DOVER KENT ARCHIVES
PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Barry Smith and Paul Skelton

Earliest 1860

Deal Cutter

Latest Dec 1909

10 Beach Street and 18 Seven Star Street

Deal Cutter 1910

Above photo taken in 1910, just after closure. Kindly sent by Stuart Kinnon.

 

An outlet of George Beer, fully licensed and at different times having as its' neighbour, the "Seven Star Inn", The "Admiral" and the "Miner's Arms". Norris filled the jars in 1861 and we also had a "Folkestone Cutter" so having associations with the revenue service maybe.

 

An amusing chapter in its history occurred in the last century when the licensee Mr. Foreman departed this earthly coil in 1880. Nobody seems to have considered the brewer or the justices important enough to be acquainted with the fact and the licence continued to be issued in his name up to 1884, the matter then coming to light. Without fuss, it was then transferred to his widow who had kept the pumps working meanwhile without complaint and indeed, by the time the error was discovered she had selected another lover and remarried shortly afterwards.

 

I note that a closing order was made in 1912. That must have referred to the property as such. The pub had already been closed from 31 December 1909 by the Compensation Authority. It was stated then that it had changed hands seven times in twenty five years. No compensation figures came to light and in February 1909 it was one of twenty nine licensed premises in the pier district.

For photo of Beach Street click here.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer, 9 January, 1874. Price 1d.

TRANSFERS

The license of the "Deal Cutter" was transferred to William Weatherhead, formerly commissionaire in the employ of Mr. Birmingham. ("Lord Warden Hotel")

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, 5 February, 1909.

DOVER LICENSING SESSIONS

THE DEAL CUTTER

This was an objection to the renewal of the licence of the Deal Cutter, Beach Street, by the Chief Constable.

Mr. R. Mowll appeared for the owners Messrs. Beer and Co., Canterbury.

The Chief Constable said that the "Deal Cutter Inn" was a fully licensed house situated in Beach Street, the owners being Messrs. G. Beer and Co., Canterbury. the present tenant was C. Walton, and it was transferred to him on February 3rd, 1908. It had had seven tenants in nine years. The rateable value was 20 gross and 16 net.

Mr. Mowll: The tenants, seven in nine, and eight in 25 years? - I did not know that; by book only gives since 1899.

Witness added that the licensed premises in the immediate neighbourhood were the "Miners Arms," next door, to which he was objecting, the "Sceptre," Beach Street, 18 yards distant, the "Railway Bell," Beach Street, 31 yards, the "Terminus," Beach Stree, 73 yards, the "Brussles," beach Street, 78 yards, the "Pier Inn," Beach Street, 96 yards, and the buffet at the South-Eastern Station opposite. The inn is one of 29 licensed houses in the Pier district. In Beach Street there were 25 houses, seven being licensed premises, and 18 private houses, of which five are unoccupied.  There is an entrance to this house from Seven Star Street, where there are several houses. The frontage is 13ft. 4in. There is one entrance at front and one bar. There is also an entrance from Seven Star Street. At 12.10 p.m. on January 16th, there was one customer. At 2.50 p.m. on 20th January, no customers. At 10.50 a.m. on Saturday, January 23rd, no customers. At 6.30 p.m. on January 28th, no customers.

Cross-examined by Mr. Mowll: Do you not think that it would be a more important fact to mention, that the number of private houses in this street, that it is immediately opposite the South-Eastern Station? - I have not said anything about the South-Eastern Station. There are very few trains running into that station now: they run through to the Harbour station.

The Mayor said he did not see the value of that question. Considering there were, out of 25 houses, that the evidence of redundancy.

Mr. Mowll said it would be if it were only these people that the public houses could expect to supply; but they were immediately opposite the South-Eastern Station. There were twelve trains that came into that station from Folkestone alone every day. It must be admitted quite reasonable criticism to say there were just so many public houses just by it when it was immediately opposite a great centre of traffic like a railway station.

The Chief Constable: A good many of those trains do not put passengers down at that platform.

The Mayor: The buffet is immediately opposite; anyone could get anything there.

Mr. Mowll said that he as afraid the sight of the Chief Constable and a detective visiting a public house gave rather a sinister aspect to it. The number of customers did not increase after it.

The Mayor: Did you see anyone leaving as you went in?

The Chief Constable: No.

The Bench retired to consider their decisions in the four cases, and returned in a very few moments and announced that each would be put forward for compensation, the licenses would only be provisionally renewed

 

Dover Express 23rd July 1909.

Town, Port & Garrison.

At a meeting of the East Kent Compensation Authority held at Canterbury on Wednesday, the licences of the following public houses in Dover were refused, subject to compensation, notice having been received from the owners that they raised no objection to that course: "George Hotel," Snargate Street (Albert Fitzroy Bidgood), "Deal Cutter," Beach Street, (Clarence Walton), "Miner’s Arms," Beach Street, (John Mummery).

 

From the Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald, Saturday 16 October, 1909.

EAST KENT COMPENSATION AUTHORITY.

A meeting of the East Kent Compensation Authority was held at the Guildhall, Canterbury, on Tuesday, under the chairmanship of Lord Harris, the other members of the Committee present being:- The Earl of Guilford, Lieut.-Col. S. Newton Dickenson, and Messrs. H. Fitzwalter Plumptre, H. S. Chapman. F. H. Wilbee, F. E. Burke, and H. H. Green.

Compensation in respect of a number of houses was allocated.

"Deal Cutter.” Beach Street, Dover, alehouse, tenant. Mr. Clarence Walton, owners, Messrs. G. Beer and Co., Star Brewery, Canterbury, and Mr. Jessie Hind, solicitor, Nottingham (mortgagee).

Total agreed upon 921, brewers to have 311, and the tenant 10 and a receipt for 80 13s. 6d.

Approved.

 

LICENSEE LIST

NORRIS John Smith 1858-61+ Melville's 1858

PRESCOTT Richard 1860's?

WITHERDEN William Jan/1874-75 end Dover ExpressPost Office Directory 1874

Last pub licensee had FOREMAN John 1875-84 end

Last pub licensee had FOREMAN D 1880 dec'd

FOREMAN Mrs Elizabeth 1882-Sept/84+ Post Office Directory 1882

WILSON Thomas Sept/1884-1899 Post Office Directory 1891Pikes 1895Kelly's Directory 1899 (Husband of Foreman)

CURLING Charles Finch to Jan/1900 Dover Express

DRIVER William Henry (short stay in) Jan/1900+ Dover Express

TAYLOR Walter Jan/1900-04 Dover ExpressPost Office Directory 1903Post Office Directory 1903

PHIPPEN A 1904-05

JEFFORD WaIter Thomas 1905-06 dec'd

DRIVER W H 1906 end

HILTON Samuel 1906-Feb/08 Dover Express

WALTON Clarence Feb/1908-09 Dover Express

 

Clarence Walton was a private in the 2nd York and Lancashire Regiment before taking on the Deal Cutter.

 

Melville's 1858From Melville's Directory 1858

Post Office Directory 1874From the Post Office Directory 1874

Post Office Directory 1882From the Post Office Directory 1882

Post Office Directory 1891From the Post Office Directory 1891

Pikes 1895From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1895

Kelly's Directory 1899From the Kelly's Directory 1899

Post Office Directory 1903From the Post Office Directory 1901

Post Office Directory 1903From the Post Office Directory 1903

Dover ExpressFrom the Dover Express

 

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