41 Watling Street
Canterbury
Above photo, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe, showing the location in 2017.
If the buildings were of "normal" size, then the "Toby
Fillpot" would have been to the left of the Oasis Cafe and the "Dane
John Tavern" where the street lamp is. Tina M's site supports the idea
that the numbering ran then (late 19th Century) as it does now:
consecutively. That puts 38 and 41 on the same side of the road as the
entrance to the Dane John Gardens, opposite the Bus Station. |
Above 1874 map identification by Rory Kehoe. |
I would imagine that this is another house that was
damaged during the war and probably demolished shortly afterwards.
In 1869-70 the pub was part of a consortium who were advertising their
goods of selling tea in response to grocers' selling beer and wine. (Click
for further details.)
Further information kindly received from Len Parrick tells me that indeed
it was another to suffer war damage in the 31st October raid of 1942 and was
demolished in the late 1940s. He also says that the pub, being so close to
the "Dane John brewery" may well have been the brewery tap.
Maidstone Journal and Kentish Advertiser, Monday 11 September 1865.
Application for New Licences.
Mr. George Potter, landlord of the "Toby Philpott," which has
recently been sold, and is about to be turned into offices, applied
for a licence for a house close by the "Toby Philpott," and which he
proposed to be called the "Dane John Tavern," this application was
granted.
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From the Whitstable Times, 20 December, 1902.
At the Police Court on Friday, before Mr. D. Amos (in the chair), Mr. G.
J. Drury, Mr. W. Nettersclift, and Mr. E. G. Stead, Mr. Arrowsmith
(Messrs. Kingsford and Co.), appeared on behalf of Messrs. Rigden and
Co., brewers, in reference to proposed alterations at the “Little Rose
Inn,” King Street, a, common lodging house which it is proposed to
convert into a licensed house. Plans were put in.
Mr. G. Wiltshire, builder, applied on behalf of Messrs. Ash and Co. as
to alterations at the “Dane John Tavern,” and put in plans.
Mr. W. J. Jennings, architects, handed in plans for the re-building of
the “Bat and Ball,” Old Dover road, and explained them.
The Chairman said that in view of the alterations which were coming into
force they deemed it undesirable to deal with any of these applications
at the present time.
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Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald, 24 January 1942.
Canterbury licensee on receiving charge.
Soldiers evidence of petrol left at public house.
Accused denials.
Evidence that Army petrol had been taken to Canterbury licensed premises
was given by two soldiers at Canterbury Police Court on Friday when
Percival Whitehead, "Dane John Tavern," Watling Street, Canterbury,
appeared on remand on a charge of receiving 26 gallons of petrol
well-knowing it to have been stolen.
When Whitehead first appeared before the court he elected, through his
solicitor, Mr. H. W. S. Homewood, to be tried by jury.
The evidence was taken on Friday.
Sergeant-Major E. S. Cozens, R.A.S.C. stated that a check of vehicles on
October 7th revealed that 26 gallons of petrol were missing. Some was in
4 gallon containers and the rest had been siphoned from tanks.
A container was produced, and witness said it was similar to the ones
used by his unit, but, in reply to Mr. Homewood, witness said he could
not swear that the container came from his unit.
Before the next two witnesses gave evidence, Inspector Port said that
these men have been dealt with and they, therefore, had no fear of
incriminating themselves.
Driver R. G. Gonderton, R.A.S.C. said towards the end of August last
year, Whitehead asked him if he could get him any water (meaning petrol)
and if so in what quantities. Arrangements were made that he should get
what petrol he could and take it to Whitehead for sale at two shillings
a gallon. He did not take any petrol to prisoner at the time, but in the
early part of October he managed to get about 26 gallons from the unit
where he was stationed. He took it in Army containers in an Army staff
car to the "Dane John Tavern." Driver Cox accompanied witness on the
journey and it was after 10 p.m. Whitehead answered the knock on the
back door and witness told him he had bought some petrol. Whitehead
replied "Bring it in." The Army car was in the cul-de-sac leading to the
back door, and the petrol was unloaded, and taken inside and placed in a
small lean-to in the backyard. Whitehead called them inside, gave them
each a pint of beer and about £3 2s. 6d. for the petrol. Witnesses not
seen Whitehead since.
Driver C. J. Cox R.A.S.C. said that when he left his unit he did not
know he was going to the "Dane John Tavern." He did know by the time he
arrived. Before the petrol was unloaded, witness walked to the end of
the cul-de-sac to keep watch.
Detective Sergeant Webb stated that on December 15th he went with
detective Constable Soutan to the "Dane John Tavern. He had a search
warrant, and when he told Whitehead the reason of the visit he said "This
looks as if it might be serious but you can search where you like, but
you will find no petrol." On making a search witness found the petrol
can (produced) in the cellar. Asked to explain how it came to be in his
possession, Whitehead replied "I have had it for a long time, I keep it
for wood." Questioned as to whether he had a car Whitehead said he had
and that he garaged it at the Langton Garage but it was not in use as he
had no petrol. Witness found that there was petrol in the tank of the
car. When told of the warrant for his arrest, Whitehead said "I don't
understand." When charged, Whitehead said "It is absolutely false."
In cross examination, witness said the proprietor of the garage told him
he had cans in his garage similar to the one produced in court, but he
did not say he had given this one to Whitehead.
Answering the Bench, Sergeant Webb stated that Whitehead's car was
licensed.
This was the case for the prosecution.
Mr. Homewood said his client wished it to be placed on record that he
knew nothing whatever about the charge.
Sidney P. Godden, a motor mechanic, Langton Garage, residing at 88, Old
Dover Road, Canterbury, who was called by the defence, said that when
the police and Whitehead visited the Garage, Whitehead remarked "You
remember this can don't you, Sid?" (pointing to the one which Sergeant
Webb was carrying.) Witness did not examine it but it was the same as
one which he had given Whitehead.
Witness said he recognise the can as the actual one by certain marks.
Under cross-examination by Inspector Port, witness said he could not be
absolutely certain about the can.
Whitehead, who reserved his defence, was granted an extension of his
bail, pending the hearing of the charge by the jury.
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Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald, 28 February 1942.
Licensee again remanded. On receiving charge.
Percival Whitehead, licensee of the "Dane John Tavern," Watling Street,
Canterbury, appeared on remand at Canterbury Police Court on Tuesday on
a charge of receiving 26 gallons of petrol, the property of the King,
well knowing the same to have been stolen.
Mr. H. W. S. Holmewood appeared for Whitehead, who had at the previous
Court elected to be tried by a jury.
The Chief Constable (Mr. G. T. Hall,) applying for a further remand,
said that at present time witnesses were not obtainable as they were
away from the city.
Mr. Homewood said that actually accused did not like the charge hanging
over his head, but no objection would be taken to a further remand.
Accused was remanded till January 16th, bio being allowed as before.
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Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald, 27 December 1942.
Canterbury licensee not guilty.
Percival Whitehead, licensee of the "Dane John Tavern," Watling Street,
Canterbury, who had elected to be tried by a jury on a charge alleging
that he received 26 gallons of War Department petrol knowing the same to
have been stolen, was found not guilty at Kent and sizes on Wednesday,
and he was discharged. |
LICENSEE LIST
POTTER George Sept/1865+
CAREY John to Feb/1867 (Don John House)
FLEURY Thomas Feb/1867+ (Don John House)
PORTER A G 1868-70+
FOREMAN Mrs M A S 1874+
MURKIN John 1882+
WEBB John 1891+
HADLOW Alfred H W 1903+
BAYLEY Richard Jewell 1911+ (age 43 in 1911)
MILES A 1913+
WHITEAR Miss A C 1922-30+
MOORES Fras Herbert 1938+
WHITEHEAD Percival 1942+
https://pubwiki.co.uk/DaneJohnTavern.shtml
Greens
Canterbury Directory 1868
From the Post Office Directory 1874
From the Post Office Directory 1882
From the Kelly's Directory 1882
From the Post Office Directory 1891
From the Post Office Directory 1903
From the Kelly's Directory 1903
From the Post Office Directory 1913
From the Post Office Directory 1922
From the Post Office Directory 1930
From the Post Office Directory 1938
Historic
Canterbury web site www.machadoink.com
Whitstable Times
Census
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