8 New Street (Turne-againe Lane) (28 in 1911)
Dover
Above picture from an advert in Pike's Blue book 1905. Stating:- "The
Prince of Orange, Queen's Gardens. Has just been rebuilt, and is now
thoroughly up to date, with well fitted Saloon, Smoking-room, etc. All
Wines, Spirits, and Cigars are of the best only. The Most Private and
Comfortable House In The Town. Rigdens Celebrated Faversham Ales and
Stout. |
The pub is top right, shown in 1971 during the demolition of York Street
for the dual carriageway. |
From the Dover Gazette, 8 October 1980.
This aerial photograph of Dover's town centre pinpoints the ten acres
that has proved such a rich harvest ground for the archaeologists. The
ten acres are bounded by the Market Square (bottom right), York Street
(to the left), and Biggin Street (to the right). Some of the Roman and
Saxon ruins can be seen. Off York Street are the new Maybrook House
Offices with the Folkestone Road roundabout behind. In the far distance
the grounds of Dover College, Dover Town Hall, High Street, and Priory
Hill can be seen. The "Prince of Orange" is highlighted centre. |
Above photo 1987. |
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Photos above and below Prince of Orange circa 1980 by Barry Smith. |
Prince of Orange sign August 1991.
Above with thanks from Brian Curtis
www.innsignsociety.com
Prince of Orange 19 July 2009, photo by Stuart Kinnon.
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Above photo circa 1972, kindly sent by Mark Jennings, who says it was
taken by his Great Uncle Aubrey Pemble and could well be from the first
dig in 1971. |
Above shows the Prince of Orange sign in 2007. |
Above brickwork showing graffiti cut into it by an F. White in what
looks like 1932 or 1939. No idea who is was. Kindly sent by Barry
O'Brien. |
Mentioned in Pigot's Directory 1840 under "Taverns and Public Houses". As a beerhouse of 1846 it presumably honoured the prince, who was
reported off Dover, with five hundred ships and transports, on 3 November
1688. His landing was much further West but the result was significant.
From the Kentish Gazette, 24 April 1838.
The Apollonian Club, held at the "Prince of Orange Tavern," closed its
season on Friday. The company was very numerous, and
the gentlemen of the orchestra provided a rich musical treat. The annual
supper will take place on Monday evening, when a piece
of plate of about £20 value will be presented to Mr. Henry Palmer, for
his valuable and gratuitous services as leader of the
orchestra.
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From the Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports General
Advertiser, Saturday 15 March, 1845. Price 5d.
CORONERS INQUEST
On Wednesday, at 8 o'clock in the evening, an inquest was held at the
"prince of Orange," New-street, before G. T. Thompson, Esq., coroner to
the borough, on the body of ----- Tart, who was taken in a fit while in
the act of shaving himself, and never spoke afterwards.
Several witnesses were examined, and the jury, after a brief
deliberation, returned a verdict to the effect that the deceased died
from natural causes.
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Dover Chronicles 7 March 1846.
Dover Petty Sessions. Monday.
This being the transfer day for ale house licences, the following
transfers took place.
"Prince of Orange," to George Frederick Hart.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer,
10 March, 1871. Price 1d.
AIDING A SOLDIER TO DESERT
William Beercroft, a miserable-looking man of the vagrant type, was
charged with aiding a soldier to desert from the 67th Regiment,
stationed in this garrison, and with having in his possession a tunic, a
pair of braces, a belt, and a cap, the property of the crown.
Jacob Robbins, landlord of the "Prince of Orange" public-house, York
Street, said: About eight o'clock last evening the prisoner came into my
house. He left a small parcel there, and went out, as he said, to see
about a dog. He came back in about five minutes with two soldiers. He
asked for a pint of beer. I brought him in the beer and he said I might
as well make a pot of it. Prisoner then asked me if I had a private
room. I told him I had not. He said he wanted to write a letter, and I
told him that he could go into the smoking-room. He said that that would
not do, and I told him that I could not accommodate him further. He then
asked me if I had a aback yard. I told him I had, and one of the
soldiers and the prisoner then went out together into the yard. Shortly
afterwards the other soldiers followed him. The prisoner took his bundle
with him; and as the yard was full of linen, which was drying, I
followed them, in order to look after my property. When I got out on the
step leading into the yard, which was about twelve yards from them (I
could not see them very well, because the clothes were in the way), I
heard them chattering to themselves. When they observed me, one of them
said, "All right, governor, you can go back." I stood waiting in the
yard for a few minutes, and as I thought they had been there long
enough, I went towards them. When I got within two or three strides of
them I heard a noise at the back gate, and on reaching them found that
one of the soldiers had got over the wall. The prisoner had the tunic,
and belt, and the braces produced on his arm and the cap was on the
ground. I could not see whether the soldier who was getting over the
wall was dressed, or not. The soldiers were in uniform when they came
into my house. Prisoner wanted me to take the things and let him go; but
I told him he was in the wrong hands for that.
Sergeant George Smirl, of the 67th Regiment, deposed: I am a
colour-sergeant in the D company of the 67th Regiment. The braces, the
belt, the tunic, and the cap are all the property of private William
Choice, who belongs to my company. He has been absent since yesterday
afternoon. He had no right to part with his regimentals.
In reply to the Magistrates, Mr. Robbins said that the bundle the
prisoner had with him when he came into the house disappeared at the
same time as the soldier.
The prisoner had no real defence to offer; but he told a rambling
story, apparently with the object to leading the Bench to think that his
unsuspecting innocence had been imposed upon.
The Magistrates told him that he had been guilty of a grave offence,
and sent him to prison for three months, with hard labour.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 10 May, 1878
TRANSFERS
John Hills applied to have the license of the “Prince of Orange”
transferred to him.
The Superintendent said when permission to draw was granted, the
applicant stated that he had been keeping the “Blue Anchor,” at Chatham.
He wrote to Chatham, but the authorities there knew no such place.
Applicant's wife had taken out a summons against her husband for
knocking her about, so that if the landlord and landlady were going to
quarrel it was better the license should not be granted.
The Bench refused the application, and ordered the house to be closed
immediately.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 17 May, 1878
SELLING WITHOUT A LICENCE
John Hills, proprietor of the “Prince of Orange” public-house, New
Street, was summoned for selling intoxicating liquors without a licence.
Police-sergeant Hemmings deposed that he visited the house on the night
of the 7th inst., where he found two men with a pot containing malt
liquor. The landlord told him that he had permission from Mr. Kingsford
to draw beer.
Mr. Stillwell, Justices' Clerk, proved by the registry licenses that the
defendant was not licensed to sell beer in the house in question.
In defence, the defendant said he gave the man beer for cutting up some
wood, and he called a man named James Jonah, who said that he lived at
the “Prince of Orange,” and was asked by the defendant to cut up some
wood, when he afterwards offered him some beer, which he accepted, and
gave some to the other man.
The defendant was fined 40s. and costs.
The Bench reminded him that he
had made himself liable to a penalty of £50.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 31 May, 1878
STEALING WEARING APPAREL
Barton Conley was brought up charged with stealing off a line in a
garden of 43, High Street, a quantity of wearing apparel, the property
of Mr. W. R. Hood.
William Robert Hood said: I am a Trinity pilot, residing at 43, High
Street, Charlton. On the 14th inst., I had occasion to go into the
garden to fetch some clothed which were hanging on a line. I took in the
heavy things and left out the flannel petticoat, one shirt, one cravat,
three babies frocks, a white chemise, two towels, two tea cloths, and
one pair of drawers. I missed them on the morning of the 15th. I did not
say anything then, but on the night of the 24th I received information
which induced me to communicate with the Police. My garden is the fourth
one from Barwick's Alley, and there is a hole through the wall. The
value of the articles stolen amount to 30s.
Mary Ann Hood, daughter of the last witness, identified the flannel
petticoat produced as belonging to her.
Emma Gatehouse said: I am a single woman, living at Barwick's Alley. I
know the prisoner. He has been living with me up till the last
fortnight. Since then he has been living at the “Prince of Orange”
public-house, New Street. About a fortnight ago, in the evening, I saw
the prisoner coming up the alley with a bundle under each arm. On the
morning of the same day he came to my house with a chemise, a pair of
drawers, and a white scarf, and asked my sister to buy them. She told
him she had no money, and he took them away. He said he had got them
from three or four walls from where we lived. About five days afterwards
he came to me and asked me to buy the flannel petticoat produced for two
shillings. I told him I had no money and he then offered it to me for a
shilling, but I refused to buy it.
Caroline Dane said: I am the wife of Edward Dane, who is a general
dealer in St. James' Street. On Thursday last the prisoner came to my
shop and asked me to buy the petticoat produced for a shilling. He said
his landlady wanted a little money and he was trying to sell it for her.
I gave him nine-pence for it. A Policeman came and asked about it and I
gave it up to him. I have never seen the prisoner before he came into my
shop.
Police-sergeant Stevens said: On Saturday, the 25th, from information I
received I went to the last witness's shop. I described a number of
articles that had been stolen, and asked her if she had bought any of
them. The last witness gave me the petticoat produced, and I took
possession of it. I saw the prisoner at the Canterbury County Police
Court, and charged him with stealing a quantity of wearing apparel from
a garden at 43, High Street. Prisoner in reply said he was innocent. I
thereupon brought him to Dover.
Prisoner had nothing to say in defence, and was committed for trial at
the next Quarter Sessions.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 5 July, 1878
LICENSING BUSINESS
Permission to draw was granted to a man from Sheerness at the “Prince of Orange,”
New Street.
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WHITING Henry John
Personal Estate £50
Who died 14th January 1889 at the said Tavern was proved at the
Principal Registry by Jane Elizabeth Whiting of the said Tavern Spinster
and sole Executrix.
19 June. The Will of Henry John Whiting late of the "Prince of
Orange," Beerhouse, New Street, Dover in the County of Kent. Beerhouse
keeper who died 20 April 1889 at the "Prince of Orange" was proved at
Canterbury by Jane Whiting of the "Prince of Orange" Widow the Relict
the sole Executrix.
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Rigden and Company had plans approved for rebuilding in 1901 and on
completion it stood on the corner with Queen's Gardens. It later passed to
Fremlin and extensive alterations to the bars were made by Ernest Lee in
1980.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 23 August, 1901. Price 1d.
NEW STREET IMPROVEMENT
Mr. Wightwick, solicitor, applied on behalf of Messrs. Rigden & Co.,
Brewers, Faversham, for approval of the plans of the new public house to
be erected in New Street, to replace the “Prince of Orange.” The Dover
Corporation had arranged with the owners to take a portion of the land
upon which the present house stood, and were giving them land in
exchange. The owners proposed to take down the existing house and erect
a new one, and the object of this application was that when they came
for a renewal of the licence, the Bench could see that it was erected
according to the plans. The Bench examined the plans, and asked that the following alterations
be made: That the door at the rear of the house should be closed, that
the side door should only be used by the household, and that only two
entrances in front should be used by the public. With the exception of
this, the Bench were satisfied with the plans. |
From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer, 11
December, 1903. Price 1d.
APPLICATION
Alterations to the "Prince of Orange," New Street, were approved, on
condition that a back entrance be bricked up.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 12
May, 1905. Price 1d.
LICENSING BUSINESS
The Magistrates' Clerk said that all the licenses would be renewed,
except that of the “Prince of Orange,” New Street, the landlord of which
had just died, and Messrs. Rigden would make the necessary steps in that
case.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 10 February, 1922. Price 1½d.
DEATH OF THE LICENSED VICTUALLERS' SECRETARY
The death occurred on February 3rd of Mr. George Alfred Husks, landlord
of the “Prince of Orange,” Queen's Gardens, after a few days illness, at
the age of 66 years. The funeral took place on Monday at Faversham, the
deceased's home. The deceased was for many years the Secretary of the
Dover and District Licensed Victualler's and their Seller's Protection
League. The mourners present were his brothers and sisters, and Mr. Pay;
whilst the following representatives the Licensed Victuallers' Society:-
Messrs. E. G. Ovenden, P. King, H. Maslin, and H. Chapman. Floral
tributes were sent from his brothers Sam and all at Beckenham. Edie, his
brothers and sisters; Emma, May and Tom, Mr. and Mrs. Booker; Nurse
Taylor, Mr. and Mrs. Lamoon; the officers and brothers of the “Duke of
Connaught Lodge.” R.A.O.B., G.S.R., the officers and brethren of the
“Dover Priory Lodge,” A.O.D. (No. 401), the Dover and District Licensed
Victualler's and Beer Sellers' Protection Society; the officers and
brethren of “The pride of Dover Lodge.” R.A.O.B., G.S.R.; and the
officers and brethren of the South East Kent District, R.A.O.B., G.L.K.
The funeral arrangements were carried out by Mr. B. J. Andrews, of 22,
New Street, and 1, Westbury Road, Dover.
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Dover Express 25th August 1944.
At the Dover Licensing Sessions on Friday last, a music and singing
licence was granted to the “Prince of Orange”, New Street.
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Unfortunately currently closed, hopefully temporarily. (March 2008).
Another pub had displayed this sign. It traded from Stembrook and older
residents will remember it more readily as the "Ancient Druids".
From the Dover Mercury, 1 January 2003.
All change for pub-goers.
CUSTOMERS of a Dover public house have noticed some major changes at
their local.
As well as new landlords at the Prince of Orange in New
Street, the pub has undergone a complete transformation following a
massive refurbishment costing £40,000.
Pubmaster, who own the Prince of
Orange, aimed to enhance its quality and character and it now boasts a
new kitchen as well as brand new fixtures and fittings,
The landlords,
Carl Hood and Derek Fletcher, took on the tenancy at the pub after
realising the potential it had. Having worked in the licensed industry
for many years, the pair bring a wealth of experience with them.
As well
as introducing food which includes bar snacks, an a la carte menu and
traditional Sunday roast, Carl and Derek have also organised a football
team to represent the pub in local leagues and live entertainment every
Sunday evening.
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From the Dover Mercury, 20 February 2003.
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From the Dover Mercury 20 March 2003.
Ingredients are just right at refit pub.
CHEF Carl Hood has mixed the perfect ingredients to make the Prince
of Orange in New Street, Dover, the name on satisfied customers' lips.
As the new manager, he has masterminded a £40,000 refit of the
centuries-old hostelry to create what he proudly calls "a country pub in
the middle of town".
Carl added: "It was a beer house in 1846 and was rebuilt in 1901. Now
it has a family friendly atmosphere after a four-month refurbishment
programme. We also have a pool table and new furnishings."
Carl, 35 was head chef of a top hotel before deciding on his new
challenge.
"I came to Dover and saw for myself the potential of both the town
and the Prince of Orange," he said.
"There's a fully-equipped kitchen and we specialise in producing
quality food at affordable prices, whether for bar snacks or full
meals."
The Prince of Orange Sunday roast is £4.50 but there are baguettes
and jacket potatoes with a variety of fillings, specials every day and a
vegetarian menu with unusual and mouth-watering dishes such as sweet
potato and chestnut bake, as well as veggie burgers.
With a team of trained staff to look after visitor needs, regulars
and tourists alike can be confident that The Prince's reputation for
hospitality is as strong now as it was 150 years ago.
New Look: The newly-refurbished bar at the Prince of Orange.
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From the Dover Mercury 25 January 2007.
Pub row ends in jail term.
A CONSTRUCTION worker who admitted assault, twice breaching an ASBO and
possessing cannabis has been jailed for six months.
Paul Morris, 33, of Longfield Road, Dover, breached the ASBO by
going into the Prince of Orange pub in May and assaulting Katherine
O'Reilly after an exchange of words.
After she threw her drink over him,
he retaliated and unintentionally hit her on the chin with his glass,
Canterbury Crown Court heard.
Morris said he had been reckless.
The ASBO
was handed out by Folkestone magistrates in August 2004.
One of its conditions was that Morris kept out of pubs and clubs in
Dover because of his history of alcohol-related offending.
But on July
22 last year, a CCTV operator saw him go into the Golden Lion in Priory
Street.
Police were called and Morris admitted going into the pub, but
said his ASBO had only 30 more days to run.
He also handed over to
officers a small amount of cannabis, saying it was for pain relief
because he had a back problem.
Peter Alcock, defending, said Morris
picked up a lot of work in pubs.
"The risk of harm to the public is
low," Mr Alcock added.
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From the Dover Express, 9 August 2007. Report by Rhys Griffiths.
SMOKING BAN - PUBS FEEL THE EFFECTS A MONTH ON.
The Prince of Orange in New Street, barman Ricky
Stepney said business had slowed and predicted the worse was yet to
come.
He said: "Trade has dropped quite a lot, nobody likes having to go
outside to smoke. The people who supported the ban don't come in and
when the weather changes it will get worse."
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From the Dover Express, 6 March 2008. Report by Yamurai Zendera.
Pub sale has ‘left void’ says landlord Dave.
FORMER pub baron Dave Bliss, who was at the helm of the Prince of
Orange when it closed, has told the Express in the week it was put up
for sale, that losing it has “left a void” in his life. In his 41 years in Dover, Mr Bliss, 61, has managed a string pubs, his
last being the Prince of Orange, with wife Ann, 58, as the tenancy
holder. Last November their New Street boozer closed because, as Mr Bliss puts
it, their losses became “colossal”. The pub’s dire financial woes at the time, which he partly attributes to
losing a lot of customers last June because of a leaky roof, has
resulted in a dispute with the owners Admiral Taverns. Last week, the Prince of Orange was put on the market for £250,000 with
Admiral Taverns only prepared to say: “It no longer fits in with our pub
portfolio.” Mark Grieg, managing director of property agency Paramount Investments,
which is overseeing the sale, said: “The pub could be
redeveloped as housing if no-one is willing to take it on as a going
concern. Obviously the hope is that it should continue as a pub.” Speaking from his two bedroom bungalow in Whitfield, Mr Bliss, who has
become reclusive since the closure, said: “For all the stress, it’s
still very sad it had to go the way it did. I put five years of my life
into it. It’s left a bit of a void in my life to say the least.
Basically, I’ve got nothing to do. I just spend my time watching the TV
or going on the computer. My wife works part-time in the NHS.” Since moving to Dover from Folkestone, the former legal clerk has gained
a reputation for investing in a number of businesses in the town. He and second wife Ann have run The Orange Tree, The Flagship, The Royal
Oak and the Prince of Orange and for 10 years he owned the now defunct
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From the Dover Express, Thursday 12 June, 2008.
Prince ready for rebirth
UNCERTAINTY surrounding the future of the Prince of Orange pub in Dover
has finally been resolved after it emerged the property has been sold to
a local pub landlord.
The New Street boozer had been on the market for
£250,000 through property agency Paramount Investments since February.
It was put up for sale by owners Admiral Taverns, who at the time said:
"it no longer fits in with our pub portfolio".
The last tenancy holders
of the Prince of Orange were husband and wife Dave and Ann Bliss of Whitfield,
(shown below) who ran into financial difficulties.
Paramount Investments
previously stated their desire for the freehold to be taken on by
someone wishing to keep it going as a pub.
Company spokesman Andy Bernyeat confirmed an offer matching the asking
price had been made. He said: "It's been sold, subject to the contracts
being exchanged.
"The idea is that it will stay as a pub. We are talking
about someone local in the trade, who wants to keep it open."
Mr Bernyeat said the sale was good news for the pub trade, which has had to
change the way it works since the introduction of the smoking ban last
year.
He said: "We are pleased that it will stay as a pub.
"We're always
glad to see pubs open. They are under a lot of pressure at the moment,
and some have had to close for various reasons."
Final paperwork is
expected to be tied up this week.
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Currently closed February 2008.
The CAMRA branch meeting of June 2008 reported that the pub had been sold
and will be reopening some time in the future. September reported that the
change of use application that was submitted had been refused and it was up
for sale again.
From the Dover Mercury 13 November 2008.
PUB CONVERSION
DISTRICT councillors are being asked to approve the
change of use and conversion of the former "Prince of Orange" public house
in New Street, Dover, to four one-bedroom flats, and the construction of
a first floor extension above a flat roof.
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From the Dover Express, Thursday 20 November, 2008.
Application to turn Prince of Orange pub into flats.
HOPES of keeping open the Prince of Orange pub in New Street, Dover,
a drinking establishment since 1846, appear to be dashed. A planning
application- has been made by Victor Evans to change the use of the pub
by the provision of four one-bedroom flats, with a first-floor extension
above a flat roof area. The ancient property, in what was once
Turn-again Lane, was rebuilt in 1901.
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Above photo by Chris Whippet,
Creative Commons Licence. |
LICENSEE LIST
HATTON John 1840+
POULTER James 1844
HART George Frederick Mar/1846-58+
HATTON Mary 1861+ (age 53 in 1861)
ESCOTT Mrs Sarah 1874
HUDSON George Mar/1877+
RIGDEN July/1878+
FAGG William 1879
TURNER John 1879 end
BOLLEN Charles E 1881+ (age 37 in 1881)
WHITING Henry John pre 1891
WHITING Jane 1891+ (widow age 48 in 1891)
GILLETT J 1897 end
SCOTT George junior 1897-98 end
CLAYSON Isaac Stephen 1898-99
WILLIAMS Mrs Eliza F 1901
FRANCIS H 1901-03 end
DEETH Percy 1903+
MARTIN William June/1904-09 end
(From
Ashford)
MARTIN Charles 1909
MAITH W 1909 end
ROBINSON Charles 1910-Apr/12 (age 53 in 1911)
DEETH Percy 1913?
HINKS/HUSKS George Alfred Apr/1912-Mar/22 dec'd
PAY Mrs Edith M to Apr/1922
HARRISON Raymond or W R Apr/1922-Nov/25
(Of
Sheffield)
REES Albert Nov/1925-Jan/27
(Engineer from Barham Hill, London)
DENT Edward Barry Jan/1927-42 end
(Late P.T. instructor at Duke of York's R.M. School)
MARTIN W 1942
NICE Charles Frederick 1942-56 end
McLERNON Horace Percival Victor 1955 ?
BEER Peter William 1957-66 end
EADES Cyril J 1966-78 end
Whitbread Fremlins
McNELLY M 1978
WYLDEBORE Frank 1978
LEE Ernest 1980-84 end
BANNAN James 1984+
HOOD Carl & FLETCHER Derek 2003+
ARMSTRONG James 2005-06 (also "Flagship")
BLISS Dave to 2008
The Dover Express reported George Hinks to be from Faversham.
From the Pigot's Directory 1840
From Bagshaw Directory 1847
From Melville's Directory 1858
From the Post Office Directory 1874
From the Kelly's Directory 1899
From the Post Office Directory 1901
From the Kelly's Directory 1903
From the Post Office Directory 1913
From the Post Office Directory 1922
From the Post Office Directory 1930
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1932-33
From the Post Office Directory 1938
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1938-39
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1948-49
From the Kelly's Directory 1950
From the Kelly's Directory 1953
From the Kelly's Directory 1956
Library
archives 1974
From the Dover Express
Census
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