DOVER KENT ARCHIVES
PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1740-

White Horse

Latest 1970

Church Street

Minster

White Horse Charabanc

Above photo showing driver, Owen Spain and his eldest son, Ernest who ended up establishing Spain's Taxi and Car Hire. dat unknown.

Former White Horse 2015

Above photo kindly send by Peter Checksfield, October 2015.

Former White Horse 2015

Above photo kindly send by Peter Checksfield, October 2015.

Former White Horse 2015

Above photo kindly send by Peter Checksfield, October 2015.

White Horse Plaque 2015

Above photo kindly send by Peter Checksfield, October 2015.

 

The "White Horse" ceased trading as a pub in 1970. For many years it was owned by Cobb & Co. of Margate, who apparently were not related to the medieval Cobb who owned the inn, and was ‘famed for his knowledge of horseflesh and his skill in brewing fine ales'. Legend has it that the Black Prince entrusted to Cobb his black war horse, whilst he rode his white steed to nearby Minster Abbey to attend Mass.

Cobbs were founded in 1673, but Whitbread took them over early 1968 and closed the brewery later that year.

 

Found in Bagshaw Directory 1847.

in 1934 their telephone number was 67.

 

From the Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports General Advertiser, Saturday 1 May, 1841.

INQUEST

On Monday last an inquest was held before Mr. De Lasaux, Coroner, at the "White Horse," in the parish of Minster, Isle of Thanet, on the body of Samuel Walker, who had hanged himself the preceding evening. The deceased was a carpenter, and it appeared from the evidence of a fellow-workman, that he had been employed in the erection of a telegraph in Kingsdown Wood, but which he had been unable to complete, in consequence of unfavourable weather, and being very anxious to do so in order to commence erecting another near Minster Mills; the delay had caused him great uneasiness, and it is believed so preyed upon his mind that it eventually compelled him to commit self-destruction.

The Jury returned a verdict of "Temporary Insanity."

 

From the Kentish Chronicle, Saturday, 10 September, 1859. Price 1½d.

EFFECTS OF RAILWAY ACCOMMODATION.

It has often been remarked that wherever there is a railway station, improvements take place sooner or later. Not the least has taken place at the "White Horse Inn," near our station. The house, in the early part of the season, was completely renovated, a well laid-out bowling green has taken the place of pig styes, &c., and a successful fly business has been established to the house, to the profit and credit of the obliging landlord, and to the convenience of the public.

Two more houses are now completed on the estate of the National Freehold Land Society. The style and substantial way they are built are highly creditable. A Choral Society has been established in the village, under a good auspices. The meetings are held in the National School-room, and we hope the kindly spirit evoked between churchmen and Wesleyans will continue, and the choral society go on harmoniously.

 

From the Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald. 5 October 1867. Price 1d.

Mr. T. W. Collard, the surveyor to the Isle of Thanet Highway Board, applied that the road leading from the “White Horse Inn," Minster, to the South-Eastern Railway Station there might become public property with the consent of the parties concerned — the Marquis of Conyngham, and the South-Eastern Railway Company.

The application was granted.

 

Thanet Advertiser. Saturday 8 January 1898.

Minster. Transfer of Licence.

At a sitting of the County Bench at Ramsgate on Tuesday, before Mr. H. Wiegall (in the chair,) Capt. L. W. Vaile, and Mr. W. Curling, the licence of the "White Horse Inn," Minster, formerly held by Mr. H. Austen, was transferred to Robert Sturt Stokes, late of Margate.

 

Thanet Advertiser. Saturday 22 March 1902.

Bona fide Travellers. Minster Publican's Action.

A case of an unusual character occupied the attention of the Ramsgate County Justice's for a considerable time at the Petty Sessions on Tuesday, when Frederick Miles (Sarre Court) Ernest Ruff (St. Nicholas,) Robert Henry Miles (St. Nicholas,) John Hawkins (St. Nicholas,) and Thomas Charles Williams (St. Nicholas) were summoned, on the information of Martha Hines, the licensee of the "White Horse Inn," Minster, for unlawfully and falsely representing themselves to be travellers and obtaining intoxicating liquors during the hours which said licensed premises were closed in pursuance of Act of Parliament, on March 12th.

The Magistrates present were Mr. H. B. Hammond (in the chair), Capt. L. W. Vaile and Mr. J. W. D. Johnson.

Mr. T. T. Whitehead prosecuted, and Dr. F. W. Hardman appeared for defendants, who pleaded not guilty.

Mr. Whitehead stated the case for the prosecution. He said the defendants had been attending a smoking concert at the "Bell Inn," Minster, on March 12th. The concert terminated about 10 o'clock, which was the closing hour at Minster, and the defendants then came over to the "White Horse Inn" and got refreshments on the representation that they were bona fide travellers. It was true that for the defendants came from St. Nicholas, while the fourth was from Sarre, and that both places were outside the 3 mile limit. The Bench had a rather difficult question to decide. Mr. Whitehead stated that his clients ground for taking these proceedings was that she was a licensed victualler, and, in view of the stringent character of the licensing laws, it behoved her to be very careful in the conduct of her business, in order that she might preserve a clean slate. He submitted that they worships should be guided in their decision by the case of "Pen v. Alexander." He contended that persons we're not bona fide travellers who, merely because they came from outside the 3 mile limit, went from one house to another to get drink. In the present case it would be proved that the men had been at the "Bell" all the evening, and were, therefore, not be in need of liquid refreshment, and, in asking the Bench to convict, he submitted that they were not bona fide travellers.

Anna Jeffries, barmaid at the "White Horse," Minster, said on Wednesday evening, March 12th, the house closed at 10 o'clock, the door being fastened between a quarter and twenty minutes past ten someone came to the door and knocked twice. Witness heard a knock and went to the door. There were four men there. She recognise Frederick Miles and Robert Miles as members of the party. One of the defendant's, in answer to witness, said they were travellers from St Nicholas. Witness said: "Are you sure you are travellers?" And one of the defendants replied:- "Yes. We are travellers. I shouldn't come unless we were, for I'm a public and myself." Witness opened the door and let defendants in. Robert Miles asked for two threes of Scotch whisky and three glasses of ale. Witness served the drinks, and from the conversation which include, she heard that they had had a very good evening. They were discussing the songs they have been listening to. Witness knew that there had been a concert at the "Bell," which was a short distance from the "White Horse." Witness called in the barman, Collard, who was in the stable, and afterwards went to the defendants and told them they were, by their presents on the premises, causing Mrs. Hinds to run a great risk. She told them they were not travellers, having been at the "Bell," and should not have come to the house for refreshments. Defendants did not reply to witness, but Collard, who was present spoke to Robert Miles and said that he, being a publican, ought to have known better. Mr. Miles replied "All right, old man, don't look so white and spiteful" and, addressing the others, said "Come on, drink up, and let us get out." They all went out, saying, "Good night to Collard. Witness closed the door after them.

Cross examined: She fixed the time by looking at the clock in the bar when she heard the knock. Witness did not know until afterwards that defendants had put up their trap at the house, and had come to fetch it away. She knew it before they left, and saw the trap outside as she closed the door.

Ambrose Collard, barman at the "White Horse," said he occasionally acted as ostler. On March 12th Ruff brought the trap to the yard about 8 p.m., or soon after. Between a quarter and twenty minutes past ten Miss Jeffries called witness into the bar and asked him to see who the defendants were. He knew three of them by name and two by site. Witness said to Mr. Robert Miles (who kept the "Sun," at St. Nicholas,) "It's past time, and you ought to know better." He replied, "Alright, old chap, don't look so white and spiteful." Defendants finished their drinks, and said "Good night." Witness did not answer. He had assisted Ruff to put the horse in.

Cross examined:- Witness did not say "Good night" because he was annoyed at the remarks they made to him.

Mrs. Martha Hinds, licensee of the "White Horse," said she was in the living room when the bar was closed. She heard a knock twice about 10:15, and corroborated the barmaids evidence with respect to the subsequent conversation.

Cross examined:- She did not hear all the conversation.

John Abraham Tyler, licensee of the "Bell," present on subpoena, said there was a smoking concert at his house on March 12th, and the defendants were present. Witness knew the Messrs. Miles by name and the other three defendants by sight. Four of the defendants were served with drinks just before they left the "Bell." Witness did not serve Ruff at the time, but had previously done so in the evening.

Cross examined:- A smoking concert was in connection with the local Conservative Association.

Dr. Hardman, on behalf of defendant, said that the onus of proving two things rested with the prosecution firstly, that the representation was made by the defendant's that they were travellers, secondly, that such representation was false. There was, he submitted, no evidence given by the prosecution to show that it was false, and considered that if the matter was to rest upon a point of Law his friends, Mr. Whitehead, might have dealt with the case of "Oldham v. Shearsby," one on all fours with the present case. That was a case in which persons who were undoubtedly travellers visited a place and went to two inns, at both of which they were served with refreshment. The magistrates held that the defendant's were not bona fide travellers when the second inn was visited, but the refinements in the minds of the justice's was set right by the Queen's Bench Division. In support of his contention that defendants were travellers within the meaning of the act, Dr. Hardman mentioned the case of "Dames v. Bond." In that case and man had come from a distance to sing at a smoking concert and when he was going back the people at the end supplied him with a bottle of whiskey. It was held that he was a traveller, and the circumstance that he had been in the place several hours did not alter the fact. The only case his (Dr. Hardmans) friend could quote against him was that of "Penn v. Alexander," but he argued that that was not a similar one. In the case of "Penn v. Alexander" it was proved that the defendants walked beyond the 3 mile limit solely for the purpose of getting beer, and I not, therefore, bonafide travellers. That was a very useful case, for it laid down an important principle of law. It had not been proved in the present instance that defendants came to Minster solely to get drink at the "White Horse." Dr. Hardman remarked on the curious reason which have been given for these proceedings being taken viz., that Mrs. Hinds was seeking to protect herself and ensure that there should be no opposition to a licence. Why should these five men be held up before the bench simply because Mrs. Hinds wished to take the precaution of that kind? If she had reported the matter to the police it would have been a reasonable action, but he did not think it right that Mrs. Hinds should bring the men up when there was uncertainty and her solicitor was uncertain that a case should be made out. Proceding, Dr. Hardman alluded to the allegation that the defendant's have represented themselves to be travellers, and said the evidence proved that one of the party made any statement on the subject. Silent acquiescence did not serve as a statement, and, even if it could have been proved that representations were made all the members of the party, he submitted that it had been simply shown that such representations would have been absolutely true. They asked the Bench to say that a case for the prosecution had failed.

The Bench retired, and, after deliberating in private for some time, the Chairman said:- In this case the Bench decide that, as a matter of Law, no offence has been committed, and, therefore, the case is dismissed, at the same time they wish to state that Mrs. Hinds was perfectly justified in bringing the case forward.

Dr. Hardman asked for costs, on the grounds that, although Mrs. Hinds might have been perfectly justified, she had set the law in motion, and should pay the expenses of the defendant's.

The chairman:- The Bench cannot grant you the costs in this case.

 

Now a private residence.

 

LICENSEE LIST

GISBY John 1740- Wingham Ale Licences 1740

GOULDER Edward 1841-58+ Bagshaw's Directory 1847

CHAPMAN George 1867-74+ Post Office Directory 1874

PHILLIPS George 1881+

SHEERMAN James 1882+

BEERLING Llewellyn 1890-91+ (age 27 in 1891Census)

AUSTEN H Mr to Jan/1898

STOLES Robert Sturt Jan/1898+

HINDS Thomas Fisher 1899+ Kelly's 1899

HINDS Martha Mrs 1901-03+

FAGG Henry T 1913+

GOSDEN William E 1934+ Kelly's 1934

WITHERS Albert George Next pub licensee had pre 1961

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Wingham Ale Licences 1740From Wingham Division Ale Licences 1740 Ref: KAO - QRLV 3/1

Bagshaw's Directory 1847From Bagshaw Directory 1847

Post Office Directory 1874From the Post Office Directory 1874

Kelly's 1899From the Kelly's Directory 1899

Kelly's 1934From the Kelly's Directory 1934

 

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