17 High Street
St. Lawrence
01843 588088
https://whatpub.com/wheatsheaf
Above photo showing the original "Wheatsheaf" date unknown. |
End of the road shows the old "Wheatsheaf"
to the left is the "Rose Inn" circa 1860. |
 Above
postcard, date unknown. The pub on the left is the "Rose
Inn." |
Above postcard, date unknown, kindly sent by Philip Page. |
Above photo, date unknown. Also showing the "White Horse." |
Above photo showing the new build "Wheatsheaf" date unknown. |
Above photo, showing the old against the new surroundings. |
Above photo, date unknown. |
Above photo, date unknown. From top of church. "Wheatsheaf" left, "White
Horse" right. |
Above photo taken with permission from
Saunders family web. |
Above Google image, July 2015. |
Above photo, 2025. kindly sent by Philip Page. |
Kentish Gazette, Saturday 12 April 1777.
To Upholsterers, and Cabinet and Coachmakers.
New and Co. Glass grinders, at the "Wheatsheaf," St Lawrence, Near
Ramsgate.
Beg leave to inform their friends and the public in general, that they
will serve them with the best looking and coach glasses as cheap as in
London, and on the shortest notice.
Old glasses, new-polished, silvered, and framed in the newest taste.
|
Kentish Gazette 2 September 1791.
TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION.
The present Friday the 2nd September, About six o'clock in the
afternoon, at the "Wheatsheaf," in the parish of St. Laurence in the
Isle of Thanet.
Two Dwelling Houses, and other buildings, with the garden, orchard and
land thereunto belonging, together adjoining, and containing about one
acre, very pleasantly and conveniently situated in the said parish of
St. Laurence, within a small distance from the Church and from the Town
of Ramsgate, and now in the occupations of Mr. Roger Hoper and others.
For further particulars enquire of Messrs. Fagg, Sawkins and Austen, at
their offices in Ramsgate and Margate.
|
From South Eastern Gazette 19 September 1854:
The annual licensing meeting for the Wingham division was held on the
7th inst.
The licence for the parish of St Laurence were renewed with the
exception of those of George Moyne, "Wheatsheaf," and Thomas Buddel, of
the "Honeysuckle," Hereson.
|
Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald, 8 January 1870.
THREATENING LANGUAGE.
At the Police Court, on Thursday. before Major Wilkie, the Rev. G. W.
Sicklemore, Gen. Williams, Sir W. M. Coghlan. K.C.B.. and B. Sicklemore,
Esq., Henry Williams, of the "Wheat Sheaf," St. Lawrence, was charged
with "threatening to knock off the head and to smash out the brains" of
Charles Ofield, at St. Lawrence, on the 1st inst.
Mr. Bowling appeared for the complainant but as Mr. Towne, who was
retained for the defence, was unable to be present, the case was at his
clerk's request, adjourned till Saturday.
|
Thanet Times, Tuesday 1 September, 1964.
St. Lawrence people are a friendly lot.
Mr. John Hawkins, licensee of the "Wheatsheaf" at High Street, St
Lawrence, is a Londoner who likes Ramsgate.
After 17 years in the public house business, he said:- "We would
not leave St. Lawrence. The people here are friendly and sociable
and we have made many friends."
He and his wife, who comes from Hereford, spent the first 5 years
at St. Lawrence in a pub which has since disappeared. "We had the
"Old White Horse" and when that was pulled down we came to the
"Wheatsheaf," said Mr. Hawkins.
The "White Horse," which was afterwards replaced, was their first
public house.
The "Wheatsheaf" has a lively social club with a darts team and
it is also the home of a champion tug-of-war team. Mr. Hawkins, who
served in the Army during the war and was a sergeant instructor for
the Army Physical Training Corps., is there tug-of-war coach.
Former committee member for the Isle of Thanet Licensed
Victuallers' Association - Mrs. Hawkins was at one time secretary of
the Ladies' Auxiliary. - Mr. Hawkins gives much of his spare time to
the affairs of the 900 year old parish church which stands opposite
his bars.
He is chairman of the Churchill committee and when he gets the
opportunity he likes recording events like the big parish summer
fayre with his cine camera.
|
From the
https://theisleofthanetnews.com By Kathy Bailes, 28 July, 2022.
HOMENEWSPlan to convert Wheatsheaf pub into flat and two HMOs
rejected by Thanet council.
Plan to convert Wheatsheaf pub into flat and two HMOs rejected by
Thanet council.
The Wheatsheaf in St Lawrence.
An application to convert The Wheatsheaf pub in St Lawrence into
one flat, a 4-bed house of multiple occupation (HMO) and a 5 bed
HMO have been refused by Thanet council.
The High Street pub, which has been closed for more than two years,
had previously been put up for sale but no buyer was found. It
already has accommodation on the upper floor.
Applicant Estia Property Solutions Ltd wanted to convert the
property to two Houses of Multiple Occupation and a one-bedroom
flat.
Planning documents say: “The client wishes to put into use a
building that was deemed unviable to continue as a public house for
the minimum of the past two years and was put to sale since with no
success of being purchased to the moment.
“The aim is to provide more accommodation in the area with
professionals and key-workers as the target audience.”
The proposal was for no alterations to be made to the exterior due
to the property being a non designated heritage asset. The 4-bedroom
HMO) would be split between ground floor and basement with the
communal area and 4 single bedrooms at ground floor and the basement
to be used for kitchen, utility room, shower rooms and storage.
The 5-bedroom HMO would be split between ground floor and first
floor with the communal area, one shower room and 2 single bedrooms
to first floor and 3 single bedrooms, kitchen, dining and one shower
room to ground floor.
The one-bedroom flat was planned for the first floor with private
access from the ground floor.
Ten objections were received with concerns such as the pub only
being marketed during the pandemic and overdevelopment.
Ramsgate Town Council objected saying: “It is considered as
overdevelopment of the site; it is considered an inappropriate
location for the development; the loss of a public amenity and no
clear evidence of the non-viability of the public house.”
In a report from Thanet council the planning officer says that
although the loss of the public house would not conflict with policy
in this case there were concerns over the standard of the
accommodation.
The report says: “It is considered that the accommodation offered by
the one bed flat is good and it would provide a good standard of
accommodation for its future occupiers. Concerns are, however,
raised about the living conditions for the future occupiers of the 2
proposed HMOs.
“The 4 bed HMO would have its kitchen located within the basement
with limited light and ventilation with a large utility room and
other non habitable rooms. The other communal areas for this unit
(assumed to be the lounge and dining area) would be accessed
directly from the street and appear more as a corridor through to
the bedrooms and staircase, again with limited light and ventilation
than an area where residents would wish to utilise. This would
significantly reduce the amount of usable space in the main
habitable area of the property, to serve 4 individuals.
“Concerns are raised about the fact that residents would have to
take meals/drinks prepared in the kitchen up to the next floor to be
either the communal area or their rooms and this may instead lead
residents to utilise the basement as a dining area given its size
and privacy (when compared against the ground floor communal area
proposed to serve this HMO), despite the limited light and
ventilation. Given this, it is considered that the communal areas of
this unit are poor and do not provide a high standard of
accommodation to serve future residents.
“Concerns are also raised about the standard of accommodation
offered by bedroom 1 of this HMO given its ground floor location
adjoining the accesses to other HMO and the flat unit as well as the
yard containing bin and bike storage.
“Similar concerns are raised in relation to 5 bedroom HMO. There
would be limited natural light and ventilation particularly to its
kitchen and dining area, but also its lounge although that does have
some light via a door to a small outdoor terrace area. The window to
the dining area would also be at least partially blocked by the bike
rack located in front of it again minimising light and ventilation
and also outlook for future occupiers of the HMO.
“The occupier of bedroom 3 of this HMO also has the potential to
suffer from overlooking from people using the communal areas for
bin, bike storage and access.”
Despite some amendments by the applicant, planning officers say they
are “disappointed” that suggested measures were not taken.
The report concludes: “It is considered that the unacceptable future
living conditions of the HMO are considered to significantly
outweigh the modest economic and social benefits provided by a flat
and 2 HMOs.”
|
From the
https://theisleofthanetnews.com By Kathy Bailes, 22 December 2022.
Plan to convert Wheatsheaf pub into three flats submitted to council.
An application to convert the Wheatsheaf pub in St Lawrence into
three flats has been submitted to Thanet council.
The pub, which already has a 3-bedroom flat upstairs, has been shut
for more than two years.
Earlier this year a proposal to convert the building into one flat,
a 4-bed house of multiple occupation (HMO) and a 5 bed HMO was
refused by Thanet council.
The High Street pub had previously been put up for sale but no buyer
was found.
Applicant Estia Property Solutions Ltd wanted to convert the
property to two Houses of Multiple Occupation and a one-bedroom
flat. It has now lodged a new application for conversion to 3
self-contained flats.
In the previous application Estia said the Wheatsheaf: “was deemed
unviable to continue as a public house for the minimum of the past
two years and was put to sale since with no success of being
purchased to the moment.
“The aim is to provide more accommodation in the area with
professionals and key-workers as the target audience.”
Ten objections were received against the HMO application with
concerns such as the pub only being marketed during the pandemic and
overdevelopment.
In October emergency services were called to the property and had to
shut the road due to debris falling from the building.
The Wheatsheaf pub dates back to at least 1828.
My data goes back to 1777. Paul Skelton.
|
From the
https://theisleofthanetnews.com By Kathy Bailes News, May 10, 2023.
Permission granted for Wheatsheaf pub to be converted into flats.
The pub, which already has a 3-bedroom flat upstairs, has been shut
since prior to 2020. The granted application is to turn the site
into three flats, with one 4-bed and two 2-bed properties.
Last year a proposal to convert the building into one flat, a 4-bed
house of multiple occupation (HMO) and a 5 bed HMO was refused by
Thanet council.
The High Street pub had been put up for sale in 2018 but no buyer
was found. It had been run by the owners as a family pub for 18
years before a decision to sell had to be made.
Applicant Estia Property Solutions Ltd wanted to convert the
property to two Houses of Multiple Occupation and a one-bedroom
flat. In December 2022 it lodged a new application for conversion to
3 self-contained flats.
In the previous application Estia said the Wheatsheaf: “was deemed
unviable to continue as a public house for the minimum of the past
two years and was put to sale since with no success of being
purchased to the moment.
“The aim is to provide more accommodation in the area with
professionals and key-workers as the target audience.”
Ten objections were received against the original application with
concerns such as the pub only being marketed during the pandemic and
overdevelopment.
Thanet CAMRA lodged an objection to the amended plans highlighting
the view that there was “no indication that the site is finished as
a public house” and “the building is a good example of a brewers
Tudor style of pub built around 1900 and only 2 other examples still
operate in Ramsgate.”
Thanet CAMRA added: “Trying to prevent the unnecessary loss of
historic community pubs is, or should be, a high consideration of
Thanet council’s planning policies.”
One letter of support was also received saying they could: “see why,
after reviewing the submitted turnover and profit details, they have
cease trading,” and “Three flats is a better solution than the HMOs
proposed under the previous application.”
Thanet planning officers said: “Whilst the application would see the
loss of a community facility it is considered that there are a
number of other public houses and community facilities in the local
area not to undermine the ability of the community to meet its day
to day needs. The development would also contribute to the housing
supply within the district, whilst providing the re-use of a
non-designated heritage asset.”
The exterior of the building will undergo minimal change.
Last October emergency services were called to the property and had
to shut the road due to debris falling from the building.
The permission notice was issued today (May 10). |
Apparently, the landlord had been ill for ages, with various
friends and family helping keeping it going, while pretending everything was
okay. It got to the point where he just couldn't manage it any more.
LICENSEE LIST
KELSEY Bartholomew 1828-32+
 
PERKINS George 1839-41
HOLMES George 1841+
FOXE Thomas 1847-51+ (also farmer age 36 in 1851 )
MOYNE Joseph George 1851-/July/64 (age 35 in 1851 )
OFIELD Charles July1864-67+
WILLIAMS Henry (Harry) 1870-71+

SIMPSON John Richard 1874+

SHERSBY John H 1881+ (age 50 in 1881 )
MAY Edwin 1890+
SILLS Edwin 1891+ (age 42 in 1891 )
CLAYDEN Mr to May/1900

STRAUGHAN Bernard R May/1900-02
 
WOODWARD James 1907+
AUSTEN Edwin 1911+ (age 54 in 1911 )
CROUCH Harry 1913-15+
CROUCH Hannah Elizabeth Mrs 1918-30+
BURTON William Joseph 1934+
WOOD Joseph Henry 1936+
LILLEY Frederick William Fairman 1938+
LILLEY Violet E Mrs 1939+
BURTON G E Mrs 1951+
HAWKINS John 1952-64+
KNIGHT Raymond late 1970s-early 80s
GOODMAN Bill late 1980s+
https://pubwiki.co.uk/WheatsheafInn.shtml
From the Pigot's Directory 1828-29
From the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34
From the Post Office Directory 1874
From the Kelly's Directory 1903
Whitstable Times
and Herne Bay Herald
Thanet Advertiser
Census
|