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PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1804

Rose Inn

Open 2019+

81 High Street (1897)

29 Lower Street Pigot's Directory 1828-29Bagshaw's Directory 1847Post Office Directory 1874Kelly's 1878

Deal

01304 389127

https://therosedeal.com/

https://www.whatpub.com/rose-hotel

Rose 1904

Above photo, circa 1904.

Rose 1952

Above photographs showing the "Rose" in 1952.

Rose Hotel in Deal Rose Hotel in Deal Rose Hotel sign in Deal
 

From between 1862 and 1893 the premises used to house the Oddfellows Club.

 

Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald, 26 February 1870.

COURT OF COMMON PLEAS. February, 16, 1870.

(Sittings at Nisi Prius, in London, before Lord Chief Justice Bovill., and a Special Jury.)

ALMOND v. WORMS

The plaintiff in this case was the proprietor of the "Rose Inn," Deal, and the defendant in 1868 was a candidate to represent the borough in parliament. The action was to recover the amount of a bill for the hire of horses and carriages, and of a room, and also for refreshments supplied. The defendant, in addition to the ordinary pleas, pleaded that the account had not been sent in to the defendant's agent in accordance with the Corrupt Practices Act.

Mr. T. Salter and Mr. Finlay, appeared for the plaintiff, and Mr. Huddleston, Q.C., for the defendant.

It appeared, in the course of the plaintiff s case that the claim upon the writ was for 40 2s. 6d. but subsequently there were further particulars, amounting to 14 15s. Some discussion took place as to whether the plaintiff was precluded by his first particulars from taking advantage of his further particulars, but the point was decided in favour of the plaintiff. It was, however, agreed that the claim for refreshments supplied, and also for some money paid should be withdrawn, on the ground that those claims were not in the particulars.

The plaintiff himself was called, and he said that the orders were given by Mr. Worms and by those who were working for him; and the carriages and the room were used by Mr. Worms, his committee, and others. Mr. Worms said, "If your side want anything, let them have it.”

Mr. Finlay.—and the charges were fair and reasonable—not election prices?

Witness.—Yes.

The Lord Chief Justice.—Why should they not be “election prices?” If there were three or four candidates in the field the prices would go up just as that of carriages upon the Derby day. (A laugh.)

The witness, in cross-examination, said that he charged 2 a day for the room. He had previously charged 10s. a day for it; but the 2 related to a time when the election was at its height.

Mr. Mourilyan, a solicitor, proved that Mr. Thompson, of York, was the defendant's election agent, and when going home he wrote to witness, “Get in all claims and send them to me.” Witness collected a number of bills, the plaintiff's among them, and sent them to the defendant's brother, at that gentleman's request. Subsequently there was a letter from Mr. Thompson, in which he said, “The bills that were sent in to you relative to the election are undergoing a careful scrutiny, and if legal, will be settled next week.”

Mr. Huddleston contended that the bill had not been sent in to the agent of the defendant within one month, in accordance with the Corrupt Practices Act, and therefore the claim was barred. He called the following witnesses:—

Mr. George Worms, the defendant's brother, said that he sent the bills received by him to Messrs. Baxter, Rose, and Norton, and not to Mr. Thompson., Mr. Thompson said that the bill never reached him. Messrs. Baxter, Rose, and Norton were his agents in some matters, bur not in this.
His Lordship, after some discussion, expressed his opinion that Mr. Mourilyan represented Mr. Thompson, and that sending the bill to the former gentleman was sufficient to satisfy the statute.

A verdict was then taken for the plaintiff for 10 2s. 6d., subject to the opinion of the full Court.

His Lordship intimated that the verdict had better stand as a settlement of the matter.

Mr. Huddleston said he would convey to the defendant the expression of his lordship's opinion.

Mr. Hall, solicitor, Deal, for plaintiff; Messrs. Baxter, Rose, and Norton, London, for defendant.

 

From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury, 6 December, 1873.

BOROUGH PETTY SESSIONS

The Magistrates present at these Sessions on Thursday were the Mayor, and G. Hughes, W. M. Cavell, E. Brown, and G. Fry, Esqrs.

Permission to keep his house open till one o'clock on Thursday morning next was granted to Mr. D. Almond, of the "Rose Inn," Lower Street, the occasion being the anniversary dinner of the members of the Lodge of Oddfellows meeting there.

 

From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury, 24 March, 1900.

EXTENSION

Mr. R. Currie, of the "Rose Hotel," was granted an extension till 12.30 that night, the occasion of the Licensed Victuallers' Dinner.

 

From the East Kent Mercury, 5 July, 1989.

THE ROSE RECALLS A FAMOUS DEAL CLERGYMAN

Rose Hotel signRose Hotel sign

The New Inn-sign for the "Rose Hotel," popular Deal High Street hostelry is attracting considerable attention. Especially from rose growers. For the sign shows two beautiful and authentic roses painted by Bill Pierce, the Charrington artist.

And thereby hangs a tail!

Rev. Henry Honeywood D'Ombrain

The red rose is a Bourbon Rose and the yellow a Noisette rose.... an both are linked with Rev. Henry Honeywood D'Ombrain, the first vicar of St. George's Church which is next to "The Rose."

He became Perpetual Curate at St. George's in 1849 and was instituted as the first Vicar in 1852.

He was founder of The Rose Society and its secretary for the first twenty-five years. The society was started by Mr. D'Ombrain in 1876 when he was sixty years of age.

He was a keen horticulturist and he wrote gardening articles for half-a-century under the pseudonym of "D. Deal."

He brought the Noisette Rose  to this country from France and I understand cultivated and bred the Bourbon Rose himself.

John Turner

The two roses on the new inn-sign are taken from two original prints provided by John Turner, of Union Road, Deal, John is one of the most enthusiastic of Deal's growing group of local historians. It was he who suggested the idea of linking "The Rose" with the memory of Henry Honeywood D'Ombrain.

When Bill Pierce was enthusiastic John did a great deal of research. John is a pillar of the Deal Society and has been responsible for a number of excellent exhibitions in recent years.

Stamp collecting and photography are among his hobbies and he is a former president of the Kent Photographic Association.

John Turner has one of the most complete stamp collections of local memorabilia I have seen. It builds up to reveal a perfect backcloth of the town's dramatic history.

Bill Pierce

Bill Pierce is an artist of consummate skills and has worked for Charrington since the end of World War Two. His work is to be found - and admired - on hundreds of public houses and inns in all parts of Kent and Sussex.

Bill works from a studio which he has in Ringwould, adjacent to "The Five Bells" public house.

Bill lives in Middle Street, Deal, and had early art training at Dover and then the Putney College of Art.

He served in the Army in World War Two and saw action in Italy. When the struggle there was over the military authorities offered him a place at the University of Art in Florence. He spent six months there studying the very best of Italy's contemporary artists.

When he came home from the war he joined the then Walmer Brewery which was owned by Thompson and Son. He then began his unique career as a painter of inn signs.

His work is art at its highest form and is greatly admired, especially by visitors from overseas.

For his there is always considerable historic research to be done before he gets out his brushes.

He is a meticulous craftsman and he ensures his designs are absolutely right before he starts work in the studio.

Research has taken him to museums, libraries, solicitors, offices and, more than once, to a lonely graveyard.

He has never been faulted over the authenticity of his work.

Bill tells me many famous artists have painted inn-signs in their time and among them is Hogarth.

Through his research Bill has become very familiar with the local history not only of Deal but all parts of Kent and Sussex.

"I think inn signs are part of the British scene," he told me.

I believe him and go farther. They are legitimate works of art.

The "Rose Hotel" was once, so I am told, the office buildings for the old Hill's brewery which operated with great success in Stanhope Road.

It became a commercial hotel when the brewery ceased to exist.

Stan and Min Dale

The licensees are Stan and Min Dale. They moved in last autumn after a three year stint at the "Antwerp," opposite Deal Pier.

Stan has been in the trade almost ten years. His first pub was in Margate. Before that he spent twenty years winning coal from the dark recesses of Betteshanger Colliery.

Stan has been secretary of the Licensed Victuallers Association for the last three years, while Min, is the vice-chairman of the Ladies Auxiliary.

Between them they do wonderful work for numerous charities.

They have three grown-up children and are grand-parents.

Stan says, "We are both delighted this notable local collection has been linked with "The Rose."

It is only through the local interest of enthusiasts like John Turner such things become known.

 

From the YourDover 17 November 2010

PUNTERS PICK UP A PIN BEFORE A PINT

HUNDREDS of pounds have been raised for a charity following birthday celebrations at a pub.

Tony Kairns used his 50th birthday celebration in the Rose Hotel in Deal as an occasion to raise money for the RSPB.

Mr Kairns agreed with the landlord to operate a no badge, no pint policy, encouraging customers in the bar to buy a RSPB pin-badge.

The pub sold out of the whole box, raising more than 200 on the night.

Carol Knott and landlord

Nichola Willett, the RSPB's senior community fund-raiser, said: "This is a great example of someone coming up with an original and fun idea to raise funds for charity. The no badge, no pint theme could be used in any pub."

Customers at the Rose Hotel have become proud supporters of the RSPB and display their pin badge donations and certificates on the wall of the bar.

Volunteer Carol Knott manages the collection box, counting up the cash and replacing the badges. So far this year she has helped raise more than 800 managing 23 pin badge boxes in her area.

She said: "It's great that in the current economic climate, people can be so generous in helping wildlife.

"Thanks to all the businesses who display our boxes and everyone who supports the RSPB by buying the badges."

Mrs Willett added: "I am delighted the RSPB has such a great representative in Deal and Sandwich and I would like to thank Carol for all her hard work."

 

From http://www.kentonline.co.uk Sunday, 7 September, 2014, by Beth Robson

The family of Deal's Rose Hotel owner Paul 'Fee' Fielden have remembered a kind and generous man.

Heartfelt tributes have been made by the family of Deal pub owner Paul Fielden after he died suddenly at his home in France.

Known affectionately as “Fee” by his many friends in Deal and Aylesham, Mr Fielden, 54, owned the Rose Hotel Pub in Deal High Street where he lived until he moved to Allonne in South West France.

His wife Josie, mother Jean, daughters and step daughter described a kind and generous man who “helped so many people out”.

Paul and Josie Fielden

Rose Hotel owner Paul Fielden who died suddenly. Pictured with his wife Josie.

 

His wife added: “He always worried about people, how they were and what would happen to them.”

Originally from Todmorden, West Yorkshire, Mr Fielden moved to Aylesham in 1966 when he was six with parents Linton and Jean.

“There was a softer side to him. He loved and cared for his family. He loved having animals" - Josie Fielden in tribute to husband Paul "Fee" Fielden.

He played rugby and football for Snowdown, usually in goal. He attended Dover Grammar School for Boys and went on to work at Snowdown Colliery.

In 1986 he took redundancy and set up his own electrical firm which did well, enabling him to move into the pub trade.

After his parents moved to Deal in 1991, he and Josie decided to settle in Deal and he bought the Rose Hotel where the couple made, and kept, many friends.

When they decided to leave England for a more relaxed life in France, he leased the Rose to his friend, the current landlord, Steve Plews.

His wife Josie Fielden said: “There was a softer side to him. He loved and cared for his family. He loved having animals.”

They favoured boxer dogs and when they moved to France, also kept ducks, chickens and goats.

Mr Fielden was recovering from pancreatic cancer, having undergone an operation called a Whipple procedure in 2011.

He died suddenly on Friday, August 22. The cause of death has not yet been established but it is understood he suffered heart failure, possibly a complication of his condition.

Mr Fielden leaves a wife Josie, mother Jean, son Paul, 33, daughters Carly, 32 and Stacy, 30 and step children Adrian, 44, Melanie, 39, Mark 33. He had seven step-grandchildren, two great grandchildren and had his first grandchild was on the way.

The funeral will be held on Tuesday, September 16 at 2pm at Barham Crematorium followed by a wake at the Ratling Club, Ratling Road, Aylesham CT3 3HL.

 

An outlet for Charrington & Co. in 1974. Library archives 1974

Recent information (March 2016) tells me that the pub has been sold, the upper part is being turned into a boutique hotel (whatever that is) and the bar area is to be gutted and refurbished.

 

From http://www.kentonline.co.uk 15 June 2017, By Beth Robson.

Landlord Steve Plews 'will miss regulars the most' as Deal High Street's last boozer The Rose Hotel closes.

When Steve Plews took on the running of the "Rose Hotel," he traded serving the City’s bankers for the people of Deal.

Steve Plews 2017

Twelve years later as the pub closes its doors, the 53 year-old says it’s undoubtedly the customers he’ll miss the most.

Born and bred in the house where his father Billy still lives in Newman Road, Aylesham, he was persuaded by the owner and lifelong friend from the village Paul Fielden to take on the lease of the High Street boozer.

And because of the enduring friendships he’s since made in the town, it’s one of the most rewarding things he ever did.

At the time Mr Plews was managing the Arbitrager in the City of London’s Throgmorton Street.

He said: “We had been talking about it for years and he had made the decision to retire in France so I came down, we had a chat and that was me in here 12 years ago. The best way to describe the difference is – it’s a rat race in the City.

“It’s so much more relaxed and chilled here, but I probably do about 30 or 40 hours a week more because in London I never worked weekends and bank holidays because the bankers aren’t there then.”

Life as a High Street landlord is “pretty much 24/7,” he says because of the responsibility. The "Rose" was also a B&B with seven rooms above, one of which he lived in.

In a world where the existence of traditional pubs is dwindling, the need to take and make more cash has led to a more hands-on approach and Mr Plews pulled many more pints behind the bar of the "Rose" than he did in his former pub.

Rose 2017

The Rose Hotel in Deal.

And with the changing appetites of society, with younger drinkers preferring bars and restaurants, he is supportive of the vision of the new owners.

They bought the pub in February after Mr Fielden died suddenly in August 2014 and his widow Josie decided to sell up. He said: “It’s the last of the British boozers that doesn’t do food in the town centre apart from the "Forester." We’ve survived on wet sales alone which was something to be proud of. It’s a proper drinker’s pub. That’s the good thing about the new owners, they’re going to spend a lot of money on it and increase the offer for the customers.

“The best thing about being landlord of the "Rose," and the thing I’ll miss the most is the customers. I’ll miss the regulars dreadfully. I’ll be moving in with my ‘baby brother’ my twin, Greg. This is me moving back to Aylesham for the first time in 30 years.”

Mr Plews has always been proud to hail from the Snowdown mining village where, in the 1980s, he played for Snowdown Colliery Rugby Football Club and the Colts football team.

He is a story of fives – he was one of five sons, he has five children of his own and five grandchildren who he is looking forward to spending more time with.

While he does that he is masterminding his next project which remains tightly under wraps.

From the Dover Mercury, 21 June 2017.

Thanks for article about Rose Hotel.

Thank you for the article about the Rose Hotel (June 14). My grandfather G. W. Case was the proprietor in the 1930s.

When his son (my father) took his new bride to meet his parents in 1932 she was looking forward to staying in a “pretty country pub with roses around the door”.

She always recalled how she was “greatly disappointed!”

David Case.

 

From the https://www.telegraph.co.uk By MARK C.O'FLAHERTY. 11 JUNE 2018

The real Deal: Inside The Rose, the coolest new boutique hotel on the Kentish coast.

Rose inside

With its chic interior and culinary delights, The Rose boutique hotel in Deal is a rare find among the thorns.

Each friend who decamps to a knackered-out seaside town on the Kent coast makes me want to move a little closer to the centre of London. Fashion, as much as financial reality, has made it “a thing” to sell your flat in Clapton, east London, and buy a 12-bedroom house somewhere with ranting cab drivers, UKIP rosettes, a mega-Wetherspoons and a sense of faded bohemia from a few hell-raising Carry On stars who had homes there in the Seventies. Every newcomer is dismissed as a gentrifying upstart by last year’s newcomers. I’ll have no truck with it.

That said, of all the coastal towns on the south-eastern stretch of England, Deal is the one I dislike least. Hackneyfication happened long ago: Borough Wines and boutiques selling Le Laboureur French workwear jackets are well established. I can see the appeal of Deal. I’m partial to a Mr Whippy, a walk on the pier and a mooch around the antique shops. And while I’m not buying property anytime soon, there’s now somewhere I would stay regularly: The Rose.

Until recently The Rose was one of the town’s most notorious pubs, where each pint came with a frisson of danger. It’s had a makeover, partially by Harding and Read, designers at Beaverbrook country house hotel, but mostly by Michelle Kelly, East London fashion stylist-turned-interior designer. It’s now a chic seaside inn with eight bedrooms and a dining room whose veggie-friendly modern British menu focuses on locally sourced seafood and meat.

Rose inside

Once one of Deal's less salubrious establishments, The Rose is now a stylish seaside inn serving a modern British menu in its sophisticated restaurant.

Skate wing with capers and brown butter croutons and sea bream with fennel and brown shrimp echo The Sportsman, a 45-minute drive away in Whitstable, but without six weeks of jumping through hoops for a table.

The bedrooms at The Rose are typical of Michelle’s style – each a different, well-choreographed romp of emerald green, hot pink and yellow ochre – William Morris meets Miu Miu. There are turntables with Joni Mitchell and Beach Boys vinyl, Farrow & Ball wallpaper prints, retro bamboo-framed mirrors, floral-painted dressers, fabrics from Liberty, Designers Guild and Christine van der Hurd, and chunky vintage bathroom sets with Lefroy Brooks taps.

In the hallways: specially commissioned Indian rugs and contemporary art. Downstairs: wood-panelled walls, House of Hackney sofas and old-fashioned blue and white striped mugs. The Rose is that rare bloom these days: a boutique hotel that doesn’t look like Soho House, at a time when just about every new boutique hotel does.

When I visited on the first weekend it was open, there were teething troubles – a plumber had to be called to make the water hot enough for me to take a bath, and there was a fair bit of grilling of a waiter to find anything out about the wine list. I heard “I’m sorry, it’s my first day” a couple of times, which is fair: for all the small posies used for decoration, the only thing I could smell was fresh paint.

Judging by the familiar faces in the restaurant the night I stayed, The Rose is going to be a new favourite weekend getaway for food and fashion industry types. The new owners have struck gold. Of course, it’s easy to lump the DFL (“down from London”) crowd together as mere canny, business-minded bargain hunters – sharks if you will – but the new owners of The Rose have roots here.

Rose bedroom

Each of the eight bedrooms has been individually styled in emerald green, hot pink and yellow ochre, with quirky extras such as turntables and retro bamboo-framed mirrors.

One of the owners is Chris Hicks, whose great-grandfather bought the local Thompson brewery in the late 19th century. His grandfather and father subsequently had most of the pubs in Deal under their hop-scented umbrella. Chris has put Thompson ephemera in the bar, and intends to relaunch their Walmer Ale in the future. Both he and his wife, Alex Bagner – previously a senior editor at Wallpaper* – clearly have a lot of love for Deal, and for this old pub.

There’s nothing cynical about the takeover. But it’s also not for everyone. While I was brunching on duck egg and asparagus with pancetta soldiers washed down with Pol Roger, I wondered for a moment how one of the dishevelled old regulars must feel, after being told a whopping fib by the barmen that spirits aren’t available at lunch. “The pub over the road serves them,” the barman advised. The regular was no longer welcome. But then, he was seeing double by midday on a Saturday and borderline coherent, so he’s oblivious to it. And you can’t be all things to all people.

But that’s fine, because as gentrified as Deal is, there’s still no shortage and variety of pubs. There just hasn’t really been anything like The Rose, until now. And what makes it really work is that it doesn’t just feel like a bit of East London transplanted to the coast. It feels like the new, real Deal.

Rooms from 125, including breakfast. There are no ground-floor or accessible guest rooms.

 

LICENSEE LIST

HINDS Widow 1804+

RALPH Joseph 1823-28+ (Pigot's Directory 1823Pigot's Directory 1824Pigot's Directory 1828-29 Lower Street)

WHITE Henry 1832-mid50s (Pigot's Directory 1832-34Pigot's Directory 1839Pigot's Directory 1840Bagshaw's Directory 1847 Lower Street)

BOKES John William 1859-61 The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers (age 32 in 1861Census)

ALMOND David 1870-82+ Post Office Directory 1874Post Office Directory 1882 (age 41 in 1871Census)

FROST Percy Alfred 1887+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

EASTMAN Margaret A 1891+ (widow age 44 in 1891Census)

EDWARDS George 1893+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

MONCK Joseph 1897+

OXLEY Frederick Augustus 1899+ Kelly's 1899

CURRIE Mr R 1900+ Deal Mercury

CLARK Arthur E 1908+ Pikes 1908

CLEMINSON J C 1914+ Deal library 1914

DODSWORTH Samuel Thomas 1915+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

CASE G W 1936-48+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

DALE W 1950s+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

THOMPSON William E 1966-74+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and RogersLibrary archives 1974 Charrington & Co

WORKMAN Stewart 1975+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

FORSTER John 1981+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

DODD Philip 1986+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

Last pub licensee had DALE Stan & Min 1988-89+

WALSH Shirley 1991+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

FIELDON Paul 1992+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

FIELDEN Peter & Josie 2009 The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

PLEWS Steve 2009-17

HICKS Chris Apr/2018+

http://pubshistory.com/RoseInn.shtml

 

Pigot's Directory 1823From the Pigot's Directory 1823

Pigot's Directory 1824From the Pigot's Directory 1824

Pigot's Directory 1828-29From the Pigot's Directory 1828-29

Pigot's Directory 1832-34From the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34

Pigot's Directory 1839From the Pigot's Directory 1839

Pigot's Directory 1840From the Pigot's Directory 1840

Bagshaw's Directory 1847From Bagshaw Directory 1847

Post Office Directory 1874From the Post Office Directory 1874

Kelly's 1878From the Kelly's Directory 1878

Post Office Directory 1882From the Post Office Directory 1882

Kelly's 1899From the Kelly's Directory 1899

Pikes 1908From Pikes 1908

Deal library 1914Deal Library List 1914

Library archives 1974Library archives 1974

The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and RogersThe Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

Deal MercuryFrom the Deal Walmer & Sandwich Mercury

CensusCensus

 

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