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Perseverance, Dover Street c1850s – 1908
Licensees
William Peel 1864 1870
John Peel 1870 1872 From Blue Anchor
Elizabeth Peel 1872 1873
John Russell 1873 1886
Elizabeth Russell 1886 1888
George Bean 1888 1897
John Riddalls 1897 1901 To Princess Royal
Harry Morgan 1904 1904
Robert Tracey 1904 1906
Frederick Ralph 1906 1908 From Duke Of Edinburgh
Folkestone Express 13 May 1871
Friday, March 12th: Before The Mayor and J. Tolputt Esq.
Ellen Smith, wife of John Smith, of Ashford, was charged with being
drunk and using obscene language.
P.C. Hills deposed to taking the prisoner into custody for causing a
disturbance outside the Perseverance beerhouse, Dover Street.
Fined 2s. 6d. and 3s. 6d. costs for each offence.
Eveline Horan, wife of James horan was charged with being drunk and
resisting P.C. Hills in the execution of his duty.
P.C. Hills said about half past ten the previous day, when apprehending
Mrs. Smith, the prisoner tried to pull her away. I told her to let the
prisoner alone; she would not. By my instructions P.C. Swain took her in
charge.
The Bench fined her 5s. and 4s. 6d. costs, or seven days imprisonment.
Folkestone Express 23 December 1871
Advertisement:
MRS. ELIZABETH PEEL
DEALER IN RUSHES AND CANES FOR CHAIRS
PERSEVERANCE INN, DOVER STREET, FOLKESTONE.
Begs to thank her friends and the public for the support received by her
late husband, and trusts by strict attention to business to merit a
continuance of the same.
N.B. ALL ORDERS FOR CHIMNEY SWEEPING WILL BE EXECUTED AS BEFORE
Folkestone Chronicle 1 February 1873
Wednesday, January 29th: Before The Mayor and J. Tolputt Esq.
John Francis Russell applied for a temporary authority to sell beer to
be consumed on the premises in a house in Dover Street, under a
certificate granted to Elizabeth Peel. Application granted.
Folkestone Express 1 February 1873
Wednesday, January 29th: Before The Mayor and J. Tolputt Esq.
Temporary authority was granted to J.T. Russell as landlord of the
Perseverance, he having married the landlady.
Folkestone Express 30 August 1873
Wednesday, August 27th: Before The Mayor, J. Gambrill, J. Tolputt, and
J. Clarke Esq.
Annual Licensing Meeting
The licensing committee met at ten o'clock for the purpose of taking
into consideration the question of making any alteration in the hours
for opening and closing public houses. Shortly after eleven o'clock the
licensed victuallers present were called into Court, where the Clerk
said the Bench would hear anything with reference to the alteration of
the hours for the opening and closing.
The applications for beerhouses were then considered, all of which were
granted. In the case of the Perseverance on The Stade it was stated by
the landlord that he had expended £70 or £80 in enlarging the house, and
Mr. Gambrill said the attention of the overseers should be called to the
fact in order that the assessment might be raised.
Note: Why do they say this is in The Stade?
Folkestone Chronicle 20 November 1875
Saturday, November 13th: Before The Mayor, R.W. Boarer, W.J. Jeffreason,
T. Caister Esqs, and Gen. Armstrong.
John Thomas Russell, landlord of the Perseverance beerhouse, Dover
Street, was charged with selling intoxicating liquors during prohibited
hours on Sunday, the 7th inst.
Defendant pleaded guilty and was fined £5, and 8s. costs, the license
not to be endorsed.
John Marsh, George Shrubsole, Joshua Pope, William Spearpoint jun.,
Richard Bourne, Henry Winter, Henry Herring, John Holness, William
Spearpoint sen., and W. Wanstall were charged with being in the
Perseverance during prohibited hours on Sunday, not being lodgers,
servants, or travellers.
Fined 2s., and 8s. costs each.
Folkestone Express 20 November 1875
Saturday, November 13th: Before The Mayor, General Armstrong, T. Caister,
R.W. Boarer and W.J. Jeffreason Esqs.
John Thomas Russell, landlord of the Perseverance Inn, Dover Street, was
summoned for selling beer during prohibited hours on Sunday the 7th
inst., and John Marsh, butcher, Henry White, butcher, James Pope, flyman,
---- Shrubsole, carter, ---- Herring, general dealer, John Holmes,
flyman, Wm. Spearpoint jun., fisherman, Wm. Spearpoint sen., fisherman,
Richard Bourne, fisherman, and William Wanston, blacksmith, were charged
with being in the said house at unlawful hours.
Each of the defendants pleaded Guilty. Some amusement was created by the
elder Spearpoint, when called upon to plead, saying “Thank you”.
The defendant Russell, in extenuation, said that the boats came in very
late at night, and a boat's crew came in for refreshment and the door
was left open.
P.C. Keeler said he went to defendant's house at twenty minutes to eight
on Sunday morning, the 7th inst., and found the door open. He went in
and saw the landlord behind the bar and the other defendants in front.
He asked the landlord how it was, when he said he was very sorry, and
hoped that witness would look over it.
In answer to the Bench, Superintendent Wilshere said he had received
intimation of the trade carried on by the defendant Russell on Sunday
morning, but as a rule the house was well conducted.
The Mayor, addressing Russell, said the Bench had it in their power to
fine him £10, but taking into consideration the fact that it was his
first conviction, they would fine him in the mitigated penalty of £5 and
the costs. At the same time they wished to remind him that leaving his
door open was a great temptation for men to go in. Addressing the other
defendants, his Worship said that they were each liable to a heavy
penalty, but considering the circumstances of the case the Bench would
only fine them 2s. and 8s. costs each.
The money was paid in each instance.
Folkestone Express 25 March 1876
Tuesday, March 21st: Before The Mayor and Col. De Crespigny.
William Mellow, a seaman on board the Annie White collier, was charged
with being drunk and using obscene language at the Perseverance Inn,
Dover Street, on the previous evening.
Prisoner pleaded Guilty.
John Russell, landlord of the Perseverance said that at about ten
minutes to eleven o'clock the prisoner came into the house, but witness
refused to draw him any beer. Upon that prisoner became very violent and
he had to be given into custody.
P.C. Ovenden said he took the prisoner into custody, and he was so
violent that the assistance of three other men had to be obtained to
take him to the station.
The Bench fined the prisoner 5s. for being drunk, and 5s. for using
obscene language, together with 3s. 6d. costs in each case. The money
was paid by the mate of the ship to which prisoner belonged.
Folkestone Express 19 July 1879
Monday, July 14th: Before The Mayor, Captain Crowe, Alderman Hoad, M.J.
Bell and J. Fitness Esqs.
Mary Ann Scamp, an old woman, pleaded Guilty to being drunk and refusing
to quit licensed premises, the Perseverance Inn, on the 12th inst.
P.C. Bashford proved the charge, and the Bench inflicted a fine of 2s.
6d., costs 3s.6d., or in default seven days' hard labour.
Folkestone News 1 May 1886
Wednesday, April 28th:
Mrs. Russell, administratrix of her deceased husband, received the usual
licence to carry on the business of the Perseverance Inn.
Folkestone Express 22 December 1888
Friday, December 13th: Before Colonel De Crespigny, Surgeon General
Gilbourne, and Alderman Banks.
John Davidson was charged with stealing a woollen shawl, and a silver
mounted walking stick, the property of some person unknown.
Sergeant Harman said he was in Dover Street about half past seven on
Thursday evening, in plain clothes, and from a communication he received
from Boat Inspector Brice, he watched the prisoner, who he saw come out
of the Perseverance beerhouse with the shawl over his shoulders and the
stick in his hand. He saw prisoner go into several shops and public
houses, and at half past eight followed him into the Raglan at the top
of Dover Street. He cautioned him and asked him where he got the shawl
and stick from. He replied “The shawl belongs to me. It was my mother's.
I didn't steal the stick. It belongs to some gentleman”. He took him to
the police station and charged him on suspicion of stealing the
articles, and detained him for enquiries to be made. Prisoner said he
did not steal the stick; he only took it. There was a lot of flymen in
the house at the time. He asked prisoner what house, and he said he
would go back and show him, but witness declined to go. Prisoner was
under the influence of drink, and made no reply at the station to the
charge.
Superintendent Taylor asked for a remand in order that he might trace
the owner of the stick, which had on the silver knob the initials “F.C.S.”
On Saturday the accused was again brought up, and there being no further
evidence adduced, he was discharged.
Folkestone Express 11 October 1890
Monday, October 6th: Before Capt. W. Carter, Aldermen Dunk and Pledge,
J. Fitness, S. Penfold, and E.T. Wards Esqs.
Thomas Clayton, a young man of decent appearance, was charged with
stealing 18s. in silver and bronze, the property of Joseph Whiting,
landlord of the Bricklayers' Arms.
Joseph Whiting said: I am landlord of the Bricklayers' Arms, in
Fenchurch Street. Prisoner came to my house and slept there on Friday
last. He was also there on Saturday about the house, sometimes in the
kitchen and sometimes in the bar. He was there on Saturday evening. Just
before, he said he was not going to stay as he had no money to pay for
his bed. About seven o'clock he went out of the front door which leads
to the bar. I left the bar about the same time as prisoner was leaving
the bar and went to the back part of the house and left the bar
unattended. When prisoner told me he had no money to pay for his bed he
was in front of the bar. I was absent about a minute, and I went to the
till to pay a girl for some fish, when I found I had been robbed. I had
just before been to the till, and whatever had been taken was done
between the time I was absent from the bar and my return. Prisoner could
easily have got at the till by leaning over the counter. Prisoner came
back and said he would pay for a bed, and for that of a friend. He went
upstairs and I followed him, and saw him come back, and he paid me 1s.
6d. for his and another man's bed and for some beer. I missed from my
till about 15s. in bronze and about four or five shillings in silver. I
never mentioned my loss until I gave him in charge about nine o'clock. I
told prisoner then that it looked very suspicious on his part, and gave
him in custody. Prisoner said nothing. P.C. Swift said “You will have to
come along with me” and he replied “All right”.
Cross-examined by the prisoner: You had money on Friday night and
changed money on Saturday morning. The time you paid for the bed was
about nine o'clock. On Saturday morning you might have spent about 6d.
or 8d. You told me when you left to take charge of the parcel until you
returned.
George Bean, landlord of the Perseverance, said prisoner went to his
house on Saturday evening. He was alone. He called for a small soda.
There were other people in the bar. He treated people in the bar to the
amount of 2s., which he paid for in coppers. He saw he had 2s. 6d. in
silver with the coppers.
Jane Tritton said prisoner came to the bar of the Royal George on
Saturday evening. Two men went with him. He called for drinks for
himself and companions, which he paid for in coppers, to the amount of
one shilling. He asked her if she would mind coppers. She said she was
short of them, and gave him 2s. 6d. in silver for that amount of
coppers.
Stephen Hall deposed to prisoner treating him, and his having a large
quantity of coppers in his possession.
P.C. Swift, who apprehended the prisoner, said he asked him “How long
have you been in the bar?” He replied “Oh, I don't know. Anything wrong
or anybody robbed?” He replied “Yes”. Prisoner said “What's the charge?”
and he told him and prisoner answered “All right”. On searching him he
found on him 5s. and a halfpenny in bronze, and 2s. 6d. and two sixpenny
pieces in silver. He was charged before the Superintendent in his
presence and he replied “All right. It is true”.
Prisoner said he did not remember saying that.
In reply to a question, the constable said he was sober.
Prisoner elected to be tried by the Bench, and said that he had been
hopping, and the money he had about him was what he had been paid. He
denied that he told prosecutor that he had no money.
The Chairman told prisoner that the Bench considered him Guilty.
Tradesmen must be protected in their business. It was a gross theft. He
would be sent to gaol for six weeks' hard labour.
Folkestone Chronicle 6 December 1890
Local News
At the Police Court yesterday before Mr. Ward and Alderman Pledge, John
Reilly, a tramp, was charged with breaking a square of glass at the
Perseverance Inn, and doing damage to the extent of 5s. He was further
charged with being drunk.
The landlord of the Perseverance (Mr. George Bean) proved the offence,
and the prisoner was sentenced to seven days' hard labour for being
drunk, and to a similar term of imprisonment for doing wilful damage.
Folkestone Chronicle 17 October 1891
Quarter Sessions
Monday, 12th October: Before J.C. Lewis Coward Esq.
A true bill was returned against James McCarthy, who was charged with
having, on the 15th of last July, stolen from the dwelling house of Mary
Campbell, Brockman Road, two dimity curtains, four valances, three pairs
of linen sheets, and a number of towels, of the value of £5 12s.
Mr. L. Glyn prosecuted, and the prisoner, who pleaded Not Guilty, was
not defended.
P.C. Walter Down was called and stated that on Wednesday, the 15th of
July, about half past nine in the morning, he went to the Oddfellows Inn
(sic), Radnor Street. He there saw the bundle produced. It contained the
articles which were the subject of the present charge. Shortly after his
arrival at the Oddfellows, the prisoner entered. He asked him if the
bundle belonged to him. He said “Yes”. Witness asked him where he got
them from, and he replied “I came by them honestly. I bought them at
Folkestone”. He then asked the prisoner to take him to the place where
he bought them, but he refused to. He told the prisoner he should take
him to the police station on suspicion of having stolen the goods.
By the prisoner: Witness was called to the Oddfellows about half past
nine, and about twenty minutes elapsed after he first saw the prisoner.
He went to the station quietly and seemed to take it in good humour. He
did not consider it necessary to handcuff prisoner. When he (prisoner)
went into the Rendezvous, witness waited outside for him. He suggested
that witness should go back to the Oddfellows and wait for the man who
sold them.
The Recorder: Do I understand you allowed him to go and have a drink
after you arrested him?
Witness: Yes, sir; he was determined to go.
The Recorder: A very obliging policeman, but it is fortunate for you
there wasn't a back door.
Supt. Taylor said he remembered prisoner being brought to the station.
Witness told him he had been brought there on suspicion of having stolen
the goods. He said he was a dealer and had bought them. Witness asked
him of whom, and he answered that he bought them at Folkestone, and had
come by them honestly.
At the request of the prisoner Supt. Taylor produced a statement which
the prisoner made after he had been committed for trial and also a
letter which he wrote in prison. Nothing was known against him by the
London Police and he could not have obtained information easily without
the prisoner's help. There were no scratches on his face to indicate
scratches by broken glass. He found that he was in company with a man in
uniform on the Monday and Tuesday nights. Prisoner said the man belonged
to the 17th Lancers. He had seen the Sergeant Major and had had the
regiment paraded.
Henry Robus proved having purchased the articles at the sale of Mr.
Owen, for Miss Campbell, on the 17th July. 1889. They were all marked
“Owen”. He took them to 21, Brockman Road. He visited the house on the
Sunday before the robbery. The goods were all right then.
Jane Davis said she was employed at the Oddfellows Inn. On the morning
in question prisoner showed her the articles and asked her what she
thought of his night's work. He gave her 13 towels to take to Mrs.
Carter to sell for 2s. Mrs. Carter said she would see about it when she
came down. Mrs. Carter was ill and could not attend that day.
Prisoner: What's the matter with her?
Witness: She's ill.
Prisoner: Yes, with the perjury! She committed gross perjury before the
Magistrates. I shall prove it presently.
Mr. Glyn put in a certificate, and the witness Davis said she was
suffering from dropsy and diseased kidneys.
Stephen Bailey, labourer, said he lodged at the Oddfellows. The prisoner
also asked him what he thought of his night's work. He asked him to lend
him twopence for a drink, and to buy a pair of sheets for 1s. He did not
buy them.
Mr. Glyn then read the depositions of Mrs. Carter, which were given
before the Magistrates. She stated that the prisoner slept at her house
on Saturday, Sunday and Monday nights. He was absent on the Tuesday
night and came home at seven o'clock on the morning of the 15th. At
quarter to eight prisoner was in the scullery, and when he asked her to
buy some towels she said “You didn't come by these things honestly and
take them out of my house. Where did you get them from?” He said “Mind
your own business”.
Edith Ralph, wife of the landlord of the Duke Of Edinburgh, stated that
the prisoner brought some towels into the bar and she gave him 1s. 10d.
for ten. When she found the name “Owen” on them she took them up to
Supt. Taylor.
Jemima Davidson, of 6, South Street, stated that she bought two towels
from prisoner for 3d.
This was the case for the prosecution, and prisoner called Charles
William Young, Master of the Elham Union Workhouse. He stated that
prisoner was admitted to the Workhouse Infirmary on the 24th of June and
was discharged on the 13th of July (Monday). He was in bed the whole
time, and was discharged at his own request.
Prisoner said that proved the perjury on the part of the witness Carter,
who stated that he slept at the Oddfellows on the Saturday, Sunday and
Monday, whereas he was not discharged from the Workhouse until the
Monday.
George Bean, landlord of the Perseverance, was called on the prisoner's
behalf, but did not put in an appearance.
Harry Stone, alias Lucas, stated that he saw prisoner in the
Perseverance at half past twelve on Monday. He remained in his company
until eleven at night. The next day he went into the Perseverance about
the same time and saw the prisoner. In the afternoon they went to
Cheriton to get a job for the prisoner. They went back to the
Perseverance, and in the evening a man came in dressed in soldier's
clothes. It was the uniform of the 17th Lancers. They all went out at
eleven o'clock. He went with Supt. Taylor, but was unable to identify
the soldier.
Prisoner then read a long statement. He said he had work to go to at
Cheriton at five o'clock on the Wednesday morning, and as he was the
worse for drink on Tuesday night, and fearing that he might overlay of
he went to the Oddfellows, he slept under a bathing machine on the
beach. He got to the White Lion, Cheriton, at five in the morning. His
employer did not turn up and whilst he was waiting a soldier came up
with the bundle of goods. They talked for some time. He said he was
Captain Owen's servant, and that he was going abroad and had given him
everything he did not want. He asked him (prisoner) if he knew where to
sell them, and he said very likely Mrs. Carter would buy them. The
soldier said he had another lot and if prisoner liked to take them to
the Oddfellows he could have the middle man's profits and he would
follow with the other bundle. He (prisoner) did not know they had been
stolen and carried the bundle through the open streets, passing a large
number of people on the way. Since he was arrested he had given every
assistance to the police.
The jury found prisoner Not Guilty of stealing the goods, but Guilty on
the second count of receiving them knowing them to have been stolen, and
he was sentenced to three calendar months' hard labour.
Folkestone Express 17 October 1891
Quarter Sessions
Monday, October 11th: Before John Charles Lewis Coward Esq.
James McCarthy, 29, described as an engine fitter, was indicted for
stealing two dimity curtains, three pairs of linen sheets, and other
articles, the property of Mary Campbell, and which articles were left in
an unoccupied house in Brockman Road.
Mr. Glyn, instructed by Mr. Minter, prosecuted.
P.C. Down said on the 15th July he went to the Oddfellows Arms, in
Radnor Street, and was there shown the bundle of things produced. He saw
the prisoner come in and asked him if the bundle belonged to him.
Prisoner said “Yes”, and added that he came by them honestly - he bought
them in Folkestone. Witness asked him to go with him to the place where
he bought them, and he said “No”. He then told prisoner he should take
him to the station on a charge of stealing them.
By the prisoner: You took the matter lightly and good-humouredly, as
though there was nothing in it. You went into the Rendezvous and had a
drink while I stood outside.
The Recorder: Do I understand you allowed him to go into a public house
and have a drink while you had him in charge? – He was determined to go,
sir.
Supt. Taylor said he had a conversation with the prisoner at the police
station. He asked him to account for the possession of the goods. He
said “I bought them. I am a dealer”. He asked who he bought them of, and
he did not say – he said he came by them honestly.
Prisoner asked for the statement he made before the Magistrates, and a
letter he wrote from Canterbury to the Superintendent to be produced and
read to the jury.
Supt. Taylor put in a long statement made by the prisoner after his
committal, and the Recorder read it. It's purport was that he received
the articles of a soldier belonging to the 17th Lancers, who, he said,
was an officer's servant, and wanted to find a purchaser for them, and
on his (prisoner's) suggestion he was allowed to carry the bundle to the
Oddfellows. Next morning he sold some of the towels quite openly to get
a drink. The Recorder also read a long letter written by the prisoner
from Canterbury, in which he said he had been the landlord of a public
house at Devonport. He married the landlady and they separated by mutual
consent. His wife had allowed him upwards of a guinea a week. He had
also received two small legacies, and had written stories for weekly
journals, and had won money in newspaper prize competitions, so that he
had no necessity to work.
In reply to the prisoner, Supt. Taylor said all the information he gave
as to his antecedents was correct. The London police knew nothing. He
found by enquiry that the prisoner was in company with a man in uniform
two days previous to his arrest. There was no man in the 17th Lancers of
the description given by the prisoner. There was no Capt. Owen in the
17th Lancers. Prisoner said a man named Stone or Lucas could identify
the man, and he took Stone to the Hounslow Barracks, where the 17th
Lancers had just arrived, but he could not identify anyone. The
statement made by the prisoner about his wife was not true. She had not
made him an allowance.
Henry Rebus proved purchasing the articles at a sale of Mr. Owen's goods
in 1889, for Miss Mary Campbell. The articles were all marked “Owen”,
and had lot tickets on them. He took them to a house belonging to Miss
Campbell, 29, Brockman Road, and locked them up in a room. He saw the
things safe as late at the 14th or 15th July of this year. He missed the
things on the 19th. The storm sash of the window had been broken open,
and the things were gone.
Jane Davis, wife of John Davis, a lodger at the Oddfellows Arms, said on
Wednesday morning, the 15th July, she saw the prisoner, who asked her to
go into the kitchen to see his night's work. She went, and untied the
bundle. He gave her thirteen towels to take up to Mrs. Carter to sell
for 2s. to get him a drink. She took them to Mrs. Carter, and brought
them back. Mrs. Carter said she would see about them when she got up.
She had seen Mrs. Carter that morning. She had been ill for a week and
was unable to attend.
Prisoner: What is the matter with Mrs. Carter? – I don't know.
Prisoner: Perhaps she has got perjury the matter with her. I can prove
she committed perjury before the Magistrates.
Witness said she had a doctor's certificate.
In answer to prisoner, witness said she lent him an open basket to take
the towels out in. There were about 20 people in the house.
Prisoner caused some amusement by reading a list of the people who were
in the house.
Stephen Bailey, another lodger at the Oddfellows, said the prisoner
asked him to feel the weight of a bundle of linen. He then asked him to
lend him 2d., or to give him 1s. for a pair of sheets. When Mrs. Carter
came down she sent for a policeman.
Mr. Glyn put in the deposition of Lucy Carter, and told prisoner the
doctor had been sent for, and when he arrived he would be allowed to put
questions to him. The deposition stated that the prisoner lodged in her
house on Saturday, Sunday and Monday, but was absent on Tuesday night.
He returned early on Wednesday.
Edith Ralph, wife of the landlord of the Duke Of Edinburgh Inn, Tontine
Street, said the prisoner went to her house with some towels in an open
basket. He asked her to buy some, and she bought 10 for 1s. 10d. In the
afternoon she examined them, and finding a name on them, she took them
to the police station. Prisoner told her he got the towels honestly.
In answer to the Recorder, witness said she had not heard of the robbery
before she took the towels to the Superintendent.
Jemima Davidson said she bought two towels of the prisoner in the Duke
Of Edinburgh for 3d.
Prisoner called Charles William Young, Master of the Elham Union
Workhouse, who stated that the prisoner was admitted to the infirmary on
the 24th June and discharged on the 13th July.
Prisoner said that proved the perjury of the witness Carter, who was so
ill she could not come.
Henry Stone, who said “Lucas” was his nickname, said he was a plasterer,
residing at Folkestone. He saw the prisoner in the Perseverance on
Monday from twelve o'clock until five or ten minutes to eleven, and on
Tuesday from 12.30 until eleven. There was a man there in soldier's
clothes on Tuesday night. His uniform was like that of the 17th Lancers.
Prisoner said he should like to get work in the town, and they went
together about eight o'clock oto the Pavilion Fields to see if they
could get work. When they returned the soldier was still there, and they
left about eleven.
In reply to Mr. Glyn, witness said he went to Hounslow, and saw the
regiment paraded, but did not recognise the soldier among them.
Prisoner made a long statement, in which he attempted to show that he
was innocent in “thought, word, or deed”. Had he been guilty, it was not
likely he would have stayed in the town to be arrested.
Mr. Glyn, in his closing remarks to the jury, said that on his own
statement the prisoner was a thief, because he said he received goods
from a soldier and agreed to find a customer for them, instead of which
he sold a portion of them and spent the money on drink.
The Recorder, in summing up, said they must all regret to see a man
possessing the ability the prisoner had displayed standing in such a
position. He commented on the statements of the prisoner, and compared
them with the evidence, pointing out that there was proof that the
prisoner was dealing with the goods very shortly after they were stolen.
The jury, without leaving the box, found the prisoner Guilty of
receiving the goods knowing them to be stolen.
Superintendent Taylor produced a copy of the prisoner's discharge from
the army and a letter he had received relating to that part of the
prisoner's statement as to his keeping a public house. Nothing was known
about him by the London police. The address he gave was that of a court
which had been pulled down for improvements.
The Recorder said the jury had taken a merciful view of the case.
Prisoner had been in prison three months, and he would be sentenced
therefore to only three months' hard labour.
Folkestone Chronicle 29 May 1897
Saturday, May 22nd: Before The Mayor and Messrs. Lord, Fitness, Pledge,
Vaughan, and Salter.
Thomas Smith, a boisterous character well known to the local police, who
did not appear when his name was called, was summoned for refusing to
quit licensed premises when ordered to do so, and with creating a
disorderly scene and assaulting the landlord by kicking him severely.
The latter charge was not, however, pressed.
George Bean, landlord of the Perseverance Inn, Dover Street, gave
evidence to the effect that on the previous Tuesday evening Smith came
into his house shortly before 6 o'clock. He was not then drunk, but was
in such a state that witness refused to serve him, upon which he became
violently abusive, refusing to leave the premises although witness
ordered him to go several times. Witness then went round to eject him,
when Smith seized him by the throat and struggled violently, kicking
witness severely on the legs, and tearing his collar and necktie from
his neck. A man named Russell, an upholsterer, seeing the fracas,
assisted witness, who, having ejected the man, went in and bolted the
door. Smith returned, and finding the door fast, dealt it repeated
kicks, and also broke the window in the upper panel. The damage had cost
12s.
The Bench inflicted a fine of 20s., and costs, 10s., or 14 days'
imprisonment.
Folkestone Express 29 May 1897
Saturday, May 22nd: Before The Mayor, J. Pledge, J. Fitness, J. Hoad, J.
Holden and T.J. Vaughan Esqs.
Thomas Smith was summoned for refusing to quit a public house and with
assaulting the landlord. He did not appear. Mr. Minter represented the
prosecutor.
The landlord of the Perseverance Inn, Dover Street, said defendant
entered his house on Tuesday evening at ten minutes to six. He had been
in in the morning, and was ordered out. In the evening he was in such a
state that he was refused anything to drink. He then became abusive, and
was ordered out, but declined to go. Witness went round to put him out,
and defendant seized him by the throat and said no-one could turn him
out. He tore witness's clothing, and Mr. Russell, upholsterer, came over
and helped to get the defendant out. The door was locked. He then
“bashed the door” and broke a window, and did damage to the amount of
12s. There were two or three others in the bar at the time, but they did
not interfere.
Fined 20s. and 10s. costs, or 14 days' imprisonment.
Folkestone Herald 29 May 1897
Police Court Notes
On Saturday – the Mayor (Alderman Banks) presiding – a man named Thomas
Smith was summoned for refusing to quit licensed premises, assaulting
the landlord, and being disorderly.
The defendant did not appear, and the service of the summons being
proved by P.S. Harman, the Bench decided to hear the case ex parte. Mr.
Minter appeared for the complainant.
Mr. George Bean, landlord of the Perseverance public house, in Dover
Street, said that defendant came into his house on Tuesday evening at
about ten minutes to 6. He had been there in the morning, but was
ordered out in consequence of his bad behaviour. He was not drunk, but
had been drinking, and witness refused to supply him. He became very
abusive, and witness ordered him out several times, but he refused to
go. When witness tried to put him out, defendant seized him by the
throat and struggled violently. He said neither witness nor any other
man could put him out, and tore off witness's coat. At last witness got
him out with the assistance of a neighbour named Russell. Then witness
bolted the door, and the defendant tried to come in again and kicked the
door several times. He also broke a window in the door, value about 12s.
Two or three other people were in the bar when defendant was there.
The Bench fined defendant 20s., 10s. costs, or 14 days' imprisonment.
Folkestone Up To Date 29 May 1897
Hall Of Justice
On Saturday Thomas Smith was fined 20s. and costs for refusing to quit
the Perseverance Inn, Dover Street.
Folkestone Herald 18 September 1897
Police Court Report
On Wednesday – the Mayor presiding – transfer licence was granted to Mr.
John Riddals, Perseverance, Dover Street, former tenant Mr. George Bean.
Folkestone Express 2 October 1897
Wednesday, September 29th: Before The Mayor, Aldermen J. Pledge, W.W.
Salter and G. Spurgen, J. Fitness, T.J. Vaughan, and J. Holden Esqs.
Eliza Harvey was charged with being drunk and disorderly on the 21st
inst. in Dover Street.
P.C. Burniston said that he saw defendant, who was very drunk, going in
to the Perseverance Inn. He went in and told the landlord not to serve
her. She came out and began using obscene language. He took her name and
address.
The Magistrates' Clerk said that she was an old offender, but had not
been charged for years.
The defendant, who did not appear, was fined 5s. and 10s. costs.
Folkestone Chronicle 11 February 1899
Inquest
In the Folkestone Town Hall on Tuesday an inquest was held by Mr. John
Minter on the body of Charles Murphy, an able seaman, whose home was at
Dover.
Patrick Dennis Newman, ordinary seaman, of the brig Cambois, of
Folkestone (Captain Allenson), said he knew the deceased. The brig
arrived from Shields into Folkestone with coals about a week ago. They
were discharging on the pier at the bottom of the Tram Road. On Sunday
night, between 6 and 7, Murphy left the ship to go ashore. He had had
drink, but was “nearer sober than drunk”. He seemed a man of about 48 to
50 years of age, but was believed to be younger. He was single. Witness
slept on board the ship, and did not see Murphy again till his body was
picked up between 12 and 1 on Monday noon in the outer harbour, under
the ship.
Albert Hart, of 35a, North Street, Folkestone, a young fisherman, said
on Monday morning he was in the harbour at low tide in his boats, close
to the Cambois, when he saw a man's leg sticking out from under the
bottom of the boat. There was then just depth of water to cover the
body. Witness went and told a man on the harbour pier, who called
someone else, and the men went down and dragged the body out.
Dennis Murphy said deceased was his brother, and was 33 years of age.
Their mother lived in Union Street, Dover, and that was deceased's home.
Chas. Joseph Venner said he lived at 35, Dover Street, Folkestone, and
was a fisherman. He saw deceased in a public house in Dover Street on
Sunday night at a quarter past nine. He was then quite sober. He was
with him in the Perseverance Hotel, and he was perfectly sober in the
public house, and also when he left it.
Captain Allenson said he began to discharge a week ago on the Tram Road,
bow on, and had a platform of three boards as a gangway for passage to
and from the pier and the boat at the bow. He paid Murphy his weekly
wages on the Saturday night, telling him “not to make a fool of
himself”, and then left him. There being no work on Sunday, and the
Captain being a resident of Folkestone, he went to his family and left
the men. On Sunday at five in the afternoon he visited the brig and
found all right. The men were not there, except the cook, but he did not
want them. His opinion was that Murphy, in passing along the planks to
go on board, had fallen, at low water, to the bottom of the harbour and
been killed in the fall, and that the ebbing tide had carried his body
under the bottom of the brig.
Dr. Gilbert gave evidence as to having been called to see the body in a
boat-house in the fishmarket on Wednesday afternoon. There was no mark
of violence, but an abrasion on the right side of the forehead and nose
which, in the doctor's opinion, had been produced by a fall. Death was
from suffocation, after being stunned by the fall and dropping deep in
the mud and water.
Captain Allenson, re-called, said along the fishmarket and harbour,
where his brig was lying, the path at night was dangerous to the most
careful and most sober man, as there were no lamps to light him on his
way, and no chains to prevent him falling.
The jury returned a verdict of Accidental Death, and added the rider
that the South Eastern Company ought to place lamps to enable any man
going on board a ship in the harbour at night to lessen his danger of
falling over the pier.
Folkestone Express 11 February 1899
Inquest
An inquest was held by the Borough Coroner (Mr. J. Minter) at the Town
Hall on Tuesday afternoon, on Charles Murphy, whose body was picked up
in the outer harbour between twelve and one on Monday.
Patrick Dennis Newman, ordinary seaman on the brig Cambois, of
Folkestone (Captain Harrison), identified deceased as Charles Murphy,
who was an able bodied seaman on the same vessel. The ship arrived from
Shields with coal about a week or fortnight ago. They were discharging
outside the Bridge now. Deceased sailed in the ship from Shields. On
Sunday evening, between six and seven, he saw the deceased on the ship
in his bunk in the forecastle house on deck asleep. He afterwards turned
out and went ashore. He was not exactly sober, but could not be
described as drunk. He was about 48 or 50 years of age. He was a single
man, and his home was at Dover. He saw no more of deceased until he was
picked up between twelve and one on Monday in the outer harbour. He was
practically underneath the ship. Witness heard nothing during Sunday
night.
Charles Joseph Venner, of 35, Dover Street, a fisherman, said he knew
deceased well. He saw him in the Perseverance in Dover Street on
Saturday evening between nine and half past. He was as sober as a judge
then, “as sober as I am now”, added witness.
Albert Hart, a lad living at 35a, North Street, said on Monday morning
between twelve and one he was walking in the harbour. The tide was going
out. He saw a man's leg sticking out from beneath the ship Cambois The
water was just covering deceased. It was high tide at six a.m. that
morning. He told a man who was just going down the plank. He called the
others, and they dragged deceased out.
Captain Harrison said he began to discharge a week ago. They were bow on
to the tramway, and discharging into wagons, which carried the coal into
trucks. If the ship laid alongside they would have to pay so much dues
because the coal did not belong to the S.E.R. Company. He was on board
on Sunday afternoon at five o'clock. He turned the men to at six
o'clock, and deceased was not there, but that was a usual occurrence.
They often had someone missing the first thing in the morning, and he
did not think anything about it. The plank by which the crew went on
board was by the port side. Witness's idea was that deceased fell and
was killed by the fall.
Dr. J.W. Thornton Gilbert said on Monday about ten minutes past twelve
he was called by the police and went to the Fish Market, and in a stable
he saw the body of deceased, which he examined. He was dead, and in his
(Witness's) opinion had been so for a matter of six or seven hours.
There were no outward marks of violence on the body, but on the forehead
and the right side of the nose there was an abrasion which might have
been produced by a fall. Looking at the extent of the abrasion it was,
in his opinion, caused by a fall. He could not make out any fracture of
the skull, and in his judgement death was due to the fall, which had
caused a concussion, followed by suffocation either by water or mud. He
was covered with mud, and his pockets were full of mud. It was possible
that he might have fallen face downwards into the mud, and so have been
smothered.
Captain Harrison, re-called, said it was a very dangerous spot, and it
took the most perfectly sober man in the world to go across to the ship
in safety, because there was no light, and there were railway metals and
trucks all about the place. A persn had to be very careful indeed to
cross safely.
The jury returned a verdict of “Accidental Death”, but there was no
evidence to show how caused, and added a rider that representations
should be made to the South Eastern Railway Company to mitigate the
danger which existed at the spot where the accident occurred by placing
a lamp there.
Folkestone Herald 11 February 1899
Inquest
On Tuesday afternoon the Borough Coroner (Mr. J. Minter) held an inquest
at the Town Hall, touching the death of Charles Murphy, who was found in
the Harbour on the previous day.
Patrick Dennis Newman deposed that he was a seaman and had no home. He
was on board the brig Cambois, of Folkestone, Captain Harrison. The
deceased, Charles Murphy, was an able seaman. The ship came from
Shields, and arrived about a week or a fortnight ago. They were
discharging now by the side of the bridge at the Tram Road. On Sunday
night, between six and seven o'clock, witness saw him on board the ship,
in his bunk. He turned out and left the ship, going ashore. He could not
be called drunk; he was nearer sober than drunk. He was about 50 or 48,
and his home was at Dover. Witness did not see any more of him till he
was picked up. He was found between twelve and one o'clock, their dinner
time. It was in the outer harbour, near the ship. Witness was not there
at the time. Witness did not hear the least thing during Sunday night.
The jury, at this stage, proceeded to the Cemetery to view the body. On
their return the following evidence was taken:-
Charles Joseph Venner, of Dover Street, fisherman, deposed that he knew
deceased well. He saw him on the evening in question in the Perseverance
Inn, Dover Street. Witness went at a quarter past nine, and the deceased
was there. Deceased left at half past nine. He was sober. He never saw
him afterwards.
Albert Hart, a fisher lad, of 35a, North Street, deposed that on the
previous morning (Monday), between 12 and 1 o'clock, he was in the
harbour, down by the ships. He was not in a boat. The tide was going
out. He was close to the vessel Cambois. He saw a man's leg sticking
out. (High tide was at six in the morning.) He told a man who was just
going down the plank. The man put his boots on and told the others. They
dragged the deceased out.
Charles Joseph Venner, on being re-called, said that the deceased was as
sober as a judge when he went away at half past nine. He did not see him
again. He did not say he would not have any more because he had to coal
in the morning.
Deceased's brother said that his mother lived at Union Street, Dover.
When he went on Monday morning and enquired where was “Rooney” (that was
the nickname of his brother) there was no answer given. He thought
deceased had gone ashore.
Captain Harrison, of the Cambois, deposed that the ship was bow on, with
three deals from the bow to the tramway. Asked why they did not lie
alongside, he said the cargo did not belong to the South Eastern Railway
Company. Asked the difference, he said it was better for the ship. He
was aboard on Sunday at five o'clock in the evening, and came ashore. He
afterwards found the deceased missing, which was a common occurrence in
the morning. Witness did not think anything about the matter. He had
said “Don't make a stupid of yourself”, and he said he would not, but he
did not turn up. They found the body on the starboard side – the right
hand side.
The Coroner: My nautical education tells me that, Captain.
The witness added that, looking at the position where the body was
found, his opinion was that the deceased fell on the ground and struck,
killing himself. As the water went off, it floated him round the ship,
no doubt.
Dr. James William Thornton Gilbert deposed that on the previous day, at
about ten past twelve, he was called by the police, and went to the
Fishmarket. In a stable he saw the body of deceased, which he examined.
He was dead, and in witness's opinion, had been so for about six or
seven hours. On the forehead and the right side of the nose there was a
large abrasion, which might have been produced by a fall. Looking at its
extent, he thought it was so produced. He could not make out any
fracture of the skull. In his judgement the cause of death was
concussion from a fall, and the man died possibly from suffocation.
The Captain said the deceased could go on board either by the one way or
round the harbour through the gates. He could get across the bridge.
There was a watchman on each side. There would be no light on the Royal
George side from the gates up to the vessel. The only light would be the
steamboat. It would take the most sober man to go along on a dark night
in safety. It was a dangerous place. There were metals and railway
trucks all around.
The Coroner having summed up, the jury returned a verdict of Accidental
Death. The foreman remarked that it was considered there ought to be
some protection made, but the place was not a public thoroughfare.
The Coroner said it was a thoroughfare for all persons who came there,
and were berthed there with their ships. He remarked on the difficulty
of preventing accidents in harbours. To a landsman it looked very
dangerous to see the men running up and down on the planks of the
colliers. He would forward a representation if the jury desired him to
do so.
The jury assented, and a representation will be made on the matter,
probably with a view to having a lamp placed there.
Folkestone Up To Date 11 February 1899
Inquest
An inquest was held last Tuesday afternoon before Mr. Minter, Borough
Coroner, on the body of Charles Murphy, an able seaman, reported to be
formerly of Dover.
Patrick Dennis Newman said: I am an ordinary seaman on board the brig
Cambois (Captain Harrison), registered as of Folkestone. I have no
regular home. I know the deceased, Charles Murphy. He was an able
seaman. Our ship came from Shields with coal about a week ago. I cannot
say precisely the date of her arrival. She lies near the Tram Road. The
deceased was on board during the voyage from Shields. I saw him on board
between six and seven on Sunday evening. He was then in his bunk in the
forecastle house on deck. He afterwards turned out, and went on shore.
You could not call him drunk at the time. I cannot say his exact age. He
must have been 48 or getting near 50. I believe his home was at Dover. I
did not see any more of him until he was picked up between 11 a.m. and 1
p.m. yesterday, during our dinner hour. He was picked up in the harbour.
I was not there at the time. I did not hear him doing anything on Sunday
night. I identify the body as that of my shipmate, Charles Murphy. I
said he belonged to Dover because his mother lives there.
Charles Joseph Venner said: I live at 35, Dover Street, and am a
fisherman. I knew the deceased very well. I saw him on Sunday evening in
the Perseverance public house in Dover Street. I went in at a quarter
past nine, and the last he was seen was at half past nine, when he left.
He was then as sober as I am now, as sober as a judge. That is all I
know about him.
A. Hart, a youth, said: I live at 35a, North Street. I earn my living by
fishing. Yesterday afternoon between 12 a.m. and 1 p.m. I was walking in
the mud in the harbour, close to the Cambois, when I saw a man's legs
sticking out from under the bottom of the brig. The water was just
covering him.
Captain Harrison here stated that it was high tide at six o'clock in the
morning.
Witness, continuing: I then went and told a man what I had seen, and he
came and dragged the body out.
Dennis Murphy said: I do not know anything of this fatality. My brother
was 33 years of age. My mother lives in Union Street, Dover.
Venner, re-called, said: When I saw the deceased in the Perseverance
public house he said nothing about going to have a drink. He did not say
“No, I shan't have any more, because I have got to go and have a drink”.
Dennis Murphy, re-called: I inquired of my brother about the deceased
shortly previous to his death, as I wondered where he had gone, but
could not find out. I thought he had gone on shore. At breakfast time I
asked where he was, as I wondered why he had not turned up to give us a
drink.
Captain Harrison said: The ship was not lying alongside, the object
being to avoid the dues of the dock company. We began to discharge coals
about a week ago on the main road. We discharged bow on, and had a
platform of three boards as a gangway for passage to and from the pier.
I paid Murphy on Saturday night, and did not think much of his absence
on Monday morning, as similar absences are a constant occurrence. There
was no work on Sunday. The body was found under the fore part of the
ship. My opinion is that the deceased had fallen in passing along the
planks to go on board. The deceased must have fallen at low water to the
bottom of the harbour and been killed in the fall, and the ebbing tide
had probably carried the body under the ship.
Dr. Gilbert said: Yesterday morning I saw the body in a stable at the
Fishmarket. The deceased must have been dead six or seven hours. There
were no outward signs of violence. But on the forehead there was an
abrasion, which might have been produced by a fall. I could not make out
whether there was any fracture of the skull. My opinion was that death
took place from concussion of the brain from a fall into the mud. The
deceased's clothes and pockets were covered with mud. He might have died
from concussion of the brain, or from being smothered in the mud.
Captain Harrison, re-called, said: The deceased would have to come on
board across the bridge, or over the railway, if no watchman stopped
him. The watchmen are employed by the South Eastern Company. I have
spoken to a watchman. He knew nothing about the matter; had not heard
any row, or anything of the kind.
Mr. Chadwick, the Town Sergeant, said he also made inquiries, and
discovered that the watchman knew nothing about the fatality.
Captain Harrison: There would be no light from the Royal George to my
vessel. The soberest man might find it dangerous to come on board after
dark. A man has to be very careful in coming on board.
The Coroner, in summing up the evidence, remarked that he did not know
whether there was much reliable information to be gained from the
evidence of the first witness. The other witnesses failed to throw much
light upon the exact manner in which the deceased had met his death, but
it appeared probable that he had had a fall in endeavouring to get on
board. The testimony of Dr. Gilbert was to that effect, that the
deceased had probably been drowned, or smothered in the mud of the
harbour.
The jury returned a verdict of “Accidental Death”, though there was no
evidence to show the exact nature of the circumstances. Probably the
deceased was either drowned or smothered in the mud. At the same time
they thought that a representation should be made to the South Eastern
as to the dangerous state of the approaches to a vessel lying in the
position of the Cambois at the time of the fatality.
The Coroner said he thought it was probable that if representations were
made to the South Eastern Railway Company, a lamp would be placed in the
more dangerous part of the approach to vessels in the harbour. But he
would point out that, in dealing with seafaring men, it was sometimes
impossible to prevent accidents. That morning, as he passed the harbour,
there were six or seven colliers discharging. To a landsman the practice
of men running up and down planks with coals on their head seemed very
dangerous, but to those personally engaged it was a matter of everyday
life, and they would take no more notice of it than he would of going
about the streets. Still it was dangerous. However, he would be glad to
comply with the wish of the members of the jury, if they really thought
that representations to the South Eastern Railway Company were
necessary.
Folkestone Chronicle 11 March 1899
Local News
Yesterday (Friday) at the Folkestone Borough Police Court, Messrs.
Fitness, Pursey, Wightwick, and Herbert had before them two cases, which
brought to the Court a large number of the public.
The second case was one in which a young Scotchman, David Thompson, was
charged with being found on the premises, 18, Dover Street, early on
Friday morning, with unlawful intent.
John Riddall, landlord of the Perseverance Inn, 18, Dover Street, said
at 20 past one he was awakened by the police, who told him there was a
man in the house. He went down and found the prisoner in the back
kitchen in charge of the police. He found that the man had climbed over
a wall at the back of the house. His house was peculiarly situated.
There was no back way to it, as the back was at the side of the cliff.
It was a remarkable old house, in that it was quite accurate to say of
it “you had to go upstairs to get downstairs and had to go downstairs to
go upstairs”. The kitchen was upstairs and had no window to it. To
enable air and light to enter the doorway was left with a space at the
top. Prisoner had gone up a flight of steps at the side of the cliff,
climbed over a urinal, and afterwards over the doorway into the kitchen.
P.C. George Johnson said at 12.50 a.m. he heard a noise in the back part
of Mr. Riddall's house, so he climbed up the steps and over the two
doors and into the kitchen, and there found the prisoner lying on the
table pretending to be asleep. Prisoner, when asked what he was there
for, said “I'm here having a doss”. He called up the landlord, who said
he didn't know the man. At the police station prisoner was searched and
found to have on him 9½d. in coppers, a chunk of bread, and two tins,
one containing tea, and another sugar.
P.C. Sharp said he heard a noise, and saw a light of someone striking a
match, and found prisoner climbing over the doors at the back of the
Perseverance. He went in search of P.C. Johnson, with whom he entered
the place.
Prisoner said he had come to the town to find work, and had a job to
start on. He thought he was entering a urinal. He was seeking a rest, as
the police had failed to get him a doss-house when he asked them. He
wanted a place to sleep, and had no felonious intent. He really didn't
know he was anywhere but in an outhouse.
Sentenced to seven days' hard labour.
Folkestone Herald 11 March 1899
Folkestone Police Court
Yesterday (Friday) David Thompson was charged with having been found in
a dwelling house, Dover Street, being there for an unlawful purpose.
The landlord of the Perseverance Inn, Dover Street, deposed that about
five minutes past one o'clock that morning he heard the bell ring, and
he was told there was a man in the house. He went downstairs and found
the defendant in the back kitchen in the charge of the police. The house
was built in the side of the cliff, and the first floor was level with
the ground at the back. Leading into the convenience was a door, six
foot high, which was bolted. There was another door and a wall, also six
feet high. It was left in that manner to give ventilation. The wall did
not go up to the ceiling. The defendant must have climber over. He saw
the defendant the previous evening in the bar, and watched him leave.
P.C. George W. Johnson deposed that about 12.50 a.m. that morning, in
company with another constable, he went to the back of 18, Dover Street,
The Perseverance. He climbed over two doors about six feet high, and saw
the kitchen door open. P.C. Sharp had heard a noise up there previously.
On looking in witness saw the defendant laying on a table. Witness
caught hold of him and asked what he was doing there. He said “I come in
here for a doss”. He could not have been asleep. There was some noise in
getting over the doors. Witness brought defendant to the police station,
and found 9½ d. in money on him, some bread, and two tins. He had seen
the man about 12 o'clock. The defendant had been drinking.
P.C. Sharp deposed that at 12.50 that morning he heard a noise at the
rear of the Perseverance, as though someone was getting over the door.
He saw a light at the back of the premises. He communicated with P.C.
Johnson, who got over the doors. Defendant was found in the back
kitchen, and the landlord was called. The man appeared to be asleep on
the table.
Defendant said he had struck one match and could not see whether it was
a closet or not. He had wanted the police to find him a lodging. He was
very sorry he did anything wrong. He thought it was the only place where
he could get until morning.
Seven days' hard labour.
Folkestone Up To Date 11 March 1899
Friday, March 10th: Before J. Fitness Esq., Col. Hamilton, and W.G.
Herbert, W. Wightwick, and C.J. Pursey Esqs.
David Thompson was charged with being on licensed premises for an
unlawful purpose.
The landlord of the Perseverance beerhouse said: Early this morning I
was awoke by the police. On looking out of the window, I was informed
that a man had got into the house. I went downstairs, and found the
prisoner in the kitchen, in charge of the police.
Police Constable Johnson (26) deposed to finding the prisoner inside the
prosecutor's house asleep. He woke him and asked him what he was doing
there, and his reply was “I came in for a doss”. I brought him to the
police station. I found 9½d. in money, and some bread on him. He was not
drunk, but had evidently been drinking.
Police Constable (24) said that hearing a noise at the back of the
premises, he went to see what was the matter. He saw a light. He then
communicated with Police Constable Johnson, and went inside the back
premises, where he found the prisoner.
The prisoner was sentenced to 14 days' hard labour.
Folkestone Express 11 May 1901
Tuesday, May 7th: Before W. Wightwick, C.J. Pursey, W.G. Herbert, W.
Salter, and G.I Swoffer Esqs., and Lieut. Col. Hamilton.
Edwin Morgan was granted a transfer of the Perseverance Inn, Dover
Street.
Folkestone Herald 11 May 1901
Tuesday, May 4th: Before Messrs. Wightwick, Swoffer, Pursey Herbert and
Salter, and Lieut. Col. Hamilton.
The licence of the Perseverance Inn, Dover Street, was transferred to
Edwin Morgan.
Folkestone Chronicle 15 June 1901
Wednesday, June 12th: Before Messrs. Hoad, Pursey, Wightwick, and
Pledge, and Lieut. Col. Westropp.
The following licensing transfer was granted: Mr. Henry William Morgan
takes over the Perseverance from Mr. Riddell
Folkestone Express 15 June 1901
Wednesday, June 12th: Before J. Hoad, J. Pledge, C.J. Pursey, and W.
Wightwick Esqs., and Lieut. Col. W.K. Westropp.
Henry Wm. Morgan was granted a transfer of the licence of the Railway
Tap (sic) from Mr. Riddall, and same alterations to the interior were
approved by the Bench. Mr. F. Hall represented the applicant.
Folkestone Express 30 January 1904
Wednesday, January 27th: Before Alderman Vaughan, and Lieut. Cols.
Fynmore and Westropp.
William Spearpoint, a fisherman, was summoned for being found drunk on
licensed premises. Defendant denied the charge.
P.C. Johnson said: At 7.15 p.m. on January 19th I was on duty in Dover
Street, and saw the defendant staggering up the road. He was in a
drunken condition, and entered the Perseverance Inn. I followed him and
heard the landlady ask him to leave the premises. He remained inside
several minutes, and then I entered and told him I should report him for
being drunk on licensed premises. Defendant replied “Don't lock me up
this time”. I saw the defendant ejected from several public houses
previously.
Defendant said he was very sorry for what had happened. He was a
teetotaller for four months previous to this, and had since signed the
pledge.
Supt. Reeve proved 14 previous convictions.
A fine of 10s. and 9s. costs was inflicted.
Folkestone Herald 30 January 1904
Wednesday, January 27th: Before Alderman T.J. Vaughan, Lieut. Colonel
Westropp and Lieut. Colonel Fynmore.
William Spearpoint, for being drunk at the Perseverance Inn, Dover
Street, was fined 10s. and 9s. costs.
P.C. Johnson gave evidence.
Folkestone Express 14 May 1904
Monday, May 9th: Before Alderman Vaughan, Lieutenant Colonel Westropp,
Lieutenant Colonel Fynmore, W.C. Carpenter, and J. Stainer Esqs.
Edward Parker and John Byrne, both belonging to the Royal Garrison
Artillery, stationed at Dover, were charged with being drunk and
disorderly in Dover Street the previous night.
P.C. Minter said about nine o'clock the previous night he was on duty in
Dover Street, outside the Perseverance Inn. He heard Byrne demanding
drink, but the landlord refused to serve him, and ordered him to leave.
He, however, refused. Witness went inside and requested him to leave. He
had to obtain assistance to get him outside, where he became so violent
that he had to be taken to the police station. On the way Parker came up
in a drunken condition and tried to release the other prisoner. With the
assistance of P.C.s Kettle and Johnson Parker was taken to the police
station.
Prisoners had nothing to say, both stating that they did not remember
anything about it.
Fined 2s. 6d. and 4s. 6d. costs, or seven days' hard labour in default.
Folkestone Chronicle 11 February 1905
Licensing Sessions
Wednesday, February 8th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Lieut. Colonel Westropp,
Lieut. Colonel Fynmore, and Mr. W.C. Carpenter.
There was the usual animated scene as the names of licensees were called
out in alphabetical order, and the usual theatrical ring of the burly
constables shouting “Get your money ready, please”.
The Chairman opened the Sessions by briefly saying “I will ask the Chief
Constable to read his annual report”.
Chief Constable Reeve then read the following:- Chief Constable's
Office, Folkestone, Feb. 8th, 1905. To the Chairman and Members of the
Licensing Committee. Gentlemen, I have the honour to report that there
are at present within your jurisdiction 139 places licensed for the sale
of intoxicating liquore, viz., full licences 87, beer (on) 11, beer
(off) 6, beer and spirit dealers 16, grocers 12, chemists 4,
confectioners 3. This gives an average (according to the Census of 1901)
of one licence to 220 persons, or one on licence to every 313 persons.
Eighteen of the licences were transferred during the year, viz., 12 full
licences, 3 beer on, and three spirit dealers. One full licence was
transferred twice during the year.
The orders which were made at the last licensing meeting to close the
back entrances to various licensed houses, and to make certain
alterations to others, were complied with by the licensees.
Proceedings were taken by the police against three of those licence
holders during the year, one for harbouring prostitutes, and two others
for permitting drunkenness. The former only was convicted. He has since
transferred his licence and left the house.
Two other licence holders were proceeded against by the Inland Revenue
Authorities (six informations were laid against one defendant, and three
against the other), and in each case a conviction followed, the
defendants being fined 20s. and costs upon each summons.
For selling drink without a licence 8 persons were proceeded against by
the Inland Revenue Authorities, and two by the police, in each case a
conviction being recorded.
For drunkenness, 171 persons (143 males and 28 females) were proceeded
against, 156 convicted, and 15 discharged. This is an increase of 17
persons proceeded against as compared with the previous year. One person
was convicted of refusing to quit licensed premises when requested.
Six occasional licences and extension of hours on 42 occasions were
granted to licence holders during the year.
There are 16 places licensed for music and dancing, and three for public
billiard playing.
Eleven clubs where intoxicating liquors are sold are registered in
accordance with the Licensing Act, 1902.
The general conduct of the licensed houses being in my opinion at
present satisfactory, I have no objection to offer to the renewal of any
of the present licences on the ground of misconduct.
I beg to point out that within the area formed by a line drawn from the
Harbour through South Street, High Street, Rendezvous Street, Dover Road
to the Raglan Hotel, thence over Radnor Bridge to the sea, there is a
population approximately of 5,090, with 45 “on” licensed houses, giving
a proportion of one licensed house to every 113 inhabitants. I would ask
the Bench to exercise the powers given them by the Licensing Act, 1904,
and refer the renewal of some of the licensed houses in this area to the
County Licensing Committee for consideration, and payment of
compensation should any of the renewals be refused.
The houses situate in this congested area which in my opinion should be
first dealt with under the provisions of the Act are the following,
viz.:- Victoria Inn, South Street, Duke Of Edinburgh, Tontine Street,
Cinque Ports, Seagate Street, Providence Inn, Beach Street, Star Inn,
Radnor Street, Perseverance Inn, Dover Street.
I would respectfully suggest that the consideration of the renewal of
the licences of these houses be deferred until the Adjourned Licensing
Meeting.
I am, gentlemen, your obedient servant. H. Reeve, Chief Constable.
The Chairman: The report just read by the Chief Constable is very
satisfactory as to the general conduct of the houses, but we are sorry
to see an increase of 17in the number of charges for drunkenness, and we
hope that the licence holders will assist the police by doing all in
theor power to prevent drunkenness, and a decrease in charges during the
coming year. As a Licensing Bench we cannot close our eyes to the fact,
as shown by Chief Constable Reeve's report that there are a very large
number of licensed houses in one certain area, and as the legislature
have taken steps to compensate licence holders for the loss of their
licences, we have decided to adjourn the granting of the six licences
mentioned in the Chief Constable's report, viz., The Victoria, Duke Of
Edinburgh, Cinque Ports, Providence, Star and Perseverance. In the
meantime notice of objection to the licences will be served, and the
recommendations of the Justices will be considered by the Court of
County Quarter Sessions (Canterbury), and if one or the whole of these
houses are closed the owners will be compensated.
Folkestone Express 11 February 1905
Annual Licensing Sessions
Wednesday, February 8th: Before E.T. Ward Esq., Colonel Hamilton,
Colonel Fynmore, W.G. Herbert Esq., and W.C. Carpenter Esq.
The Chief Constable's report was read (see Chronicle for full report).
The Chairman said the report was of a most satisfactory nature. The
Magistrates were pleased to fine there were no complaints against any of
the houses. It was, however, an unfortunate thing that there was an
increase in drunkenness during the year, and they hoped that the licence
holders would, in the coming year, be still more careful in trying to
help the Bench and the police as much as possible in keeping down
drunkenness, so that next year they might have a better report from the
Chief Constable. With regard to the houses the Chief Constable referred
to in what he called the congested area, there was no question that
there were too many public houses there. By the new Act they were
empowered to report to the County Quarter Sessions those houses which
they thought were not required in the borough. They would therefore
direct the Chief Constable to serve notices of objection against those
six houses – the Victoria Inn, the Duke of Edinburgh, the Cinque Ports,
the Providence Inn, the Star, and the Perseverance – so that they might
report to the Quarter Sessions that those houses were unnecessary in the
borough. Of course, if the Quarter Sessions upheld their decision with
regard to those houses, or any one of them, then the owner would be
compensated. If the Chief Constable would kindly serve the notices, the
licences would be dealt with at the next Sessions.
The adjourned meeting was fixed for Monday, March 6th.
Folkestone Herald 11 February 1905
Annual Licensing Sessions
Wednesday, February 8th: Before Mr. J. Pledge, Lieut. Colonel Hamilton,
Alderman W.G. Herbert, Councillor R.J. Fynmore, and Mr. W.C. Carpenter.
The Chief Constable read his report (see Folkestone Chronicle for
details).
The Chairman said that the report of the Chief Constable was very
satisfactory, and the Licensing Bench were very pleased to find that
there was no complaint against any licence holders. There was an
unsatisfactory matter in connection with the report, and that was the
increase in drunken persons during the year, but the Bench hoped that
the licence holders would be more careful, and so try to help the Bench
in the matter of keeping down drunkenness, so as to have a better report
from the Chief Constable next year. With regard to those houses which
had been reported upon, there was no question about it that in the
congested district there was a large number of houses, viz., one to
every 113 persons. By the new Act, the Bench were empowered to report to
the County Quarter Sessions those houses which they thought were not
required in the borough, and they would therefore direct the Chief
Constable to serve notices of objection before the adjourned meeting
against those six houses. The Bench would then report to the Quarter
Sessions that, in their opinion, those houses were unnecessary in the
borough. If Quarter Sessions upheld the decision of the Bench in regard
to one or all of those houses, those houses would be compensated.
Folkestone Daily News 6 March 1905
Adjourned Licensing Sessions
Monday, March 6th: Before Messrs. Ward, Pursey, Fynmore, Hamilton, and
Carpenter.
The Perseverance
This is a beerhouse in Dover Street. Similar evidence was given as in
the previous cases. There was no complaint against the house.
Mr. Avery, K.C., addressed the Bench at great length. He objected to the
area, and said it was always possible to find clusters of houses in any
neighbourhood, and the smaller circle you drew round them, it increased
the number, while if you drew a larger circle it lessened the number in
proportion. He went into the question at great length, and pointed out
that he could not understand why the Perseverance in Dover Street should
be selected, because the police had said that it was a well-conducted
house, with no complaints against it, while the Welcome had been
convicted last year for harbouring prostitutes, and this year for
permitting drunkenness, besides which there were two previous
convictions against it.
The Magistrates, however, decided to refer all the cases to Canterbury,
granting a provisional licence in the meantime.
Folkestone Chronicle 11 March 1905
Adjourned Licensing Sessions
Monday, March 6th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Lieut. Colonel Hamilton, Lieut.
Colonel Fynmore, W.C. Carpenter, C.J. Pursey, and W.G. Herbert Esqs.
Six licences were objected to by the Chief Constable, acting under the
instructions of the licensing authority. These were: The Victoria Inn,
South Street, tenant Mr. Alfred Skinner; Mr. Minter representing the
brewers, Messrs. Mackeson and Co.
The Cinque Ports Arms, tenant Samuel Robert Webster; Mr. W.R. Mowll for
the brewers, Messrs. Leney and Co.
The Duke of Edinburgh, Mr. Ralph tenant; The Perseverance, tenant Robert
Henry Tracey, and The Providence. The brewers, Messrs. Flint and Co.,
were in these three cases represented by Mr. Horace Avory, K.C.,
instructed by Messrs. Nicholson and Graham.
The Star, Radnor Street; In this, the last of the six houses objected
to, Mr. Haines appeared for the brewers and the tenant.
In all six cases both brewers and tenants objected to their licences
being taken away simply on the grounds of redundancy.
Mr. Avory's objections were practically the same as those which has been
urged throughout the Kentish district, and were on all fours with the
advocates' objections who represented the other houses.
Chief Constable Reeve did not in any single case object on the ground of
misconduct on the part of the licensee, but purely on the grounds of
redundancy.
Mr. Avory K.C. submitted that the congested area in which the six
licences objected to was an unfair one. If the boundary on the map were
extended a mile, then it would be found that the houses were spread over
and serving a large population. It was not a suffcicient ground to take
away a man's licence on the grounds of redundancy without comparing the
threatened house with other houses. He seriously submitted that it was
worthy of the Magistrates' consideration as to whether any practical
result could follow a reference to Quarter Sessions of these cases. So
many licences in Kent had already been referred to Quarter Sessions that
he doubted whether sufficient funds would be available for compensation
purposes. The result would be a deadlock when these cases came to be
considered; the Quarter Sessions would either be obliged to hold their
hands, or there would be a gross injustice by the reduction of
compensation below the proper amount.
After a long hearing the whole of the six licences were sent back to
Quarter Sessions for reference.
Folkestone Express 11 March 1905
Adjourned Licensing Sessions
Monday, March 6th: Before E.T. Ward Esq., Lieut. Col. Fynmore, Lieut.
Col. Hamilton, W.G. Herbert, W.C. Carpenter, and C.J. Pursey Esqs.
The objection against the renewal of the licence of the Perseverance Inn
to Mr. Robert Henry Tracey was next considered.
The Chief Constable said the house was an ante 1869 beer-house situate
in Dover Street. The present tenant obtained a transfer of the licence
on December 7th of last year. Messrs. Flint and Co. were the registered
owners, and the rateable value was £27. Within a radius of 100 yards
there were 17 other “on” licensed houses, within 150 yards there were
29, and within 200 yards there were 39. The accommodation for the public
consisted of two compartments, or small bars, and a tap room. In 1902
plans were called for by the licensing justices, but no order for
structural alterations was made. In his opinion the house was
unnecessary for the requirements of the neighbourhood.
Cross-examined, witness said the Welcome, a fully licensed house, was
only a very short distance away. Since February 8th, when the licence of
the Welcome was renewed, there was a conviction for permitting
drunkenness against that house. There were altogether four convictions
against it.
Det. Sergt. Burniston said he considered the house unnecessary for the
requirements of the neighbourhood. On February 15th the landlord told
him he wished he had not speculated his money in the house, and on March
4th he also told him that he barely took enough money to pay expenses.
Mr. Tracey said he paid £179 altogether to go into the house. In the
summer the house let to a good class of visitors. The amount of beer
consumed depended on the fishing trade; sometimes it was four barrels a
week, and sometimes only two. Since he had taken the house he had found
that a public house was a nuisance and that a publican's life was
intolerable. When he got out he would take no more public houses. He had
been a mounted policeman, a soldier, and a gold prospector.
Mr. Alec Ward, a director of Messrs. Flint and Co., said during the year
ending October, 1902, 341 barrels of beer were sold in the house. In
1903 there were 300, and in 1904, 266, or an average of five barrels a
week.
Mr. Avory contended that the area marked on the map produced an unfair
result. If they extended the boundary a mile further away from the
cluster of houses they would find the houses were serving a large
population of people. He submitted that it was worthy of the
Magistrates' consideration whether any practical result could follow
from a reference of those cases to the Quarter Sessions. He thought that
the funda available for compensation would not be sufficient to meet the
cases which had already been referred to the Quarter Sessions. The
result would be there would be a deadlock when the question came to be
considered. The Quarter Sessions would either be obliged to say they
must hold their hands or they would be obliged to do what would be a
gross injustice – reduce the compensation below what the proper amount
should be.
The Chairman said the Magistrates thought they were bound to refer the
case to the Quarter Sessions.
Folkestone Herald 11 March 1905
Adjourned Licensing Sessions
Monday, March 6th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Alderman W.G. Herbert,
Councillor Fynmore, Lieut. Colonel Hamilton, Mr. W.C. Carpenter, and Mr.
C.J. Pursey.
It will be remembered that at the February Sessions the Bench instructed
the Chief Constable (Mr. H. Reeve) to oppose the renewal of six licences
on the grounds that they were not required for the districts in which
they were situated.
The case of the Perseverance, of which Mr. R.H. Tracey is the landlord,
was next proceeded with. Mr. Avory also appeared for the owners in this
case.
The Chief Constable said that this was an ante 1869 beerhouse. The
present tenant made the fifth that had been in the house for twenty
years. The house was on the right-hand side of Dover Street, opposite
Fenchurch Street, and within 100 yards there were 17 other on-licensed
houses, within 150 29 houses, and within 200 39 houses. At the Licensing
Meeting in 1903 plans were called for, but no structural alterations had
been made. The owners were Messrs. Flint and Co., and the rateable value
was £27. The trade was very small, and the house was not necessary for
the requirements of the neighbourhood.
Cross-examined: Assuming that five barrels per week were sold, he would
call that a small trade. The house was a very short distance from the
Welcome Inn, which was a fully licensed house. That house was not being
opposed, though it had been the subject of a conviction since the last
licensing meeting. There was one other conviction against the Welcome
Inn last year against the owner. In 1879 and 1892 there were
convictions. There was no opposition at present by the police to that
house. There had been no conviction against the Perseverance during the
tenancy of the present or past licensee.
Detective Sergeant Burniston considered the licence unnecessary. On the
15th February witness served the landlord with the notice. The licensee
regretted that he had speculated his money on the house, and later said
that he took only nearly enough to pay expenses.
Cross-examined by Mr. Avory: He would hardly think that the Welcome Inn
was needed.
Mr. Robt. Henry Tracey, the tenant of the house, said that he took
possession in November last, and paid altogether £179 to go into the
house. In the summer the house was let to fairly good class visitors. To
a great extent his beer trade depended on the fishing trade. Since he
had taken the public house he had come to the conclusion that a public
house was a nuisance to everyone. A publican's life was intolerable, and
he would “lay that if he got outside of that he would take care not to
go in another”. He had been a policeman in Bechuanaland, a soldier, and
a prospector.
Cross-examined: Although he had been a gold miner, he had not found the
public house a gold mine.
Mr. Alex Ward, a director of Messrs. Flint and Co., gave statistics as
to the trade done, which showed that it fluctuated; the average of the
last three years was being maintained.
Cross-examined: Messrs. Ash owned seventeen houses in the borough,
whereas witness's firm only had seven.
Mr. Avery contended that the marking of an arbitrary area on a plan as
had been done by the Chief Constable produced an unfair result, for the
reason that in every town one spot could be divided out where there was
a cluster of licensed houses. The Bench should not be guided by any line
drawn upon a map, because in that way they would not give due
consideration to the wants of the people who were outside that district.
The Magistrates were not dealing with theoretical questions, but
questions of practical politics, namely, as to whether any of the houses
should be sent to Quarter Sessions for consideration. He submitted that
it was worthy of consideration whether any practical result would follow
from a reference of those cases to the Quarter Sessions for the county.
He believed, from inquiry, that at the present moment it would be found
that there had been referred to Quarter Sessions a number of houses far
exceeding any possible strain which the compensation funds could be put
to. In other words the compensation funds would not be sufficient for
the number of cases which would require to be met. The result would be
that a total deadlock would be produced at Quarter Sessions. It could
not have been intended by the Legislature that those objections should
be multiplied by an enormous number of houses being referred, all of
which were to have a claim upon the compensation funds, when there were
no funds, or the funds were not sufficient. Quarter Sessions would be
obliged to say “We must hold our hands, for we cannot deal with any of
the questions, or we shall be obliged to reduce the amounts below what
they should be”. Counsel further argued that in the case of Raven v
Southampton Justices it was laid down that it was not sufficient to
produce a map which, when viewed, showed there were too many houses in
any particular neighbourhood, but that there should be some grounds
distinguishing it from other licensed houses in the neighbourhood which
justified the taking away of that licence rather than the licences of
other houses in that street or the adjoining street. He went on to
compare the Perseverance and the Welcome Inn, houses practically
together, where convictions had been recorded against one and not the
other, and yet the Perseverance was opposed while the other was not.
The Bench decided to refer the case to Quarter Sessions.
Southeastern Gazette 14 March 1905
The adjourned licensing sessions for Folkestone were held on Monday,
before E.T. Ward Esq. (in the chair).
Mr. Minter applied for the renewal of the Victoria Inn, South Street, on
behalf of the owners, Messrs. Mackeson and Co., Ltd. The police objected
on the grounds that the house was excessive. In that district there was
one “on” licensed house to every 100 inhabitants. The Bench unanimously
decided to refer the house to the Quarter Sessions, granting the tenant
a provisional license in the meantime.
Mr. Mowll next applied on behalf of the owners, Messrs. Leney and Co.,
for the renewal of the Cinque Port Arms, held by Samuel Robert Webster.
After hearing the evidence, the Bench came to a similar decision.
They also referred the following licenses to Quarter Sessions:—The Duke
of Edinburgh, Messrs. Flint and Co., owners; the Providence Inn., Henry
Green, licensee; the Perseverance Inn, Robert Henry Tracey, licensee;
and the Star, held by Ticknor Else.
Folkestone Daily News 11 May 1905
Local News
We learn that the Compensation Committee at Canterbury appointed by the
Quarter Sessions only intend to deal with 11 cases out of the 15 that
were sent to them. There were six from Folkestone, five from Hythe, and
four from Elham.
The six from Folkestone were The Providence, The Perseverance, The
Cinque Ports, The Victoria, The Edinburgh Castle (sic), The Star.
The Committee have decided that there is no need to interfere with the
Providence. The objection to that has been thrown without asking for
further evidence. The other five will be dealt with shortly.
Folkestone Chronicle 13 May 1905
East Kent Licensing Authority
Lord Harris presided at the preliminary meeting of the East Kent
Licensing Authority, held at the Sessions House, Canterbury, on Friday,
when cases from Ramsgate, Folkestone, Hythe, and Elham were reported.
It was decided that the principal meeting to be held pursuant to the
Licensing Rules, 1904, by the Compensation Authority for the East ent
Area should be fixed to take place at the Sessions House, Longport,
Canterbury, on the 26th May, at 10.15 a.m. At that meeting the Authority
will be prepared to hear, with reference to the renewal of the licences
of the following premises, all those persons to whom, under the
Licensing Act, 1904, they are bound to give an opportunity of being
heard: Victoria Inn, South Street, Folkestone; Star Inn, Radnor Street,
Folkestone; Cinque Ports Arms, Seagate Street, Folkestone; Duke of
Edinburgh, Tontine Street, Folkestone; Perseverance, Dover Street,
Folkestone; Rose and Crown, High Street, Hythe; Old Portland, Market
Square, Hythe; Walmer Castle, Adelaide Gardens, Ramsgate; Kent Inn,
Camden Road, Ramsgate; Bricklayers Arms, King Street, Ramsgate; and
Albert Inn, High Street, Ramsgate.
Folkestone Daily News 26 May 1905
East Kent Licensing Authority
At the Canterbury Quarter Sessions this morning, before Judge Selfe and
the licensing Magistrates, the cases of renewing the licences of the
Duke of Edinburgh in Tontine Street, the Victoria in South Street, the
Star in Radnor Street, the Perseverance in Dover Street, and the Cinque
Ports in Seagate Street came up for hearing.
Mr. Pitman, instructed by Mr. Bradley, appeared for the Folkestone
Justices; Mr. Hohler appeared for the Star; Mr. Bodkin for Messrs. Flint
and Sons and Messrs. Mackeson; Mr. G.W. Haines for the tenant of the
Perseverance; and Mr. Mowll for the Cinque Ports.
Mr. Bodkin raised a point of law as to whether the justices had
investigated the matter before remitting it to Quarter Sessions.
Sir L. Selfe, however, decided against him, and the cases were proceeded
with on their merits.
Mr. H. Reeve, the Chief Constable, recapitulated his evidence given
before the Folkestone Justices. He was severely cross-examined by Mr.
Bodkin and Mr. Hohler, but they failed to shake his evidence.
Mr. Tiddy and Mr. Jones, of Tontine Street, gave evidence in favour of
the Duke of Edinburgh.
The Magistrates retired to consider the matter, and on their return into
court Sir W.L. Selfe announced that they had come to the decision to do
away with the licences of the Star, the Victoria, the Cinque Ports, and
the Duke of Edinburgh.
These houses will be closed as soon as the question of compensation is
settled.
The Perseverance, in Dover Street, was not interfered with at present.
Folkestone Chronicle 27 May 1905
East Kent Licensing Authority
The principal meeting of the Compensation Authority for East Kent was
held at the Sessions House, Canterbury, on Friday, before Judge Sir W.L.
Selfe.
The Folkestone licensed houses under consideration were: Victoria Inn,
South Street, licensee Alfred Skinner; Star and Garter (sic), Radnor
Street, licensee Henry T.T. Else; Cinque Ports Arms, Seagate Street,
licensee Samuel R. Webster; Duke of Edinburgh, Tontine Street, licensee
Frederic Ralph; and the Perseverance, Dover Street, licensee Robert H.
Tracy.
Mr. Bodkin and Mr. Hohler appeared for the brewers, Mr. Pittman for the
Justices of Folkestone, Mr. Haines and Mr. Rutley Mowll for the tenants.
Mr. Pittman having opened the case for the Justices of Folkestone,
formal evidence as to the trade done by the various houses and their
general character was given by Chief Constable H. Reeve and Detective
Sergt. Burniston.
Mr. Bodkin said there was nothing against the five houses except the
statement of two police officers that the trade done in two of them was
small. The Victoria had been held by Mr. Skinner for about six years,
and was used for a particular class of trade. It is used by sailors,
fishermen, and railway men. It had a good steady trade, which had been
fairly maintained for the last few years.
As to the Perseverance, Mr. Tracy went in last November and paid £180
for it. He had done a fairly good trade, and if now the licence would be
taken away the compensation would be very small, and although he had
conducted it with perfect respectability, he would be fined the
difference between £180 and the small quantum of compensation that the
Committee could award. He would ask on what possible basis the Justices
selected the house, when close by was the Welcome, against which a
conviction was obtained this year and one last year?
As to the Duke of Edinburgh, where the tenant, Mr. Ralph, had been 14
years, and had maintained himself and was satisfied, although it was
next door to a fully-licensed house, it attracted a different class of
trade, and was of use to the locality.
Mr. G.L. Mackeson, Managing Director of Mackeson Limited, and Alfred
Skinner, the tenant, gave evidence as to the Victoria,
Eventually a licence was granted in the case of the Perseverance, but
refused in all the other Folkestone cases.
Southeastern Gazette 30 May 1905
East Kent Licensing Committee
The principal meeting of the East Kent Licensing Committee was held at
the Sessions House, Canterbury, on Friday and Saturday. At the first
day’s sitting, Judge Sir W. L. Selfe presided.
There were five applications from Folkestone, viz., in respect of the
Victoria, the Perseverance, the Duke of Edinburgh, the Star, and the
Cinque Port Arms. The licensees were represented by Mr. Bodkin, K.C.,
Mr. Hohler, Mr. Rutley Mowll and Mr. Haines, while Mr. Pitman appeared
for the justices of Folkestone, and Detective Sergt. Bumiston having
given evidence, Mr. Bodkin contended that the fact that compensation was
now to be given did not affect the question, as to whether a license
should be renewed or not, and the onus upon those who came there to
prove that a license should be refused on the ground that it was not
required was just as great as if they were acting last year instead of
in the present year, and he thought it was necessary to bear this in
mind because one heard in various quarters views expressed that now
compensation was payable, these licensing cases might be got through in
as short, and, if he might say so, as perfunctory a way as possible,
without any enquiry of any sort, or careful attention given to the
interests involved. Mr. Bodkin further argued that the primary duty of
the Licensing Justices was that laid down in the Farnham case, viz.,
that they should personally select the houses which they deemed were not
required, instead of leaving such selection to the discretion of the
Chief Constable.
All the licenses were refused, with the exception of that of the
Perseverance.
Folkestone Express 3 June 1905
East Kent Licensing
The Special Committee of Licensing Justices of East Kent considered on
Friday, at the Canterbury Sessions Hall, five Folkestone licences which
had been referred to them under the Licensing Act of 1904. The Chairman
was Sir William Lucius Selfe. Mr. Pitman, barrister, appeared for the
licensing justices, and Mr. H.C. Bodkin, barrister, for the owners of
the Victoria (Messrs. Mackeson and Co.), the Perseverance and the Duke
of Edinburgh (Messrs. Flint and Co.); Mr. Hohler for the owners of the
Star (Messrs. Ash and Co.); Mr. G.W. Haines for the tenant of the
Perseverance, and Mr. R. Mowll (Dover) for the owners of the Cinque
Ports Arms (Messrs. Leney and Co.).
Mr. Pitman said that in 1903 the licensing justices announced their
intention of exercising the power which they then had of reducing the
number of licensed houses in the area of Folkestone, and especially in
the neighbourhood of the Harbour district. In the beginning of 1904, in
the King's Speech, there was mentioned a prospect of the present
Licensing Act coming into force, and the justices determined therefore
to hold their hand, and nothing was done in 1904. At the annual meeting
that year, the Chief Constable gave notice that he intended to oppose
the renewal of the five licensed houses which had been mentioned, and
one other, the Providence. At the adjourned meeting the Chief Constable
and the detective who assisted him in the enquiries made gave evidence,
in which they stated that the area which the Chief Constable had marked
off was a congested area, there being 915 houses for a population of
4,580. There were 46 on-licensed houses and 6 off-licensed houses, so
there was rather more than one licence to every 100 of the population.
He did not think that there could be any doubt that in such
circumstances some reduction was necessary. The renewal authority
recommended that the renewal of the six houses mentioned should be
considered, but at a preliminary meeting it was decided that the
Providence should not be proceeded against. He might mention that the
Chief Constable, in selecting those houses for his opposition, was
guided by the fact that they were the houses doing the least trade, and
that he had selected in each case one out of a cluster of houses, and
that which appeared the worst of each cluster.
Mr. H. Reeve, the Chief Constable, was the first witness, and he
repeated his evidence given before the local licensing justices. As to
the Perseverance, the tenant went in last year, having paid about £180
to go in. He could not say for certain what the trade was, and he had no
complaint as to the conduct of the premises. No objection had been given
to the renewal of the Welcome. He would not consider the Welcome, during
the past few months, was a well-conducted house, and there had been two
convictions against it in twelve months, though the tenants in each case
were different people. The last conviction was since the licensing day.
The present landlord of the Perseverance was a very respectable man.
Det. Sergt. Burniston also gave similar evidence to that given before
the licensing justices.
Mr. Bodkin said he submitted under that particular jurisdiction
precisely the same duty fell upon that tribunal as was upon the Court of
Quarter Sessions in deciding whether or not the licences should be
renewed. He submitted there must be as careful and as exhaustive an
enquiry as to each house as there had been under the Licensing Act of
1868. Therefore it was necessary to say what the law was with regard to
those cases, and whether there had been any difference of distinction
made between the procedure under that Act to what there was under the
earlier legislation. The chief case upon which one must rely as
interpreting the duties of the Quarter Sessions was the well-known
Farnham case. In that case there was a statement made by the Master of
the Rolls which really gave the key to the whole position. The justices
in that case formed themselves into a committee, or rather appointed a
committee, and after an exhaustive enquiry made personally by
themselves, they declined to select from the houses generally within
their area any particular house which they might oppose prima facie
before going round on their tour of inspection and trying to find out
what was unnecessary for the requirements of the locality. What they did
was described as the only possible and fair way of dealing with the
question, which was just as difficult as it ever had been. Instead of
giving a notice of objection to individual houses selected out of court,
they gave notice of objection to every single house in the division. The
Master of the Rolls then said that the justices were of the opinion that
the only fair and satisfactory way of dealing with the question was to
cause objections to be served on all the owners of licensed houses, so
that the cases of all might be formally inquired into. That course gave
the justices an opportunity of weighing the merits and acting judicially
in the matter of which public houses should remain and which licences
should be taken. That was the one course which might be taken, and it
was a most authoritative statement. It was the statement which was made,
and it seemed to him (the Master of the Rolls) the reasonable and proper
course. That was a procedure which was described as a fair, reasonable,
and satisfactory procedure. It was not adopted in that case; far from
it. The procedure apparently had been to adopt the view of the Chief
Constable, and to instruct him to serve notice of objection solely on
houses which he had selected without giving any opportunity to the
occupiers of such houses to show by way of comparison of their trade,
accommodation, situation, state of repair, or matters of that kind, how
discrimination should be made by the justices as to the houses to be
retained and which ought to be referred to the Quarter Sessions. In not
doing so, he submitted that the Folkestone Justices had not followed the
proper legal course. They might have given just as easily instructions
to the Chief Constable to serve notices on all the houses in the
selected area. How was a Quarter Sessions sitting 20 or 100 miles away
from a town to differentiate between those and other houses in a
selected area? Before any decision was come to, it was essential that
there should be an enquiry into the needs of the neighbourhood and the
pros and cons of the other houses by the justices below.
The Chairman: I should certainly say that the course had been sanctioned
by the King's Bench Division in the case The King v Tolhurst.
After further argument by Mr. Bodkin, the Chairman said it was suggested
that the course in the Farnham way was a proper way, but not the only
way. He ruled Mr. Bodkin's contention out, so far as he was concerned.
The justices below had made a prima facie case out against the houses,
and it was for them to answer the case.
Mr. Bodkin asked if the Committee would state a case upon that point.
The Chairman said they could not stay their hands on the possibility of
an appeal.
Mr. Bodkin then addressed the Committee on behalf of the Perseverance,
the Victoria, and the Duke of Edinburgh.
The Perseverance
Robert Henry Tracey next gave evidence with regard to the Perseverance.
He said he had been a tenant of the house since November last. He paid
£28 a year rent. He had been a prospector and a gold miner. He had been
in the Mashonaland Mounted Police and the Cape Police during the war. He
paid £179 to go into the house. That sum included fixtures and some
furniture and stock. The trade was greatly improving every week, and it
had gone up from two barrels to rather more than four barrels a week. He
was now satisfied with the trade. He had made a living in the worst time
of the year, and he was certain he would in the best time.
In reply to Mr. Haines, witness said his savings of ten years in South
Africa had been put in the house.
Mr. Alexander Ward, a director of Messrs. Flint and Co., said the house
was the freehold property of his company. The trade had been thoroughly
good ever since he had known the house. It averaged eight barrels a week
including bottled ales for the last four years.
The Chairman said he thought the witness had made a mistake with regard
to barrelage, and witness, after working the figures out again, said he
made the barrelage about six every week.
The Committee retired, and on their return the Chairman said he still
held that the procedure of the justices below was in accordance with the
law. The Committee had considered each case separately without regard to
any of the other cases which had been heard, and they decided to refuse
the renewal of the licences except that of the Perseverance, which they
would renew.
Folkestone Herald 27 May 1905
East Kent Licensing Authority
Yesterday the Special Committee of Licensing Justices of East Kent, to
whom the local authorities had referred the licences of five Folkestone
houses, under the licensing Act of 1904, sat at the Canterbury Sessions
Hall, and considered the reports which had been presented to them, as
well as the reasons advanced in favour and against the renewal of the
respective licences. Sir William Lucius Selfe was the Chairman of the
Committee.
The houses in question were the Victoria, South Street, the Perseverance
Inn, Dover Street, the Star Inn, Radnor Street, the Duke of Edinburgh,
Tontine Street, and the Cinque Port Arms, Seagate Street.
Mr. Pitkin, barrister, appeared for the Licensing Justices, Mr. H.C.
Bodkin, barrister, for the owners of the Victoria, the Perseverance, and
the Duke of Edinburgh (Messrs. Flint and Co.), Mr. Hohler was for the
owners of the Star (Messrs. Ash and Co.), Mr. G.W. Haines represented
the tenant of the Perseverance, and Mr. Rutley Mowll (Dover) appeared
for the owners of the Cinque Ports Arms (Messrs. Leney and Co.).
Mr. Pitkin said that at the annual licensing meeting this year the Chief
Constable gave notice that he intended to oppose the renewal of the five
licences named, and one other, that of the Providence. The notices were
served on the people who required notices under the Act, and at the
adjourned meeting the Chief Constable and his Detective Sergeant gave
evidence, while evidence was also called on behalf of the licensees of
the houses. At that meeting it was proved that in the area which the
Chief Constable had marked out on the map, namely, from South Street, up
High Street, down Grace Hill, to the railway arches, and across to the
sea, there were in all 916 houses to a population of 4,580. Of these 46
were on-licensed and 6 were off- licensed. That was one licence to
rather more than every hundred of the population, and if that was so
there could be no doubt that that was a case in which some reduction was
necessary. The renewal authority were unanimous in referring the whole
of the five licences under discussion. At the preliminary meeting it was
decided that the case of the Providence should not be proceeded with.
The Chief Constable would tell them that in selecting those five houses
he was guided by the fact that the houses were those which were doing
the least trade, and that he had selected in each case one out of a
cluster of houses, and that which appeared to be the worst of each
cluster.
Mr. Harry Reeve, the Chief Constable, repeated the figures as to
population, etc. He said in the whole borough there was one on-licence
to every 313 people. During the year 1904 there were 171 cases of
drunkenness in the borough, and 94 of those arose within the specified
area. Dealing with the Perseverance, in Dover Street, witness said that
that was an ante 1869 beerhouse, and the registered owners were Messrs.
Flint and Co., of Canterbury. The present holder of the licence was Robt.
Tracey, who obtained it in December, 1904. In eight years there had been
five tenants. The rateable value was £27 per annum. Within a radius of
100 yards there were 17 on-licensed houses, within 150 yards there 29
houses, and within 200 yards there were 39 houses. There seemed to him
to be very little trade done at the house. He was past he house a few
evenings ago, and saw one of the bars in total darkness, so that it did
not appear that they were doing much trade.
Cross-examined by Mr. Bodkin: It was from the whole of the Licensing
Justices that he received instructions. As to the Perseverance, the
tenant went in last year, having paid about £180 to go in. He could not
say for certain what the trade was, and he had no complaint at all as to
the conduct of the premises. No objection had been given to the renewal
of the Welcome. He would not consider that the Welcome, during the past
few months, was a well-conducted house, and there had been two
convictions against it in twelve months, though the tenants in each case
were different people. The last conviction was since the last Licensing
day. The present landlord of the Perseverance was a very respectable
man.
Cross-examined by Mr. Haines: The last tenant of the Perseverance was a
Mr. Morgan. He had been there for three years, and the previous tenant
to that was a Mr. Riddalls, who had been there four years, as had a
tenant before him. In the season the population greatly increased in
Folkestone.
Detective Sergeant Burniston knew the Perseverance, and there a very
small trade was done, the customers being principally fishermen. Tracey,
the tenant, when he received the notice of objection, said that he
wished he had not speculated his money in the house, and on a later date
he said that he did not take sufficient money to pay the rent.
Cross-examined by Mr. Haines: The tenant Tracey made his statement after
he had been served with a notice.
Mr. Bodkin submitted that there was under that particular provision of
the Act upon which the Committee sat, precisely the same powers as under
the old conditions of appeal to Quarter Sessions. He would submit that
there must be as careful and as exhaustive an enquiry in reference to
the issue to each house as there ever had been under the Licensing Act
of 1838. The chief case upon which one must rely in interpreting the
duties of the Quarter Sessions was the well-known Farnham case, and in
that case a statement was made by the Master of the Rolls, which really
gave the key to the whole of the decisions. The Justices in that case
formed themselves into a Committee, or appointed a Committee, and after
an exhaustive enquiry, made personally by themselves, they declined to
select from the houses generally within their area any particular houses
which they might oppose prima facie before going round and making an
inspection, and so finding out what they considered to be absolutely
unnecessary for the requirements of the locality. What they did was
decided as being the only possible and fair way of dealing with the
question. Instead of giving notice of objection to individual cases
selected out of Court, if he might so express it, they gave notice of
objection to every single house in their area. What the Master of the
Rolls said was “They (the Justices) were of opinion that the only fair
and satisfactory way of dealing with the question was to cause
objections to be served on all the owners of licensed houses, so that
the cases of all of them might be formally inquired into, and for that
purpose authority was given to the Justices' Clerk to object to such
renewals on the general ground that the houses were not required, and
also on the special grounds set out in that notice. That course gave
everyone concerned their opportunity, and the Justices had the
opportunity of weighing the merits and acting judicially in the matter
of which public houses should remain and which licences should be taken.
That is one course that might be taken, and it seems to me the
reasonable and proper course”. That procedure had not been adopted in
that case. It was very far from it. The procedure in this instance
apparently had been to adopt the view of a particular official, the
Chief Constable, and to instruct him to serve notices of objection
solely on the houses which he had selected without giving any
opportunity to the occupiers of such houses to show, by way of
comparison of trade, accommodation, situation, the state of repair, and
matters of that kind, how discrimination by the Justices should be made,
and which should be referred to Quarter Sessions. In doing so, he
submitted the Folkestone Justices had not followed the proper and legal
course. They might have given just as easily instructions to the Chief
Constable to serve notice on all houses in that selected area. How was a
Quarter Sessions, sitting 50 or 100 miles away from a town, to
distinguish between those and other houses in a selected area? A great
many of the compensation authority would be absolutely ignorant of the
locus in quo. Before any legal decision could be given in reference to
any one property, in accordance with the procedure conducted by the
Folkestone Justices, it was essential that there should be an enquiry
into the needs of the neighbourhood. The case of Howard and King in
Parliament was followed by the Raven and Southampton case, in which it
was contended that the procedure adopted in the Farnham case was a
reasonable one so that the course adopted by the Folkestone Justices was
not equivalent.
The Chairman said that he would advise the Committee that the action of
the Committee was sanctioned by an action in the King's Bench Division.
For the purposes of that day they would not act under the decision of
the King v Tolhurst. If the King's Bench had considered that the hearing
in the Tolhurst case carried the case any further than the Raven case,
they would no doubt have followed the decision in the Raven case.
Mr. Hohler said that he had acted for the Justices in that case, and
they said that they had not only acted on the police evidence, but they
had also acted upon their own local knowledge. The Lord Chief Justice,
in his judgement, had referred to that.
The Chairman said the Tolhurst case had decided that the evidence must
be sufficient to justify the Magistrates referring the matter to that
Court.
Mr. Bodkin asked the Committee to state a case on that decision.
The Chairman: No, certainly not.
Mr. Bodkin said that he had no authority to say so, but he had every
reason to believe that that decision was to be appealed against.
The Chairman replied that the Committee could not stay their hands on
the possibility of an appeal to the Court of Appeal.
Mr. Bodkin then addressed the Committee on behalf of his clients, and he
then called his evidences.
The Perseverance
Mr. Robert Henry Tracey, the landlord of the Perseverance, said the
trade was improving every week. From two barrels his trade had come up
to four barrels, as well as a bottled beer and stout trade. He had made
a living in the worst time of the year, and he would like to have a
chance of seeing what i was like. He had told the sergeant that he was
sorry that he had invested in the business. That was when he was served
with the notice of objection. The whole of his savings in South Africa
were invested in the business.
Cross-examined by Mr. Pitkin: In the first week of his tenancy he sold
four barrels, and then it went down to two.
Mr. Alexander Ward, Director of Messrs. Flint and Co., said he regarded
the Perseverance as a house of very considerable value. Treating bottled
beer as barrelage, the average sale of all kinds for the last four years
had been eight barrels a week. The trade was greater in the summer than
the winter. During the whole of the time the house was thoroughly well
conducted. It was a principle of his company to select the best
publicans, and he did not want a better than Mr. Tracey. They had never
had any complaint against the structural alterations of the place.
Witness, in reply to the Chairman, corrected his statement, and said
that the barrelage averaged six and not eight per week.
After retiring to consider their verdict, the Committee, through their
Chairman, announced their decision. Sir William Selfe said that in the
course of Mr. Bodkin's arguments on the question of law, it had been
said that the procedure of the Justices below in referring the licences
for the consideration of that Court was not in accordance with the law.
He (the Chairman) expressed the opinion that it was. The Committee had
considered each case separately, without regard to any of the other
cases that had been heard, and they had decided to refuse the renewal of
all the licences except that of the Perseverance, which they would
renew.
Folkestone Daily News 28 February 1906
Wednesday, February 28th: Before Messrs. E.T. Ward, J. Stainer, G.I.
Swoffer, R.J. Linton, T. Ames, W.G. Herbert, and Lieut. Col. R.J.
Fynmore.
The transfer of the licence of the Perseverance Inn, Dover Street, was
granted from Mr. Terry to Mr. Frederick Ralph. The latter formerly held
the licence of the Duke of Edinburgh, Tontine Street, which licence was
suppressed last year.
The Chief Constable said he hoped the new tenant would conduct the house
as well as the late tenant had done.
Folkestone Chronicle 3 March 1906
Wednesday, Fevruary 28th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Alderman W.G. Herbert,
Lt. Col. Fynmore, Messrs. J. Stainer, G.I. Swoffer, C. Ames, and W.
Linton.
Mr. Ben Twyman, brewer's agent, applied for the temporary transfer of
the licence of the Perseverance, Dover Street, from Mr. Tracey to Fredk.
Ralph, late of the Edinburgh Castle (sic), Tontine Street.
The application was granted.
Chief Constable Reeve said he hoped the house would be as well conducted
by the new tenant as it was under the last.
Folkestone Express 3 March 1906
Wednesday, February 28th: Before E.T. Ward Esq., Lieut. Col. Fynmore,
and T. Ames, W.G. Herbert, J. Stainer, R.J. Linton and G.I. Swoffer
Esqs.
The following licence was temporarily transferred: the Perseverance Inn,
Dover Street, from Mr. Tracey to Mr. F. Ralph (late of the Duke of
Edinburgh, Tontine Street).
Folkestone Herald 3 March 1906
Wednesday, February 28th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Alderman W.G. Herbert,
Councillor R.J. Fynmore, and Messrs. G.I. Swoffer, J. Stainer, R.J.
Linton, and T. Ames.
A special sessions for the transfer of ale house licences was held. The
licence of the Perseverance Inn, Dover Street, was transferred to Mr.
Fredk. Ralph, late of the Duke of Edinburgh, Tontine Street. The Chief
Constable remarked that he hoped this house would be as well conducted
under the new tenant as under the previous one.
Folkestone Daily News 11 April 1906
Wednesday, April 11th: Before Messrs. E.T. Ward, R.J. Linton, and Lieut.
Col. Fynmore.
Mr. Fred Ralph was given the transfer of the licence of the Perseverance
Inn, Dover Street. Mr. R.H. Tracey was the former holder of the licence.
Folkestone Chronicle 14 April 1906
On Wednesday morning, at the Borough Police Court, Mr. E.T. Ward
presiding, the ordinary business was preceded by a special licensing
sessions.
Mr. H. Tracey handed over his licence of the Perseverance, Dover Street,
to Mr. F. Ralph, late of the Edinburgh Castle (sic).
Folkestone Express 14 April 1906
Wednesday, April 11th: Before The Mayor, Alderman Vaughan, Lieut.
Colonel Fynmore, and R.J. Linton Esq.
The following licence was transferred: The Perseverance, from Robert
Henry Tracey to Frederick Ralph.
Folkestone Herald 14 April 1906
Wednesday, April 11th: Before The Mayor, Alderman T.J. Vaughan,
Councillor R.J. Fynmore, Mr. E.T. Ward and Mr. R.J. Linton.
A special session for the transfer of alehouse licences was held.
Application was made and granted as follows: The licence of the
Perseverance to Fredk. Ralph.
Folkestone Daily News 5 February 1907
Annual Licensing Sessions
Tuesday, February 5th: Before Messrs. Ward, Hamilton, Linton, Fynmore,
Herbert, Pursey, and Carpenter. Mr. Stainer, Mr. Wells, and Mr. Boyd,
the two latter being the new Magistrates, occupied seats on the Bench,
but did not adjudicate.
The Chief Constable read his report as to the number of houses and
convictions, which showed a decrease last year. He recommended that the
Bench should still continue to take advantage of the Act and refer some
of the licences to the Compensation Committee at the Canterbury Quarter
Sessions. He then went on to say that although he did not oppose the
renewal of any licences on the ground of misconduct, there had been five
convictions during the last year, and he had had to warn one licence
holder against allowing betting and taking in slips. He also wished to
caution all licence holders that these practices would not be allowed on
any occasion, and after giving this public warning he should take steps
to detect and prosecute for any such offences.
The Chairman, before commencing, stated that the Licensing Bench had
visited a large number of houses, and they had seen in various places
automatic machines, into which people put pennies, and in some instances
got their penny back or a cigar, &c. The having of these machines was
practically permitting gambling, and it had been decided that they were
illegal. Every licence holder must understand that they were to be
immediately removed, otherwise they would be prosecuted for having them.
As regards the automatic musical boxes, gramophones, &c., if licensed
victuallers had them on their premises, they were to be used in such a
way as not to be a nuisance to the neighbourhood, and if complaints were
made they would have to be removed.
The renewal licences for the Black Bull Hotel, the Railway Inn, the
Chequers, Queen's Head, Channel Inn, Alexandra Tavern, Perseverance, and
Railway Hotel at Shorncliffe, were adjourned till the 4th March, some on
account of convictions, and some for the consideration of closing them
under the Licensing Act. The other applications were granted, a full
report of which will appear in our next issue.
Folkestone Express 9 February 1907
Annual Licensing Sessions
Wednesday, February 6th: Before E.T. Ward Esq., W.G. Herbert, R.J.
Linton, C.J. Pursey and W.C. Carpenter Esqs., Lieut. Col. Fynmore, and
Lieut. Col. Hamilton.
The Chief Constable read his report as follows:
Chief Constable's Office, Folkestone, 6th February, 1907.
Gentlemen, I have the honour to report that there are at present within
your jurisdiction 128 places licensed for the sale by retail of
intoxicating liquors, viz.:- Full licences, 80; beer “on”, 9; beer
“off”, 6; beer and spirit dealers, 14; grocers, 12; chemists, 4;
confectioners, 3; total 128. This gives an average, according to the
census of 1901, of one licence to every 239 persons, or one “on” licence
to every 344 persons. This is a reduction of 8 licences as compared with
the return presented to you last year, as the renewal of 3 “off”
licences was not applied for at the last annual licensing meeting, and
at the adjourned licensing meeting the renewal of one full licence was
refused on the ground that the premises had been ill-conducted, and four
other full licences were referred to the Compensation Committee for East
Kent on the ground of redundancy. These four licences were subsequently
refused by the Compensation Committee, and after payment of
compensation, the premises were closed on 31st December last. Since the
last annual licensing meeting 22 of the licences have been transferred,
viz:- Full licences, 15; beer “on”, 5; off licences, 2; total 22. During
the year three occasional licences have been granted by the justices for
the sale of intoxicating liquors on premises not ordinarily licensed for
such sale, and thirty extensions of the ordinary time of closing have
been granted to licence holders when balls, dinners, etc., were being
held on their premises. During the year ended 31st December last, 131
persons (106 males and 25 females) were proceeded against for
drunkenness. 114 were convicted and 17 discharged. This, it is most
satisfactory to find, is a decrease of no less than 52 persons proceeded
against as compared with the preceding year, when 164 were convicted and
19 discharged. Six of the licence holders have been proceeded against,
and five of them convicted, for the following offences: Selling
adulterated whiskey, 1; permitting drunkenness, 1; delivering beer to a
child in unsealed vessels, 2; supplying drink to a constable when on
duty, 1; total, 5. In the latter case notice of appeal against the
conviction has been given by the licensee. Eleven clubs where
intoxicating liquor is sold are registered in accordance with the Act of
1902. There are 16 places licensed for music and dancing, and two for
public billiard playing. I offer no objection to the renewal of any of
the present licences on the ground of misconduct, the houses generally
having been conducted during the past year in a satisfactory manner, but
on one occasion one of the licence holders was cautioned (as the
evidence was insufficient to justify a prosecution) for receiving slips
and money relating to betting, which practice he immediately
discontinued, bit I desire to intimate to all the licence holders that
if in future any such practice is allowed, or any illegal gaming
whatever is permitted on their premises, I shall take such steps as may
be necessary to detect and prosecute the offenders. I beg to submit a
plan showing the situation of all “on” licensed premises within the
congested area, which I have marked on the plan, and would respectfully
suggest that the Committee again avail themselves of the powers given by
the Licensing Act, 1904, and refer the renewal of some of the licences
within this area to the Compensation Committee to deal with under the
Act. Within this area there are 920 houses, with a population
approximately of 4,600, with 37 “on” licensed houses and 8 other
licences, giving a proportion of one licence to every 20 houses or every
102 persons, and one “on” licence to every 24 houses or every 124
persons. This number of licences I consider excessive for the
requirements of the neighbourhood. I have received notices from eight
persons of their intention to apply at these sessions for the following
new licences, viz.,:- Full licence 1; beer off 1; cider and sweets off
1; wine off 3; music, etc., 2; total 8.
I am, Gentlemen, your obedient servant, H. Reeve, Chief Constable.
The Chairman said the report seemed to be highly satisfactory. The
Magistrates were very pleased to see the diminution in the number of
cases of drunkenness brought before the Bench. One point about the
report he wanted to make a remark upon, and that was the prevalence of
gaming in public houses. In several houses the Committee visited they
saw automatic machines, in which customers placed pennies and pulled a
trigger. Occasionally they got something out for their pennies. That was
gaming. It had been decided to be illegal, and they warned all licence
holders that they would be watched, and that the machines would not be
allowed, and proceedings would be taken against the offending publicans,
whose licences would be jeopardised next year. There was one other point
of a similar nature with regard to musical instruments, which were
reported to be a great nuisance. They warned all licence holders to be
careful not to create a nuisance with those pianos and other
instruments, which were now very common indeed in public houses.
The following houses were ordered to be opposed as not required: The
Channel Inn, High Street; the Queen's Head, Beach Street; the Railway
Tavern (sic), Beach Street; the Chequers, Seagate Street; and the
Perseverance, Dover Street.
Adjourned: The Black Bull Hotel, the Alexandra Tavern, the Imperial
Hotel, Black Bull Road, and the Railway Hotel, Coollinge.
Folkestone Herald 9 February 1907
Annual Licensing Sessions
Wednesday, February 6th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Alderman W.G. Herbert,
Lieut. Colonel Hamilton, Major Leggett, Councillor W.C. Carpenter, and
Messrs. R.J. Fynmore, R.J. Linton, and C.J. Pursey
The Chief Constable presented his annual report (for details see
Folkestone Express report).
The Chairman: The report seems to be very satisfactory, and we are very
glad to see the diminution in the number of cases of drunkenness brought
before the Bench. One point about the report I should like to make a
remark upon, and that is about gambling in public houses. In every house
we have visited we saw automatic machines in which you put a penny,
pulled a trigger, and occasionally you get something out, either your
penny back, or a card for a cigar. That is gaming, and it has been
decided as illegal, and we warn all licence holders who have these
machines that they must be removed or otherwise proceedings will be
taken against them for gaming, and their licences may be in jeopardy
next year. There is another thing. In the same way, with regard to these
musical instruments, which have been reported to the Bench as a great
nuisance, we warn all the licence holders to be careful, and not create
nuisances with these machines.
The licences of the Channel, High Street, the Queen's Head, Beach
Street, the Railway Inn, Beach Street, the Chequers, Seagate Street, and
the Perseverance, Dover Street, were not renewed, notice of opposition
being given on the ground of redundancy.
The renewals of the licences of the Black Bull Hotel, Alexandra Tavern,
Imperial, and Railway Hotel were all adjourned till the adjourned
sessions for reasons not given
The Justices fixed the 4th March as the date of the adjourned licensing
meeting.
Folkestone Daily News 4 March 1907
Adjourned Licensing Sessions
Monday, March 4th: Before Messrs. Ward, Fynmore, Linton, Boyd, Herbert,
Pursey, Carpenter, Leggett, and Hamilton.
There were seven licences to be considered: The Black Bull, Railway
Tavern (sic), Railway Hotel, Perseverance, Chequers, Channel Inn, and
Queen's Head.
Perseverance
In the case of the Perseverance, Messrs. Flint's representative, Mr.
Balliscomb, informed the Bench that they should reserve their defence.
Folkestone Express 9 March 1907
Adjourned Licensing Sessions
The adjourned licensing sessions were held on Monday at the Police
Court, when the principal business to be considered was whether or not
the five licences should be referred to the East Kent Licensing
Committee for compensation. The Licensing Justices on the Bench were
E.T. Ward Esq., Lieut. Col. Fynmore, Lieut. Col. Hamilton, W.G. Herbert,
C.J. Pursey, R.J. Linton and W.C. Carpenter Esqs., while other justices
present were Major Leggett, Mr. G. Boyd, and Mr. J. Stainer.
The Chief Constable said the next business was to consider the
opposition to five licences.
The Perseverance Inn, Dover Street, was next dealt with.
Mr. Battiscombe, the manager for the brewers, said they did not intend
to fight the opposition that morning, but they would do so at the East
Kent Licensing Sessions.
The Chief Constable said the licensee was Frederick Ralph, who obtained
the transfer on April 12th, 1906. The registered owners were Messrs.
Flint and Co., Canterbury. The rateable value of the house was £27.
There were three entrances to the house in Dover Street. The
accommodation consisted on one bar divided into two compartments – a tap
room and public bar. The accommodation for the licensee was on the first
floor. The urinal provided for the use of the public was up a flight of
steps by the side of the house. Within a radius of 200 yards of this
house there were thirty one other on licensed houses. The nearest
licensed house was the Bricklayers Arms, in Fenchurch Street. The
rateable value of that was £36, while that of the Perseverance Inn was
only £27. It was an ante-1869 beerhouse. He frequently passed the house,
and it appeared to him that only a small trade was done and it was
unnecessary for the requirements of the neighbourhood.
Det. Sergt. Burniston said he knew the Perseverance Inn very well, and
in his opinion it did a small trade, and was not required for the
immediate neighbourhood.
The Justices decided to refer this house, and then adjourned for lunch.
Folkestone Herald 9 March 1907
Adjourned Licensing Sessions
Monday, March 4th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Alderman W.G. Herbert, Lieut.
Colonel Hamilton, Councillors W.C. Carpenter and G. Boyd, and Messrs.
R.J. Fynmore, C.J. Pursey, R.J. Linton, and J. Stainer.
Perseverance Inn
Mr. Battiscomb (manager of Flint and Co., owners) said that he did not
intend to bring any evidence in favour of the renewal of the licence of
the Perseverance Inn before the Court that day, but would do so at the
East Kent Quarter Sessions.
The Chief Constable described the house as being narrow. The
accommodation for the licensee was on the first floor. Within a radius
of 200 yards there were 31 other licensed houses, the nearest of which
was the Bricklayers Arms, in Fenchurch Street. The rateable value of
that was £36, while that of the Perseverance was £27. This was an
ante-1869 beerhouse, and there appeared to be only a small trade done.
He considered the licence unnecessary.
Detective Sergeant Burniston gave corroborative evidence, after which
the Bench decided to refer the case.
Folkestone Daily News 12 July 1907
Local News
Our readers will remember that at the recent Folkestone Licensing
Sessions the Justices decided to refer the licences of the Channel Inn,
High Street, the Queen's Head, Beach Street, the Railway Inn, Beach
Street, and the Perseverance, Dover Street, to the County Licensing
Authority. At a meeting of this body on Thursday the question came up
for consideration, and eventually it was decided to withdraw the
licences of the Channel Inn, the Perseverance, and the Queen's Head. The
licence of the Railway Inn was renewed. Compensation will, of course, be
granted to the owners and tenants of the closed houses.
Folkestone Express 13 July 1907
Local News
At the Folkestone Licensing Sessions the Justices decided to refer four
licences to the County Licensing Authority with a view to the houses
being closed and compensation given.
The Committee held a meeting on Thursday, and decided to withdraw the
licences from the Channel Inn, High Street; the Queen's Head, Beach
Street; and the Perseverance, Dover Street. The fourth licence, that of
the Railway Inn, Beach Street, was renewed. The owners and tenants of
the others will be compensated.
Folkestone Herald 13 July 1907
Local News
Lord Harris presided at the principal meeting of the East Kent
Compensation Authority at Canterbury on Thursday.
The Committee had referred to them twenty four houses, including four
from Folkestone, viz., the Channel, High Street; the Railway Inn, Beach
Street; the Perseverance, Dover Street; and the Queen's Head, Beach
Street.
The Perseverance
Mr. Matthew was for the Justices, and Mr. Bodkin for the brewers.
Mr. Reeve said this was an ante 1869 beerhouse, with inferior
accommodation, and did a low class trade. It was frequented by hawkers
and fisherfolk.
In reply to Mr. Bodkin, witness said he should be surprised to hear that
the present tenant did about four barrels a week. He did not know Mr.
Ralph (the tenant) was the tenant of another house for fifteen years.
Mr. Bodkin said the two immediate rivals to this house had now
disappeared, and it seemed that this one might well be let alone,
especially as the trade had so greatly improved.
The tenant said he paid £114 12s. to go into the house. He was tenant of
the Duke of Edinburgh until it was taken away by that Committee, and he
then put the valuation money into the present house. When he went there
it was doing about two and a half barrels, and he had increased this to
four a week.
The Committee decided to renew the Railway Inn, but to refuse those of
the Channel, Perseverance, and Queen's Head.
Folkestone Daily News 26 March 1908
Thursday, March 26th: Before Messrs. Banks, Boyd, and Stainer.
Daniel Cox was charged with being drunk and incapable yesterday.
Detective Sergeant Burniston said he saw the defendant at 1.20 yesterday
in Dover Street. He was very drunk, and went down the street; in fact he
had to feel his way down the street by the wall. Witness waited a few
minutes, and saw the defendant go back into the Perseverance Inn. As he
was not ejected, witness and P.C. Simpson went into the bar and saw the
defendant sitting on a form, apparently holding himself up. Witness told
the landlord about it. On the table was a pint glass with beer in it,
but it seemed to have been recently drank from. He was taken into
custody.
P.C. Simpson said at 1.25 p.m. yesterday he accompanied Burniston to the
Perseverance Inn. He saw the prisoner at the table. He was drunk. On
being told to stand up, witness found he was too drunk to take care of
himself. By instructions witness brought him to the police station and
charged him. On the way defendant had to be supported.
Prisoner had nothing to say, and was fined 5s. and 5s. 6d. costs, or
seven days' hard labour.
He asked for time, but was refused.
Folkestone Herald 28 March 1908
Thursday, March 26th: Before Alderman Banks, Councillor G. Boyd, and Mr.
J. Stainer.
Daniel Cox was charged with being drunk. He pleaded Not Guilty.
D.S. Burniston said that at 1.20 p.m. the previous day he saw the
prisoner leave the Perseverance public house, Dover Street. He was so
drunk that he had to support himself by the side of the house. Prisoner
went back into the bar; witness kept observation, and saw he was not
ejected, so he went to Beach Street, where he saw P.C. Simpson. He
accompanied him back to the house, and saw prisoner in the public bar
supporting himself with a table. He told prisoner to stand up, and found
he was too drunk to take care of himself. On the table in front of him
was a pint glass empty of beer, but with considerable froth in it.
Prisoner was then charged and brought to the station.
P.C. Simpson corroborated.
Prisoner had nothing to say.
The Chief Constable said that accused was a hawker. He knew nothing
against him.
Fined 5s. and 4s. 6d. costs, or seven days'.
Folkestone Daily News 1 April 1908
Wednesday, April 1st: Before Messrs. Herbert, Stainer, Linton, and Boyd.
Frederick Ralph was charged with permitting drunkenness on his premises,
viz., the Perseverance Inn, on Thursday, March 25th. Mr. Haines appeared
for defendant.
Detective Sergeant Burniston deposed: I know the landlord. At 1.20 on
the 25th March I was passing the premises, when I saw a man leave the
public bar, whom I knew. His name is Daniel Cox. He was very drunk, and
I watched him, and he walked down the street to some premises which led
to a urinal. He was so drunk that he had to support himself by the side
of the building. He did not go up the steps to the urinal, but committed
a nuisance at the bottom. He then returned to the public bar of the
Perseverance, again supporting himself by the side of the houses. I
waited six or seven minutes and found he was not ejected, so I walked
down Beach Street and saw P.C. Simpson, and together we went back to the
public bar of the house, where I saw Cox seated, he being the only
customer. The defendant was behind the counter. Cox was supporting
himself by the table, on which stood an empty glass, containing froth,
and appeared to have been recently drank from. I said to Mr. Ralph “Have
you served this man with drink?”, and he replied “Yes, I served him with
a pint which was paid for by the deputy of the Radnor Lodging House. Cox
has been here half an hour, and I have been here all the morning”. I
then told Cox to stand up, which he did, after some difficulty, and I
then found that he was drunk and incapable of taking care of himself. I
said to Ralph “You see this man's condition? I shall arrest him for
being drunk on your premises and report you for permitting it”. Cox was
then brought to the police station and charged with being drunk and
incapable. Cox was brought before the Magistrates the following morning.
Mr. Haines: You say you know the defendant? – Yes.
He held a licence for 14 years at the Edinburgh? – Yes.
He has never had a conviction, has he? – Not to my knowledge.
You know the man Cox? – Yes.
Do you know he has been in South Africa? – I don't know.
Do you know he is very queer in the head sometimes? – No, I don't know.
You could have taken him into custody when you saw him outside, couldn't
you? – He didn't fall down.
And so you waited till he got inside? – Yes.
You had a motive for that, I suppose? – Yes.
P.C. Simpson said he accompanied the previous witness to the
Perseverance Inn on the day in question, and saw the man Cox sitting in
the public bar, supporting himself by his hands on the table. The
landlord was behind the counter. Witness heard Burniston ask the
landlord if he had served Cox with any beer, and defendant replied “Yes,
I served him with a pint of beer”. On Cox being told to stand up,
witness could see that he was incapable of taking care of himself, so he
was brought to the police station and charged with being drunk and
incapable.
The Chief Constable: Was there anyone else in the bar at the time? – No.
The defendant then went into the witness box, and in reply to Mr.
Haines, said: I was formerly the landlord of the Duke of Edinburgh for
14 years, but that house has been put back for consideration by the
compensation authorities. I was not in the bar when the man Cox first
came in. Three men came in afterwards, and one of them called for three
pints of beer, one of which he handed to Cox. I did not serve him with
any beer that morning, and did not see him go out, but saw him return.
He did not appear drunk when he came, and I am satisfied he was not. He
walked out with the police unassisted. I have never had a conviction
against me, and if I had thought Cox was drunk I should not have served
him. In my opinion he was sober.
The Chief Constable: Can you tell me the name of the deputy of the
Radnor lodging house? – Morris
What time was Morris in your house? – Just after twelve.
Now, be careful, because I have a statement here from Morris. Was he in
your house that morning? – Yes.
You say Cox was sober? – No, I didn't say he was sober; I said he was
not drunk.
Mr. Bradley: You said he was sober.
The Chief Constable: Would you have served him if he had asked for more
beer? – No.
Why not? – Because I didn't think he wanted any more.
But you say he was sober, so why wouldn't you serve him? – Because he
didn't want any more beer.
Did you protest when Cox was taken into custody? – No.
Did you come to the police station? – No.
Why didn't you if you say Cox was not drunk? – Because I didn't think it
was necessary.
Mr. Haines addressed the Bench on behalf of the defence, pointing out
that it was necessary to prove that a landlord was cognisant of the
state of a man when he was served with liquor. There was a conflict of
evidence, because defendant said he did not agree with Burniston when
asked if he knew the state of the man Cox. Defendant had never had a
conviction against him for 14 years, and he asked the Bench to say that
he did not know the state of the man when he was in the house, and
dismiss the charge.
The Bench came to the conclusion that defendant was perfectly aware of
the condition of the man Cox when he was in the house, and inflicted a
fine of 40s. and 11s. costs.
Folkestone Express 4 April 1908
Wednesday, April 1st: Before W.G. Herbert, J. Stainer, R.J. Linton and
G. Boyd Esqs.
Frederick Ralph, of the Perseverance Inn, Dover Street, was summoned for
permitting drunkenness on his premises on March 25th. Mr. G.W. Haines
appeared for defendant, and pleaded Not Guilty.
Detective Sergeant Burniston said at about twenty past one on 25th March
he was passing defendant's premises, when he saw a man whom he knew
leave the public bar. His name was Daniel Cox. He was very drunk, and
witness watched him. He walked down the street to the entrance which led
to the urinal. He was so drunk that he had to support himself by the
side of the building. He afterwards returned to the bar of the
Perseverance beerhouse. Witness waited some six or seven minutes, and,
seeing he was not ejected, walked into Beach Street, where he met P.C.
Simpson, and they went back to the public house and entered the bar,
where the man Cox was seated. Defendant was behind the bar counter. Cox
was supporting himself by the table at which he was seated. In front of
him stood an empty pint glass, which appeared to have been drunk from,
containing a considerable quantity of froth. Witness asked defendant if
he had served Cox with drink, and he replied “Yes, I served him with a
pint, which was paid for by the deputy of the Radnor lodging house. Cox
has been here half an hour, and I have been here all the morning”.
Witness then told Cox to stand up, which he did with difficulty, and
witness found he was drunk and incapable of taking care of himself.
Witness pointed out to defendant Cox's condition, and said he should
arrest him on his licensed premises and report defendant for permitting
drunkenness. He replied “I agree with you. He is drunk”. Cox was the
brought to the police station by P.C. Simpson and witness, and the
charge was taken by Inspector Swift.
Cross-examined: Witness said defendant had previously been the licensee
of the Duke of Edinburgh, and during the fourteen years he had been
there, there had been no conviction against him to his knowledge.
Defendant had been at the Perseverance about two years.
P.C. Simpson corroborated Detective Sergeant Burniston's statement. Cox
was drunk.
Defendant then went into the witness box. He said he was formerly the
tenant of the Duke of Edinburgh for 14 years. He had been at the
Perseverance for two years, which had been referred for consideration.
During the time Cox was in the bar three men came in, one of them being
the deputy of the Radnor lodging house. He called for three glasses of
beer, and gave Cox one. Prior to serving Cox with drink, in witness's
opinion, Cox was sober. He was not assisted out of the bar by the
police. He walked out. There had been no conviction against him
(witness), and if he thought Cox was drunk he should have ordered him
out.
Cross-examined: Cox was on the premises about half an hour. The other
men remained there about five minutes. Witness did not protest against
the police charging Cox on his premises. He did not say to Burniston
that he agreed with him that Cox was drunk.
Mr. Haines having addressed the Bench, the Chairman said they were
unanimously of the opinion that the case was proved. Defendant was
liable to a fine of £10, but in consideration of the way in which he had
conducted the house, and having held a licence for so long, he would be
fined 40s. and 11s. costs.
Folkestone Herald 4 April 1908
Wednesday, April 1st: Before W.G. Herbert, J. Stainer, R.J. Linton and
G. Boyd Esqs.
Frederick Ralph, landlord of the Perseverance Inn, Dover Street, was
summoned for permitting drunkenness on his licensed premises. Mr. G.W.
Haines appeared for the defendant, who pleaded Not Guilty.
Detective Sergt. Burniston deposed that at 1.20 on Wednesday, 25th
March, he was passing the Perseverance when he saw a man named Daniel
Cox in the public bar. Cox was very drunk, and witness watched him. He
came out and walked down the street to the end of the premises. He was
so drunk that he had to support himself by the side of the building. He
returned to the public bar of the Perseverance still supporting himself
by the wall of the house. Witness waited six or seven minutes, and
seeing that he was not ejected, he walked down to Beach Street. He saw
P.C. Simpson, and they went back to the bar of the public house
together. There he saw the man seated, defendant being behind the
counter. Cox was supporting himself on the table. On the counter was an
empty glass, which appeared to have been recently drunk from, as it
contained a considerable quantity of froth. Witness said to the
defendant “Have you served this man with drink?” He replied “Yes, I
served him with a pint, which was paid for by the deputy of the Radnor
lodging house. Cox has been here half an hour, and I have been here all
the morning”. Witness then told Cox to stand up, which he did after some
difficulty, and witness found then that he was drunk and incapable of
taking care of himself. He said to defendant “You see this man's
condition? I shall arrest him for being drunk and incapable on licensed
premises, and report you for permitting drunkenness”. He replied “I
agree with you; he is drunk”. Cox was then taken to the police station.
Cross-examined by Mr. Haines, witness said he knew the defendant. He
previously had had the licence of the Duke of Edinburgh for about
fourteen years, during which time he had no conviction against him. He
also knew the man Cox. He did not know that he had been to South Africa
and had something peculiar in his walk.
P.C. Simpson corroborated.
Defendant, being sworn, said that he had been formerly the tenant of the
Duke of Edinburgh for fourteen years. He had been in the present house
for two years. His house had been referred back. He knew the man Cox.
When Cox came in witness was in the cellar. When he returned to the bar
Cox was seated by the counter. After he was there three men came in, one
of them being deputy of the Radnor lodging house. He gave Cox a glass of
beer. Cox had no more in the house that morning. Witness did not see him
go out, but he saw him come back and sit down. He had no difficulty in
sitting down. From what witness saw of him prior to serving him with
drink, he thought he was sober. When asked by the police to walk out,
Cox did so without any assistance. During the whole 14 or 15 years
witness held a licence he had not had a conviction. If he had thought
Cox was drunk he would not have served him.
Cross-examined by the Chief Constable, witness said that he was certain
that the deputy of the Radnor lodging house had been there. If Cox had
asked for more drink he would have given it to him. He did not think
that he was drunk.
Mr. Haines, addressing the Bench, said that his client had had a great
deal of worry. His boy had tried to take his life. And either he or his
wife had been up to the hospital every day. On the day in question he
had been down in a cellar, and being busily engaged he did not see Cox
enter the house. He (Mr. Haines) did not suggest that Burniston and
Simpson did not know when a man was drunk; but Burniston himself asked
Cox to stand up, so that he had his doubts as to whether he was drunk or
not. He therefore asked them to give him the benefit of the doubt. He
also alluded to the fact that the defendant's house had been referred,
and would in all probability be closed.
The Bench fined defendant 40s. and 11s. costs.
Folkestone Daily News 11 April 1908
Saturday, April 11th: Before Messrs. Fynmore and Wood.
Leslie Ralph was charged with attempting to commit suicide by cutting
his throat.
William Morgan said he lived in Dover Street, and was a fishmonger. On
the 17th February Mrs. Ralph came to him, and he went with her to the
Perseverance, where he found defendant lying on the staircase and Mr.
Ralph supporting him. Witness helped to carry him to the top of the
stairs. Defendant had a large cut in the throat, and was only partially
dressed. He did not speak. Three constables and a doctor came, and
accused was attended to and taken to the hospital.
P.C. Ashby sais he was called to the Perseverance on the 17th February,
and found the accused in charge of Morgan. Witness found a bloodstained
razor in a back room, and also a letter.
The father said the letter was in his son's handwriting.
The house surgeon at the hospital said the cut had severed the larynx,
and the wound was a very dangerous one. The defendant would have to wear
a tube in his throat. He might be able to whisper, but would never be
able to talk.
The defendant was then committed for trial at the Quarter Sessions.
Folkestone Express 18 April 1908
Saturday, April 11th: Before Lieut. Col. Fynmore and R.G. Wood Esq.
A pitiable sight was presented when a young man named Leslie Ralph was
brought into Court on a charge of attempting to commit suicide by
cutting his throat. He looked terribly ill, and was wearing a bandage
round his throat. He made that peculiar noise in breathing which is
common after tracheotomy has been performed. To make his condition even
more pitiable was the fact that he had a wooden leg.
The Chief Constable mentioned that the doctor had informed him that the
lad would never be able to speak again.
Henry Morgan, of 15a, Dover Street, said he was a fishmonger. The
prisoner lived at home with his parents at the Perseverance Inn,
opposite to his house. On Monday, February 17th, about half past five in
the morning, Mrs. Ralph came to his house, and in consequence he
accompanied her to the Perseverance. She went upstairs, and in the
middle of the narrow staircase he found the prisoner lying on the
stairs. His father was trying to get him up. He assisted his father to
carry him up the stairs, and they placed him on the floor of the
bedroom. He noticed that he had a long cut in his throat, which was
bleeding very much. The defendant was dressed in his trousers and
undervest, which were saturated with blood. He believed the prisoner was
sensible, but he did not speak. He remained there for about a quarter of
an hour, when P.C. Ashby came. Dr. Gilbert came ten minutes later and
bandaged the throat. He was then removed to the Hospital. The prisoner
did not speak during the whole time he was there.
P.C. Ashby said about 5.30 on the morning of February 17th he was called
to the Perseverance public house, where he saw the prisoner. He was
lying on the floor of the bedroom, and on examining him he found an
extensive wound on the throat. Shortly afterwards Dr. Gilbert arrived.
The prisoner had remained at the Victoria Hospital until that day. He
traced the bloodstains from where he found the prisoner to a back room
on the ground floor. On the floor there was a large quantity of blood,
and by the side of it there was the razor produced. The handle of the
razor was tied to the blade, and it was covered with blood. On the table
close by he found the note produced. That morning he charged the
prisoner with attempting suicide by cutting his throat. He made no
reply.
Frederick Ralph, the landlord of the Perseverance, said the prisoner was
his son, who lived at home with him. He was 19 years old last Christmas
day. The razor belonged to another one of his sons. The prisoner was a
tailor by trade. He had not noticed his son being depressed of late; in
fact he had been most cheerful. The note produced was in his
handwriting. It was addressed to his (prisoner's) mother, and in it
prisoner stated that he could not speak, and all he was longing to do
was to get to Ned. In conclusion he wrote “Goodbye to all. Leslie”.
DR. J.R. Kemp, house surgeon at the Hospital, said the prisoner was
brought to that institution by the police. On examining him he found he
was suffering from a deep wound in the throat. It extended right across
and had gone through the larynx. He was in a collapsed condition owing
to loss of blood and was unable to speak. The wound was sewn up, and
Ralph remained under his treatment until that morning. The wound was a
very dangerous one, and might have been inflicted with the razor
produced. A considerable amount of force was necessary to inflict such a
wound. As a result the prisoner would always have to wear a tracheotomy
tube in his throat. He might be able to whisper, but he did not think he
would ever be able to articulate properly again.
When asked if he understood the charge, Ralph nodded his head, and, in
reply to the Clerk, whether he wished to call any witnesses or say
anything, he shook his head in the negative.
The prisoner was eventually committed to take his trial at the Quarter
Sessions, on April 22nd, bail being allowed, his father acting as surety
for him.
Folkestone Herald 18 April 1908
Saturday, April 11th: Before Lieut. Colonel R.J. Fynmore and Councillor
R.G. Wood.
Leslie Ralph, aged 19, a youth with a wooden leg, was charged with
attempting to commit suicide by cutting his throat.
Henry Wm. Morgan, living at 15, Dover Street, said that he was a
fishmonger. Prisoner lived at home with his parents. On Monday, 17th
February, about 5.30 in the morning, Mrs. Ralph came across to his
house, and from what she said witness accompanied her to the
Perseverance. He went upstairs and found prisoner in the middle of the
narrow staircase. He was lying on the stairs. Mr. Ralph was trying to
get him up. Witness assisted his father to carry him to the top of the
stairs. Witness laid him on the floor of the bedroom. He had a large cut
in the throat, which was bleeding very much. He had only got his
trousers and a very thin undervest on. They were saturated with blood.
Witness believed he was sensible, but the lad did not attempt to speak.
Witness stopped with him for another quarter of an hour, when P.C. Ashby
came in. Dr. Gilbert arrived at about ten minutes later, and attended to
him. He bandaged his throat, and accused was then removed to the
Victoria Hospital. Prisoner did not speak during the whole time witness
was there.
P.C. Ashby deposed that at bout 5.30 on the morning of the 17th February
he was called to the Perseverance. He saw defendant there in charge of
the last witness. He was lying on the floor of the bedroom. He had an
extensive wound in the throat. On the floor there was a quantity of
blood, and by the side a bloodstained razor. On the table close by he
found the note (produced). Witness saw him that morning at the police
station, and charged him with attempting to commit suicide by cutting
his throat with a razor. He made no reply.
Frederick Ralph, landlord of the Perseverance Inn, Dover Street, said
the prisoner was his eldest son and lived at home. He was a tailor by
trade. He had always been very cheerful. Witness had not noticed that he
had been depressed. The not produced was in his son's handwriting. In it
the lad said that he was “longing to go to Ned”, and bade “goodbye to
all”. It was signed “Leslie”.
Dr. J.R. Kemp said that defendant was brought by the police to the
Victoria Hospital. He was suffering from a deep wound in the throat,
which extended right across and had gone right through the larynx. He
was in a very exhausted condition through loss of blood, and was unable
to speak. He was put to bed, and the wound was sewn up. He remained
under witness's treatment until that morning. The wound was a very
dangerous one, and might have been inflicted by the razor, but a
considerable amount of force would have been necessary. The result would
be that he would have to wear a tube, and would only be able to whisper;
he would not be able to articulate properly.
Prisoner, who did not make any statement, was committed for trial at the
next Quarter Sessions, to be held on the 22nd April, bail being allowed,
his father becoming surety.
Folkestone Daily News 22 April 1908
Quarter Sessions
Wednesday, April 22nd: Before J. Lewis Coward Esq.
Leslie Ralph was charged with attempting to commit suicide. He pleaded
Guilty.
Mr. Matthew prosecuted in this case, and said there was apparently no
reason for committing the offence.
Edith Ralph, the mother of the prisoner, said her son had a written
statement, but she was too broken-hearted to speak.
The statement set forth that the prisoner had suffered a great deal, and
could not sleep.
Mr. Denne said the prisoner had been in his employ for about five years,
and his conduct had been exemplary. He could offer no explanation, but
when he was fit to work he should be pleased to take him again.
Mr. Kemp, in reply to the Recorder, said he was afraid the prisoner
would always have to use a tube.
The father said he was willing to be bound over to see that his son was
of good behaviour for one year. Both father and son were therefore bound
over.
Folkestone Express 25 April 1908
Quarter Sessions
Wednesday, April 22nd: Before J.C. Lewis Coward Esq.
Leslie Ralph, a tailor, was charged with unlawfully attempting to commit
suicide by cutting himself with a razor, on 17th February. Prisoner, who
looked much better than he did when he appeared before the Magistrates,
pleaded Guilty.
Mr. Matthew, on behalf of the prosecution, said apparently, on the
depositions at any rate, there was no explanation for the act of the
prisoner. Prisoner had cut his throat with a razor, which had apparently
robbed himself of the power of speech, as it was thought that he was not
likely to speak again.
The Recorder: It seems to have been a very desperate attempt.
Mrs. Ralph, the mother of the prisoner, was called and asked why her son
had made the attempt. She replied that she was too heartbroken to speak
and that her son had two written statements for the Recorder.
Two statements were then handed to the Recorder, who read them. The
first was written by the prisoner, in the course of which he said his
sufferings at the time were beyond describing. He could get very little
sleep, as he suffered greatly from constipation. He earnestly asked for
forgiveness, as his father and mother were in great trouble. He had lost
his leg, and he asked God to give him strength in his affliction, to
gain prosperity. He publicly returned thanks to the Superintendent of
the Police and the policemen who had been by his bed of suffering for so
long, the doctor and nurses at the hospital, who had been so kind to
him, and to the clergymen who had visited him. He also thanked his
master, Mr. Denne, for his past kindness, and also Mr. Morgan, of 15,
Dover Street, who kindly came to the assistance of his father and
mother. He earnestly asked God forgiveness, and he again pleaded to him
(the Recorder) for the greatest mercy. The second statement was from the
father and mother, who appealed to the Recorder to be merciful to their
afflicted son. They could not give the slightest idea why he had done
it, because he was always so cheerful. In their heavy trials he tried to
make home as happy as possible. His chief study was to try and prosper
by his own industry. He never touched drink or smoked, never had an idle
moment after his daily labour. He made his own clothes and those of his
father and brother. He had suffered greatly from constipation. For the
second time in two years their licensed house which they had occupied
had been closed under the new Act. They had had fifteen children and had
held a licence for sixteen years, as well as being ratepayers for twenty
eight years.
Mr. Denne, a tailor, said the prisoner was an apprentice with him and
had served five years. During that time he had had no cause to find
fault with his behaviour. He had found him very cheerful, willing, and
honest.
Mrs. Ralph informed the Recorder that her son lost his leg when he was
nine years of age.
Mr. Denne said he did not know of any cause why Ralph should have done
such a thing. He had never any cause to suspect he would do anything of
the kind. The prisoner was not fit to work at the present, but when he
was he would be pleased to have him back again.
The mother said, in reply to the Recorder, that one of the nurses told
her her son would be able to do without the tube in his throat. His
voice was also coming back.
Dr. Kemp said the wound was a very dangerous one, and it must have
required great force. The razor cut clean through the larynx. The
prisoner might recover his speech, but he thought he might always have
to have the tube in his throat. He had heard from the burses that when
in the hospital the prisoner expressed contrition for his act.
Mr. Denne, recalled, said at the time prisoner was earning 8/6 a week
from him. He had advised him to look out for something better, where he
might earn more money.
The lad's father expressed his willingness to be bound over as surety
for his son's good behaviour. He further said he did not believe his son
would do such a thing again.
The Recorder said the prisoner had pleaded Guilty to one of the worst
attempts of suicide that had come before that Court. He did not believe
he was in his right mind when he did it. It was a cruel and wicked thing
to do. Had it not been for the appeals for mercy and his past good
conduct he should have felt it his duty to send him to prison. He would
take a merciful view of his conduct and he would be bound over to be of
good behaviour for one year. His father would also be bound over on his
behalf.
Folkestone Herald 25 April 1908
Quarter Sessions
Wednesday, April 22nd: Before J.C. Lewis Coward Esq.
Leslie Ralph was indicted for attempting to commit suicide by cutting
his throat with a razor on the 17th February. He pleaded Guilty.
Mr. T. Matthew prosecuted on behalf of the Crown, and remarked that by
his action the prisoner had, apparently, robbed himself of the power of
speech, and it was a question whether he would ever be able to speak
again.
Mrs. Edith Ralph, mother of the prisoner, was called, but said she was
too broken-hearted to speak, and she put in a statement which she asked
the Recorder to read. She also asked him to read one from her son.
Extracts from the letter were read by the Recorder, and in it the
prisoner earnestly appealed for mercy, for at the time he committed the
sin his sufferings were beyond description. He could not get much sleep
at night. He earnestly asked for forgiveness. He knew that his father
and mother were in great trouble owing to his having lost a leg, and he
asked God to give him strength to gain the prosperity for which he had
long been seeking. He wished publicly to thank Chief Constable Reeve,
and the police who had watched by his bedside during the time he had
been in the Victoria Hospital. Also he wished to thank the doctors,
clergy, and those who had visited him, not forgetting his master, Mr.
Denne, for the assistance he had given. He also wished to thank Mr.
Morgan, of No. 15, Dover Street, who had kindly come to his assistance,
and to that of his father and mother, who had tried so hard to pay their
way and bring up the family in the right way. He also earnestly asked
God's forgiveness, and again appealed to the Recorder for forgiveness.
In the second statement, the “broken-hearted father and mother” appealed
for mercy. They could not give the slightest idea as to why the boy
should have committed that act. He had always been so cheerful in the
heaviest trials, trying to make the home happy. His chief study was to
try and prosper by his own means. He had never drunk or smoked, nor did
he ever have an idle moment, for in his spare time he was engaged in
fretwork or music. He made his own clothes, and also tried to do his
mother's and father's also. He could not understand why boys were ever
dilatory or idle. The boy had suffered greatly from physical
irregularity. They felt most keenly all the circumstances, and had to
work hard in their old age to get an honest living. That was the second
time in two years they were having to leave a licensed house in the
congested area. The husband had been a licence holder in the town for 16
years, and had been a ratepayer for 28 years. He had had 15 in family,
and never had one been a disgrace to the town in any way. The prisoner
was just out of his apprenticeship, and his master, Mr. Denne, if in
Court would speak on his behalf. They most humbly apologised for
writing, but under all the circumstances they were too broken-hearted to
speak.
Mr. W. Denne said that the lad had been apprenticed to him for five
years, and in that time he had never had any cause to find any fault
with him for his behaviour, and had always found him a very willing lad,
of cheerful disposition, and honest. He could not explain what had
caused him to attempt to take his own life, for he had always been very
happy with witness. When he was well enough witness would be pleased to
take him back.
Dr. J.R. Kemp, house surgeon at the Victoria Hospital, described the
wound as a very dangerous one. It mus have required great force, for
there were three glands cut. The lad might recover, but it was more
likely that he would always have to wear a tube. He could ot say that
for certain. Prisoner had expressed contrition for the offence to the
nurses.
Mr. Denne, re-called, said that during his apprenticeship the boy had
8s. 6d. a week. He was getting on in life, and it was a question of
bettering himself, and finding a better position. He had served his
time, and witness had told him that he was worth more money, and as he
was not in a position to give him more he advised him to seek a fresh
place, although he did not wish to get rid of him until another
opportunity presented itself. Prisoner was quite willing, and he was on
the lookout for a situation.
The boy's father expressed his willingness to be bound over as a surety
that he would be of good behaviour for a year. He had no idea as to what
had led him to do that.
The Recorder: Now, Leslie Ralph, you have pleaded Guilty to one of the
worst attempts of suicide that have ever come before the Court. I cannot
believe you were in your right mind when you did it. It is a cruel and
wicked thing to have done. If it had not been for the appeals made to me
for mercy, I should have felt it my duty to have sent you to prison. It
is one of the worst cases that have come before me. However, I will take
a merciful view of your conduct, and will let you out. You will be bound
over to be of good behaviour for one year If you misbehave in any way,
and break the parole under which I put you, it will be a very serious
matter if you come before me. This Court takes a very serious view of
people who break parole when mercy is extended to them. You will be
bound over to be of good behaviour for twelve months. Your father will
have to be a surety also for your good behaviour.
Folkestone Daily News 2 February 1910
Wednesday, February 2nd: Before Messrs. Herbert, Stainer, Leggett,
Swoffer, and Linton.
Edith Ralph was charged with attempting to commit suicide.
An assistant at Timothy White's Ltd. deposed to prisoner buying some
spirits of salts, saying it was for cleaning closets. He pointed out to
her that it was a poisonous substance. Ten minutes later she brought it
back and said she wanted salts of lemon. He put it back in stock. She
then told him she had taken some and fell down. With the assistance of a
customer he administered an antidote of magnesia and chalk. There was no
perceptible diminution of the quantity he sold her, but half a
teaspoonful might have gone, which would not have produced fatal
results. It would take half on ounce to kill anyone.
The justices consulted for some time and then dismissed the case,
telling the accused that they knew she had had a lot of trouble, and
advising her to go home to her husband.
(This poor woman was one of the first victims of the Licensing Act. She
occupied a house in Tontine Street, which was closed, consequently their
living was gone, and they have had a severe struggle. Not long since one
of the sons attempted suicide and was bound over. It is certainly a case
in which a little real philanthropy would not be thrown away. Ed.)
Folkestone Express 5 February 1910
Wednesday, February 2nd: Before Messrs. W.G. Herbert, J. Stainer, G.I.
Swoffer, and R.J. Linton, and Major Leggett.
Edith Ralph, a married woman, was charged with attempting to commit
suicide.
Wm. Metcalf, managers to Messrs. Timothy White and Co., carrying on
business as chemists at 71, Tontine Street, said prisoner came into the
shop at about twenty minutes past three the previous afternoon. She
asked for twopennyworth of salts of lemon, saying she wanted it for
cleaning closets. Witness told her that salts of lemon was not the thing
to clean closets with. Prisoner said it was a liquid, and she wanted
either salts of lemon or spirits of salts. She satisfied him that it was
for a legitimate use, and he served her with twopennyworth of spirits of
salts in the eight ounce bottle produced. The bottle was filled, and
after paying threepence she left the shop, after he had ascertained that
she knew it was a poisonous substance. Within ten minutes prisoner
returned. She handed the bottle back, and said it was not the stuff she
wanted. She said it must be salts of lemon. Witness took the bottle
away, the contents of which were not appreciably diminished. He put the
contents into the bottle which he had previously taken it from, and he
went back to call the woman to him. Prisoner walked the length of the
shop, and then said “To tell you the truth, I have taken some of that”.
Just as she said those words, witness caught her in the act of falling.
He obtained the assistance of a customer, and they sat her down on a
chair, and witness administered an antidote as quickly as possible. She
did not vomit, and subsequently she recovered. A teaspoonful might have
been taken out of the bottle. Assuming she had taken that amount it
would make her ill. It would not prove fatal. An ounce would prove
fatal. The prisoner had taken about half a drachm.
The Chairman, after a consultation with the Clerk, said they did not
know whether prisoner really intended to take her life, but they hoped
she did not. They knew she had had a great deal of trouble. He advised
her to go home and be a sensible woman and not do such a foolish thing
again. She was discharged.
Folkestone Herald 5 February 1910
Wednesday, February 2nd: Before Mr. W.G. Herbert, Major Leggett, Messrs.
G.I. Swoffer, J. Stainer, and R.J. Linton.
Edith Ralph was charged with attempting to commit suicide the previous
day.
Wm. Metcalf, an assistant in the employ of Messrs. Timothy White and
Co., of 71, Tontine Street, stated that the accused came to the shop at
about 3.30 the previous day and asked for some salts of lemon – about
2d. worth. As it was a poisonous substance, he asked her what she wanted
it for, and she replied that her husband wanted it for cleaning
purposes. He told her that salts of lemon was not the thing to use for
the purpose, and she then said it was some liquid she wanted – either
salts of lemon or spirits of salts. She satisfied him that it was for a
legitimate purpose, and he served her with twopennyworth of spirits of
salts. She left the shop then, after he had ascertained that she knew it
was a poisonous substance. She returned to the shop within ten minutes,
and handed the bottle back, saying it was not the stuff she wanted. She
said it must be salts of lemon. He then took the bottle away. The
contents were not appreciably diminished in any way. He put the contents
back in stock. He went back and called the woman to him. Before he could
question her further she started to walk the length of the shop and said
“To tell you the truth, I have taken some of that”. Just as she said
those words he caught her in the act of falling. He obtained assistance
from a customer present in the shop, and they sat her down in a chair.
He administered an antidote as quickly as possible. He gave her magnesia
and chalk. In about five or ten minutes she seemed to recover. She did
not vomit, but a small quantity of the antidote came back into her
mouth. She probably took about half a teaspoonful, which would make her
feel ill. He scarcely thought that that amount would prove fatal. She
probably took a quantity weighing half a drachm. An ounce might prove
fatal.
The Chairman said prisoner had done a very foolish thing. Whether she
had intended to take her life or not they did not know. They hoped she
did not. The Bench knew she had had a good deal of trouble to try her.
He asked her to go home and be a sensible woman, and not try any of
those foolish actions again. She would be discharged.
Prisoner: Thank you. My trouble has overcome me.
Accused was then discharged.
Folkestone Herald 4 September 1920
Obituary
We regret to announce the death of Mrs. Edith Ralph, aged 62 years,
which took place after a long illness, on August 28th, at the residence
of her daughter, 1, London Street, Folkestone. Deceased will be
remembered as being the licensee of the old Duke of Edinburgh Inn, in
Tontine Street, before the licence of the house expired. The funeral
took place on Wednesday.
Folkestone Express 20 May 1933
Obituary
We record, with deep regret, the death of Mr. Frederick Ralph, of
Beaulieu, Bouverie Road West, Folkestone, who passed away suddenly at
Manor Court Nursing Home on Saturday last, in his 80th year.
Mr. Ralph had been in bad health for a long time; indeed, he had not
been able to leave his house for more than eight months, yet maintained
his accustomed keen interest in affairs.
Mr. Ralph was born in 1854 opposite old Newgate Prison (now demolished),
and he could remember the tolling of the Great Bell of St. Paul's when
the Prince Consort died in 1861, and, as a boy, witnessed the last
public execution which took place at Newgate in 1868 or 1869. After
occupying various posts in London (he was for a few months in the
Temple), he migrated to Hastings, where he met and married his wife, who
predeceased him by exactly five years. At Hastings he became a member of
the Royal Naval Volunteers, and in carrying out his duties as manager to
Messrs. Norton and Townsend he personally supervised, when a heavy sea
was running, the loading of the wines on board Lord Brassey's yacht “The
Sunbeam”. From Hastings Mr. Ralph went to Maidstone, where he became
proprietor of the Queen's Head Hotel. Here he organised the first
regatta to be held on the Medway.
Leaving Maidstone, Mr. Ralph came to Folkestone over 50 years ago, and
bought the Rose Hotel (now no more) in Rendezvous Street. The hotel was,
in those days, the recognised rendezvous of the principal citizens; the
large hotels further west were not built. As time went on his business
interests in Folkestone developed steadily. He was closely associated
with the formation of the Pleasure Gardens Theatre Company, and, at his
death, he was the senior member of the Board. He was always happy to
remember that the late Lord Radnor personally invited him to join the
Directorate. He took the greatest interest in theatrical affairs and
knew many stage celebrities. For a short time Mr. Ralph was connected
with the Victoria Pier. For many years he was Chairman of the Queen's
Hotel, resigning this position only recently owing to failing health. He
formed the Folkestone Billposting Company, which developed branches at
Dover and Hastings, this business being afterwards amalgamated with
Messrs. Partington, Kent, Limited, of which company he was Chairman at
the time of his death. He was also Chairman of the Burlington, and for
some years was Chairman of the Grand, afterwards remaining as Director.
About 30 years ago, Mr. Ralph formed the Leas Pavilion Company and took
a continuously active interest in this business to the last. He was for
some years on the Board of the Folkestone Gas Company, and likewise held
Directorships in Messrs. D. Baker and Co Ltd., and the Silver Spring
Mineral Water Company.
Mr. Ralph was always keenly interested in sport, and in his younger days
was a natural athlete, being, in particular, a lightweight boxer of
considerable merit, while many will also recall his great skill as a
billiards player.
As a businessman Mr. Ralph had foresight and courage. He took endless
pains to make anything he was connected with a success, and was
outstanding for his high standard of commercial probity. It would not be
too much to say that he was far more concerned with other people's
interests, if he felt responsible for them, than he was even for his
own. However, his judgement was rarely at fault, and his business
ventures were almost uniformly successful.
He was a man of very considerable personality, one with a finely
developed sense of humour, and he had an amazing collection of
anecdotes, with great powers as a mimic.
His greatest virtues were his sense of justice and his generosity.
Throughout his long life he performed kindnesses both small and great,
and it is no more than his due to say his passing will be widely
regretted. He felt the death of his wife very keenly, and during the
last few years he was sorely tried by his inability to lead as active a
life as formerly. Nevertheless, his interest in affairs remained
unimpaired to the last.
He leaves a son and daughter, Mr. F.H.M. Ralph and Miss Violet Ralph, to
mourn their loss.
The funeral took place on Wednesday at the Cheriton Road Cemetery. |