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PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Barry Smith and Paul Skelton

Earliest 1902

King Edward VII

Closed 2010

1 Goschen Road

Dover

King Edward VII 1920

Above photo from the John Gilham collection, circa 1920.

King Edward VII outing

TWO FINE horse-brakes in Goschen Road, Tower Hamlets, apparently about to set off  on an all-male outing of the King Edward VII "Judge and Jury Club," practically everyone wearing a button-hole while four wear clown outfits. Others carry musical instruments. In front towards the left one member appears to be wearing a chain of office and holds a quill pen and inkwell.

Members of the King Edward VII Club

Above showing the members of the "King Edward VII" Club, date unknown.

The following email received 8 August 2014, says the following:- The portly gentleman in the lighter suit with the hat is my Great great grandfather William Henry Rodgers, the first landlord of the pub. This dates the photo between 1902-06. Hope this helps.

Kind regards,

Gary Rodgers.

King Edward VII circa 1980

Above photo circa 1980 photo by Barry Smith.

King Edward VII circa 1980

Above photo circa 1980 by Barry Smith.

Above photo, 1996, kindly sent by Michael Lock.

King Edward VII circa 1987

King Edward VII circa 1987 (Photo Paul Skelton)

From the Dover Express and East Kent News. 2 December, 1955.

SCHOOLS BROKEN INTO

Public House, Too

Thieves broke into two Dover schools during the week-end. On Monday morning returning staff found that St. Martin's School and Astor School had been entered and in each case a small amount of money was stolen. At St. Martin's School teachers' desks were broken open and overturned.

On Sunday, the "King Edward VIIth" public house in Goschen Road was broken into and a little money stolen.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News. 15 February, 1963.

Tower Hamlets Young Wives 1963

Young Wives of Tower Hamlets at their party at the King Edward VII, on Saturday.

 

A licence application by George Beer in 1900, for a house he proposed building on the corner with Wyndham Road, at a provisional cost of 2,000, was rejected. He had offered to surrender the "Marquis of Waterford" but nine other licensed houses already plied their trade in Tower Hamlets.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 30 August, 1901. Price 1d.

ANNUAL LICENSING DAY

A TOWER HAMLETS APPLICANT

Mr. Rutley Mowll applied for a provisional licence on behalf of Mr. W. C. Newton Chapman at Devonshire Road, Tower Hamlets. He remarked that he was afraid that he had to contend with the opposition of the teetotallers, but he understood the Licensed Victuallers did not oppose.

Mr. Aldington observed that his attitude was one of benevolent neutrality. (Laughter.)

Mr. Mowll said it would be remembered that he made the application for a licence at the Tower Hamlets Estate last year, but the Bench were apparently of opinion that the application was a little premature. He came before them this year very much strengthen in making the application because of the number of house built in the locality and the number of plots sold which would be shortly built upon. In fact a new Dover was cropping up at the back of Tower Hamlets. His clients were prepared to give up a fully licensed house, the “Royal Oak,” Oxenden Street. He thought the transference of the licence from that neighbourhood would be a benefit to the community.

Mr. W. J. Jennings, architect, produced plans of the estate, showing the position of the proposed public house. The only house in the neighbourhood was the “Dewdrop.” In addition to the houses built, 48 plots had been sold, and since the application last year, 50 to 60 houses had been built, and a large number of plots were shortly to be sold. He also produced plans of proposed houses. The cost of it was estimated at 2,000.

Cross-examined by Mr. Bradley. The plot of land was in Goschen Road. There were no houses in the road yet, and the road had not been made up. The nearest road was Devonshire Road, and there were 41 houses there. The whole of them were put up since the last application. Some other houses had been put up in Douglas Road. Half of that road was nearest the “Dewdrop.” There were several other houses in Tower Hamlets within a quarter of a mile.

A memorial signed by every resident on the estate was put in.

Mr. M. Bradley called the Rev. E. G. L. Mowbray, Vicar of St. Bartholomew's, who said the site of the house was within his parish. He considered the gathering of the licence neither necessary or desirable. There were already nine houses in the Tower Hamlets District.

Cross-examined by Mr. Mowll. Under certain circumstances he would not oppose an application for a licence. There would have to be considerably more houses built before he would not oppose. He would not state the number as it might bind him to another year. (Laughter.)

Mr. Bradley put in a memorial signed by 79 persons against.

 

Mr. Bradley, in addressing the Bench in opposition to the applications, said that he would deal first of all with the new application, which would require very few words. He then came to the three applications which were really a repetition of the applications refused last year. They all had one objection, they were premature, or, to apply an American term, they were previous. In each case they heard a great deal about plots being sold. That showed the weakness of the applications. It showed that the houses which were to be supplied had not yet been built. It was time for the licensed top be granted after the houses had been erected on the plots mentioned as having been sold, and until then they ought not to be granted. As regards Mr. Chapman's application, he did not think it was in such a suitable locality as the one preceding it. There was not a single house erected in the road in which the licence was asked for. Surely this was premature; it could not be necessary to grant a licence to a house in a road where there was no other houses.

The Magistrates then retired, and after an absence of three minutes returned.

The Chairman said: The Magistrates have considered these applications, and have come to the conclusion that they will grant the application of Mr. Chapman, on condition that the houses proposed to be surrendered be given up.

This was all the business.

 

A second try by Newton Chapman was presented in 1901. That time the surrender of the "Royal Oak" in Oxenden Street was suggested. Forty one houses had meanwhile been erected in Devonshire Road as well as others in Douglas Road so he was favoured. A slight alteration in the site though, to the corner with Devonshire Road.

 

The opening was in 1902, the licensee William Henry Rogers, and the pub now serves Whitbread.

 

Jimmy Cairns relinquished this post to gradually move closer to town and after a number of pubs eventually ended up as landlord of the "Dewdrop." Larger than life Bowler hatted character, he stood for election as  Conservative candidate and was mayor of Dover between 1937 and 1943.

 

From an article 'Colourful Characters From Dover Past' by Shirley Harrison. Unknown date.

"JIMMY CAIRNS" - "FRONT LINE" MAYOR 1881-1969

Like Winston Churchill, with whom he was photographed many times, bowler-hatted Jimmy Cairns was larger than life. He saw Dover right through the Second World War to become the longest-serving Mayor this century. And when it as all over, like Churchill, the 'pig-headed old Geordie' was passed by. No honours. No knighthood.

Jimmy Cairns

"If he'd kept his mouth shut he'd have been knighted... his language was a bit grim," said a former Town Sergeant.

James Robinson Cairns was born in Willington-on-Tyne in 1881 and never forgot his origins. He began work as an apprentice fitter in Dover at the age of 12. After travelling the world, he returned to the town in 1919 as licensee of the "King Edward VII" pub in Goschen Road. He also stood for election, as Conservative candidate for the St. Bartholomew Ward, which he was to represent for 25 years.

He became Mayor in 1937 and remained in office at the outbreak of war because he was a well known personality, who, it was believed, could unite the public. "We all knew him, and accepted what he was," said a former colleague. He became a figurehead.

Under his leadership the Council fought the Government over local plans to excavate new tunnel-shelters in the cliffs.

The national press described him as a 'burley figure, a man with a downright manner and an 'I've got my foot in the door' look in his bowler-hatted and imperturbable."

He wholeheartedly opposed the evacuation of children from London to Dover and urged local residents to get out if they could. When there was talk of a military take-over of the town, the Mayor and Corporation stood fast.

But the Mayoral chain was not not untarnished and the legends about him were legion.

It was whispered that his pint-pulling experience meant that he was sometimes a liability. If important decisions were to be taken in the later years the rumour is that Mayor Cairns was occasionally locked in the lavatory!

When sirens went customers at the pub who preferred to stay put would, so it is said, be locked in - while their landlord drove off to a safe place in the country.

One of his last duties a Mayor was to take King George VI and Queen Elizabeth (the present Queen Mother) on a visit round the town following the capture of German guns, which the Council hoped would win the town a George Cross. But there was to be no medal for Dover.

Jimmy Cairns took the disappointment with typical ebullience. "One gets little appreciation for years of public service - not that it worries me..." His death in 1969 rated a small single column obituary in the local paper!

 

Dover Express 8th June 1945.

TOWN, PORT & GARRISON.

A collection for our Merchant Seamen at the Ladies Self-Help Club at the “King Edward VII” raised 2. 10s (per Mrs. E. A. Terry, the Secretary, Douglas Road).

 

Regulars outing

Above photo, date unknown, showing regulars at either the "King Edward" or the "Carriers Arms," probably during an outing.

 

Closed, hopefully temporarily around April 2009. Open again September 2009. Closed again May 2010.

 

King Edward VII 2010

Photo taken by Chris Grimes, 23 July 2010.

 

1st January, the pub seem to have had all the boards taken off the windows and the lights have been on, both inside and outside, so I'm hoping it's again open. Unfortunately this is not the case, the workmen were inside removing the beer engines etc.

 

From the Dover Mercury, 17 February, 2011.

STORE ON PUB SITE WOULD CREATE JOBS

A PUBLIC house in Dover could be turned into a convenience store.

Thevalingam Thevakumar is asking the district council for the change of use of the "King Edward VII" pub in Goschen Road.

he plans to open the shop from 7am to 10pm seven days a week.

 

King Edward as Londis King Edward as Londis King Edward sign King Edward sign

Above photos taken 4th June 2011 by Paul Skelton. The premises is now operating as a Londis grocers, but still retains the pub signs and name at present.

 

LICENSEE LIST

Last pub licensee had ROGERS William Henry Next pub licensee had 1902-Jan/06 Dover Express

HOLLINGHAM Frederick William Jan/1906-Jan/07 dec'd Dover Express (Lately a sergeant in the Army Service Corps. who had been invalided out of the Army.)

HOLLINGHAM Mrs Daisy Augusta (widow) Jan/1907+ Dover Express

THACKARY Walter Simon 1907-Mar/09 Dover Express

Last pub licensee had QUESTED Edward William Mar/1909-Aug/11 (age 46 in 1911Census) Dover Express

CASPARD Frederick Aug/1911-Oct/14 Dover Express

Last pub licensee had PRYER Mr W T Oct/1914-16 end

PRYER Mrs 1916

CAIRNS James Robinson 1919-June/24 Next pub licensee had Post Office Directory 1922Pikes 1924Dover Express

Last pub licensee had KENTON Ernest Richard June/1924-32+ Dover ExpressPost Office Directory 1930Pikes 1932-33

PUGH John 1933-Oct/34 Dover Express

Last pub licensee had SHIRLEY Capt. James Oct/1934-39 Dover ExpressPost Office Directory 1938Pikes 1938-39

KINGSNORTH Herbert senior 1939-47 end

KINGSNORTH Herbert Charles Wilson 1947-70 dec'd Pikes 48-49Kelly's Directory 1950Kelly's Directory 1953Kelly's Directory 1956

Last pub licensee had FLOYDD John W 1970

SEWELL William C 1972-78 end Library archives 1974 Whitbread Fremlins

GRAY Edwin Paul 1978

ORD John 1987

TOWNSEND John & Mikey Next pub licensee had Sept-Dec/2009

TOWNSEND Barry 2010+

 

The Dover Express recorded that Mr. W. T Pryer was late of the Inniskilling Fusiliers and recently manager of the "Friend in Need."

 

Post Office Directory 1922From the Post Office Directory 1922

Pikes 1924From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1924

Post Office Directory 1930From the Post Office Directory 1930

Pikes 1932-33From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1932-33

Post Office Directory 1938From the Post Office Directory 1938

Pikes 1938-39From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1938-39

Pikes 48-49From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1948-49

Kelly's Directory 1950From the Kelly's Directory 1950

Kelly's Directory 1953From the Kelly's Directory 1953

Kelly's Directory 1956From the Kelly's Directory 1956

Library archives 1974Library archives 1974

Dover ExpressFrom the Dover Express

 

If anyone should have any further information, or indeed any pictures or photographs of the above licensed premises, please email:-

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