42 The Bayle
Folkestone
Above photos by Paul Skelton, 27 June 2009. |
Above sign, 1991. |
Guildhall sign left October 1991.
Above with thanks from Brian Curtis
www.innsignsociety.com
Card right from the 3rd series of Whitbread Inn Signs 1951. |
Above watercolour 2003 by Stuart Gresswell, once licensee of "Guildhall"
and "Raglan" kindly sent by Jan
Pedersen. |
Above drawing 2007 by Stuart Gresswell, kindly sent by Jan Pedersen. |
Originally called the "Globe."
Changed name in 1987.
Now (2010) operating under the Punch Taverns banner.
Folkestone Herald 31 July 1987.
Local News.
Folkestone now has two Guildhalls. One, the historic former Town Hall –
the other, the town's newest pub. The Globe public house in The Bayle
has been renamed The Guildhall. In a brief and very damp xceremony the
Mayor, Kelland Bowden, unveiled the new Guildhall sign to the cheers of
revellers and a trumpeter, before going upstairs to make a closer
inspection of the sign.
The mother of landlady Eileen Lewis, Maud, used to run the old Guildhall
pub, in Guildhall Street, which is now a Pizza Hut restaurant.
Mr. Bowden said “I think it is appropriate that the name of the old pub
should follow Eileen. I used to use the old pub when I was young”.
Landlady Eileen said “It's a dream come true to have the Guildhall back.
I'm just pleased the opening went without a hitch. I was sure that the
curtain was going to get stuck on the sign”.
Local News.
An application has been put forward for a restaurant licence by the
management of the Victoria Hotel, in Middelburg Square.
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Folkestone Herald 7 August 1987.
Letter.
I was most interested to read your report on the renaming of the Globe,
and in particular reference to “the town's newest pub”.
Whilst I appreciate Eileen Lewis' nostalgia for the old Guildhall which
she and her mother ran admirably for many years, I do feel that the end
result is wrong. I, like many others, regret the passing of the
Guildhall, but cannot help but feel that it would be better to have put
the Globe on the map, so to speak, which I am sure Eileen was capable
of. Call it what you will, it will always be the Globe, a much older
“house” than the Guildhall was, and can never be the Guildhall.
The earliest reference to the Guildhall is in August, 1870, when the
then occupant Mr. Andrews applied for a spirit licence, and it was
quoted in evidence that he had occupied the house for two years without
complaint, thus giving us 1868 as the earliest known date for the
Guildhall. The Globe, however, could boast a much older history. The
earliest reference to it is in 1855, and two years later there is
reference to the licence being transferred to Sarah Hambrook from Thomas
Maycock. This Mr. Maycock ran the Globe as a wine and spirit merchant,
but had a room referred to as the public room, where drink could be
consumed on the premises (this can be verified), and there is evidence
that he had done so since 1848, when the premises were erected.
Incidentally, there are still descendants of Mr. Maycock living in
Folkestone today. Indeed, Dr. C.H. Bishop states that the Globe is
probably built on the site of a much older inn.
So, to quote a reference elsewhere, it was felt by Eileen’s “locals”
that “a slice of history” had been lost with the closure of the
Guildhall, a much older “slice of history” has been lost with the
passing of the name of the Globe.
E. D. Rooney,
Mead Road,
Folkestone.
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Folkestone Herald 28 August 1987.
Local News.
The recent renaming of the Globe public house in Folkestone has roused a
host of fond memories for one woman – she was born there. Joan Mann, of
Stanley Road, Cheriton, came kicking and screaming into the world
shortly after the First World War.
Her grandfather, Alfred Fox, was the licensee of the 19th Century pub,
now named the Guildhall, shortly after the turn of the century, and
remained the pub’s landlord through the First World War. Mrs. Mann said
“I remember my grandfather as a jolly old man, and very popular in the
pub. He was a teetotaller and it was only after his retirement in the
early 20’s that he touched a drop or two of brandy. Mrs. Mann supplied
us with the photograph showing regulars and staff outside the old pub
and what a smart lot they are. Eagle-eyed readers might spot the little
white dog in the background.
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Folkestone Herald 20 November 1987.
Local News.
Beer drinkers in Folkestone have passed a bitter milestone in pint
prices. This week the Good Pub Guide book was frothed up over Kent
regulars digging deeper into their pockets than most of Britain's
pub-goers. The guide criticises a one third increase in Surrey, Sussex
and Kent during the year “pressing towards the £1-a-pint barrier which
London has passed”. But some pubs in Folkestone broke the barrier up to
two years ago and finding a brew in the area for less is a problem.
Folkestone landlords this week criticised the guide for being out of
touch and blamed high rates plus brewery increases for the pricey cost
of their pints.
Geoff Gosford, landlord of the Lifeboat in The Durlocks, said “Prices
are quite high, but so are the overheads. Folkestone rates are the same
as some London boroughs. Our beers can be expensive, but it is all real
ale. We recently had the legendary Conqueror here as a guest ale. It was
£1.28 a pint but three pints of that beer was worth nine of any other. I
haven't had one complaint about my prices”.
Eileen Lewis, landlady of the Guildhall on The Bayle (£1 a pint) said
“Some pubs may take advantage and raise prices higher. But the majority
are very conscious of the cost of beer to their customers. It is not
publicans clamouring for expensive beer, it is breweries”.
Ken Holletts, landlord of the British Lion (£1 a pint) said “I have not
raised the price of beer since becoming the landlord. All increases have
been imposed by the brewery. Our prices are reasonable, and as cheap as
you'll find in the town centre”.
Black Bull landlady Maureen Coles in Canterbury Road (prices again in
the £1 range) said “Rates and electricity and so on are all expensive
and brewery increases take their toll”.
A spokesman for Whitbread, a major brewery supplying Folkestone, said
“Beer prices are cheaper in other parts of the country, but Folkestone
is no different, really, to most other parts of the South East”.
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Folkestone Herald 15 July 1988.
Local News.
Thirsty summer drinkers in Shepway will have to wait for all-day pub
openings because of a Whitehall glitch. The Government has been
forced to delay the controversial new licensing laws until September
1. This has been caused by a technical problem at the Home Office
which means present “last orders” for another two months. Then pubs
will be able to serve alcohol from 11a.m. to 11p.m. all week. But
not all Shepway landlords reckon it will be worth the bother.
Horace Brickell from the East Cliff Tavern said “It’s a great idea
for some pubs, but for the ones in restricted areas, like us, it’s
not much good.
here we are placed, it won’t make any difference and it will be a
waste of time staying open”.
William Taylor, landlord of the Pullman Wine Bar and chairman of the
Folkestone and District Licensed Victuallers Association, said
"There is some confusion, but no-one is forced to stay open. They
will be able to choose the hours that suit them.” Mr. Taylor said
there were mixed feelings about the changes. “Pubs in busy areas are
welcoming them but small, rural or out-of-the-way places are
indifferent. Personally, I’m
in favour. I think it will give flexibility to the licensee and the
public. I don’t think it will cause more drunkenness because people only
have a certain amount of money to spend each week. And I don’t mind the
extra hours involved because we will get extra staff which will help the
dole queue”.
Barry Chamberlain from the White Lion in Cheriton agrees. He said “I
think it’s about time change was made. Pubs will become much more
suitable for families, and will be more like restaurants. We will try to
stay open all day. We are just about to redecorate the pub with the new
freedom in mind”.
Michael Norris from the East Kent Arms told us “I’ve accepted that the
new laws are coming, although I have mixed feelings about them. I think
it’s a shame we are not being allowed to stay open later at night rather
than all afternoon. Of course we will be making full use of the new
hours and will try to serve food all day. It’s all right for us because
we are so centrally placed”.
Eileen Lewis from The Guildhall in The Bayle summed up the feelings of
most landlords when she said “If I’m making money, I’ll stay open”. She
added “It’s all right for more central pubs, but I can’t see us staying
open in winter. The brewery has asked us to give it a three-month trial
period. Like other pubs, we’ll just have to feel our way when the change
comes”.
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Folkestone Herald 26 August 1988.
Local News.
Pubs in Folkestone, Hythe and Romney Marsh will continue with the
time-honoured cry “Time, please” despite the big shake-up in pub hours
this week.
Some will “test the beer” with all-day opening, but most landlords
contacted by the Herald felt there wasn’t the demand, and that they
would be out-of-pocket if they had to pay staff to man empty bars.
Martin Foulkes, landlord of the Clarendon, Tontine Street, Folkestone,
said “I run a night pub really. I do not have enough customers during
the day to keep it open. It just would not make sense. On Fridays and
Saturdays I might stay open in the afternoon; it depends on how many
people we have in”.
At the Guildhall, The Bayle, Folkestone, landlady Eileen Lewis said “I
am waiting to see how it goes. I might stay open on Thursday, Friday and
Saturday, but only if we are busy”.
The White Lion, Cheriton, is going to be open all day, every day except
Tuesdays and Sundays. “There are plenty of workers who finish their
shifts in the afternoon who will come here for a drink”, said the
landlord.
Kent’s biggest brewery, Shepherd Neame, welcomed tie change. Chairman
Robert Neame said “It is a victory for common sense. The new laws
provide licensees with an opportunity to improve their trading”.
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Folkestone Herald 23 February 1990.
Local News.
Landlord and lady Peter and Marie Hayes have taken over The Guildhall
pub on The Bayle, at Folkestone. The couple have managed the Park Inn,
Folkestone, for the last three and a half years. Now they are becoming
their own bosses by taking up a tenancy at the Guildhall.
Peter and Marie have become well-known for their friendly service and
hope regulars at the Guildhall will get to know them as well as their
customers at the Park Inn did. Marie said “We really want to say a big
“Thank you” to our old customers. We hope they will come and see us at
The Guildhall”. Peter added “There will be a big welcome for customers
old and new when they come here. It will be great to be my own boss; I'm
looking forward to the challenge”.
The present Guildhall pub used to be The Globe. The old Guildhall has
been replaced by Folkestone's Pizza Hut. The Globe was renamed when the
landlady of The Guildhall moved there several years ago. The landlady
was Eileen Lewis, whose mother had run the old Guildhall for 40 years.
Eileen ran the Guildhall until her death last year.
Peter is from Northampton and Marie from Sheffield. Peter said “We may
have been here just a few years, but we have both known the area for 15
years. We used to visit it quite a lot”.
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Folkestone Herald 6 July 1990.
Local News.
Members of the Folkestone pub trade held a minute's silence in memory of
one of the town's best-loved landladies. They got together to unveil a
new bench in The Bayle dedicated to Eileen Lewis, who died at the end of
last year. Eileen, 58, ran The Guildhall in Folkestone. She was Chairman
of the women's Licensed Victuallers' Association, and did a lot of work
for local charities.
Doreen Everson from the Brewery Tap said “A lot of people thought a lot
of Eileen – she is very sadly missed”.
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Folkestone Herald 6 September 1991.
Local News.
Pub burglars stole £3,300 in cash and cigarettes when they broke into a
vending machine, juke box, charity box and fruit machine. They also
caused £2,500 damage at the Guildhall, in The Bayle, Folkestone.
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From the Folkestone Herald online, 10 October 2013. By
Dean Kilpatrick
PUB BOSS IF RECOGNISED FOR HIS GOOD SERVICES TO "GOOD
BEER"
A MARRIED couple who run a Folkestone pub are enjoying the taste of
success once again thanks to their twelfth consecutive entry in Camra's
annual Good Beer Guide.
Stuart and Gilly Gresswell, proprietors at The "Guildhall" in Bayle
Street, said they were pleased their selection of ales had been
recognised by Campaign for Real Ale reviewers, who also listed The "Pullman"
and The "East Cliff Tavern"
in this year's selection.
And Mr Gresswell said the inclusion was a major boost to the pub, as
real ale enthusiasts tend to be keen followers of the guide's
recommendations.
The 60-year-old said: “If ever I go anywhere, it is the first thing I
look at to see who serves good real ale, and I think a lot of our
customers do the same.
“A good beer has to look good, taste good and different in all kinds
of ways.
‘it's got a different character about it and a lot of people are
deciding to give it a go.
Factor
“The price is also a factor.”
The father-of-two, who has a run a number of pubs in Folkestone over
the past 40 years, added that the Camra award helped pubs like The
Guildhall “stand out from a competitive crowd”.
In the guide, Camra said: “The Guildhall is a welcoming, traditional
single-bar pub, close to the town centre.
“Large windows give the interior a light, airy feel.
“This is an ideal place to take a break from the hustle and bustle
and enjoy good beer.”
Gilly, his wife of 38 years, added: “You can't pay to be in the Good
Beer Guide and there are a lot of recommendations out there that charge
you to enter these things.”
“Beer has always been Stuart's thing. It used to be beer first and me
second!”, she joked.
The Camra guide reviewers described The "East
Cliff Tavern" as a “friendly terraced back-street pub, near a
footpath across the railway line, a short walk from the harbour.”
They add: “The Pullman is a
comfortable pub with background classical music, near the town centre
shopping area."
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LICENSEE LIST
LEWIS Eileen 1987-89
COX William 1989-90
HAYES Peter & LAWTON Marie 1990-94
BUSHELL Mark and Stephen 1994-96
HILL Graham and Teresa 1996-2000
GRESSWELL Stuart 2000-02
GRESSWELL Stuart and Gillian 2002-13+
https://www.whatpub.com/guildhall
From More Bastions of the Bar by Easdown and Rooney
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