10 Tontine Street
Folkestone
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Folkestone Observer 26 June 1869.
Saturday, June 19th: Before Captain Kennicott R.N. and James Tolputt
Esq.
Charles Drew was charged with keeping his house open after 11 o'clock
on the night of Sunday last.
The Bench fined the defendant £1 with costs.
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Folkestone Observer 6 January 1870.
Transfer of License.
Wednesday, January 5th: Before R.W. Boarer, C. Doridant, C. Dashwood, J.
Clark and J. Gambrill sqs.
Mr. Minter, solicitor, applied on behalf of Mr. Wm. Swain for the
necessary authority to retail beer on the premises in Tontine Street,
recently occupied by Mr. Charles Drew, who, Mr. Minter stated, had
absconded, taking the license with him. The owners now had possession of
the premises, and had let them to Mr. Swain. The application was
granted.
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Folkestone Chronicle 8 January 1870.
Wednesday, January 5th: Before C. Doridant, R.W. Boarer, J. Gambrill,
C.H. dashwood and J. Clark esqs.
William Swaine applied for permission to sell beer at a house in Tontine
Street, lately occupied by Charles Drew, who held a license from the
Bench and who had absconded. Mr. Minter supported the application and it
was granted.
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Folkestone Express 8 January 1870.
Granting Licenses.
Wednesday, January 5th: Before The Mayor, R.W. Boarer, C. Dashwood, J.
Clarke, and J. Gambrill Esqs.
William Swain applied for power to sell beer at the house of Charles
Drew, in Tontine Street.
Mr. Minter supported the application, and stated that Drew had
absconded, taking the license granted by the Magistrates at the last
annual meeting with him.
The applicant was sworn, and deposed to serving the necessary notices.
The application was granted.
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Southeastern Gazette 23 June 1879.
Local News.
On Tuesday evening a labouring man, named Thomas Glover, was hurt during
a quarrel with two other men at the Duke of Edinburgh beerhouse. P.C.
Keeler was sent for to clear the house, and found the man lying on the
floor. He said his leg was broken. A fly was obtained, and he was
removed to the police station, where Drs. Bateman and Mercer set the
limb, which was broken just above the ankle.
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Folkestone Express 27 August 1881.
Saturday, August 20th: Before The Mayor, Alderman Banks, and F. Boykett
Esq.
George Jull was charged with being drunk and refusing to quit the Duke
Of Edinburgh beershop, and also with using obscene language on the 10th
inst. He pleaded Guilty, and evidence having been given as to the facts
of the case he was fined 10s. for refusing to quit the house, and 8s.
costs, and 5s. and 8s. costs for using obscene language.
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Folkestone Express 2 May 1885.
Wednesday, April 29th: Before The Mayor, Aldermen Caister and Sherwood,
Captain Fletcher, J. Fitness, J. Clark, W.J. Jeffreason and J. Holden
Esqs.
The licence of the Duke Of Edinburgh was transferred to Mr. H.W.
Bridges.
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Folkestone News 2 May 1885.
Local News.
At the Police Court on Monday, before The Mayor, Captain Carter, J.
Fitness, T. Caister, J. Clark, W.J. Jeffreason, J. Sherwood and J.
Holden Esqs., the Duke Of Edinburgh was transferred to Mr. A.W. Bridges.
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Folkestone Express 21 July 1888.
Saturday, July 14th: Before The Mayor, H.W. Poole Esq., and Surgeon
General Gilbourne.
Temporary authority was granted to John Harrison to sell at the Duke Of
Edinburgh, Tontine Street.
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Folkestone Express 14 February 1891.
Advertisement.
To Let: The Duke Of Edinburgh, Tontine Street, Folkestone. Capital
beerhouse, under good brewers. Apply T.J. Harrison, Auctioneer and
Valuer, 20, Alexandra Gardens, Folkestone.
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Holbein's Visitors' List 18 March 1891.
Wednesday, March 11th: Before W. Wightwick Esq., Surgeon General
Gilbourne, and W.G. Herbert Esq.
The license of the Duke Of Edinburgh was transferred.
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Folkestone Express 25 April 1891.
Transfer.
Wednesday, April 22nd: Before J. Clark, J. Fitness, J. Pledge, J. Holden
and E.T. Ward Esqs.
The licence of the Duke Of Edinburgh, Tontine Street, was transferred to
Mr. F. Ralph.
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Folkestone Chronicle 18 July 1891.
Local News.
At the Folkestone police court on Tuesday, James McCarthy was charged
with stealing a large quantity of house linen, valued at £5 12s., the
property of Miss Campbell.
From the evidence of Henry Robus it appears that he was in charge of
Miss Campbell's house – 67, Brockman Road. The stolen goods were safely
locked in the house on Sunday night, but he missed them on Wednesday.
Upon examination he found the storm sash at the back of the house had
been broken, and also the glass in the inner window, so that anyone
could get in.
The prisoner lodged at the Oddfellows Inn (sic), and it was stated by
the landlady that he was absent all Tuesday night and came home on
Wednesday morning. He opened a bundle and showed her the articles
produced, and as she had suspicions she sent for the police. When
questioned by Supt. Taylor he said he had obtained them in the ordinary
way of dealing, but declined to say where.
Mrs. Edith Ralph, of the Duke Of Edinburgh, stated that the prisoner
offered some towels for sale at her bar, and she and a woman named
Davison bought a number, but took them to the police station afterwards.
Statements were also made by Stephen Bailey and Jane Davis, who were at
the Oddfellows when McCarthy returned. He asked them what they thought
of his night's work.
The Magistrates committed him for trial.
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Folkestone Express 18 July 1891.
Thursday, July 16th: Before Alderman Dunk and J. Fitness Esq.
James McCarthy was charged with stealing a quantity of house linen,
value £5 12s., the property of Miss Campbell, from a house in Brockman
Road.
P.C. Walter Down said he went on Wednesday at 9.30 a.m. to the
Oddfellows in Radnor Street, and there saw a bundle containing the
property now produced. Prisoner afterwards came in, and he asked if the
bundle belonged to him. Prisoner said it did, and he bought the goods in
Folkestone, but declined to say where he got them.
Prisoner: I object to leading questions. It is against all order. It
don't give me a chance. I haven't got much as it is.
Witness: He said he came by them honestly, but declined to say where he
bought them, or who he bought them of. At the police station
Superintendent Taylor asked prisoner where he got the clothes. Prisoner
replied “In the ordinary way of dealing, but I decline to tell you
where”. The bundle contained ten sheets, two tablecloths, a towel, a
toilet cover, 16 pillow cases, two pairs of curtains, four valances.
They were all marked “Owen”, and had lot tickets upon them.
Henry Robus said on the 17th July, 1889, he attended a sale of the
effects of Mr. D. Owen, at 67, Brockman Road, and purchased through
Smith, a broker, lots 215 to 225, and afterwards made them up into a
bundle, and took them to a house in Brockman Road belonging to Miss Mary
Campbell. There was no other furniture in the house at the time. The
house was in his charge – securely locked and the windows were fastened.
He was in the house on Sunday at 11.30, and the articles were then safe,
just as he put them there two years ago. He went to the house on
Wednesday, and the goods were then missing. He examined the house, and
found the glass of the storm sash at the back of the drawing room
broken, and also the glass of the inner window, so that anyone could get
in.
Prisoner: Where did you get your information?
Witness declined to answer.
Prisoner: Could a man of my size get in the window? – Yes. I could get
in.
Jane Davis, wife of a labourer, lodging at the Oddfellows Arms, said she
saw the prisoner there on Wednesday morning. He asked her to go down
into the scullery and see his night's work. She went down, and he untied
the bundle of linen. He gave her 18 towels to take up to Mrs. Carter to
sell to get a drink. She was to ask 2s. for them. She returned and told
him Mrs. Carter refused to buy them, saying they were stolen property.
Stephen Bailey said on Wednesday he saw the prisoner in the scullery at
the Oddfellows. He showed him a bundle, and asked “What do you think of
my night's work?”, and asked him to feel the weight of it. He opened it
and showed him the sheets and pillowcases, and offered to sell him a
pair of sheets for a shilling, and also asked him to stand a drink. When
Mrs. Carter came down she sent him for a constable.
Lucy Carter, landlady of the Oddfellows Inn, said the prisoner was
staying at her house three weeks ago, and remained 10 days. He went away
and returned on Saturday evening, and slept at her house on Saturday,
Sunday and Monday. He was absent all night on Tuesday, and came in about
seven o'clock on Wednesday. She went into the scullery and saw prisoner
there with a large bundle of linen. She asked him to show her the things
he had to sell. He opened the bundle and showed her tablecloths and
shirts. She told him he had not come by them honestly, and that he was
to take them away. She then sent for a policeman. Prisoner left the
house with some of the articles in a handbasket.
Edith Ralph, wife of the landlord of the Duke Of Edinburgh, Tontine
Street, said the prisoner went to her private bar on Wednesday with some
towels, which he asked her to buy. She bought ten for 1s. 10d.. She saw
they were marked “Owen”, and took them to the police station.
Jemima Davison, of 6, South Street, produced two towels which she
purchased of prisoner in the Duke Of Edinburgh for 3d.
Prisoner said he wished to be remanded or committed for trial, and then
he would make a statement to the police which would very likely clear
him, which it would not do if he spoke it in open court. He believed he
was quite justified in selling the things, and came by them in a
perfectly honest manner. He expected someone would have been present
when they knew he was in trouble, to say how he came by them.
Prisoner was committed for trial at the Sessions.
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Folkestone Visitors' List 14 October 1891.
Quarter Sessions.
The Quarter Sessions on Monday occupied seven hours – an unusual time
for Folkestone.
James McCarthy, 29, described as an engine fitter, pleaded Not Guilty to
stealing, in a house in Brockman Road, a quantity of linen &c., the
goods of Miss Campbell, on the 16th July. Mr. Glyn prosecuted.
Prisoner defended himself with considerable ability, and his defence was
that he received the goods from a soldier of the 17th Lancers, and was
disposing of them for him when he was apprehended. The case occupied
over two hours, and a verdict was returned of Guilty on the second
charge, that of receiving the goods knowing them to have been stolen.
The Recorder sentenced prisoner to three months' hard labour, taking
into consideration the fact that he had already been nearly three months
in prison awaiting his trial.
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Folkestone Chronicle 17 October 1891.
Quarter Sessions.
Monday, 12th October: Before J.C. Lewis Coward Esq.
A true bill was returned against James McCarthy, who was charged with
having, on the 15th of last July, stolen from the dwelling house of Mary
Campbell, Brockman Road, two dimity curtains, four valances, three pairs
of linen sheets, and a number of towels, of the value of £5 12s.
Mr. L. Glyn prosecuted, and the prisoner, who pleaded Not Guilty, was
not defended.
P.C. Walter Down was called and stated that on Wednesday, the 15th of
July, about half past nine in the morning, he went to the Oddfellows Inn
(sic), Radnor Street. He there saw the bundle produced. It contained the
articles which were the subject of the present charge. Shortly after his
arrival at the Oddfellows, the prisoner entered. He asked him if the
bundle belonged to him. He said “Yes”. Witness asked him where he got
them from, and he replied “I came by them honestly. I bought them at
Folkestone”. He then asked the prisoner to take him to the place where
he bought them, but he refused to. He told the prisoner he should take
him to the police station on suspicion of having stolen the goods.
By the prisoner: Witness was called to the Oddfellows about half past
nine, and about twenty minutes elapsed after he first saw the prisoner.
He went to the station quietly and seemed to take it in good humour. He
did not consider it necessary to handcuff prisoner. When he (prisoner)
went into the Rendezvous, witness waited outside for him. He suggested
that witness should go back to the Oddfellows and wait for the man who
sold them.
The Recorder: Do I understand you allowed him to go and have a drink
after you arrested him?
Witness: Yes, sir; he was determined to go.
The Recorder: A very obliging policeman, but it is fortunate for you
there wasn't a back door.
Supt. Taylor said he remembered prisoner being brought to the station.
Witness told him he had been brought there on suspicion of having stolen
the goods. He said he was a dealer and had bought them. Witness asked
him of whom, and he answered that he bought them at Folkestone, and had
come by them honestly.
At the request of the prisoner Supt. Taylor produced a statement which
the prisoner made after he had been committed for trial and also a
letter which he wrote in prison. Nothing was known against him by the
London Police and he could not have obtained information easily without
the prisoner's help. There were no scratches on his face to indicate
scratches by broken glass. He found that he was in company with a man in
uniform on the Monday and Tuesday nights. Prisoner said the man belonged
to the 17th Lancers. He had seen the Sergeant Major and had had the
regiment paraded.
Henry Robus proved having purchased the articles at the sale of Mr.
Owen, for Miss Campbell, on the 17th July. 1889. They were all marked
“Owen”. He took them to 21, Brockman Road. He visited the house on the
Sunday before the robbery. The goods were all right then.
Jane Davis said she was employed at the Oddfellows Inn. On the morning
in question prisoner showed her the articles and asked her what she
thought of his night's work. He gave her 13 towels to take to Mrs.
Carter to sell for 2s. Mrs. Carter said she would see about it when she
came down. Mrs. Carter was ill and could not attend that day.
Prisoner: What's the matter with her?
Witness: She's ill.
Prisoner: Yes, with the perjury! She committed gross perjury before the
Magistrates. I shall prove it presently.
Mr. Glyn put in a certificate, and the witness Davis said she was
suffering from dropsy and diseased kidneys.
Stephen Bailey, labourer, said he lodged at the Oddfellows. The prisoner
also asked him what he thought of his night's work. He asked him to lend
him twopence for a drink, and to buy a pair of sheets for 1s. He did not
buy them.
Mr. Glyn then read the depositions of Mrs. Carter, which were given
before the Magistrates. She stated that the prisoner slept at her house
on Saturday, Sunday and Monday nights. He was absent on the Tuesday
night and came home at seven o'clock on the morning of the 15th. At
quarter to eight prisoner was in the scullery, and when he asked her to
buy some towels she said “You didn't come by these things honestly and
take them out of my house. Where did you get them from?” He said “Mind
your own business”.
Edith Ralph, wife of the landlord of the Duke Of Edinburgh, stated that
the prisoner brought some towels into the bar and she gave him 1s. 10d.
for ten. When she found the name “Owen” on them she took them up to
Supt. Taylor.
Jemima Davidson, of 6, South Street, stated that she bought two towels
from prisoner for 3d.
This was the case for the prosecution, and prisoner called Charles
William Young, Master of the Elham Union Workhouse. He stated that
prisoner was admitted to the Workhouse Infirmary on the 24th of June and
was discharged on the 13th of July (Monday). He was in bed the whole
time, and was discharged at his own request.
Prisoner said that proved the perjury on the part of the witness Carter,
who stated that he slept at the Oddfellows on the Saturday, Sunday and
Monday, whereas he was not discharged from the Workhouse until the
Monday.
George Bean, landlord of the Perseverance, was called on the prisoner's
behalf, but did not put in an appearance.
Harry Stone, alias Lucas, stated that he saw prisoner in the
Perseverance at half past twelve on Monday. He remained in his company
until eleven at night. The next day he went into the Perseverance about
the same time and saw the prisoner. In the afternoon they went to
Cheriton to get a job for the prisoner. They went back to the
Perseverance, and in the evening a man came in dressed in soldier's
clothes. It was the uniform of the 17th Lancers. They all went out at
eleven o'clock. He went with Supt. Taylor, but was unable to identify
the soldier.
Prisoner then read a long statement. He said he had work to go to at
Cheriton at five o'clock on the Wednesday morning, and as he was the
worse for drink on Tuesday night, and fearing that he might overlay of
he went to the Oddfellows, he slept under a bathing machine on the
beach. He got to the White Lion, Cheriton, at five in the morning. His
employer did not turn up and whilst he was waiting a soldier came up
with the bundle of goods. They talked for some time. He said he was
Captain Owen's servant, and that he was going abroad and had given him
everything he did not want. He asked him (prisoner) if he knew where to
sell them, and he said very likely Mrs. Carter would buy them. The
soldier said he had another lot and if prisoner liked to take them to
the Oddfellows he could have the middle man's profits and he would
follow with the other bundle. He (prisoner) did not know they had been
stolen and carried the bundle through the open streets, passing a large
number of people on the way. Since he was arrested he had given every
assistance to the police.
The jury found prisoner Not Guilty of stealing the goods, but Guilty on
the second count of receiving them knowing them to have been stolen, and
he was sentenced to three calendar months' hard labour.
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Folkestone Express 17 October 1891.
Quarter Sessions.
Monday, October 11th: Before John Charles Lewis Coward Esq.
James McCarthy, 29, described as an engine fitter, was indicted for
stealing two dimity curtains, three pairs of linen sheets, and other
articles, the property of Mary Campbell, and which articles were left in
an unoccupied house in Brockman Road.
Mr. Glyn, instructed by Mr. Minter, prosecuted.
P.C. Down said on the 15th July he went to the Oddfellows Arms, in
Radnor Street, and was there shown the bundle of things produced. He saw
the prisoner come in and asked him if the bundle belonged to him.
Prisoner said “Yes”, and added that he came by them honestly - he bought
them in Folkestone. Witness asked him to go with him to the place where
he bought them, and he said “No”. He then told prisoner he should take
him to the station on a charge of stealing them.
By the prisoner: You took the matter lightly and good-humouredly, as
though there was nothing in it. You went into the Rendezvous and had a
drink while I stood outside.
The Recorder: Do I understand you allowed him to go into a public house
and have a drink while you had him in charge? – He was determined to go,
sir.
Supt. Taylor said he had a conversation with the prisoner at the police
station. He asked him to account for the possession of the goods. He
said “I bought them. I am a dealer”. He asked who he bought them of, and
he did not say – he said he came by them honestly.
Prisoner asked for the statement he made before the Magistrates, and a
letter he wrote from Canterbury to the Superintendent to be produced and
read to the jury.
Supt. Taylor put in a long statement made by the prisoner after his
committal, and the Recorder read it. It's purport was that he received
the articles of a soldier belonging to the 17th Lancers, who, he said,
was an officer's servant, and wanted to find a purchaser for them, and
on his (prisoner's) suggestion he was allowed to carry the bundle to the
Oddfellows. Next morning he sold some of the towels quite openly to get
a drink. The Recorder also read a long letter written by the prisoner
from Canterbury, in which he said he had been the landlord of a public
house at Devonport. He married the landlady and they separated by mutual
consent. His wife had allowed him upwards of a guinea a week. He had
also received two small legacies, and had written stories for weekly
journals, and had won money in newspaper prize competitions, so that he
had no necessity to work.
In reply to the prisoner, Supt. Taylor said all the information he gave
as to his antecedents was correct. The London police knew nothing. He
found by enquiry that the prisoner was in company with a man in uniform
two days previous to his arrest. There was no man in the 17th Lancers of
the description given by the prisoner. There was no Capt. Owen in the
17th Lancers. Prisoner said a man named Stone or Lucas could identify
the man, and he took Stone to the Hounslow Barracks, where the 17th
Lancers had just arrived, but he could not identify anyone. The
statement made by the prisoner about his wife was not true. She had not
made him an allowance.
Henry Rebus proved purchasing the articles at a sale of Mr. Owen's goods
in 1889, for Miss Mary Campbell. The articles were all marked “Owen”,
and had lot tickets on them. He took them to a house belonging to Miss
Campbell, 29, Brockman Road, and locked them up in a room. He saw the
things safe as late at the 14th or 15th July of this year. He missed the
things on the 19th. The storm sash of the window had been broken open,
and the things were gone.
Jane Davis, wife of John Davis, a lodger at the Oddfellows Arms, said on
Wednesday morning, the 15th July, she saw the prisoner, who asked her to
go into the kitchen to see his night's work. She went, and untied the
bundle. He gave her thirteen towels to take up to Mrs. Carter to sell
for 2s. to get him a drink. She took them to Mrs. Carter, and brought
them back. Mrs. Carter said she would see about them when she got up.
She had seen Mrs. Carter that morning. She had been ill for a week and
was unable to attend.
Prisoner: What is the matter with Mrs. Carter? – I don't know.
Prisoner: Perhaps she has got perjury the matter with her. I can prove
she committed perjury before the Magistrates.
Witness said she had a doctor's certificate.
In answer to prisoner, witness said she lent him an open basket to take
the towels out in. There were about 20 people in the house.
Prisoner caused some amusement by reading a list of the people who were
in the house.
Stephen Bailey, another lodger at the Oddfellows, said the prisoner
asked him to feel the weight of a bundle of linen. He then asked him to
lend him 2d., or to give him 1s. for a pair of sheets. When Mrs. Carter
came down she sent for a policeman.
Mr. Glyn put in the deposition of Lucy Carter, and told prisoner the
doctor had been sent for, and when he arrived he would be allowed to put
questions to him. The deposition stated that the prisoner lodged in her
house on Saturday, Sunday and Monday, but was absent on Tuesday night.
He returned early on Wednesday.
Edith Ralph, wife of the landlord of the Duke Of Edinburgh Inn, Tontine
Street, said the prisoner went to her house with some towels in an open
basket. He asked her to buy some, and she bought 10 for 1s. 10d. In the
afternoon she examined them, and finding a name on them, she took them
to the police station. Prisoner told her he got the towels honestly.
In answer to the Recorder, witness said she had not heard of the robbery
before she took the towels to the Superintendent.
Jemima Davidson said she bought two towels of the prisoner in the Duke
Of Edinburgh for 3d.
Prisoner called Charles William Young, Master of the Elham Union
Workhouse, who stated that the prisoner was admitted to the infirmary on
the 24th June and discharged on the 13th July.
Prisoner said that proved the perjury of the witness Carter, who was so
ill she could not come.
Henry Stone, who said “Lucas” was his nickname, said he was a plasterer,
residing at Folkestone. He saw the prisoner in the Perseverance on
Monday from twelve o'clock until five or ten minutes to eleven, and on
Tuesday from 12.30 until eleven. There was a man there in soldier's
clothes on Tuesday night. His uniform was like that of the 17th Lancers.
Prisoner said he should like to get work in the town, and they went
together about eight o'clock to the Pavilion Fields to see if they
could get work. When they returned the soldier was still there, and they
left about eleven.
In reply to Mr. Glyn, witness said he went to Hounslow, and saw the
regiment paraded, but did not recognise the soldier among them.
Prisoner made a long statement, in which he attempted to show that he
was innocent in “thought, word, or deed”. Had he been guilty, it was not
likely he would have stayed in the town to be arrested.
Mr. Glyn, in his closing remarks to the jury, said that on his own
statement the prisoner was a thief, because he said he received goods
from a soldier and agreed to find a customer for them, instead of which
he sold a portion of them and spent the money on drink.
The Recorder, in summing up, said they must all regret to see a man
possessing the ability the prisoner had displayed standing in such a
position. He commented on the statements of the prisoner, and compared
them with the evidence, pointing out that there was proof that the
prisoner was dealing with the goods very shortly after they were stolen.
The jury, without leaving the box, found the prisoner Guilty of
receiving the goods knowing them to be stolen.
Superintendent Taylor produced a copy of the prisoner's discharge from
the army and a letter he had received relating to that part of the
prisoner's statement as to his keeping a public house. Nothing was known
about him by the London police. The address he gave was that of a court
which had been pulled down for improvements.
The Recorder said the jury had taken a merciful view of the case.
Prisoner had been in prison three months, and he would be sentenced
therefore to only three months' hard labour.
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Folkestone Herald 17 October 1891.
Quarter Sessions.
Monday, October 12th:
James McCarthy, 29, engine fitter, was sentenced to three months'
imprisonment for stealing two dimity curtains, three pairs of linen
sheets, and other articles, the property of Mary Campbell, from an
unoccupied house in Brockman Road.
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Folkestone Chronicle 11 October 1895.
Local News.
William Leary was summoned, on Wednesday, to appear before the
Magistrates to answer the charge of assaulting Ellen Harvey.
Previous to the hearing the defendant was sitting in the lobby, making a
great deal of noise and shouting. To stop this the police had to remove
him to the police station, and consequently he was was brought before
the Bench in semi-custody. The charge was read over to him, calling on
him to find sureties to keep the peace. This roused the prisoner's
indignation. “Sureties! Sureties! What do you mean?” he shouted. Some of
the people in Court laughed, and he turned round and shook his fist,
exclaiming “Don't you laugh at me!” The Magistrates did not consider the
defendant in a fit state to plead, and Sergeant Butcher stated that in
his opinion he was drunk. They therefore remanded him until Thursday.
“Take him below” said Sergeant Butcher. This was the signal for a
fearful outburst of rage on the defendant's part, and he struck out
right and left, nearly knocking over the witness box. Sergt. Swift and
the Town Sergeant, and others, came to assist, but they had all they
could do to get him to the cells, for he fought and kicked like a
maniac. Ultimately he was put safely under lock and key.
It appears that the man was charged with a violent assault some two
months ago, and on that occasion it took six or eight men to get him to
the station. He then appeared in the dock covered with blood, and
presenting a woeful appearance. His conduct at the station was so bad
that the poice were compelled to handcuff him in the cells. On his
liberation from prison Mr. Rowland Hill, the Police Court Missionary of
the C.E.T.S., got him work and supplied him with tools, but he never
went to it.
The man was brought up again on Thursday and presented a very different
appearance, a night in the cells having evidently sobered him.
In reply to the Chairman, he stated he was very sorry for his conduct in
Court the previous day. He had had something to drink. The Chairman said
as he had shown contrition the Bench would look over his conduct this
time.
Ellen Harvey, a single woman, said she lived at Castle Place. On Sunday
last she was in the Duke Of Edinburgh beerhouse with an old lady. He
came in and used bad language. He said that after shutting up time he
was going to kill her, and the people she lived with. She asked what she
had done to deserve such treatment. She then rushed out to the back of
the house. He followed her, and continued to do so until she was onliged
to obtain the protection of P.C. Bailey. He threatened her several
times. She went in bodily fear of him. She had offered to leave the town
herself if he would keep away from her. The witness here got very
excited, and implored the Bench to grant her protection. Previously she
had cohabited with him, but not since.
By the prisoner: I did not live with you since you came out of prison,
neither did we drink together. You have never given me money.
The prisoner said he had used threats, but the witness knew he never
intended to carry them out.
The prosecutrix said she had suffered greatly from the prisoner's
brutality.
The prisoner said if the Bench would look over the matter he would leave
the town.
The prosecutrix again implored the Magistrates to give her protection.
The Chairman said the case was clearly proved, but as he had undertaken
to leave the town, if he did so at once the Bench would give him the
opportunity of doing so. The prisoner said he would do so, and not
return at all.
The case was adjourned until Saturday. If he had left the town the case
would be at an end. If he did not it would be proceeded with.
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Folkestone Express 12 October 1895.
Wednesday, October 9th: Before Captain Carter, J. Fitness, W.G. Herbert,
T.J. Vaughan, R.J. Fynmore and G. Spurgen Esqs., and Alderman Sherwood.
William Leary was summoned for using threats towards Ellen Harvey, who
asked that he should be bound over to keep the peace.
Defendant behaved in an excited manner, and Sergeant Butcher gave
evidence to the effect that he had the defendant under observation
during the morning, and he was drunk. The case was therefore adjourned
till the next morning.
The defendant was requested to go below, when he became extremely
violent, and used disgusting language. He resisted with such force that
it took the united efforts of three constables and a civilian to remove
him from the Court.
Sergeant Butcher said the defendant had just come out of gaol after six
weeks' imprisonment.
On Thursday Leary was brought up again, and his demeanour was very
different. The lady, however, was in an excited state.
Captain Carter asked prisoner: What do you have to say to the Bench in
reference to your very unseemly conduct yesterday?
Prisoner: I am very sorry. I had some drink, and got very excited. It
shan't occur again.
Captain carter: I am glad to hear you express contrition. I certainly
never witnessed a scene of the kind in this court before. I don't know
whether my brother Magistrates will look over it. You were brought here
on a summons, and ought to behave yourself. We will hear the evidence.
Ellen Harvey said she lived at 8, Castle's Yard, and at half past nine
on Sunday night she was in the Edinburgh Tavern. The prisoner went in an
said “After shutting up time I am going to kill you and the people you
live with”. She asked him what she had done to deserve such treatment
from him, and rushed out at the back. Prisoner followed her about the
streets until half past eleven, and she had to get protection from P.C.
Bailey. Prisoner used very bad language, and threatened her so that she
went in bodily fear of him. She had offered to provide him with food if
he would go away from her. He had been in prison recently. Before that
they lived together, but not since. (The complainant got very excited,
and implored the Bench to give her protection).
Prisoner said he did use threats, but the complainant knew very well he
did not intend to do such things.
Complainant replied that she had suffered enough from his brutality.
Prisoner promised to leave the town if the Bench would allow him to
depart, and on the understanding that he would go away at once the case
was adjourned till Saturday.
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Folkestone Herald 8 October 1898.
Police Court Report.
On Wednesday – before Messrs. Hoad, Fitness, Pledge, and Salter – John
Smith was charged with stealing two live ducks, the property of Mr.
Gambrill.
Thomas Davis, a labourer, living at 20, Queen Street, deposed that he
knew the defendant. The previous morning, the 4th, about half past 10
a.m., he saw him in the Edinburgh beerhouse, in Tontine Street. He had a
bag containing something. He asked witness if he could “plant” two
mudlarks. Witness replied in the affirmative, and took the bag to Mr.
Baker. On the bag being untied, Mr. Baker took out two white ducks, for
which he finally gave witness 5s. 6d., promising to give another 6d. on
a subsequent occasion. Witness went back and found the defendant, who
took 4s, from him. Witness did not ask him where he got the ducks from.
A constable afterwards met witness.
Mr. William Baker, fishmonger, Sandgate Road, deposed that Davis, the
last witness, came to him the previous day. He brought the ducks in a
bag, and asked witness if he would buy them. Witness saw them in the
yard. He bought them for 5s. 6d., promising another 6d.
George Higgings, labourer, deposed that he had charge of the ducks and
poultry at Broadmead Manor. At 6 o'clock on Monday evening he saw them
locked up in a lodge. The next morning on going there he found the wire
netting pulled away. There was enough space for a man to get through. He
missed two ducks and a drake. On Tuesday he went to Mr. Baker's shop
with P.C. Johnson. He there saw the drake and one of the ducks. He
valued them at 4s. each. He fed them daily.
P.C. George W. Johnson deposed that about 6.30 p.m. the previous
evening, the 4th, from information received, he went to the Edinburgh
public house, Tontine Street, and saw Davis, who afterwards pointed out
the defendant. He said in the defendant's presence “This is the man who
gave me the ducks”. The defendant said “That's right. I found them along
the Lower Road about half past five in the morning”. Witness brought him
to the police station, where he was charged. Defendant said “That's
right. I shall have to explain matters”.
The defendant elected to be dealt with summarily, and pleaded Not
Guilty. He said he found the two ducks in a bag, tied up, in the Lower
Road. He took them, but he did not steal them.
The Bench sentenced him to one month's hard labour.
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Folkestone Up To Date 8 October 1898.
Wednesday, October 5th: Before J. Hoad, J. Pledge, J. Fitness, and
Salter Esqs.
John Smith was charged with stealing two ducks and one drake, the
property of Mr. Gambrill, Broadmead Manor.
Thomas Davis said: I am a labourer. I met the prisoner in the Edinburgh
beerhouse in Tontine Street. He had some ducks with him, and he asked me
if I could plant two mudlarks. I said “Yes, anyone would have them if
they were alive”. I untied the bag, and he took out two white ducks. I
asked what he wanted for them, and he said 5s. He took 4s., and told me
to keep the 1s. I did not ask him where he got the ducks from. I saw him
later in the day.
Mr. Williams said: i am a fishdealer etc., on the Sandgate Road. Davis
brought the ducks to me in a bag and asked if I would buy them. I bought
them for 6s. I paid 5s. 6d. and promised the extra 6d.
George Higgins said: I am a labourer at Broadmead Manor, in the employ
of Mr. Gambrill. On Monday evening the ducks were all safe locked up in
a lodge in the yard. The next morning I found the wire netting of the
woodwork cut away, and sufficient space for a man to get through. I
missed two white ducks and a drake. On Tuesday evening I went to Mr.
Williams's shop with P.C. Johnson, and there found a drake and one of
the ducks. The ducks were of my rearing. There were only six in the
lodge. I value them at 4s. each.
P.C. William Johnson said: About 6.30 p.m. last evening, the 4th, from
information received, I saw the witness Davis, who pointed out the
prisoner. Davis said in the prisoner's presence “This is the man who
gave me the ducks”. The pruisoner said “Alright. I found them on the
road this morning. I shall have to explain matters”. I took him into
custody.
The prisoner pleaded not guilty, and said that he found the ducks on
Tuesday morning in a bag on the Lower Road.
The prisoner was sentenced to a month' hard labour.
The Chairman remarked that the prisoner should bear in mind when he
found things to deliver them up to the police.
The prisoner: That is just where I was wrong.
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Folkestone Chronicle 31 March 1900.
Thursday, March 29th: Before Messrs. Hoad, Pledge, Vaughan, and Stainer,
and Col. Westropp.
John Whittingstall, a sailor, and John Cooper, ship's cook, were charged
with being concerned in stealing a cwt., value 1s. 9d., from the sailing
ship Brocklesbury.
Detective Burniston said: I was on duty yesterday morning in Harbour
Street. About 11.45 I was going towards the Harbour, when I saw
Whittingstall leave a ship which was lying in the Harbour. He was
carrying a sack, which I afterwards found contained coals. I followed
him into Tontine Street, when I saw him enter the public bar of the Duke
Of Edinburgh public house. I waited a few minutes and then went in
myself. I looked round the bar, but did not see Whittingstall. I saw
Mrs. Ralph, the landlady, who came from the back of the bar. I asked her
where the man had gone with the coals, and in company with Mrs. Ralph I
went down to the cellar. I there saw a daughter of Mrs. Ralph and
Whittingstall. The daughter was holding a lighted candle, and
Whittingstall was in the act of emptying coals out of a sack. I
prevented him from emptying the sack, and asked him where he got them
from. He replied “The cook on the Brocklesbury gave them to me”. I said
“Are you one of the crew?” He replied “No”. I then said, in the presence
of Mrs. Ralph, “How much have you paid this man for these coals?” She
replied “I have not paid him anything. I am going to give him some beer
for them”. She added “I hope you will not do anything to me. You can see
how I am”, and she repeated that she had not paid Whittingstall
anything. I then charged Whittingstall on suspicion with stealing the
coals, and took him into custody. I called P.C. Allen, and together we
went to the Harbour, where I saw Cooper on the quayside. In the presence
of Whittingstall I said “Have you given this man any coals?” He replied
“Yes”. I then brought Whittingstall to the police station, where he was
detained while I made further inquiries. Afterwards, with P.C. Allen, I
went to the Duke Of Edinburgh public house, took possession of the
coals, and brought them to the station. I then charged Whittingstall
with stealing them, and he made no reply. This morning I charged Cooper
with being concerned in stealing the coal, and he replied that he did
not know anything about it. When I first saw Whittingstall leaving the
ship with the bag upon his back, Cooper was standing by the cabin door.
Captain Wilmott, of the Brocklesbury, said: The prisoner Cooper is cook
on board the ship. On Tuesday the 27th March I left Folkestone for
Whitstable, and the mate was left in charge of the ship. I returned to
Folkestone yesterday, the 28th. In consequence of a message I received I
called at the police station, and then saw Detective Burniston, who
showed me a sack containing coal. I cannot identify the sack, nor the
coals. Prisoners had no authority either to sell coals or to give them
away on board the ship.
By the prisoner Whittingstall: I have had no previous complaint to make.
Whittingstall I have always found honest while in my employ.
Cooper here pleaded Not Guilty, and Whittingstall Guilty.
The Chairman, addressing Cooper, said there was a doubt in his case, of
which he would have the benefit, and he would be discharged.
Whittingstall, however, had pleaded Guilty to a serious charge. He was
an elderly man, but old enough to know better. He (the Chairman)
regretted that someone else was not in the dock beside the prisoner. The
sentence of the Court would be one month's hard labour, without the
option of a fine.
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Folkestone Express 31 March 1900.
Thursday, March 29th: Before J. Hoad, T.J. Vaughan, J. Stainer, and J.
Pledge Esqs., and Colonel Westropp.
John Whittingstall and John Cooper, the latter a cook on the collier
Brocklesbury, were charged with being concerned in stealing one cwt. of
coals, value 1s. 9d., the property of W.H. Wilmott, the captain.
Det. Officer William Burniston said about 11.45 a.m. on March 28th he
was in the Harbour Street and saw prisoner Whittingstall leave the ship
Brocklesbury, which was in the Folkestone Harbour. He was carrying on
his back a sack, which witness afterwards found to have contained coals.
He followed the prisoner past Harbour Street into Tontine Street, and
saw him enter the Duke Of Edinburgh public house. After waiting a few
minutes witness went into the bar. He was unable to see prisoner, but
presently Mrs. Marsh entered by the back room. He asked her if a man had
brought any coals, and he accompanied Mrs. Ralph down into the cellar.
He there saw the daughter of Mrs. Ralph holding a lighted candle whilst
the prisoner was about to empty the sack produced. The Detective stopped
him and asked him where he obtained them. He replied the cook on the
Brocklesbury had given them to him, and when asked by witness if he was
one of the crew, prisoner answered in the negative. Witness then asked
Mrs. Ralph how much she was going to give in payment for the coals. She
replied that she had paid him nothing, but was going to give him some
beer. She then added “I hope you won't do anything to me. You can see
how I am”. Witness charged Whittingstall with stealing the coal, and
took him into custody. When he got outside he called P.C. Allen and
together they went to the Harbour, where they saw prisoner (Cooper) on
board the Brocklesbury. He called him and he came upon the quay to him,
and witness asked him in Whittingstall's presence “Have you given this
man any coals?”; he said “Yes”. Witness then brought Whittingstall to
the police station, where he was detained while enquiries were made.
Witness then went back to the Duke Of Edinburgh public house and took
possession of the coal, and brought it to the police station. The weight
of it was 112lbs., and the value 1s. 9d. He then charged Whittingstall,
who made no reply. On Thursday morning John Cooper went up to the police
station, when he was charged with being concerned in the theft, and he
replied “I know nothing about it”.
In answer to Supt. Reeve, witness said he saw Cooper by the cook-house
door when Whittingstall was leaving the ship. Cooper admitted he had
given the coals.
Captain William Henry Wilmott, of the ship Brocklesbury, said that
Cooper was cook on board the ship. On the 22nd he left Folkestone, and
in consequence of a message on the 28th he returned and went to the
police station, when he was shown the sack of coals produced. He was
unable to identify either the sack or the coals. He gave Whittingstall a
good character.
Whittingstall pleaded Guilty, whilst Cooper pleaded Not Guilty, and
added that he did not see the prisoner leave the ship or take the sack
away. They might have been sweepings.
The Bench gave John Cooper some benefit of the doubt and discharged him,
and told John Whittingstall that it was a serious charge against him,
and they sentenced him to one month's hard labour.
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Folkestone Herald 31 March 1900.
Folkestone Police Court.
On Thursday John Whittingstall and John Cooper were charged with being
concerned in stealing a cwt. of coals, value 1s. 9d.
From the evidence it appeared that Detective Burniston saw Whittingstall
leave the ship Brocklesby on March 28th, carrying a sack. He followed
him and saw him enter the Duke Of Edinburgh. The detective subsequently
accompanied Mrs. Ralph into the cellar, and saw the defendant about to
empty the sack. He said that it was given to him by the cook of the
Brocklesby. Mrs. Ralph said that she had paid nothing, but was going to
give some beer for the coals. The detective afterwards went to the
harbour and saw Cooper, cook on the Brocklesby. He admitted giving
Whittingstall some coal.
Captain Wilmott, of the ship, gave Whittingstall a good character.
Whittingstall pleaded Guilty and Cooper Not Guilty.
Cooper said that he did not see the other defendant leave the ship or
take the sack away. They might have been sweepings.
Whittingstall was sent to a month's hard labour. The Bench discharged
Cooper, giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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Folkestone Chronicle 28 March 1903.
Saturday, March 21st: Before Mr. W. Wightwick, Lieut. Colonel Hamilton,
and Messrs. S. Penfold, G. Peden, J. Pledge, E.T. Ward, T.J. Vaughan and
G.I. Swoffer.
Thomas Woods was summoned for being drunk on licensed premises.
P.C. Thomas Sales said at 10.45 on the evening of the 16th he was called
to the Cinque Ports Arms. As he arrived, defendant, who was drunk, left
the premises. Soon afterwards witness saw the defendant at the bar of
the Duke Of Edinburgh. He was leaning against the counter. The landlady
refused to serve him.
Woods pleaded Guilty. He said he was very sorry, and had never been in a
Court before. For the last six years he had been working on the harbour.
Fined 1s. and 9s. 6d. costs, or seven days', time being allowed for
payment.
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Folkestone Express 28 March 1903.
Saturday, March 21st: Before Aldermen Penfold and Vaughan, Lieut. Col.
Hamilton, G. Peden, J. Pledge, W. Wightwick, E.T. Ward, and G.I. Swoffer
Esqs.
Thos. Woods was summoned for being drunk on licensed premises.
P.C. Sales said about 10.45 on the night of the 16th inst. he was called
to the Cinque Ports Arms, where he saw defendant in a drunken condition
leaving the premises. About 10.55 he saw defendant in the bar of the
Duke Of Edinburgh, leaning against the counter. The landlady said “You
get outside. I shan't serve you”. Defendant refused to leave the place,
and witness had to eject him.
Fined 1s. and 9s. 6d. costs.
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Folkestone Chronicle 13 February 1904.
Licensing Sessions.
Wednesday, February 10th: Before Mr. W. Wightwick, Alderman Herbert,
Lieut. Cols. Fynmore, Westropp, and Hamilton, Messrs. C.J. Pursey and
E.T. Ward.
The Chief Constable (Mr. H. Reeve) read his annual report, which
contained interesting figures with regard to drunkenness, etc. No person
in Folkestone had yet been convicted a sufficient number of times to be
placed on the “black list”. The Chief Constable objected to the renewal
of the licence of the Swan Inn, Dover Road, and asked that the
consideration of this licence might be deferred until the adjourned
sessions.
The Chairman then read the Justices' Report, which stated that the
number of licensed houses in Folkestone, and especially around the
harbour, was out of all proportion to the population. The number of
licences had not been reduced, owing to the fact that a Bill amending
the Licensing Laws was shortly to be introduced in Parliament. Certain
public houses – the Imperial Brewery Tap, the Hope, the East Cliff
Tavern, the Victoria, the Lifeboat Inn, the Duke Of Edinburgh, and the
Channel Inn had been inspected by the Justices, and recommendations with
regard to their sanitary improvement and closing of back entries were
made.
Mr. John Minter said that water had been laid on at the Channel Inn
since the report on the bad state of the sanitary arrangements. Mr.
Minter also suggested with regard to the Imperial Brewery Tap that a
public bar should be made with an entrance from Mill Bay.
The Bench decided, however, that the orders made in the report should be
adhered to.
Licences were then granted to the lessees of public houses and licensed
premises.
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Folkestone Express 13 February 1904.
Annual Licensing Meeting.
Wednesday, February 10th: Before W. Wightwick Esq., Lieut. Col.
Hamilton, Lieut. Col. Fynmore, Lieut. Colonel Westropp, and W.G.
Herbert, E.T. Ward, and C.J. Pursey Esqs.
The following was the report of Supt. Reeve: Chief Constable's Office,
Folkestone, 10th February, 1904. To the Chairman and Members of the
Licensing Committee of the Borough of Folkestone. Gentlemen, I have the
honour to report for your information that there are at present within
your jurisdiction 139 premises licensed for the sale of intoxicating
liquors, namely: Full licences 87; Beer on 11; Beer off 6; Beer and
Spirits (dealers) 16; Grocers 12; Confectioners 3; Chemists 4; Total 139
– an average of one licence to every 220 persons, or one “on” licence to
every 313. This is a decrease of one full licence as compared with last
year's return, the licence of the Marquis Of Lorne having been refused
at the adjourned meeting in March. Twenty of the licences have been
transferred during the year, namely, 14 full licences, two beer on, two
beer off, and two grocers. One beer off licence was transferred twice
during the year. One licence holder has been convicted since the last
annual meeting of committing drunkenness on his licensed premises. He
has since transferred his licence and left the house. The alterations
which the Justices at the adjourned meeting last year directed to be
made to the Packet Boat, Castle, Tramway, Bricklayers' Arms, Granville,
and Star Inns have all been carried out in a satisfactory manner, and
none of the licensed houses are now used as common lodging houses. Ten
occasional licences, and extensions of hours on 21 occasions, have been
granted to licence holders during the year. There are 14 places licensed
for music and dancing, and two for public billiard playing. Eleven clubs
where intoxicating liquors are sold are registered in accordance with
the Licensing Act of 1902. For the year ending 31st December last year,
154 persons (131 males and 23 females) were proceeded against for
drunkenness. 131 were convicted and 23 discharged. This is an increase
of 65 persons proceeded against, and 51 convicted, as compared with
1902. The increase is chiefly due to the additional powers given to the
police under the Licensing Act, 1902. Up to the present time no person
within the Borough has been convicted the necessary number of times
within the 12 months to be placed on the “black list” as provided by
Section 6 of the Act of 1902. With very few exceptions the whole of the
licensed houses have been conducted in a satisfactory manner. The only
objection I have to make to the renewal of any of the present licences
is that of the Swan Inn, Dover Road, and I would ask that the renewal of
this licence be deferred until the adjourned meeting. I have the honour
to be, gentlemen, your obedient servant, H. Reeve (Chief Constable).
The Chairman: I think, gentlemen, you will agree that the report of the
Superintendent is a satisfactory one – in fact, I may say very
satisfactory – for the whole year. With your permission I well read the
report we now make to you. At the adjournment of the last general
licensing meeting we stated that in our opinion the number of licences
for the sale of intoxicating liquor then existing in the borough of
Folkestone, especially in the part of the immediate neighbourhood of the
Harbour, was out of all proportion to the population, and that we
proposed between then and the general annual licensing meeting of this
year to obtain information on various matters, to enable us to determine
what reduction would be made in the number of licences. We invited the
owners of licensed houses in the meantime to meet and agree among
themselves for the voluntary surrender at this general meeting of a
substantial number of licences in the borough, and to submit the result
of their united action to the Licensing Justices for acceptance. Failing
any satisfactory proposal for reduction by the owners, the Licensing
Justices last year intimated that in the exercise of their discretionary
powers they would at this year's meeting decide in a fair and equitable
spirit what reduction should be made. But at the opening of Parliament
last week it was announced in the King's speech that the Government
intended to introduce in the House of Commons during the present session
a Bill to amend the Licensing Laws. In view of this legislation we are
of opinion we ought not, pending the passage of this Bill through
Parliament, exercise the discretionary powers vested in us, and take
measures for effecting a further reduction in the number of licences
within the borough on the ground that certain licensed premises are not
required for the public accommodation. We have recently inspected
certain houses known as the Imperial Brewery Tap, the Hope, East Cliff
Tavern, Victoria, Lifeboat, Duke Of Edinburgh, Railway Tavern, and
Channel Inn.
As to the Duke Of Edinburgh, these premises are structurally unfit, and
not adapted for licensed premises. There is no urinal, except one
entered from the public bar by means of a door, the smell from which is
very offensive. The bar is badly lighted. We direct that the holder of
the licence shall, within fourteen days from this date, close the
existing urinal and erect a new urinal outside the building, and also
close the gate leading from the yard, uncoloured on the deposited plan,
to Dover Street, so that the police may exercise proper supervision over
the licensed premises.
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Folkestone Chronicle 11 February 1905.
Licensing Sessions.
Wednesday, February 8th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Lieut. Colonel Westropp,
Lieut. Colonel Fynmore, and Mr. W.C. Carpenter.
There was the usual animated scene as the names of licensees were called
out in alphabetical order, and the usual theatrical ring of the burly
constables shouting “Get your money ready, please”.
The Chairman opened the Sessions by briefly saying “I will ask the Chief
Constable to read his annual report”.
Chief Constable Reeve then read the following:- Chief Constable's
Office, Folkestone, Feb. 8th, 1905. To the Chairman and Members of the
Licensing Committee. Gentlemen, I have the honour to report that there
are at present within your jurisdiction 139 places licensed for the sale
of intoxicating liquore, viz., full licences 87, beer (on) 11, beer
(off) 6, beer and spirit dealers 16, grocers 12, chemists 4,
confectioners 3. This gives an average (according to the Census of 1901)
of one licence to 220 persons, or one on licence to every 313 persons.
Eighteen of the licences were transferred during the year, viz., 12 full
licences, 3 beer on, and three spirit dealers. One full licence was
transferred twice during the year.
The orders which were made at the last licensing meeting to close the
back entrances to various licensed houses, and to make certain
alterations to others, were complied with by the licensees.
Proceedings were taken by the police against three of those licence
holders during the year, one for harbouring prostitutes, and two others
for permitting drunkenness. The former only was convicted. He has since
transferred his licence and left the house.
Two other licence holders were proceeded against by the Inland Revenue
Authorities (six informations were laid against one defendant, and three
against the other), and in each case a conviction followed, the
defendants being fined 20s. and costs upon each summons.
For selling drink without a licence 8 persons were proceeded against by
the Inland Revenue Authorities, and two by the police, in each case a
conviction being recorded.
For drunkenness, 171 persons (143 males and 28 females) were proceeded
against, 156 convicted, and 15 discharged. This is an increase of 17
persons proceeded against as compared with the previous year. One person
was convicted of refusing to quit licensed premises when requested.
Six occasional licences and extension of hours on 42 occasions were
granted to licence holders during the year.
There are 16 places licensed for music and dancing, and three for public
billiard playing.
Eleven clubs where intoxicating liquors are sold are registered in
accordance with the Licensing Act, 1902.
The general conduct of the licensed houses being in my opinion at
present satisfactory, I have no objection to offer to the renewal of any
of the present licences on the ground of misconduct.
I beg to point out that within the area formed by a line drawn from the
Harbour through South Street, High Street, Rendezvous Street, Dover Road
to the Raglan Hotel, thence over Radnor Bridge to the sea, there is a
population approximately of 5,090, with 45 “on” licensed houses, giving
a proportion of one licensed house to every 113 inhabitants. I would ask
the Bench to exercise the powers given them by the Licensing Act, 1904,
and refer the renewal of some of the licensed houses in this area to the
County Licensing Committee for consideration, and payment of
compensation should any of the renewals be refused.
The houses situate in this congested area which in my opinion should be
first dealt with under the provisions of the Act are the following,
viz.:- Victoria Inn, South Street, Duke Of Edinburgh, Tontine Street,
Cinque Ports, Seagate Street, Providence Inn, Beach Street, Star Inn,
Radnor Street, Perseverance Inn, Dover Street.
I would respectfully suggest that the consideration of the renewal of
the licences of these houses be deferred until the Adjourned Licensing
Meeting.
I am, gentlemen, your obedient servant. H. Reeve, Chief Constable.
The Chairman: The report just read by the Chief Constable is very
satisfactory as to the general conduct of the houses, but we are sorry
to see an increase of 17in the number of charges for drunkenness, and we
hope that the licence holders will assist the police by doing all in
theor power to prevent drunkenness, and a decrease in charges during the
coming year. As a Licensing Bench we cannot close our eyes to the fact,
as shown by Chief Constable Reeve's report that there are a very large
number of licensed houses in one certain area, and as the legislature
have taken steps to compensate licence holders for the loss of their
licences, we have decided to adjourn the granting of the six licences
mentioned in the Chief Constable's report, viz., The Victoria, Duke Of
Edinburgh, Cinque Ports, Providence, Star and Perseverance. In the
meantime notice of objection to the licences will be served, and the
recommendations of the Justices will be considered by the Court of
County Quarter Sessions (Canterbury), and if one or the whole of these
houses are closed the owners will be compensated.
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Folkestone Express 11 February 1905.
Annual Licensing Sessions.
Wednesday, February 8th: Before E.T. Ward Esq., Colonel Hamilton,
Colonel Fynmore, W.G. Herbert Esq., and W.C. Carpenter Esq.
The Chief Constable's report was read (see Chronicle for full report).
The Chairman said the report was of a most satisfactory nature. The
Magistrates were pleased to fine there were no complaints against any of
the houses. It was, however, an unfortunate thing that there was an
increase in drunkenness during the year, and they hoped that the licence
holders would, in the coming year, be still more careful in trying to
help the Bench and the police as much as possible in keeping down
drunkenness, so that next year they might have a better report from the
Chief Constable. With regard to the houses the Chief Constable referred
to in what he called the congested area, there was no question that
there were too many public houses there. By the new Act they were
empowered to report to the County Quarter Sessions those houses which
they thought were not required in the borough. They would therefore
direct the Chief Constable to serve notices of objection against those
six houses – the Victoria Inn, the Duke of Edinburgh, the Cinque Ports,
the Providence Inn, the Star, and the Perseverance – so that they might
report to the Quarter Sessions that those houses were unnecessary in the
borough. Of course, if the Quarter Sessions upheld their decision with
regard to those houses, or any one of them, then the owner would be
compensated. If the Chief Constable would kindly serve the notices, the
licences would be dealt with at the next Sessions.
The adjourned meeting was fixed for Monday, March 6th.
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Folkestone Herald 11 February 1905.
Annual Licensing Sessions.
Wednesday, February 8th: Before Mr. J. Pledge, Lieut. Colonel Hamilton,
Alderman W.G. Herbert, Councillor R.J. Fynmore, and Mr. W.C. Carpenter.
The Chief Constable read his report (see Folkestone Chronicle for
details).
The Chairman said that the report of the Chief Constable was very
satisfactory, and the Licensing Bench were very pleased to find that
there was no complaint against any licence holders. There was an
unsatisfactory matter in connection with the report, and that was the
increase in drunken persons during the year, but the Bench hoped that
the licence holders would be more careful, and so try to help the Bench
in the matter of keeping down drunkenness, so as to have a better report
from the Chief Constable next year. With regard to those houses which
had been reported upon, there was no question about it that in the
congested district there was a large number of houses, viz., one to
every 113 persons. By the new Act, the Bench were empowered to report to
the County Quarter Sessions those houses which they thought were not
required in the borough, and they would therefore direct the Chief
Constable to serve notices of objection before the adjourned meeting
against those six houses. The Bench would then report to the Quarter
Sessions that, in their opinion, those houses were unnecessary in the
borough. If Quarter Sessions upheld the decision of the Bench in regard
to one or all of those houses, those houses would be compensated.
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Folkestone Daily News 6 March 1905.
Adjourned Licensing Sessions.
The Duke of Edinburgh.
Monday, March 6th: Before Messrs. Ward, Pursey, Fynmore, Hamilton, and
Carpenter.
Mr. Avery K.C., instructed by Nicholson, Graham and Co., solicitors,
appeared for the owners and tenant.
The Chief Constable repeated his previous statement as to population,
and said the house was owned by Flint and Co., of Canterbury, and
occupied by Mr. Ralph. Within a radius of 200 yards there were 39 public
houses. The accommodation was meagre both for tenant and public.
Structural alterations were ordered at the last Sessions. There was very
little trade, and the licence was unnecessary.
Cross-examined by Mr. Avery: He fixed the area, and could have made it
larger or smaller. If he had made it larger it would have included more
private houses and made a smaller average. He made no complaints against
the house. If it did a trade of 3½ barrels he should be surprised and
modify his opinion.
Mr. Ralph, examined by Mr. Avery, deposed that he averaged 3½ barrels of
beer per week, and paid his way. He occasionally worked as a bricklayer,
but relied on the trade of the house.
Mr. John Jones gave evidence in favour of the house, and said he had
known it ever since it was opened, and it would be an inconvenience to
the inhabitants of Tontine Street to lose the house, which was largely
used for supper beer.
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Folkestone Chronicle 11 March 1905.
Adjourned Licensing Sessions.
Monday, March 6th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Lieut. Colonel Hamilton, Lieut.
Colonel Fynmore, W.C. Carpenter, C.J. Pursey, and W.G. Herbert Esqs.
Six licences were objected to by the Chief Constable, acting under the
instructions of the licensing authority. These were: The Victoria Inn,
South Street, tenant Mr. Alfred Skinner; Mr. Minter representing the
brewers, Messrs. Mackeson and Co.
The Cinque Ports Arms, tenant Samuel Robert Webster; Mr. W.R. Mowll for
the brewers, Messrs. Leney and Co.
The Duke of Edinburgh, Mr. Ralph tenant; The Perseverance, tenant Robert
Henry Tracey, and The Providence. The brewers, Messrs. Flint and Co.,
were in these three cases represented by Mr. Horace Avory, K.C.,
instructed by Messrs. Nicholson and Graham.
The Star, Radnor Street; In this, the last of the six houses objected
to, Mr. Haines appeared for the brewers and the tenant.
In all six cases both brewers and tenants objected to their licences
being taken away simply on the grounds of redundancy.
Mr. Avory's objections were practically the same as those which has been
urged throughout the Kentish district, and were on all fours with the
advocates' objections who represented the other houses.
Chief Constable Reeve did not in any single case object on the ground of
misconduct on the part of the licensee, but purely on the grounds of
redundancy.
Mr. Avory K.C. submitted that the congested area in which the six
licences objected to was an unfair one. If the boundary on the map were
extended a mile, then it would be found that the houses were spread over
and serving a large population. It was not a suffcicient ground to take
away a man's licence on the grounds of redundancy without comparing the
threatened house with other houses. He seriously submitted that it was
worthy of the Magistrates' consideration as to whether any practical
result could follow a reference to Quarter Sessions of these cases. So
many licences in Kent had already been referred to Quarter Sessions that
he doubted whether sufficient funds would be available for compensation
purposes. The result would be a deadlock when these cases came to be
considered; the Quarter Sessions would either be obliged to hold their
hands, or there would be a gross injustice by the reduction of
compensation below the proper amount.
After a long hearing the whole of the six licences were sent back to
Quarter Sessions for reference.
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Folkestone Express 11 March 1905.
Adjourned Licensing Sessions.
Monday, March 6th: Before E.T. Ward Esq., Lieut. Col. Fynmore, Lieut.
Col. Hamilton, W.G. Herbert, W.C. Carpenter, and C.J. Pursey Esqs.
The licence of the Duke of Edinburgh was then considered. Mr. H. Avory
K.C., instructed by Messrs. Nicholson and Graham, appeared for Messrs.
Flint and Co., the owners of the house.
The Chief Constable said the Duke of Edinburgh was an ante 1869 beer
“on”, and was situate in Tontine Street. He put in the same figures of
the number of houses, etc., in the area marked on the map. The licensee,
Mr. Frederick Ralph, obtained the transfer on April 22nd, 1891. The
registered owners were Messrs. Flint and Co., Ltd., Canterbury. The
rateable value was £24.The house adjoined the Clarendon Hotel, which was
a fully licensed house. Within a radius of 100 yards there were 17 other
“on” licensed houses, within 150 yards there were 33, and within 200
yards there were 39. The accommodation provided for the public was very
small, consisting of two small compartments or bars in the front, and
also a small room at times used at the back of the bar. The urinal
provided for the customers opened directly out of the small left hand
side of the bar. In February of last year an order for structural
alterations was made by the licensing justices with regard to the
urinal, and also to stop up a back entrance which led from the house
into Dover Street. It appeared to him there was very little trade at the
house. The present licensee was a bricklayer, and worked at his trade,
but at present was out of employment. In his opinion the house was quite
unnecessary for the requirements of the neighbourhood.
Cross-examined, the Chief Constable said he drew the area shown on the
map on his own responsibility. He thought it was a natural boundary and
would be a fair average. There was no complaint against the tenant. The
order of last year in regard to certain alterations was duly carried
out. He should not think that there was quite so much as three and a
half barrels sold in the house in a week. For a smaller house that
amount would be a fair trade.
Det. Sergt. Burniston said there were very few customers at the house,
and the majority of those who did use it were women who walked the
streets. For the past several months he had visited the house almost
every day and found it almost empty. The licensee was a bricklayer, and
worked when he had an opportunity.
Cross-examined, witness said Mr. Ralph had told him that if he did not
go to work he could not pay the brewers.
Mr. Avory said he proposed to call Mr. Ralph. Messrs. Flint and Co. were
concerned in three cases, so he proposed to make only one speech.
Mr. Ralph went into the box. He said he had been the tenant of the house
for 14 years. He had always paid his way in the house. He did on average
three and a quarter barrels a week. He only worked occasionally at his
trade, and he depended upon the beer-house for his living. His wife had
been to the residents in Tontine Street, and 36 of them had signed a
petition (produced) in favour of the licence being continued.
In answer to the Chief Constable, Mr. Ralph said the class of people
using his house were fishing people generally. He sometimes sold more
than three and a half barrels in the summer. People wanted the house
when there were only 10,000 people in Folkestone, and now there were
more people they wanted to take the licence away. He thought the house
was absolutely necessary for the requirements of the neighbourhood.
Mr. J. Jones said he was a member of the Borough Council and the Watch
Committee. The Watch Committee had given no sanction to the police to
oppose that licence because it had never been brought before them. He
had known the house for many years, and it had always been
well-conducted. In his opinion the house was doing a legitimate and fair
trade, and was a great convenience to the street. He should like to see
more of that kind of house in Folkestone.
The Chairman said the Magistrates thought they were bound to refer the
case to the Quarter Sessions.
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Folkestone Herald 11 March 1905.
Adjourned Licensing Sessions.
Monday, March 6th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Alderman W.G. Herbert,
Councillor Fynmore, Lieut. Colonel Hamilton, Mr. W.C. Carpenter, and Mr.
C.J. Pursey.
It will be remembered that at the February Sessions the Bench instructed
the Chief Constable (Mr. H. Reeve) to oppose the renewal of six licences
on the grounds that they were not required for the districts in which
they were situated.
The next house which was brought before the Court was the Duke of
Edinburgh, of which Mr. Frederick Ralph is the landlord. Mr. Horace
Avory, K.C., appeared for the owners of the house.
Chief Constable Reeve said that this house was an ante 1869 beer
on-licence, and was situated in Tontine Street. The holder obtained the
transfer of the licence in April, 1891. The registered owners were
Messrs. Flint and Co., of Canterbury, and the rateable value was £24.
The house adjoined the Clarendon Hotel, which was a fully-licensed
house. Within a radius of 100 yards there were 15 licensed houses,
within 150 yards there were 33 houses, and within 200 yards there were
39 houses. The public accommodation was very small, and consisted of two
compartments in the front, and a small room, used sometimes, at the back
of the house. In February of last year an order for structural
alterations was made as to the urinals, and also to stop up a back
entrance. The present licensee was a bricklayer, and very often worked
at his trade. In his opinion the licence was quite unnecessary for the
requirements of the neighbourhood. Very little trade was done.
Cross-examined by Mr. Avory: Witness himself had settled upon the area,
and prepared the statistics submitted to the Bench. There was no
opposition to the house other than it was unnecessary, nor had there
been any complaint against the tenant since he had been in occupation.
The class of customers served at the Clarendon Hotel, next door, was
quite different to that of the Duke of Edinburgh's customers. If 3½
barrels per week were sold at the house in question that would be a fair
trade. There was no other beerhouse going north in the street.
Detective Sergeant Burniston asserted that very few customers used the
house, and the majority of those who used it were women hawking flowers.
There were not very often many people in the house in the evening, and
in the daytime he had seen it empty. Mr. Ralph had told him that if he
didn't go to work he could not pay the brewer.
Mr. Avory: Yet he is out of work, and does pay the brewer. (Laughter)
Mr. Ralph, the tenant of the house, said that for 14 years he had held
the licence under the same brewers, and had always paid his way. On
average he did about 3½ barrels of trade per week. He had brought up a
family in the house, and had seven children still living. He was a
bricklayer, but worked very little at his trade. He depended upon the
beerhouse for a living. Thirty six residents in Tontine Street had
signed a petition (produced) in favour of the licence being continued.
The petition prayed for the reconsideration by the Bench of the licence
of the house, and bore testimony to the good conduct of the house. One
of the petitioners was a member of the Borough Council.
Cross-examined by the Chief Constable: Witness had not gone out to work
during the greater part of the time he had occupied the house. The
people who frequented the house were mostly fishermen. Witness could not
give the names of the Tontine Street people who patronised his
establishment. He did not consider that there were sufficient houses in
Tontine Street for the accommodation of the public.
Councillor Jones, who was next called, described himself as a fruiterer,
greengrocer, and a man of several occupations, and said that he was
well-known in the town. (Laughter) He was a member of the Watch
Committee, and the question of opposing licensed houses had not been
brought before the Committee. He had known the house ever since it had
been opened, and it had always been well-conducted. He used the house
very frequently years ago, and his girl and boy very often went there
for the supper beer, which was very good beer. The house was very handy,
and was of much convenience to the public.
Cross-examined by the Chief Constable: He had not sampled the beer
himself; he only knew that his people made no complaint against it. He
would like to see a great many of that kind in the neighbourhood, and he
should think that two or three of that kind were necessary. He was a
teetotaller – and all the Bench knew it – from physical incapacity to
drink it.
Mr. Avory postponed his address until other cases with which he was
connected had been dealt with.
Mr. Avery contended that the marking of an arbitrary area on a plan as
had been done by the Chief Constable produced an unfair result, for the
reason that in every town one spot could be divided out where there was
a cluster of licensed houses. The Bench should not be guided by any line
drawn upon a map, because in that way they would not give due
consideration to the wants of the people who were outside that district.
The Magistrates were not dealing with theoretical questions, but
questions of practical politics, namely, as to whether any of the houses
should be sent to Quarter Sessions for consideration. He submitted that
it was worthy of consideration whether any practical result would follow
from a reference of those cases to the Quarter Sessions for the county.
He believed, from inquiry, that at the present moment it would be found
that there had been referred to Quarter Sessions a number of houses far
exceeding any possible strain which the compensation funds could be put
to. In other words the compensation funds would not be sufficient for
the number of cases which would require to be met. The result would be
that a total deadlock would be produced at Quarter Sessions. It could
not have been intended by the Legislature that those objections should
be multiplied by an enormous number of houses being referred, all of
which were to have a claim upon the compensation funds, when there were
no funds, or the funds were not sufficient. Quarter Sessions would be
obliged to say “We must hold our hands, for we cannot deal with any of
the questions, or we shall be obliged to reduce the amounts below what
they should be”. Counsel further argued that in the case of Raven v
Southampton Justices it was laid down that it was not sufficient to
produce a map which, when viewed, showed there were too many houses in
any particular neighbourhood, but that there should be some grounds
distinguishing it from other licensed houses in the neighbourhood which
justified the taking away of that licence rather than the licences of
other houses in that street or the adjoining street. He went on to
compare the Perseverance and the Welcome Inn, houses practically
together, where convictions had been recorded against one and not the
other, and yet the Perseverance was opposed while the other was not.
The Bench decided to refer the case to Quarter Sessions.
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Southeastern Gazette 14 March 1905.
The adjourned licensing sessions for Folkestone were held on Monday,
before E.T. Ward Esq. (in the chair).
Mr. Minter applied for the renewal of the Victoria Inn, South Street, on
behalf of the owners, Messrs. Mackeson and Co., Ltd. The police objected
on the grounds that the house was excessive. In that district there was
one “on” licensed house to every 100 inhabitants. The Bench unanimously
decided to refer the house to the Quarter Sessions, granting the tenant
a provisional license in the meantime.
Mr. Mowll next applied on behalf of the owners, Messrs. Leney and Co.,
for the renewal of the Cinque Port Arms, held by Samuel Robert Webster.
After hearing the evidence, the Bench came to a similar decision.
They also referred the following licenses to Quarter Sessions:—The Duke
of Edinburgh, Messrs. Flint and Co., owners; the Providence Inn., Henry
Green, licensee; the Perseverance Inn, Robert Henry Tracey, licensee;
and the Star, held by Ticknor Else.
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Folkestone Daily News 11 May 1905.
Local News.
We learn that the Compensation Committee at Canterbury appointed by the
Quarter Sessions only intend to deal with 11 cases out of the 15 that
were sent to them. There were six from Folkestone, five from Hythe, and
four from Elham.
The six from Folkestone were The Providence, The Perseverance, The
Cinque Ports, The Victoria, The Edinburgh Castle (sic), The Star.
The Committee have decided that there is no need to interfere with the
Providence. The objection to that has been thrown without asking for
further evidence. The other five will be dealt with shortly.
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Folkestone Chronicle 13 May 1905.
East Kent Licensing Authority.
Lord Harris presided at the preliminary meeting of the East Kent
Licensing Authority, held at the Sessions House, Canterbury, on Friday,
when cases from Ramsgate, Folkestone, Hythe, and Elham were reported.
It was decided that the principal meeting to be held pursuant to the
Licensing Rules, 1904, by the Compensation Authority for the East ent
Area should be fixed to take place at the Sessions House, Longport,
Canterbury, on the 26th May, at 10.15 a.m. At that meeting the Authority
will be prepared to hear, with reference to the renewal of the licences
of the following premises, all those persons to whom, under the
Licensing Act, 1904, they are bound to give an opportunity of being
heard: Victoria Inn, South Street, Folkestone; Star Inn, Radnor Street,
Folkestone; Cinque Ports Arms, Seagate Street, Folkestone; Duke of
Edinburgh, Tontine Street, Folkestone; Perseverance, Dover Street,
Folkestone; Rose and Crown, High Street, Hythe; Old Portland, Market
Square, Hythe; Walmer Castle, Adelaide Gardens, Ramsgate; Kent Inn,
Camden Road, Ramsgate; Bricklayers Arms, King Street, Ramsgate; and
Albert Inn, High Street, Ramsgate.
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Folkestone Daily News 26 May 1905.
East Kent Licensing Authority.
At the Canterbury Quarter Sessions this morning, before Judge Selfe and
the licensing Magistrates, the cases of renewing the licences of the
Duke of Edinburgh in Tontine Street, the Victoria in South Street, the
Star in Radnor Street, the Perseverance in Dover Street, and the Cinque
Ports in Seagate Street came up for hearing.
Mr. Pitman, instructed by Mr. Bradley, appeared for the Folkestone
Justices; Mr. Hohler appeared for the Star; Mr. Bodkin for Messrs. Flint
and Sons and Messrs. Mackeson; Mr. G.W. Haines for the tenant of the
Perseverance; and Mr. Mowll for the Cinque Ports.
Mr. Bodkin raised a point of law as to whether the justices had
investigated the matter before remitting it to Quarter Sessions.
Sir L. Selfe, however, decided against him, and the cases were proceeded
with on their merits.
Mr. H. Reeve, the Chief Constable, recapitulated his evidence given
before the Folkestone Justices. He was severely cross-examined by Mr.
Bodkin and Mr. Hohler, but they failed to shake his evidence.
Mr. Tiddy and Mr. Jones, of Tontine Street, gave evidence in favour of
the Duke of Edinburgh.
The Magistrates retired to consider the matter, and on their return into
court Sir W.L. Selfe announced that they had come to the decision to do
away with the licences of the Star, the Victoria, the Cinque Ports, and
the Duke of Edinburgh.
These houses will be closed as soon as the question of compensation is
settled.
The Perseverance, in Dover Street, was not interfered with at present.
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Folkestone Chronicle 27 May 1905.
East Kent Licensing Authority.
The principal meeting of the Compensation Authority for East Kent was
held at the Sessions House, Canterbury, on Friday, before Judge Sir W.L.
Selfe.
The Folkestone licensed houses under consideration were: Victoria Inn,
South Street, licensee Alfred Skinner; Star and Garter (sic), Radnor
Street, licensee Henry T.T. Else; Cinque Ports Arms, Seagate Street,
licensee Samuel R. Webster; Duke of Edinburgh, Tontine Street, licensee
Frederic Ralph; and the Perseverance, Dover Street, licensee Robert H.
Tracy.
Mr. Bodkin and Mr. Hohler appeared for the brewers, Mr. Pittman for the
Justices of Folkestone, Mr. Haines and Mr. Rutley Mowll for the tenants.
Mr. Pittman having opened the case for the Justices of Folkestone,
formal evidence as to the trade done by the various houses and their
general character was given by Chief Constable H. Reeve and Detective
Sergt. Burniston.
Mr. Bodkin said there was nothing against the five houses except the
statement of two police officers that the trade done in two of them was
small. The Victoria had been held by Mr. Skinner for about six years,
and was used for a particular class of trade. It is used by sailors,
fishermen, and railway men. It had a good steady trade, which had been
fairly maintained for the last few years.
As to the Perseverance, Mr. Tracy went in last November and paid £180
for it. He had done a fairly good trade, and if now the licence would be
taken away the compensation would be very small, and although he had
conducted it with perfect respectability, he would be fined the
difference between £180 and the small quantum of compensation that the
Committee could award. He would ask on what possible basis the Justices
selected the house, when close by was the Welcome, against which a
conviction was obtained this year and one last year?
As to the Duke of Edinburgh, where the tenant, Mr. Ralph, had been 14
years, and had maintained himself and was satisfied, although it was
next door to a fully-licensed house, it attracted a different class of
trade, and was of use to the locality.
Mr. G.L. Mackeson, Managing Director of Mackeson Limited, and Alfred
Skinner, the tenant, gave evidence as to the Victoria.
Eventually a licence was granted in the case of the Perseverance, but
refused in all the other Folkestone cases.
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Southeastern Gazette 30 May 1905.
East Kent Licensing Committee.
The principal meeting of the East Kent Licensing Committee was held at
the Sessions House, Canterbury, on Friday and Saturday. At the first
day’s sitting, Judge Sir W. L. Selfe presided.
There were five applications from Folkestone, viz., in respect of the
Victoria, the Perseverance, the Duke of Edinburgh, the Star, and the
Cinque Port Arms. The licensees were represented by Mr. Bodkin, K.C.,
Mr. Hohler, Mr. Rutley Mowll and Mr. Haines, while Mr. Pitman appeared
for the justices of Folkestone, and Detective Sergt. Bumiston having
given evidence, Mr. Bodkin contended that the fact that compensation was
now to be given did not affect the question, as to whether a license
should be renewed or not, and the onus upon those who came there to
prove that a license should be refused on the ground that it was not
required was just as great as if they were acting last year instead of
in the present year, and he thought it was necessary to bear this in
mind because one heard in various quarters views expressed that now
compensation was payable, these licensing cases might be got through in
as short, and, if he might say so, as perfunctory a way as possible,
without any enquiry of any sort, or careful attention given to the
interests involved. Mr. Bodkin further argued that the primary duty of
the Licensing Justices was that laid down in the Farnham case, viz.,
that they should personally select the houses which they deemed were not
required, instead of leaving such selection to the discretion of the
Chief Constable.
All the licenses were refused, with the exception of that of the
Perseverance.
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Folkestone Express 3 June 1905.
East Kent Licensing.
The Special Committee of Licensing Justices of East Kent considered on
Friday, at the Canterbury Sessions Hall, five Folkestone licences which
had been referred to them under the Licensing Act of 1904. The Chairman
was Sir William Lucius Selfe. Mr. Pitman, barrister, appeared for the
licensing justices, and Mr. H.C. Bodkin, barrister, for the owners of
the Victoria (Messrs. Mackeson and Co.), the Perseverance and the Duke
of Edinburgh (Messrs. Flint and Co.); Mr. Hohler for the owners of the
Star (Messrs. Ash and Co.); Mr. G.W. Haines for the tenant of the
Perseverance, and Mr. R. Mowll (Dover) for the owners of the Cinque
Ports Arms (Messrs. Leney and Co.).
Mr. Pitman said that in 1903 the licensing justices announced their
intention of exercising the power which they then had of reducing the
number of licensed houses in the area of Folkestone, and especially in
the neighbourhood of the Harbour district. In the beginning of 1904, in
the King's Speech, there was mentioned a prospect of the present
Licensing Act coming into force, and the justices determined therefore
to hold their hand, and nothing was done in 1904. At the annual meeting
that year, the Chief Constable gave notice that he intended to oppose
the renewal of the five licensed houses which had been mentioned, and
one other, the Providence. At the adjourned meeting the Chief Constable
and the detective who assisted him in the enquiries made gave evidence,
in which they stated that the area which the Chief Constable had marked
off was a congested area, there being 915 houses for a population of
4,580. There were 46 on-licensed houses and 6 off-licensed houses, so
there was rather more than one licence to every 100 of the population.
He did not think that there could be any doubt that in such
circumstances some reduction was necessary. The renewal authority
recommended that the renewal of the six houses mentioned should be
considered, but at a preliminary meeting it was decided that the
Providence should not be proceeded against. He might mention that the
Chief Constable, in selecting those houses for his opposition, was
guided by the fact that they were the houses doing the least trade, and
that he had selected in each case one out of a cluster of houses, and
that which appeared the worst of each cluster.
Mr. H. Reeve, the Chief Constable, was the first witness, and he
repeated his evidence given before the local licensing justices. There
was no complaint against the landlord of the Duke of Edinburgh.
Det. Sergt. Burniston also gave similar evidence to that given before
the licensing justices.
Mr. Bodkin said he submitted under that particular jurisdiction
precisely the same duty fell upon that tribunal as was upon the Court of
Quarter Sessions in deciding whether or not the licences should be
renewed. He submitted there must be as careful and as exhaustive an
enquiry as to each house as there had been under the Licensing Act of
1868. Therefore it was necessary to say what the law was with regard to
those cases, and whether there had been any difference of distinction
made between the procedure under that Act to what there was under the
earlier legislation. The chief case upon which one must rely as
interpreting the duties of the Quarter Sessions was the well-known
Farnham case. In that case there was a statement made by the Master of
the Rolls which really gave the key to the whole position. The justices
in that case formed themselves into a committee, or rather appointed a
committee, and after an exhaustive enquiry made personally by
themselves, they declined to select from the houses generally within
their area any particular house which they might oppose prima facie
before going round on their tour of inspection and trying to find out
what was unnecessary for the requirements of the locality. What they did
was described as the only possible and fair way of dealing with the
question, which was just as difficult as it ever had been. Instead of
giving a notice of objection to individual houses selected out of court,
they gave notice of objection to every single house in the division. The
Master of the Rolls then said that the justices were of the opinion that
the only fair and satisfactory way of dealing with the question was to
cause objections to be served on all the owners of licensed houses, so
that the cases of all might be formally inquired into. That course gave
the justices an opportunity of weighing the merits and acting judicially
in the matter of which public houses should remain and which licences
should be taken. That was the one course which might be taken, and it
was a most authoritative statement. It was the statement which was made,
and it seemed to him (the Master of the Rolls) the reasonable and proper
course. That was a procedure which was described as a fair, reasonable,
and satisfactory procedure. It was not adopted in that case; far from
it. The procedure apparently had been to adopt the view of the Chief
Constable, and to instruct him to serve notice of objection solely on
houses which he had selected without giving any opportunity to the
occupiers of such houses to show by way of comparison of their trade,
accommodation, situation, state of repair, or matters of that kind, how
discrimination should be made by the justices as to the houses to be
retained and which ought to be referred to the Quarter Sessions. In not
doing so, he submitted that the Folkestone Justices had not followed the
proper legal course. They might have given just as easily instructions
to the Chief Constable to serve notices on all the houses in the
selected area. How was a Quarter Sessions sitting 20 or 100 miles away
from a town to differentiate between those and other houses in a
selected area? Before any decision was come to, it was essential that
there should be an enquiry into the needs of the neighbourhood and the
pros and cons of the other houses by the justices below.
The Chairman: I should certainly say that the course had been sanctioned
by the King's Bench Division in the case The King v Tolhurst.
After further argument by Mr. Bodkin, the Chairman said it was suggested
that the course in the Farnham way was a proper way, but not the only
way. He ruled Mr. Bodkin's contention out, so far as he was concerned.
The justices below had made a prima facie case out against the houses,
and it was for them to answer the case.
Mr. Bodkin asked if the Committee would state a case upon that point.
The Chairman said they could not stay their hands on the possibility of
an appeal.
Mr. Bodkin then addressed the Committee on behalf of the Perseverance,
the Victoria, and the Duke of Edinburgh.
The Duke of Edinburgh.
Frederick Ralph, the landlord of the Duke of Edinburgh, said he had been
the tenant at the house since March 5th, 1891. He lived there with his
wife and children, and paid £16 a year for rent. The house was rated at
£25. He was a bricklayer by trade. Since he had been in the house he had
to work at times because he had a large family. He had worked a few
months in the summer, and a few months in the winter. His trade was from
three to three and a half barrels per week. He paid 34s. per barrel for
beer. He was satisfied with the trade, and was willing to remain in the
house. His wife had got out a petition in favour of the licence being
retained, which was signed by some thirty or forty residents in Tontine
Street. Fishermen and tradesmen used his house. He had never had the
least complaint made against him. The next door house did no more trade
than he did.
Mr. J. Jones gave evidence in support of the licence being retained. He
said he would be sorry to see it taken away.
Horace Offen and William Tiddy were also called on behalf of the owners.
The Committee retired, and on their return the Chairman said he still
held that the procedure of the justices below was in accordance with the
law. The Committee had considered each case separately without regard to
any of the other cases which had been heard, and they decided to refuse
the renewal of the licences except that of the Perseverance, which they
would renew.
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Folkestone Herald 27 May 1905.
East Kent Licensing Authority.
Yesterday the Special Committee of Licensing Justices of East Kent, to
whom the local authorities had referred the licences of five Folkestone
houses, under the licensing Act of 1904, sat at the Canterbury Sessions
Hall, and considered the reports which had been presented to them, as
well as the reasons advanced in favour and against the renewal of the
respective licences. Sir William Lucius Selfe was the Chairman of the
Committee.
The houses in question were the Victoria, South Street, the Perseverance
Inn, Dover Street, the Star Inn, Radnor Street, the Duke of Edinburgh,
Tontine Street, and the Cinque Port Arms, Seagate Street.
Mr. Pitkin, barrister, appeared for the Licensing Justices, Mr. H.C.
Bodkin, barrister, for the owners of the Victoria, the Perseverance, and
the Duke of Edinburgh (Messrs. Flint and Co.), Mr. Hohler was for the
owners of the Star (Messrs. Ash and Co.), Mr. G.W. Haines represented
the tenant of the Perseverance, and Mr. Rutley Mowll (Dover) appeared
for the owners of the Cinque Ports Arms (Messrs. Leney and Co.).
Mr. Pitkin said that at the annual licensing meeting this year the Chief
Constable gave notice that he intended to oppose the renewal of the five
licences named, and one other, that of the Providence. The notices were
served on the people who required notices under the Act, and at the
adjourned meeting the Chief Constable and his Detective Sergeant gave
evidence, while evidence was also called on behalf of the licensees of
the houses. At that meeting it was proved that in the area which the
Chief Constable had marked out on the map, namely, from South Street, up
High Street, down Grace Hill, to the railway arches, and across to the
sea, there were in all 916 houses to a population of 4,580. Of these 46
were on-licensed and 6 were off- licensed. That was one licence to
rather more than every hundred of the population, and if that was so
there could be no doubt that that was a case in which some reduction was
necessary. The renewal authority were unanimous in referring the whole
of the five licences under discussion. At the preliminary meeting it was
decided that the case of the Providence should not be proceeded with.
The Chief Constable would tell them that in selecting those five houses
he was guided by the fact that the houses were those which were doing
the least trade, and that he had selected in each case one out of a
cluster of houses, and that which appeared to be the worst of each
cluster.
Mr. Harry Reeve, the Chief Constable, repeated the figures as to
population, etc. He said in the whole borough there was one on-licence
to every 313 people. During the year 1904 there were 171 cases of
drunkenness in the borough, and 94 of those arose within the specified
area.
As to the Duke of Edinburgh in Tontine Street, the owners of which were
Messrs. Flint and Co., that was an ante 1869 beer on-licence. The
present licensee had been there since 1891. The rateable value of the
house was £24. It was a very small establishment. There were 17 other
on-licensed houses within 100 yards, 33 within 150, and 39 within 200
yards. Very little business was done at the house, and the holder of the
licence went out working a great deal of his time.
Cross-examined by Mr. Bodkin: It was from the whole of the Licensing
Justices that he received instructions. There was no complaint against
the landlord of the Duke of Edinburgh.
Re-examined by Mr. Pitkin: Witness had based his opinion that the trade
was small at the five houses from his observations. The statistics as to
the growth of the town applied to houses outside the congested area.
Before the Justices a petition was presented in favour of the renewal of
the licence of the Duke of Edinburgh.
Detective Sergeant Burniston said that The Duke of Edinburgh did a very
small trade, the majority of the customers being hawkers. He had visited
the houses many times during the day, and had usually found the bars
empty. Many times the landlord's wife had said that she did not make
enough money to pay the brewer his rent.
Mr. Bodkin submitted that there was under that particular provision of
the Act upon which the Committee sat, precisely the same powers as under
the old conditions of appeal to Quarter Sessions. He would submit that
there must be as careful and as exhaustive an enquiry in reference to
the issue to each house as there ever had been under the Licensing Act
of 1838. The chief case upon which one must rely in interpreting the
duties of the Quarter Sessions was the well-known Farnham case, and in
that case a statement was made by the Master of the Rolls, which really
gave the key to the whole of the decisions. The Justices in that case
formed themselves into a Committee, or appointed a Committee, and after
an exhaustive enquiry, made personally by themselves, they declined to
select from the houses generally within their area any particular houses
which they might oppose prima facie before going round and making an
inspection, and so finding out what they considered to be absolutely
unnecessary for the requirements of the locality. What they did was
decided as being the only possible and fair way of dealing with the
question. Instead of giving notice of objection to individual cases
selected out of Court, if he might so express it, they gave notice of
objection to every single house in their area. What the Master of the
Rolls said was “They (the Justices) were of opinion that the only fair
and satisfactory way of dealing with the question was to cause
objections to be served on all the owners of licensed houses, so that
the cases of all of them might be formally inquired into, and for that
purpose authority was given to the Justices' Clerk to object to such
renewals on the general ground that the houses were not required, and
also on the special grounds set out in that notice. That course gave
everyone concerned their opportunity, and the Justices had the
opportunity of weighing the merits and acting judicially in the matter
of which public houses should remain and which licences should be taken.
That is one course that might be taken, and it seems to me the
reasonable and proper course”. That procedure had not been adopted in
that case. It was very far from it. The procedure in this instance
apparently had been to adopt the view of a particular official, the
Chief Constable, and to instruct him to serve notices of objection
solely on the houses which he had selected without giving any
opportunity to the occupiers of such houses to show, by way of
comparison of trade, accommodation, situation, the state of repair, and
matters of that kind, how discrimination by the Justices should be made,
and which should be referred to Quarter Sessions. In doing so, he
submitted the Folkestone Justices had not followed the proper and legal
course. They might have given just as easily instructions to the Chief
Constable to serve notice on all houses in that selected area. How was a
Quarter Sessions, sitting 50 or 100 miles away from a town, to
distinguish between those and other houses in a selected area? A great
many of the compensation authority would be absolutely ignorant of the
locus in quo. Before any legal decision could be given in reference to
any one property, in accordance with the procedure conducted by the
Folkestone Justices, it was essential that there should be an enquiry
into the needs of the neighbourhood. The case of Howard and King in
Parliament was followed by the Raven and Southampton case, in which it
was contended that the procedure adopted in the Farnham case was a
reasonable one so that the course adopted by the Folkestone Justices was
not equivalent.
The Chairman said that he would advise the Committee that the action of
the Committee was sanctioned by an action in the King's Bench Division.
For the purposes of that day they would not act under the decision of
the King v Tolhurst. If the King's Bench had considered that the hearing
in the Tolhurst case carried the case any further than the Raven case,
they would no doubt have followed the decision in the Raven case.
Mr. Hohler said that he had acted for the Justices in that case, and
they said that they had not only acted on the police evidence, but they
had also acted upon their own local knowledge. The Lord Chief Justice,
in his judgement, had referred to that.
The Chairman said the Tolhurst case had decided that the evidence must
be sufficient to justify the Magistrates referring the matter to that
Court.
Mr. Bodkin asked the Committee to state a case on that decision.
The Chairman: No, certainly not.
Mr. Bodkin said that he had no authority to say so, but he had every
reason to believe that that decision was to be appealed against.
The Chairman replied that the Committee could not stay their hands on
the possibility of an appeal to the Court of Appeal.
Mr. Bodkin then addressed the Committee on behalf of his clients, and he
then called his evidences.
The Duke of Edinburgh.
Mr. Frederick Ralph, the landlord, said that he had been the tenant
since 5th March, 1891, and lived there with his wife and children. By
trade he was a bricklayer, and since he had been in occupation he had
had to work occasionally at his trade. He had had 15 children, of whom 7
had died. He did not work continuously at his trade. Witness and his
wife looked after the business. The actual trade was about 3 or 3½
barrels a week, and he paid 34s. per barrel. He made a profit upon that
from which he could live. He was quite willing to remain in the house.
Thirty or forty residents in Tontine Street had petitioned the Justices,
asking that the licence should be renewed. Witness had a jug trade at
his house from the residents in Tontine Street and thereabout.
Fishermen, tradesmen, and labourers came into his house, and sometimes
women came in, for he supposed they liked beer as well as anybody else.
There was not more trade done at the house next door to him (the
Clarendon). They were soldiers, and girls, and tradesmen; respectable
people. Sometimes soldiers came to his house.
Cross-examined by Mr. Pitkin: Witness denied that he told the Detective
Sergeant that he did not do much trade.
Councillor J. Jones said that people sent to that house mostly for
supper beer. Old-established people always liked Flint's beer in
Folkestone. One could always send a boy or a girl there, for there was
not much chance of their being interfered with, the house being a quiet
one. He should have thought that the house did as fair a trade as any
house of its class in England. He would be sorry to see that house taken
away from the street, and he thought that it was the last house that
should be interfered with.
Mr. Horace Offen, a baker and confectioner, of Dover Road, stated that
he had used the Duke of Edinburgh nearly every day for the last seven or
eight years. The middle class of people used the house. They were
working people, and he did not know of any people in Tontine Street who
visited it. He had always found people in the house.
Mr. Wm. Tiddy, photographer, of 60, Tontine Street, said he had gone in
the house sometimes in the evening, and had always found it very quiet
indeed. It was used by the mechanic class.
After retiring to consider their verdict, the Committee, through their
Chairman, announced their decision. Sir William Selfe said that in the
course of Mr. Bodkin's arguments on the question of law, it had been
said that the procedure of the Justices below in referring the licences
for the consideration of that Court was not in accordance with the law.
He (the Chairman) expressed the opinion that it was. The Committee had
considered each case separately, without regard to any of the other
cases that had been heard, and they had decided to refuse the renewal of
all the licences except that of the Perseverance, which they would
renew.
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Southeastern Gazette 5 December 1905.
East Kent Licensing Committee.
This Committee sat at the Sessions House, Canterbury, on Wednesday, to
award compensation in the cases of those licenses which had not been
renewed. Lord Harris presided.
In the case of the Duke of Edinburgh, Folkestone, Mr. Prosser (Clerk to
the Committee) stated that Messrs. Flint and Co., the owners of this
house had at first declined to deposit any agreement, electing to leave
the question of the compensation to the Inland Revenue. They had,
however, decided at the last moment, to bring it before that Committee.
Mr. Prosser observed that the claim put in by Mr. Hayward, the owner's
valuer, was £924, the tenant's, interest £97, and fixtures £77. Mr. R.M.
Mercer represented the owners, and Mr. Rutley Mowll, the tenant. It
appeared in evidence that the house was an ante ’69 beer-house. The
trade for the past year had been just over 100 barrels and 65 dozen of
bottled beer. This gave a total barrelage of 103 barrels, which yielded
to the brewer a net profit of 13s. per barrel, amounting to £67. He had
valued the property as an ante ’69 beer-house, rented at £16 per year,
at £400, which gave a total altogether of £1,304. The premises
unlicensed he might put at a rental of £30, and he would take off £5 for
repairs, giving a net rent of £25. If they multiplied that by 18 years’
purchase, it gave £450. In order to get that £30 rent they would have to
spend £70 in altering the premises. Thus a net sum of £380 had to come
off the £1,304, which grave the sum for which he was asking.
Mr. Ben Tyman gave evidence far the tenant, and eventually his case was
settled, but that of the owners would be further considered and
compensation awarded in January.
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Folkestone Herald 6 January 1906.
Local News.
The East Kent Compensation Authority, sitting at the Sessions House,
Canterbury, on Tuesday last, Lord Harris presiding, considered the
agreement deposited by Messrs. Flint and Co., owners of the Duke of
Edinburgh, Folkestone, and by the tenant. Mr. R.M. Mercer appeared for
the owners.
It will be remembered that at the regular sittings of this Authority
Messrs. Flint refused to allow the Compensation Authority to deal with
the matter, and expressed their intentions of going to the Inland
Revenue Authorities. At the last moment, however, they presented an
agreement, which Mr. Coble, the advisory to the Authority, was unable to
accept, he having had no facilities for making a valuation of his own.
The Clerk (Mr. Prosser) said that the agreement now deposited was for a
sum of £867, which were the figures suggested by Mr. Coble himself, the
amount being divided as follows:- To the owners £737; to the tenant £70;
to fixtures (belonging to the tenant) £60.
The Committee accepted the figures and the division.
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Southeastern Gazette 9 January 1906.
Local News.
The East Kent Quarter Sessions were held at the Sessions House,
Canterbury, on Tuesday, Lord Harris presiding.
A meeting of the Compensation Authority was held prior to the ordinary
Sessions to consider the compensation to be awarded in the case of the
Duke of Edinburgh, Folkestone. Mr. Prosser stated that the owners and
tenants of this house had deposited an agreement for £867, the same
figures as suggested by Mr. Cobb, the advisers of the authority. The
money was allocated as follows: — Owners £737, tenant’s fixtures £60,
and the tenant £70. The tenant agreed to this division.
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Folkestone Herald 4 September 1920.
Obituary.
We regret to announce the death of Mrs. Edith Ralph, aged 62 years,
which took place after a long illness, on August 28th, at the residence
of her daughter, 1, London Street, Folkestone. Deceased will be
remembered as being the licensee of the old Duke of Edinburgh Inn, in
Tontine Street, before the licence of the house expired. The funeral
took place on Wednesday.
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Folkestone Express 20 May 1933.
Obituary.
We record, with deep regret, the death of Mr. Frederick Ralph, of
Beaulieu, Bouverie Road West, Folkestone, who passed away suddenly at
Manor Court Nursing Home on Saturday last, in his 80th year.
Mr. Ralph had been in bad health for a long time; indeed, he had not
been able to leave his house for more than eight months, yet maintained
his accustomed keen interest in affairs.
Mr. Ralph was born in 1854 opposite old Newgate Prison (now demolished),
and he could remember the tolling of the Great Bell of St. Paul's when
the Prince Consort died in 1861, and, as a boy, witnessed the last
public execution which took place at Newgate in 1868 or 1869. After
occupying various posts in London (he was for a few months in the
Temple), he migrated to Hastings, where he met and married his wife, who
predeceased him by exactly five years. At Hastings he became a member of
the Royal Naval Volunteers, and in carrying out his duties as manager to
Messrs. Norton and Townsend he personally supervised, when a heavy sea
was running, the loading of the wines on board Lord Brassey's yacht “The
Sunbeam”. From Hastings Mr. Ralph went to Maidstone, where he became
proprietor of the Queen's Head Hotel. Here he organised the first
regatta to be held on the Medway.
Leaving Maidstone, Mr. Ralph came to Folkestone over 50 years ago, and
bought the Rose Hotel (now no more) in Rendezvous Street. The hotel was,
in those days, the recognised rendezvous of the principal citizens; the
large hotels further west were not built. As time went on his business
interests in Folkestone developed steadily. He was closely associated
with the formation of the Pleasure Gardens Theatre Company, and, at his
death, he was the senior member of the Board. He was always happy to
remember that the late Lord Radnor personally invited him to join the
Directorate. He took the greatest interest in theatrical affairs and
knew many stage celebrities. For a short time Mr. Ralph was connected
with the Victoria Pier. For many years he was Chairman of the Queen's
Hotel, resigning this position only recently owing to failing health. He
formed the Folkestone Billposting Company, which developed branches at
Dover and Hastings, this business being afterwards amalgamated with
Messrs. Partington, Kent, Limited, of which company he was Chairman at
the time of his death. He was also Chairman of the Burlington, and for
some years was Chairman of the Grand, afterwards remaining as Director.
About 30 years ago, Mr. Ralph formed the Leas Pavilion Company and took
a continuously active interest in this business to the last. He was for
some years on the Board of the Folkestone Gas Company, and likewise held
Directorships in Messrs. D. Baker and Co Ltd., and the Silver Spring
Mineral Water Company.
Mr. Ralph was always keenly interested in sport, and in his younger days
was a natural athlete, being, in particular, a lightweight boxer of
considerable merit, while many will also recall his great skill as a
billiards player.
As a businessman Mr. Ralph had foresight and courage. He took endless
pains to make anything he was connected with a success, and was
outstanding for his high standard of commercial probity. It would not be
too much to say that he was far more concerned with other people's
interests, if he felt responsible for them, than he was even for his
own. However, his judgement was rarely at fault, and his business
ventures were almost uniformly successful.
He was a man of very considerable personality, one with a finely
developed sense of humour, and he had an amazing collection of
anecdotes, with great powers as a mimic.
His greatest virtues were his sense of justice and his generosity.
Throughout his long life he performed kindnesses both small and great,
and it is no more than his due to say his passing will be widely
regretted. He felt the death of his wife very keenly, and during the
last few years he was sorely tried by his inability to lead as active a
life as formerly. Nevertheless, his interest in affairs remained
unimpaired to the last.
He leaves a son and daughter, Mr. F.H.M. Ralph and Miss Violet Ralph, to
mourn their loss.
The funeral took place on Wednesday at the Cheriton Road Cemetery.
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Folkestone Herald 25 March 1944.
Obituary.
We regret to record the death of Mrs. Margaret Annie Bridges, of “Coombe
Warren”, Capel-le-Ferne, which occurred recently at the age of 87.
Mrs. Bridge was the widow of Mr. Albert William Bridges, who died nearly
two years ago.
Mr. Bridges was the licensee of the Martello Hotel, Dover Road,
Folkestone, for 23 years, and licensee of the White Horse, Hawkinge, for
a similar period. He had also held the licences of the Duke of
Edinburgh, Tontine Street, Folkestone, and the New Inn, Elham.
Mrs. Bridges' father, Mr. John Whittingham Boorn was also connected with
the licensed trade for many years, and was at different times landlord
of the Royal Oak, on the Folkestone – Dover road, and the now extinct
Packet Boat and Channel, in Folkestone.
Mrs. Bridges, who is survived by one son and three daughters, was buried
at the Folkestone borough cemetery, Hawkinge, on Thursday last week.
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Folkestone Herald 25 March 1972.
Local News.
Alterations to a shop in Tontine Street, Folkestone, have revealed that
the premises at one time were a public house. From 1938 the premises
have been used as a newsagent’s and tobacconist’s shop. But in 1896 they
were the Duke' of Edinburgh public house. The sign, which has been
uncovered, reads “Flint and Co. Ltd., fine ales and porter”. Early
records show that the building was a refreshment room before it became a
pub. After several years as a public house, the premises became a
women’s and men’s outfitters. Another sign relating to the outfitters
has been found. It bears the name of Mrs. E. Carpenter. The shop is at
present owned by Mr. and Mrs. B. Limmer, who have had a new shop front
put in.
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LICENSEE LIST
DREW Charles c1869-70
SWAIN William 1870-85
(age 41 in 1881)
BRIDGES Albert 1885-88
HARRISON John 1888-91
RALPH Frederick 1891-06
(Also "Rose")
From More Bastions of the Bar by Easdown and Rooney
Census
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