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60 (12 1881 ) London Road
(Buckland Street 1861)
Dover
Above Rose and Crown 1976 (Photo by Paul Skelton) |
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Above and below Rose and Crown photos by Barry Smith circa 1980. |
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Above, date unknown. |
From a collection of Ray Warners photos, kindly sent by Ken Chapman,
date, circa 1965, showing the "Diamond"
playing the "Whitfield Club."
Person and team as yet unknown but the "Diamond" won. |
From a collection of Ray Warners photos, kindly sent by Ken Chapman,
date, circa 1965, person as yet unknown. showing the "Diamond"
playing the "Whitfield Club."
Person and team as yet unknown but the "Diamond" won. |
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Above photo of Rose and Crown circa 1990 |
Earliest reference found so far is in the Wingham Division Ale Licence
list, which shows the "Rose and Crown," Buckland, to be re-licensed for the sum of 8 shillings in
1740 indicating that the pub was present before 1740.
Barry Smith originally wrote:- "I know that it flourished before 1878 and it has the look of being
rebuilt at some time but my searches revealed little.
Just
found at the local library (Paul Skelton) the following article in the Dover
Observer of 1896. However, I still have no idea why it had to be rebuilt.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 11 July, 1890.
BUCKLAND GALETHUMPIANS
These gentleman, who probably are the descendants of the famous Pickwick
Club, and who hail from the “Rose and Crown,” London Road, Buckland, had
their annual outing on Saturday, paying a visit to Ramsgate. In spite of
the weather, we understand they were very happy, - in fact, it is
understood that their happy constitution enables them to be jolly,
whether or no.
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From the Dover Observer. 26 January 1896.
On Tuesday the Managing Committee approved the plans submitted by Messrs. Stenning and
Jennings for re-building the Rose and Crown Inn, London Road.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 3 August, 1900.
RAID ON ICE CREAM VENDORS
John Grilli, an Italian ice cream vendor, was summoned for allowing an
ice cream barrow to stand in the roadway.
Police Constable Fox said that on July 20th he was in London Road. He
saw the defendant about 6.10 in the evening standing opposite the “Rose
and Crown” with his ice cream barrow. As soon as the defendant saw
witness coming he moved on up the road. Witness passed on down as far as
Beaconsfield Road. The defendant then pushed his barrow as far as
Alexandra Road, and stopped there for half an hour. Witness took his
name and address. He said he had been standing there, but had been
selling ice cream. Witness spoke to him the previous Friday, and told
him that he was not allowed to stand in the road.
The Magistrates asked how long the men were allowed to stop and sell ice
cream.
The Superintendent said that they were not allowed to stop at all.
A fine of 5s. was paid.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 13
April, 1923. Price 1½d.
LICENSING
Mr. Ben Holman, of the "Rose and Crown," London Road, applied for a
music, singing and dancing licence for wireless concerts.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, 29 September 1939.
Francis Albert Martin, "Rose and Crown," 60, London Road, was fined
10s. for allowing light to show from a window at 10.15 p.m. on 11th
September.
P.C. Robinson proved the case.
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It was a Whitbread outlet latterly and Mrs Doris Kettle served drinks at
this bar for something like thirty four years. With her departure in 1984
came the end. The following year it sold clothes to teenagers.
It is now (2010) a toy shop called "Toys Around Again".
Above photo by Paul Skelton, 9 April 2010. |
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From an email received 24 September 2010.
I came across your website and was very interested in the photos and
history of the "Rose and Crown" Pub in Buckland Kent. My name is Julie
Smith and I live in Australia. I am doing my family history research and
I have found this information.
In 1871 William Johnson (43) Victualler Licensee and his wife Sarah
Ann Johnson (59) were living at the “Rose and Crown” on London Road in
Buckland Kent. Mary Ann Verrier was working there as a parlour-maid at
the time.
I do have the death record of William Johnson. He died of
Tuberculosis on 27 February 1879 aged 51.
I think William Johnson owned the pub from 1871 to 1879.
William Johnson died at the "Rose and Crown" Pub, Buckland Dover.
Regards,
Julie Smith.
(The above I have reference to them as
licensees of the other "Rose
and Crown" in Clarence Place, so I hope the
above naming of Buckland is correct. But it does give credibility as to
how this was named around that time. Paul Skelton.)
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Kindly supplied by Julie Smith.
WILLIAM JOHNSON 1879.
PERSONAL ESTATE UNDER £200.
26 April. The Will of William Johnson late of the "Rose and Crown"
Inn, Buckland in Dover in the County of Kent, Licensed Victualler who
died 27 February 1879 at the "Rose and Crown" was proved at Canterbury
by Sarah Ann Johnson of the "Rose and Crown" Widow and Relict to sole
executrix.
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In 1881 Census, Sarah Ann Johnson, William's wife, was a lodger at 7
Durham Hill, Dover Kent. She was an independent, aged 70. In 1885 she
died (Quarter July August September) in Dover, Kent, aged 75 years, Vol
2a, page 519.
Sarah didn't own the pub after 1881.
Julie Smith.
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From the above information from Julie Smith, I now believe that the pub
identified as the "Rose and Crown" in Buckland, not to be the same one
mentioned here. I'm not certain when the houses were actually built yet, but
would say after 1740.
Furthermore, it appears that Sarah Ann Johnson had been married before,
and to Thomas Cheney as mentioned in the 1851 census. He died in the winter
of 1861. Thomas Cheney was the licensee of the "Rose
and Crown" at Clarence Place at that time and Sarah Ann took over and
stayed there till 1871.
In 1870 she remarried William Johnson, and apparently moved to Buckland
where he was licensee of another public house also called the "Rose and
Crown."
I believe they were the first licensees of this establishment and
obviously called the pub the "Rose and Crown" after the one Sarah Ann had
just left.
Just to confuse matters slightly, I have just found the following passage
in the Dover Express of January 1873:- So perhaps my assumption above is
incorrect. Time will tell.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer,
10 January, 1873. Price 1d.
TRANSFERS
The license of the "Rose and Crown" beer-house, Charlton, was
transferred from Mr. J. Prebble, who held it as the executor of the late
Mr. J. Friend, the former landlord, to the former landlord's son.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent
Intelligencer, 19 April, 1878. Price 1d.
PUBLIC HOUSE BUSINESS
An application for permission to draw at the "Rose and Crown"
was made by Mr. Coleman on behalf of W. Johnson, the new tenant. It was
granted.
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Having just found out the address of the "Mechanics
Arms" as being 107 Buckland Road (or Street) it appears to be just a few
doors away from the "Britannia" with
the address of 104 Buckland Road in 1861. Thus it is possible that this
"Rose and Crown" could well have been called the "Mechanics
Arms" prior to 1873, the earliest I have it traced under the name of
"Rose and Crown" so far. The "Mechanics"
seeming to disappear after 1867.
LICENSEE LIST
BROWNING Thomas 1740+
PREBBLE J Mr to Jan 1873
PREBBLE Mr (son) Jan 1873+
PLUMMER Mrs 1874
ANDERSON Thomas D L May/1878
JOHNSON William Apr/1878-Feb/79
 
(
wife ne CHENEY Sarah Ann)
JOHNSON Sarah Ann to Jan/1880
JOYCE James B Jan/1880-82+ (1889?)
(age 47 in 1881)
WRAIGHT George 1891+ (age 33 in 1891)
JAMES Mrs Elizabeth 1895-Nov/1900
 
STANLEY Edward Gregory Nov/1900-07 end
  
HOLMANS Benjamin 1905-32+ (age 35 in 1911)
     
MARTIN Francis Albert 1934-39+
 
DALE William C 1946-51
 
KETTLE Thomas John 1951-60 dec 'd
 
KETTLE Mrs Doris F M 1960-84 end (See
photo of the Plough)
Whitbread Fremlins
From the Kelly's Directory 1874
From the Post Office Directory 1874
From the Post Office Directory 1882
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1895
From the Kelly's Directory 1899
From the Post Office Directory 1901
From the Post Office Directory 1903
From the Kelly's Directory 1903
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1909
From the Post Office Directory 1913
From the Post Office Directory 1922
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1924
From the Post Office Directory 1930
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1932-33
From the Post Office Directory 1938
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1938-39
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1948-49
From the Kelly's Directory 1950
From the Kelly's Directory 1953
From the Kelly's Directory 1956
From the Dover Express
Census 1881
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