREY Harry Thomas 1938+ Post Office Directory 1938

HAMILTON Bernard & Betty 1975-90

http://pubshistory.com/DukesHead.shtml

 

Pigot's Directory 1828-29From the Pigot's Directory 1828-29

Pigot's Directory 1832-34From the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34

Pigot's Directory 1839From the Pigot's Directory 1839

Bagshaw's Directory 1847From Bagshaw Directory 1847

CensusCensus

Melville's 1858From Melville's Directory 1858

Post Office Directory 1862From the Post Office Directory 1862

Post Office Directory 1882From the Post Office Directory 1882

Kelly's 1899From the Kelly's Directory 1899

Post Office Directory 1913From the Post Office Directory 1913

Post Office Directory 1922From the Post Office Directory 1922

Post Office Directory 1930From the Post Office Directory 1930

Post Office Directory 1938From the Post Office Directory 1938

 

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