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Sort file:- Ramsgate, November, 2021.

Page Updated:- Thursday, 25 November, 2021.

PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1865

(Name from)

Horse and Groom

Open 2019+

4 Charlotte Court / Market Place

Ramsgate

01843 587687

https://whatpub.com/horse-groom

Horse and Groom 1930

Above photo, 1930, showing Henry Stroud. Kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Horse and Groom 1930

Above photo, 1930, showing Henry Stroud. Kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Horse and Groom postcard 1963

Above postcard, circa 1963, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Horse and Groom Horse and Groom Horse and Groom signHorse and Groom 1991

Photographs above and sign left taken by Paul Skelton, 21 July 2012.

Sign right December 1991 with thanks from Brian Curtis www.innsignsociety.com

 

The postcard circa 1963 gives the following information:- Built-in 1830 as a dwelling house, in 1840 he became a public house, the "Royal Arms," Thompson and Wotton bought it in 1865, and because of the nearby Sackett's livery yard, the sign was changed and it became the "Horse and Groom." In 1960 Charlotte Cottage was added to the property, the whole interior of which was rebuilt, designed and decorated in keeping with the "Horse and Groom" era. In the bars are prints, sale bills and all manner of relics and pieces relating to more leisurely days of transport.

I am informed that the pub was bought by Shepherd Neame and again refurbished just before 2000.

 

East Kent Times and Mail, Friday 19 August 1977.

Death of popular Ramsgate publican.

POPULAR licensee of the "Horse and Groom" public house, Mr. Robert Cornell died this week.

Mr. Cornell, who was 48, became ill on Tuesday. He was taken to Margate Hospital but died later the same day.

With his wife Edna. Mr. Cornell had run the busy pub in Charlotte Court, Ramsgate since December and will be sadly missed by the 'regulars'.

The couple were licensed of the "Rose of Denmark," in Charlton, for 14 years before moving to Ramsgate to take over the "Horse and Groom" from Bert and Zena Higgs.

LONDON-BORN.

Mr. Cornell's aim was to make the pub "one of the most popular in the town" and he certainly did that. A wide range of lunch time snacks improved trade and his cheerful presence behind the bar pulled in more customers.

London-born Mr. Cornell trained as an engineer, but after Army service sought a new career. because of their love of meeting people, he and Edna, now 52, went into the licensing trade about 20 years ago.

 

East Kent Times and Mail, Wednesday 2 May 1979.

TAPES WORM.

Ten cassette tapes were stolen from a car parked outside the "Horse and Groom" public house in Ramsgate town centre on Thursday. The tapes belong to Mr. Sidney Sutton, of Canterbury Road, Birchington.

 

 

LICENSEE LIST

SAMSON & ALLEN 1867+

MARLOW James 1871+ (age 41 in 1871Census)

HOWARD James H 1881-90+ (age 28 in 1881Census)

BUDDS Edward 1890-91+Next pub licensee had (age 30 in 1891Census)

BUTLER Frederick Charles 1901-13+ Kelly's 1903

GROSS Otto 1914-15+

BUSH Harry George 1918-22+

STROUD William Henry 1929-34+

SINCLAIR Arthur 1936+

GOLD Frederick James 1938-39+

VENNER Norman 1951-53+

HIGGS B 1955-57+

Last pub licensee had CORNELL Robert Dec/1976-Aug/77 dec'd

https://pubwiki.co.uk/HorseGroom.shtml

 

CensusCensus

Kelly's 1903From the Kelly's Directory 1903

 

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