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PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1847-

(Name from)

Jolly Gardener's

Latest 1938+

3 Northgate Street / Cold Harbour Lane

Canterbury

Jolly Gardener's

Above photo kindly sent by Robert Smith. Date unknown.

Jolly Gardener's 1961

Above photo kindly sent by Robert Smith. Date unknown.

Jolly Gardener's 1935

Above photo 1935 kindly sent by Robert Smith and Tim Timpson.

Jolly Gardeners 1930

Above photo, 1930, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Vicinity of Jolly Gardener's

Above picture from Google, March 2009, shows the area in which I believe the "Jolly Gardener's used to be. The building shown, right, is addresses number 2 Northgate.

Robert Smith says the following:- Unfortunately you have the location of the pub slightly out. Whilst the address is correct at No. 3 Northgate the pub was located on the site of where the Cold Harbour Flats currently stand and was on the corner of Northgate and Cold Harbour Lane (which no longer exists).

The above photo shows the same location as the photo on your site - from left to right are house numbers 14, 13, 12 and 11. I understand that No. 11 was once a Victorian Pub.

In the above photo to the far right you can just make out the yellow brick of Cold Harbour flats which would have been the site of the Jolly Gardener. The buildings seen were demolished in 1983 and sat in front of the Sainsbury's car park.

 

Traced from between 1858 and 1938, I believe this area was heavily damaged in world war 2 and demolished shortly afterwards. Today it is used as the Northgate short stay car park.

However, notes found on the "Poem of Canterbury" sheet says that the pub used to be the "Queen's Arms" until about 1867.

 

From The Advertiser, Saturday 2 September, 1882.

CANTERBURY. DISCOVERY OF THE BODY OF A CHILD.

On Monday afternoon the body of a newly born child was discovered in the River Stour at Cold Harbour, Canterbury. It was tied up in some sacking in which a stone had been placed; and it was brought to the surface through the pole of a boat coming in contact with it. The body was discovered by two boys named Bligh, who were going down the river in a boat. On Tuesday evening the City Coroner, Dr. T. S. Johnson held an inquest at the "Jolly Gardener Inn," Northgate, on the body.

After hearing the medical testimony of Mr. C. Holttum, who gave his opinion that the child had not had a separate existence, and that no marks of violence were apparent, the jury returned an open verdict of "Found Drowned."

The matter, we understand, is in the hands of the police, but no clue of the mother has yet been traced.

 

LICENSEE LIST

GOLDSMITH Charlotte D 1847+ Bagshaw's Directory 1847

STROUD Thomas 1858-68+ Melville's 1858Post Office Directory 1862(Greens Canterbury Directory 1868 St. Peter Street)

STROUD Hannah 1871+ (widow age 45 in 1871Census)

CROFTS John 1874+ Post Office Directory 1874

GURNEY E 1868+ Greens Canterbury Directory 1868

MANNING Walter Charles 1881-91+ CensusPost Office Directory 1882Post Office Directory 1891 (age 21 in 1881Census)

UDEN J E 1903-13+ Post Office Directory 1903Kelly's 1903Post Office Directory 1913

SMITH William 1922-30+ Post Office Directory 1922Post Office Directory 1930

MURTON Henry James 1938+ Post Office Directory 1938

https://pubwiki.co.uk/JollyGardeners.shtml

 

Bagshaw's Directory 1847From Bagshaw Directory 1847

Melville's 1858From Melville's Directory 1858

Post Office Directory 1862From the Post Office Directory 1862

Greens Canterbury Directory 1868Greens Canterbury Directory 1868

Post Office Directory 1874From the Post Office Directory 1874

CensusCensus

Post Office Directory 1882From the Post Office Directory 1882

Post Office Directory 1891From the Post Office Directory 1891

Post Office Directory 1903From the Post Office Directory 1903

Kelly's 1903From the Kelly's Directory 1903

Post Office Directory 1913From the Post Office Directory 1913

Post Office Directory 1922From the Post Office Directory 1922

Post Office Directory 1930From the Post Office Directory 1930

Post Office Directory 1938From the Post Office Directory 1938

 

If anyone should have any further information, or indeed any pictures or photographs of the above licensed premises, please email:-

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