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PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1874

Two Brothers

Latest 1965

91 Northgate Street

Canterbury

Two Brothers 1952

Above photo, circa 1952, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Two Brothers 1961

Above photo, 1961, kindly sent by Tim Timpson.

Two Brothers 1961

Above photo, 1961, kindly sent by Tim Timpson.

Two Brothers drawing

Above John Berbiers, Canterbury City Architect and Panner drawing, circa 1980 kindly sent by Tim Timpson.

Two Brothers 1953

Above photo, 1953, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Two Brothers 1966+

Above photo taken some time after its closure in 1965. Photograph by Edward Wilmot.

Former Two Brothers

Above image from Google, July 2009.

Former Two Brothers 2017

Above photo, August 2017, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Two Brothers Bat and Trap 1936

Above photo, 1936, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe. The Henry Court Cup was first awarded in 1933 and is still played for by teams in the Canterbury Bat & Trap League today (2019). The little girl is Vera Willey, who is sitting in front of her father, Edward Willey, who was the licensee in 1936. Edward's son, Ken, is sitting behind the cup winners' placard.

 

According to Edward Wilmot's book "Inns of Canterbury" published 1988, the premises is a Grade 2 listed building, being restored around that year. The house was at one time called the "Spread Eagle" amongst other names but was renamed again in 1871 after the "Spread Eagle" gained a bad reputation. The brothers being W. E. and J. Rigden, the brewers of the City and owners of the house.

However, the house numbers do not appear to line up, unless the street numbers have been altered. So I am saying this house was not the "Spread Eagle" previously. Although I have only traced this pub back to 1874, the dates do line up that perhaps this pub was called something different before that year, or perhaps it opened then.

The Inns of Canterbury by Edward Wilmot's,1988, mentions a document, date circa 1945 that gives the description of clientele at the pub as being "Labouring and artisans."

In 1965 the City Council opposed a move to demolish the building for an extension of the Post Office Garages next door, but the pub closed its doors in 1966 and remained empty for at least the next 20 years.

An entry in Fremlin's 1950s publication called "Where shall we go," indicated the following:- Parking accommodation - 2 Coaches. Lunch - 60 All catering done at nearby restaurant. Tea - 60 all catering done by nearby restaurant. Remarks - Piano and Club room available. 10 minutes from Cathedral. The old-fashioned game of Bat and Trap may be played on lawn. No accommodation for Children.

 

From the Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald. 24 March 1900. Price 1d.

SUDDEN DEATH OF A WOMAN AT CANTERBURY.

The City Coroner (Dr. T. S. Johnson) held an inquest at the “Two Brothers,” Northgate, Canterbury, on Saturday, touching the death of a woman named Maria Walker, a spinster, aged 47.

John Curtis, a peddler, living at 4. St. Gregory's Square, deposed that he had cohabited with the deceased for about seventeen years The deceased was a spinster to the best of witnesses knowledge. Witness met the deceased at London about seventeen years ago. Between eight and nine o'clock on the morning of the 13th March they took their baskets out. They had not been far when deceased said she did not feel very well, so they went into the “Unity” public house and had a pint of beer between them. They had another pint and then they went on again. When going through the Friars the deceased came over ill again, and they went into the “King's Arms” and had several pints of beer there. Witness stayed there for half an hour with the deceased, but as she said she did not feel any better he left her there and went up Wincheap. When he came back in the evening after his day's work the deceased was still in the house, but had nothing in front of her to drink. They had another drink and then they went back to the “Unity.” He might have spent 2s. 6d. at the “King's Arms.” At the “Unity” they had another pint. As they were passing the Methodist Chapel the deceased fell down and P.C. Reynolds, who was near, came to witness' assistance. The deceased said she felt a “bit bad” and witness gave her some beer. They got along some distance when the deceased again fell down and witness then got her two-pennyworth of brandy from the “Victoria.” After drinking the brandy the deceased said the felt better and witness got her home to the door of the house in St. Gregory's Square where they lodged, when the deceased fell down, apparently dead.

P.C. Reynolds gave evidence as to assisting the deceased up at about twenty minutes to nine o'clock on the evening in question. The man was perfectly sober, but the woman smelt somewhat of drink.

Mr. Brian Rigden stated that he was called to see the deceased on the 15th inst, at 9.30 in the evening. On arrival he found the deceased lying on the bed dead. He had since made a careful external examination and did not find any marks of violence. He was of opinion that death was due to natural causes, probably heart disease. The deceased had been in the habit of drinking, and he did not consider that that was the cause of death.

The Coroner summed up, and in doing so spoke of the matter as appearing to him to be a "drinking affair.”

The jury returned a verdict in accordance with the medical evidence.

From the Historic Canterbury web site. Circa 1900.

Joseph William Green.

Are you the landlord of the house called the "Two Brothers"?

Yes.

In Northgate Street?

In Northgate Street. Were there a good many voters at your place on the election day last April?

Well, casually, possibly so.

Was it a committee room?

Yes.

For the Conservatives or the Liberals?

For the Conservatives......

At either of those elections have you either given or taken money yourself?

No, neither the one nor the other.

 

(His daughter Florence is a teacher of music)

 

According to the notes of "Poems of Canterbury" this pub was the "Spread Eagle" and changed name in about 1870. However, I believe it was the "Prince Regent" that changed name to the "Spread Eagle" and not this one.

The census of 1871 identifies Joseph William Green as living there and gave his profession as a Clothier and Pawnbroker age 29, living with his wife age 28 and 2 children in Northgate near the "Spread Eagle. The 1881 address says they were living at 91 Northgate, which is this address.

 

LICENSEE LIST

GREEN Joseph William 1874-1913+ (age 65 in 1911Census) Post Office Directory 1874Post Office Directory 1882Post Office Directory 1891Post Office Directory 1903Kelly's 1903Post Office Directory 1913

MOORE William S 1922+ Post Office Directory 1922

WATERS Joseph J 1930+ Post Office Directory 1930

WILLEY E J 1938+ Post Office Directory 1938

https://pubwiki.co.uk/TwoBrothers.shtml

http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/twobrothers.html

 

Post Office Directory 1874From the Post Office Directory 1874

CensusCensus

Post Office Directory 1882From the Post Office Directory 1882

Post Office Directory 1891From the Post Office Directory 1891

Post Office Directory 1903From the Post Office Directory 1903

Kelly's 1903From the Kelly's Directory 1903

Post Office Directory 1913From the Post Office Directory 1913

Post Office Directory 1922From the Post Office Directory 1922

Post Office Directory 1930From the Post Office Directory 1930

Post Office Directory 1938From the Post Office Directory 1938

Historic Canterbury web siteHistoric Canterbury web site www.machadoink.com

 

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