7-9 Little Fenchurch Street
Folkestone
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Although the picture above shows what is deemed to be the "Dew Drop Inn"
in Folkestone, I don't believe this is the actual image of the pub
itself, but just a drawing of a traditional pub as one would like to
visualise it. The 1936 postcard was kindly sent to me by Make Vernol who
was enquiring about whether the pub ever existed. It most certainly did,
but only between 1867 and 1875.
I have just been sent this postcard from Michael Coomber, and I think
that makes the point.
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Graham Butterworth kindly sent me this one as well, dated 1930, so it looks like the
company producing them had a central template and just added the
relevant pictures relating to the town around it.
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The first licensee, Joseph Bromley, originally from neighbouring public house
the "Bricklayer's Arms" decided
to leave that establishment and open the "Dew Drop" just down the road. Opening
a new beer-house and coming from the old there was of course a lot of rivalry
between the two pubs with fights from the drinkers and bad blood occurring
between the two houses till his departure in 1870. The following licensee, John
Johnson couldn't do much to remove the reputation the house had acquired and was
followed by Thomas Dunn who found the same problem. However, after Dunn had
departed in 1875, Godfrey Lepper, originally from the "Raglan"
and who was actually forcibly ejected from the premises after he refused to
surrender the licence when the pub was put up for sale in February 1867, took
the reins in 1867 and changed the name to the "George
III" soon after he gained licensee status.
The census of 1871 mention a James Marsh, age 59, addressed at the "Dew Drop
Inn," Fancy Street South, and whose occupation was given as a Public Lodging
House Keeper.
Folkestone Chronicle 29 August 1868.
Friday August 28th: Before the Mayor and J. Tolputt Esq.
Joseph Bromley, landlord of the Dew Drop Inn, Fancy Street, was summoned
for assaulting P.C. Hills in the execution of his duty. Mr. Minter
defended the case.
Complainant deposed that he was on duty in Fancy Street about half past
one o'clock on Friday morning in last week, and hearing a disturbance in
defendant's house he tried the door, which was immediately opened by
defendant, who said there were only lodgers there, although witness saw
Peel leave the room. Witness went in to look, and defendant asked what
business he had in there, adding “If you're not out, I'll put you out”.
He then struck witness on the chest and sent him out into the road.
Defendant and his two lodgers were the worse for liquor.
Cross-examined: Defendant followed me down the street, talking about
various subjects. For one thing, he was complaining of the conduct of
P.C. Smith. I did not attempt to go into a private room. When I got into
the house I did not say “Well, Jack, I've got you this time”, and
defendant did not reply “Well, hold me tight, then”. I did not stand at
the door and say “You won't push me out like you did my mate”. I was on
the pavement when he shut the door.
Mr. Minter, for the defence, denied that any assault had been committed.
It was very unpleasant to have to call in question the conduct of the
police, who had a difficult task, but here the policeman had exceeded
his duty. His tale was a strange one – that defendant ordered him out of
the house and then, pushing him out, walked down the street quietly
talking on various matters with him. Now, according to his instructions
complainant went into the house and began to taunt defendant, who, on
his going towards a private room, told him he had no business there.
Then complainant was leaving the house without finding anything to
complain of, for it was a well conducted house, he stood on the door
step and dared defendant to push him out. On the part of defendant he
denied any intention of committing an assault, and characterised the
affair as an attempt to get up a case.
William Pitt and William Wenham, lodgers in the house, who had been out
of court, stated distinctly that defendant neither pushed nor struck
complainant at all, and the Bench dismissed the case.
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Folkestone Express 29 August 1868.
Friday, August 28th: Before The Mayor and Alderman Tolputt.
James Bromley, landlord of the Dew Drop Inn, was charged with an assault
on a police constable in the execution of his duty. Mr. Minter appeared
for the defendant.
P.C. Hills said he was on duty in Fancy Street on Friday morning last,
about half past one o'clock, when he went to the defendant's house and
tried the door. Defendant opened it, and he then saw some men inside,
and he asked defendant what his little game was, and he answered “These
are all lodgers”. Asked him if he had a man named Peel lodging there; he
said he had not. Witness then looked in the rooms, but did not see
anyone. Defendant then said “You have no business in the house, and if
you do not go I will put you out”. Witness then went out, and afterwards
came back to the door, when he struck him on the breast, knocking him
into the street. He either struck a blow, or gave him a push; should
call it a blow himself.
Cross-examined: Defendant walked beside him a part of the way down the
street.
Mr. Minter: Then the defendant accompanied you down the street holding a
friendly conversation after the alleged assault took place?
Witness: No, he was talking about another constable.
Cross-examined: Did not try to go into a private room. Did not say “Now,
Jack, I have got you”, nor that “You will not throw me out, like you did
my mate”. There is no mark of the blow.
Mr. Minter said that he was instructed to deny that any assault had been
committed, and in the present case it was his duty to pint out that the
constable was greatly in error. In fact his own statement would show
that, and looking to the position of the place, and the size of the
defendant and the police constable, it was an almost impossible issue.
He also afterwards follows him, and a very friendly conversation takes
place, which did not seem as if they were on unfriendly terms, and he
wished to state that the defendant had not the slightest desire to
interfere with the duties of the police constable. He would call
witnesses:
William Pitt, smith, in the employment of Mr. Francis, who said he was
in the bar and saw the constable come in. He afterwards saw them go out.
Mr. Bromley then came round the counter and shut the door after him, and
he then told them to go to bed. Defendant was standing inside the
counter as Hills left the house.
William Wenham, cordwainer, the other lodger corroborated the previous
witness.
The Bench said the evidence was very conflicting, and the assault, if
committed, was a slight one, therefore the case is dismissed.
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Southeastern Gazette 31 August 1868.
Local News.
At the Police Court, on Friday, the Mayor and J. Tolputt, Esq., were
occupied for a long time in hearing a charge of assault, preferred by
P.C. Hills, against Mr. Bromley, landlord of the Dew Drop Inn, Fancy
Street.
According to the evidence of complainant he visited defendant’s house on
the previous Friday morning, when he found defendant and two his lodgers
only, and that on his leaving the house, defendant struck him, and
knocked him off the door step into the street.
According to the defendant’s story, however, which was supported by his
two lodgers, complainant came in taunting defendant, saying he had him,
and daring him to push him (complainant) out of his house, as his “chum”
had been served a few nights before. Both the lodgers declared that
defendant did not touch complainant, and the Bench dismissed the case.
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Folkestone Observer 10 October 1868.
Monday, October 5th: Before Captain Kennicott and Alderman Tolputt.
Henry Williams was charged with stealing a shawl, the property of Mr.
G.W. Brothers, at Foord, on the 3rd. Inst.
Mary Ann Standing said: I am a laundress and reside at Foord. On
Saturday I had a shawl to wash, which had been entrusted to me for that
purpose by Mrs. Brothers. It was a woollen shawl, striped with blue, the
pattern being a shepherd's plaid. I washed it and hung it out last
Saturday evening, between six and seven o'clock, on a line in my front
garden, facing the road. I went into the garden for the shawl about nine
o'clock, and it was then gone. I do not know the prisoner, and I did not
see him about the premises on Saturday. I did not see the shawl again
until yesterday when it was shown to me at the police station. The shawl
produced is the one I lost from the line, and the value of it is about
£1.
John Joseph Bromley said: I am a beerhouse keeper, and reside at the Dew
Drop Inn, Fancy Street. The prisoner came to my house last Saturday
evening about half past eight in company with another man. They asked if
Mrs. Bromley was at home. I said she was not, but would be in directly,
and asked them their business. The would not tell me, but waited until
my wife came in. The prisoner's companion, who was the spokesman, then
asked her if she wanted to buy a shawl. She declined doing so, but he
very much pressed her to see it, and told the prisoner to go and fetch
it. Prisoner left the house, and in about three minutes returned with
the shawl, which he gave to his companion and then walked into the tap
room. The other man showed the shawl to my wife, and asked her to give
7s. 6d. for it. She told him if he only wanted 1s. for it she would not
buy it, and while they were talking a policeman came in and went into
the tap room, upon which the man immediately threw down the shawl and
ran out of the house as fast as he could. I told the policeman about it
and he said “Who brought the shawl into the house?” The prisoner did not
deny it, and he was taken into custody.
P.C. Burchett said: From information I received I went to the house of
last witness on Saturday evening, and saw a man standing at the bar, and
on passing into the tap room, saw the prisoner there. A shawl was handed
to me by the wife of the last witness, and I asked the prisoner if he
knew anything about it. He said he did not. I asked him how he came by
it and he again said he knew nothing about it. I then took him in
custody and charged him with stealing the shawl, when he again said that
he knew nothing about it, but afterwards admitted that he went across to
the Bricklayers Arms and fetched a bundle for his mate. I kept the shawl
in my possession and brought the prisoner to the police station. The
shawl produced is the one that was given to me by the wife of the last
witness.
The Supt. Asked for a remand in order to procure the attendance of Mrs.
Brothers to identify the shawl, and the Bench accordingly remanded the
prisoner till Tuesday.
Tuesday, October 6th: Before Captain Kennicott and Alderman Tolputt.
Henry Williams, on remand, was again placed in the dock, charged with
stealing a shawl at Foord.
The evidence previously taken was read over, and Mr. Burrows, who was
present, was then asked to give evidence.
Mr. Burrows: What is it you wish me to do?
The Clerk: Simply to identify the shawl produced as your property, if it
is so.
Witness: I cannot do that. I believe the shawl to be mine; that is all
I can say.
Prisoner was again remanded.
The prisoner was brought up again on Friday, in company with the other
man mentioned in the evidence. The latter pleaded Guilty, and they were
each sentenced to three months' imprisonment.
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Folkestone Express 10 October 1868.
Monday, October 5th: Before Captain Kennicott R.N. and Alderman Tolputt.
Henry Williams was charged with stealing a shawl.
Mary Ann Standing, a laundress living at Foord, deposed that she washed
a shepherd's plaid woolen shawl on Saturday and hung it out in the front
garden to dry. This was between six and seven o'clock in the evening;
about nine o'clock she missed it. She did not know the prisoner, nor had
she seen him about. She saw the shawl on Monday morning at the police
station. Mr. Martin showed it to her. The shawl produced is the same
one; she knew it by the border. She should think it worth £1.
James Bromley, landlord of the Dew Drop Inn, Fancy Street, said the
prisoner and another man came to his house on Saturday evening at half
past eight. They asked if they could see Mrs. Bromley, but he said she
was not at home. She afterwards came in, when the prisoner's companion
asked her if she wished to buy a shawl. She answered no. He (the other
man) told prisoner to go across and fetch it. He went out, and shortly
afterwards returned with it. It was offered to witness' wife for 7s.
6d., but she refused to purchase it. P.C. Burchett then came in the
front door and looked into the tap room. The man in front of the bar
immediately dropped the shawl and ran off. They told the policeman that
the man in the tap room had brought the shawl and he immediately took
him into custody. The prisoner did not then deny the theft.
P.C. Burchett said he was on duty in Fancy Street on Saturday between
eight and nine o'clock in the evening, when he received some information
from the landlord of the Dew Drop Inn which induced him to go there. He
told him that a man had brought a shawl there for sale. He went into the
tap room; he saw the prisoner there and took him into custody. The
prisoner denied knowing anything about it. He afterwards owned up to
having fetched a bundle from the Bricklayers' Arms for his mate. He then
took him to the police station.
Mr. Martin applied for a remand, which was granted.
Tuesday, October 6th: Before Captain Kennicott R.N. and Alderman Tolputt.
Henry Williams was again brought up.
Mr. Brothers said he believed that the shawl was his property, but he
objected to swear to it, as there may be 500 shawls of the same pattern;
in fact he did not believe Mrs. Brothers would know it.
The Bench thought it extraordinary that they did not know their own
property. They then cautioned the prisoner and asked him if he had
anything to say.
Prisoner said he was not guilty, and he was not in front of the bar, and
did not know any of the transactions that were going on. He wished to
call Mrs. Bromley as a witness.
The Bench said as she was not present they would have to adjourn the
case till Friday.
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Folkestone Observer 24 October 1868.
Quarter Sessions.
Monday, October 19th: Before J.J. Lonsdale Esq.
Richard Lamb, 32, shoemaker, was indicted for stealing one hammer, one
peg knife, two forepart irons, one channel pump iron, and a piece of
leather, value 10s., the property of John Bromley, at Folkestone, on the
5th of October.
Pleaded Not Guilty.
John Bromley, shoemaker, said he knew the prisoner at the bar. He was in
his employ about three weeks. On the morning of the 5th of Oct. he left
him in the shop at work, and on returning the prisoner was gone. The
door was locked, and on bursting it open, found the key on the floor of
the room, apparently as thrown through a broken pane of glass, and then
missed the articles named in the indictment. Prosecutor went to Deal in
search of the prisoner, and found him there and gave him in charge. He
then denied knowing anything about the tools or leather. He went to the
Deal Barracks, where prisoner had obtained work, and there found the
missing tools.
By the prisoner: You did not tell me that you were going to seek for
better employment. You said before the magistrates that the tools did
belong to me and that you took them, but I had got some of yours.
Sergeant John Reynolds said he received the prisoner from the custody of
the Supt. at Deal, and charged him with stealing the tools in question.
He replied that he did take them, and Bromley had got some of his. He
knew nothing about the leather.
The jury, without hesitation, returned a verdict of Guilty.
He was sentenced to three calendar months imprisonment with hard labour.
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Folkestone Express 20 March 1869.
Saturday, March 13th: Before J. Gambrill and R.W. Boarer Esqs.
William Henry Wenham was charged with being drunk and riotous, and using
obscene language.
P.C. Ovenden said: This morning about quarter past twelve I was on duty
at the bottom of Seagate Street, standing opposite Mr. Jordan's in
company with P.S. Reynolds. The prisoner went to the door of Mr.
Jordan's house, the South Foreland, and knocked, but was refused
admission. P.S. Reynolds then advised him to go home, and he walked a
short distance up the street, and turned round and said “I don't care
for you b---- bobbies. If you run you can't catch me”. He then ran away,
and we went after him. He was then stopped by P.C. Smith at the bottom
of the steps leading to Saffron's Row. He was quite drunk, and when
ordered home made a great noise. He could run very well.
P.C. Smith said: I heard prisoner use the language Ovenden has repeated.
I was standing at the bottom of Dover Street.
The prisoner said he never made use of such language, and had not been
in trouble before. He had resided in the town now eight or nine months,
and when he first came here lodged at Mr. Bromley's, the Dew Drop, Fancy
Street. He was brought up as a witness when Mr. Bromley was summoned for
assaulting a police constable. Since that the police had threatened to
lock him up several times. On the night in question he was coming down
the street when he saw a policeman talking to a man at the bottom of
High Street. This man came to prisoner and asked him for some beer; he
accordingly knocked at the door of Mr. Jordan's, but could not get in.
He did not know the man, and should not have tried to get the beer, only
he was drunk at the time.
The Bench said the prisoner admitted being drunk, and as it was the
first time any complaint had been made against him, he must pay a
nominal fine of 1s. and 5s. 6d. costs, or seven days' imprisonment. The
fine was paid.
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Folkestone Chronicle 8 May 1869.
Tuesday May 4th: Before J. Gambrill and J. Tolputt Esqs.
James Seddons was brought up in custody, charged with using abusive
language towards John Bromley on the 3rd inst., in Fancy Street, and
putting him in fear of his life.
Mr. Minter, who appeared for complainant, said he was landlord of the
Dew Drop Inn, Fancy Street, said that on the previous day, in
consequence of a dispute about money between complainant and defendant's
mother, the defendant came to his house and made a great disturbance,
challenging him to fight, promising to smash his head, and said that the
first time he caught him outside he would kill him. In consequence of
what had transpired, complainant went in bodily fear of his life, and
asked that defendant might be bound over to keep the peace towards him.
He called John Bromley, the complainant, who said: Defendant came to my
house yesterday afternoon about a quarter to two, and spoke about an
application I made to his mother for a debt. She owes me money for
shoes. He threatened to smash mu big head (with an oath). I told him to
go out, and a mob of thirty or forty people assembled. He repeated his
statement outside. He went away a few yards, and coming back again, said
he would do for me. From the threats used I fear he will do me some
bodily injury.
Cross-examined: You said I had insulted your mother. You did not say if
I did not let your mother alone you would summon me. You did say “I'll
smash your head”.
William Cockett said he was in Fancy Street at the time of the
disturbance, and corroborated the language used by defendant.
Cornelius O'Leary was called, but not examined.
This was the case.
Prisoner said he did not say he would smash Bromley's head, but he would
punch it. He wanted a stop put to the nuisance his mother was subject to
every time she passed complainant, who asked for money he said she owed
him.
The Bench said if his mother was insulted, he had a remedy in court. He
could not be allowed to make a disturbance. The charge of using
threatening language was proved, and prisoner would be bound over in his
own security of £20 to keep the peace for three months.
Note: More Bastions lists landlord as Joseph Bromley.
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Folkestone Observer 8 May 1869.
Tuesday, May 4th: Before J. Tolputt and J. Gambrill Esqs.
James Seddon, on a warrant, was charged with using threatening language
to John Bromley on the 3rd instant.
John Bromley, landlord of the Dew Drop Inn, Fancy Street, said: Prisoner
came to his house yesterday about a quarter to two. Witness made a
remark about a debt which was due from his mother. He then threatened to
smash witness's big head, after which he went out of doors. There was a
mob collected around the door. When out of doors prisoner again
threatened to smash his head. In consequence of these threats he laid an
information against him. Cockett was in the house at the time.
By the prisoner: You did not say “If you don't leave mother alone I
shall summons you”. You did say you would smash my head.
William Cockett was in the house of the prosecutor on the day in
question. Heard prisoner say “If you insult my mother I will smash your
head”.
The prisoner said he would like a stop put to the nuisance of the
prosecutor insulting his mother. Every time she passed by his house she
was stopped or insulted about some money for shoes.
The Bench said it appeared that prisoner had assaulted Bromley, and he
must therefore be bound over in the sum of £20 to keep the peace for
three months. The Bench also reminded him that there was a remedy if his
mother was insulted.
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Folkestone Express 8 May 1869.
Tuesday, May 4th: Before J. Gambrill and J. Tolputt Esqs.
James Seddon was brought up on a warrant, charged with using threatening
language. Mr. Minter appeared for the plaintiff, and stated the case.
John Bromley said: I keep the Dew Drop Inn, Fancy Street. The defendant
came to my house yesterday afternoon about quarter to one o'clock, and
made some remark about an application I had made to his mother for a
debt due to me, and he said he would smash my b---- head if I came out
of the house. I ordered him out, but he would not go, and a crowd of 30
or 40 people assembled. He then repeated the threat and went away, but
came back shortly afterwards and said the first time he saw me out he
would give me a thrashing and smash my head. I am afraid he will do me
some injury if he would meet me in the streets.
By the defendant: You said when you came to the house I had insulted
your mother. You did not say you had come to caution me.
William Cockett was called and said: I heard the defendant say “If you
insult my mother, I'll smash your head”, and I also heard him challenge
the plaintiff to come outside.
The Bench said they must bind the defendant over in the sum of £20 to
keep the peace for three months.
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Folkestone Chronicle 15 May 1869.
Tuesday May 11th: Before Captain Kennicott R.N., J. Gambrill, and A.M.
Leith esqs.
William Peel was summoned for assaulting John Bromley on the 30th April.
Pleaded not guilty.
Mr. Minter appeared for plaintiff, but said the information was taken
out without his advice, and as he knew the charge could not be
substantiated, so as to bring it home to the defendant, by his (Mr.
Minter's) advice the summons would be withdrawn. He would, however,
state the case to the Bench, who would probably tell the defendant that
he must not allow anything of the kind to be done. Complainant had for
many years occupied a room under the Bricklayer's Arms in Fancy Street,
as a workshop for shoemaking, and defendant, who keeps the Bricklayer's
Arms has lately felt annoyed because complainant has opened an
opposition establishment, the Dew Drop Inn, a respectable house a little
higher up, on the upper side of the street, and is jealous of the good
business done by complainant. Complainant has, for some time, been
annoyed at his work, and there was no moral doubt that defendant was the
instigator of them. Sometimes chamber utensils were emptied down, so
that the water would percolate through into the workshop. Another time a
stream of boiling water would pour down onto complainant. It would be
impossible to prove that defendant had committed these acts himself; he
should ask permission to withdraw the summons, and advise complainant,
if the annoyance continued, to sue defendant for damages in the County
Court. He might remark that the parties had often been to the court
before; complainant, always as complainant, preferring too seek
protection from the Bench, rather than take the law into his own hands.
Defendant said he never saw complainant on 30th April. It was only a
poor old woman had the misfortune to upset her tea pot.
The Bench told defendant he was undoubtedly the cause of the annoyance,
and warned him to be careful.
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Folkestone Observer 15 May 1869.
Tuesday, May 11th: Before Captain Kennicott R.N., J. Gambrill and A.M.
Leith Esqs.
William Peel was charged with assaulting William Bromley on the 30th
April.
It appeared that the defendant kept the Bricklayer's Arms, Fancy Street,
and the plaintiff hired a room below to carry on his trade as shoemaker.
He had also recently opened a public house named the Dew Drop, in
rivalry to the Bricklayer's Arms. The complainant said defendant had
emptied hot water &c. on the floor above, so that it dropped through
into his shop beneath, but he brought forward no evidence.
Defendant said all that was done was the upsetting of a teapot on the
fender by his wife.
The Bench dismissed the charge.
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Folkestone Express 15 May 1869.
Tuesday, April 11th: Before Captain Kennicott R.N., A.M. Leith and J.
Gambrill Esqs.
George Peel was charged with assaulting John Bromley on the 30th of
April last.
Mr. Minter, who appeared for the complainant, said the summons had been
taking out without consulting him, and he found, on looking over the
evidence, that they would not be able to bring the charge home to the
defendant. It appears that for many years the plaintiff has occupied a
room under the Bricklayers' Arms, Fancy Street, which belongs to the
defendant. Bromley has thought proper to open a house called The Dew
Drop in the same street, and from that some sort of jealousy has existed
between them, and there was no moral doubt that the defendant was the
instigator, if not the actual perpetrator, of the offence for which he
was summoned. While plaintiff has been at work in the said room, the
contents of chamber utensils, and at other times hot water, have been
poured down on him from the room above. This, no doubt, irritated the
plaintiff, and he at once took out the summons. His (Mr. Minter's)
advice was to withdraw the summons, leaving it to the discretion of the
Bench to tell the defendant that he is not entitled to do this thing
himself, or allow others to do it, and he would advise the plaintiff
that should the offence be repeated he must issue a summons against him
in the County Court.
The defendant: It was only a poor old woman who had the misfortune to
upset a teapot.
The Bench cautioned the defendant to be more careful in the future, and
dismissed the summons.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer,
28 May, 1869. Price 1d.
FELONY AT FOLKESTONE
An application was made by Police-constable Swain, of the Folkestone
police, to remove two prisoners, John Wallace and Sarah Wallace, who had
been apprehended at Dover on a charge of having stolen a quantity of
clothes and other articles from the "Dew Drop" public-house, Folkestone.
The application was granted, and the prisoners were accordingly removed
in Swain's custody.
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Folkestone Observer 29 May 1869.
Tuesday, May 25th: Before R.W. Boarer and J. Gambrill Esqs.
John and Sarah Wallace, man and wife, were severally charged with
stealing a pair of boots, a petticoat, and a pair of sheets, on the 22nd
inst.
John Bromley, landlord of the Dew Drop Inn, Fancy Street, said the
prisoners had hired a furnished room at his house for some weeks since.
On Saturday morning last they left the house before he was up. Did not
know they were going to leave. After they were gone he went into the
room and found it in confusion, and he then missed a pair of sheets from
the bed in which the prisoners slept, also a bundle containing a pair of
shoes and a coloured petticoat. This was about nine o'clock in the
morning. The petticoat and shoes were in a cupboard in the bar. From
what he heard he went to Dover by the 6-30 p.m. train on Saturday, when
he saw Mr. Wallace near the station. Asked him if he was not ashamed of
himself for leaving as he did, and he (prisoner) said it was all through
the drink, but if he (witness) would forgive him he would make it all
right. The prisoner then walked with him up Snargate Street, and he gave
prisoner into the custody of Supt. Coram, and charged him with stealing
the articles. Prisoner said he knew nothing about them. Prisoner did not
know that he was going to the police station; he thought he was going to
have something to drink. He then went in company with a policeman to the
Lord Raglan beershop, Biggin Street, where they found the female
prisoner. The policeman charged her with stealing the articles, and she
said the sheets were left on the chair, and that the other property
never belonged to him. Did not know what she meant by that. The
constable took her into custody, and on being again charged at the
police station she said she knew nothing about it, and that witness was
a wicked man to say such things. He saw the skirt and shoes at Mr.
Hart's previous to his going to Dover. They were shown to him by William
Hart. He could not swear to the articles as there was no mark on them,
but he believed they were his property. He bought the boots and skirt of
Mrs. Wallace, and gave her 4s. for them, the reason for selling them
being that she wished to send some money home to her mother, who was
ill. After he bought the boots he placed them in a cupboard in the bar
which was not locked. The lodgers were in the habit of going through the
bar to go to their work. When he bought them he told prisoner she might
have them at any time on her giving him the money. He valued the
articles lost at 10s. Had been in the habit of lending money, as much as
11s.
Cross-examined: The reason he had never acquainted the male prisoner was
that he (prisoner) had not previously interfered with his wife's
affairs.
William Hart said he was an assistant to Hart and Company. He knew the
female prisoner. She came to the shop on the 18th of May to pledge the
boots and petticoat, and asked him to lend her 3s. on them, which he
did. The articles were pawned in the name of Wallace. Prosecutor came to
the shop on Saturday evening and witness showed him the property, which
he said was his property.
P.C. Swain said he went to Dover on Monday morning, and received the
prisoners from the borough magistrates. On charging them with stealing
the articles the male prisoner made no remark, but the female prisoner
said she would not say anything then. The property found on them were
two pawn tickets relating to the goods produced.
Mary Ann Bromley, wife of the prosecutor, said the prisoners had lodged
at their house and left last Saturday morning. Saw Mrs. Wallace on the
stairs at about half past seven. She discovered that the prisoners had
left the house between twelve and one. At that time her husband called
her to the prisoners' room where she discovered the sheets were missing
from the bed. She had seen the sheets there the night previous. They had
a great many lodgers in the houses that night; they might have had a
dozen. (By the Bench: They occupied three houses. The prisoner had a
furnished room there. There was no lock on the door, and the other
lodgers might get into the room without her knowledge.) Witness sold the
female prisoner a skirt a week last Saturday, the price of which was 3s.
7d., the same as was paid for it by witness. Did not know anything about
the boots.
Mr. Boarer said it was quite right that the prisoners should be brought
there, but as there was a doubt in the matter the prisoners must be
discharged.
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Folkestone Express 29 May 1869.
Tuesday, April 25th: Before J. Gambrill and R.W. Boarer Esqs.
John Wallis, and Sarah Wallis, his wife, were charged with stealing a
pair of sheets, and a bundle containing a pair of boots and a woollen
skirt, the property of John Bromley, The Dew Drop Inn, Fancy Street.
The prosecutor was called, and said: The prisoners lodged at my house.
The male prisoner had been there about seven weeks, and the female
prisoner about one month. They left last Saturday morning before I was
up. I did not know they were going to leave. I missed the sheets from a
bedroom they had slept in. I missed the bundle containing a pair of
shoes and a shirt from a cupboard in the bar. I sent a young man down to
Mr. Hart's, the pawnbroker, to see if he could find the articles, and
from information I received I went to Dover by the 6-20 train to see if
I could find Mr. and Mrs. Wallis. I saw Mr. Wallis close against the
station, and he began crying and asked if I would forgive him. I told
him he ought to be ashamed of himself for leaving me in the way he had.
He answered it was through drink, and if I would forgive him he would
make things all right. He walked with me up Snargate Street, and I gave
him in charge for the robbery. I took him to the station; he thought he
was going into a public house to have something to drink. Mr. Coram
charged him with the theft, and he said he knew nothing about it. A
policeman went with me up to the Lord Raglan, in Biggin Street, to
search for the female prisoner; we found her there. The police constable
charged her with stealing the sheets, and she said she left the things
on a chair in the bedroom. He then charged her with stealing the other
things, and asked her where the bundle was. She said they were her own,
and never belonged to me. I don't know what she meant by that. In fact,
I did not take much notice of what she did say, as she talked “nineteen
to the dozen”. The constable took her into custody and took her to the
police station. She said I was a very wicked man. I saw the shirt and
shoes at Mr. Hart's on the Saturday before. I could not sweat that the
things produced are those, but they look like some that did belong to
me. I bought them of Mrs. Wallis for 4s. She said she wanted that sum to
send to her mother at Brighton; that was on Monday week. I put them in a
cupboard in the bar that was not locked. They have to pass through the
bar every morning to go to work. I told the woman that I would give her
the things back if she gave me the money on the following Saturday
night. I value the things at 10s.
The prisoners said they bought the things in the bundle of Mrs. Bromley,
and the sheets were left in the bedroom.
William Hart deposed to being an assistant at Mr. Phillip Hart's,
pawnbroker. The female prisoner pawned the bundle produced on the 18th
of May for 3s.
P.C. Swain said he took them into custody at Dover and charged them with
the offence. The male prisoner said “I know nothing about it”, and the
female prisoner said “I shall say nothing now”.
Mrs. Mary Ann Bromley said: The last time I saw Mrs. Wallis was at half
past seven; she was then going upstairs. I discovered they had left the
house about twelve o'clock. My husband called me upstairs. I went into
their room and missed a pair of sheets from the bed. I saw them there a
day before; nothing else was missed. I know nothing about the bundle. I
sold that skirt to Mrs. Wallis. The bedroom could not be locked; it had
a fastening on the inside. We have three houses, and we lodge 12 at a
time in them. The female prisoner gave me 3s. 7d. for the skirt. I know
nothing about the shoes.
The Bench discharged the case as there was not enough evidence to
convict the prisoners. If the sheets were found they would be brought up
again.
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Folkestone Chronicle 17 July 1869.
Quarter Sessions.
Friday July 16th: Before J.J. Lonsdale Esq.
George Beaumont, John M'Donald and Ann Arian, tramps, were charged with
stealing on the 15th July, two blue guernseys, two pairs of boots, pair
blue cloth trousers, black shawl, pair stays, flannel petticoat, pair of
drawers, and a frock, value £1 7s., the property of John Hart, and on
another indictment were charged with feloniously receiving the same,
knowing them to have been stolen. The woman pleaded guilty of stealing;
the men not guilty to both counts.
The prisoners had been committed by the magistrates at an early sitting
on the same day.
John Hart, a mariner living in North Street, said: Yesterday morning I
left my house at five minutes to six o'clock. The goods produced were
then in the front room downstairs. The door was shut, but not locked. I
returned to breakfast at eight o'clock, and I then learned that they
were missing. I next saw them in the hands of the police.
John Bromley, landlord of the Dew Drop Inn, lodging house and beerhouse
in Fancy Street said the male prisoners lodged at his house on Wednesday
night. On Thursday morning, about ten o'clock, the woman came into the
bar for some drink, and the men spoke to her as though they were not
strangers. She went out again, and soon returned with a large bundle,
which M'Donald asked witness to take care of. The police afterwards came
and took possession of the bundle, and apprehended the prisoners on
their return.
Cross-examined by Beaumont: You got up about half past nine o'clock. I
don't know that you were in the bar when the bundle was brought in. None
of the prisoners looked at the clothes.
P.C. Sharpe deposed to apprehending the woman and Beaumont at the Dew
Drop Inn, and M'Donald at the bottom of Fancy Street. M'Donald was
playing on a brass instrument, and had a barrow of children's toys, rags
bones and boots with him. The boots produced were taken from off the
man's feet, and the shawl from the woman.
The statement of the prisoners before the magistrates was read. Arian
had nothing to say. M'Donald said they met the woman the day before on
the road from Dover, and left her because she was too drunk to come
along. She gave him the boots. Beaumont concurred in this statement.
His Honour then summed up decidedly against the prisoners, and the jury
returned a verdict against the two male prisoners of Guilty of receiving
the goods, knowing them to have been stolen, and the learned Recorder in
passing sentence said the two men were a couple of cowards, who very
likely had incited the woman to plead guilty in the hope of themselves
escaping, but he would punish them more severely than the woman, for he
should sentence her to three months' hard labour for stealing, and them
to six months each for receiving the goods.
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Folkestone Express 21 August 1869.
Tuesday, August 17th: Before The Mayor, Captain Kennicott R.N., and J.
Clark Esq.
Alfred Millett was charged with maliciously and wilfully destroying a
pane of glass at the Dew Drop, Fancy Street, on Monday last.
Mr. John Bromley said: I keep the Dew Drop beerhouse. Prisoner came to
my house at half past ten o'clock last night. I was going from the bar
to the tap room with a pint of beer. Prisoner rushed after and struck
me; I was taken unawares. He then turned round and smashed the windows
and pulled the brass rods out, put in to protect the glass. The damage
amounted to 6s. 6d., as the glass had some writing on it. I detained
him, and gave him into custody. He was not sober.
The prisoner hoped the Bench would be a little lenient with him, as he
had never been locked up before in his life.
The Bench ordered him to pay the damage done, and expenses amounting to
11s., or be imprisoned for a fortnight.
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Folkestone Chronicle 28 August 1869.
Monday August 23rd: Before S. Eastes, J. Tolputt and J. Clark Esqs.
William Peel, landlord of the Bricklayer's Arms, Fancy Street, was
summoned for maliciously injuring certain tools, the property of John
Bromley, of the Dew Drop Inn, in the same street. Mr. Minter appeared
for the complainant, and Mr. Creery, of Ashford, for the defendant.
Mr. Minter said the injury to the tools was small, but the annoyance,
inconvenience, and damage, consequent on the conduct of defendant was
considerable, and necessitated this application to the Bench. The facts
of the case were that complainant rents, and has for several years past
occupied a room under defendant's house as a shoemaker's shop, and as
both parties keep similar establishments – lodging houses – with the
same class of customers, there was a certain amount of rivalry between
them. Plaintiff on going to his work has found the place flooded with
water, the tools and work spoiled, and the room altogether
uninhabitable, so that his men refused to work any longer, and his
business was being destroyed. A few weeks ago defendant was summoned for
pouring hot water through on the complainant, and the excuse was that an
old woman had upset her teapot. The 51st sect. of the 24th and 25th
Vic., cap. 97, rendered defendant liable to three or five years' penal
servitude, or not less than two years' imprisonment with hard labour,
and the 52nd sect., under which the information was laid, rendered him
liable to a penalty of £5, or two months' imprisonment. He would only
call sufficient evidence to justify the case, and ask for a remand, and
a summons to be issued against James M'Donald, an important witness who
had absconded.
Complainant said on the 18th instant he left his shop about nine o'clock
in the evening, and on going to it next morning found the place soaked
in water, work spoiled, and tools rusted. The expense of putting them
right would be about 2s. The same thing had happened before.
Cross-examined: The tools cost about 12s. M'Donald was a tailor who
lodged at his house before the 17th instant. He left and went to lodge
at defendant's. He had told him that he saw a man named Johnson turn on
the tap of the boiler, and defendant said “Scald him out of it”. There
were twenty others in the room. He had traced Johnson to Canterbury, and
heard that he said he was not coming there to get paid for his time,
when he could get pounds to stay away.
James Neale, a cordwainer who worked for complainant, deposed to the
state of the workshop through the water that was continually running
through from the room above, so that he refused to work any longer.
Mr. Minter then applied for an adjournment for a week, so as to procure
M'Donald's attendance. It would have been no use to call any of the
others that were in the room, for they were strangers, and some of them
were fined by the Bench the other day for annoying complainant.
The adjournment was granted, the question of costs being reserved.
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Southeastern Gazette 30 August 1869.
Local News.
William Peel, the landlord of the Bricklayers’ Arms, was summoned on
Monday last by John Bromley, the landlord of the Dewdrop Inn, both
houses being situated in Fancy Street. Mr. Minter appeared for
plaintiff, and Mr. Creery for the defendant.
It appeared from the evidence that the plaintiff hired a room of the
defendant to carry on his business as a shoemaker The room was let on a
lease, but since the plaintiff had opened a beerhouse in opposition to
the defendant, the latter had instituted a series of petty annoyances,
such as pouring water down on the plaintiff from the room above.
Plaintiff could not bring the charge home to the defendant, but got a
lodger of his, named McDonald, to go and lodge at defendant’s house and
watch what was going on. This lodger informed the plaintiff that Mr.
Peel instigated a man to turn a tap on when the defendant was at work,
hence the present proceedings.
It was now stated that the important witness to prove the case,
McDonald, had kept out of the way, and it was surmised that he had been
bribed to do so by the defendant or his friends. Mr. Minter applied for
an adjournment on these grounds. Mr. Creery opposed, as he said it was a
trumped-up charge, and if Mr. Bromley had intended to persevere he could
have called other witnesses who were in the room at the time.
The magistrates, however, decided to grant an adjournment for a week.
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Folkestone Observer 11 September 1869.
Wednesday, September 8th: Before Capt. Kennicott R.N., James Tolputt,
A.M. Leith and W. Bateman Esqs.
William Peel, on remand, was again charged with doing damage to Mr.
Bromley's property.
The complainant applied for another adjournment as he had met with a
severe accident and had been unable to procure the witness Johnson.
Mr. Towne, Margate, opposed the adjournment as he said the accident
spoken of was caused by plaintiff's own misconduct, and the accident had
nothing to do with the case.
The Bench, after a consultation, said when a case was brought before
them the means of proving the case must be procured. They now declined
to adjourn and dismissed the case.
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Folkestone Chronicle 11 September 1869.
Police: During the week there have been some cases before the Bench,
chiefly arising from the rivalry between the Dew Drop Inn and the
Bricklayer's Arms.
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Folkestone Observer 11 September 1869.
Thursday, September 9th: Before Captain Kennicott R.N., and James
Tolputt Esq.
Thomas Drew was charged with using threatening language to George
Bromley on the 8th instant.
George Bromley said he lived at Dover, and was at his son's house dining
on Wednesday. When in the private room prisoner came in and said “What
do you think about it now?”. His son said “I have nothing to say to you.
The best thing for you to do is to leave the house”. He said he would
not for his son or witness, and used most filthy language. When in the
street he said he would knock witness's brains out. On witness saying he
would send for the police he used most filthy language. From these
threats he went in bodily fear of prisoner. There was nothing said about
a handkerchief. He did not know the man at all.
John Bromley, son of the last witness, gave corroborative evidence,
adding that a man came across from Peel's and threw a pint pot at his
head some days ago. He put up his hand and cut his thumb frightfully.
The Bench said the offence was of so serious a nature that they must
bind prisoner over to keep the peace in the sum of £5, and a householder
in the sum of £5 for 3 months.
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Folkestone Express 11 September 1869.
Thursday, September 9th: Before Captain Kennicott R.N. and James Tolputt
Esq.
Thomas Drew, hatter, was charged with using threatening language towards
Mr. George Bromley senr.
The prisoner said he was only charged with this out of spite.
Mr. Minter appeared for the prosecutor and detailed the circumstances of
the case. It appeared that the prisoner had been lodging at Mr.
Bromley's, the Dew Drop, Fancy Street, and going home after the case had
been heard on the previous day, the man went to Mr. Peel's. He then came
into Bromley's while they were at dinner and used the language the
witnesses would describe. There was no spite on Mr. Bromley's part, as
he was quite prepared to hear the decision of the court the previous
day.
He called George Bromley senr., who said he lived at Dover, and was
dining at his son's house yesterday, when the prisoner came in and said
“What do you think of it now?”. His son answered “I want nothing to say
to you. The best thing you can do is to go out of my house”. He used
most filthy language, and said he would not. He then went into the
street, and said to witness he would knock his b---- brains out. He
repeated this threat, and witness sent for a policeman. Not a word was
said about a handkerchief. Witness did not know the man.
John Bromley was then sworn and deposed to the truth of the above
statement. A man came from Mr. Peel's house and threw a pot at his head
a week ago. He warded it off with his hand and it cut his thumb in a
very dangerous manner.
The Bench bound the prisoner over to keep the peace, himself in £5, and
a householder in £5, for three months.
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Folkestone Chronicle 11 December 1869.
Wednesday, December 8th: Before R.W. Boarer, J. Clark, and C.H. Dashwood
Esqs.
Joseph Smith and William Smith, two tramps, were charged with being
drunk and riotous in Little Fancy Street: pleaded not guilty: being
further charged with resisting P.C. Sutton in the execution of his duty,
they pleaded not guilty.
P.C. Sutton said from information received he went to the Dew Drop Inn,
Fancy Street, about nine o'clock last evening. He found Bromley putting
prisoners, who were very drunk, outside the house. They laid down in the
yard and witness desired them to go home. They went away and returned
immediately, and tried to get into the house again, and made a great
noise, shouting and using all sorts of bad language. Witness, with the
assistance of the landlord, succeeded in getting them away to the
station. William Smith resisted very violently.
Joseph said he couldn't remember seeing a policeman. They couldn't be
very drunk, for they only had four pots of beer among four of 'em, but
they had no beer lately, and it got over them.
William said he remembered seeing the policeman in the house when they
went back for the money they paid for lodgings. He was sorry he had
given this trouble. As for resisting the police, he couldn't walk down
the street, for it was so steep and stoney, and the constable dragged
him down.
Joseph was fined 5s. and 3s. 6d. costs and allowed a week to pay – in
default, seven days.
William was sent for seven days without hard labour for being drunk and
riotous, and fourteen days additional, with hard labour, for resisting
the police.
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Folkestone Express 11 December 1869.
Wednesday, December 8th: Before R.W. Boarer, C. Dashwood and J. Clark
Esqs.
Joseph Smith and William Smith were charged with being drunk and
riotous, and the latter prisoner with assaulting the police.
P.C. Sutton deposed that he went to the Dew Drop Inn, in Fancy Street,
and kept by Mr. Bromley, on Tuesday evening, and turned the prisoners
out of the house. William Smith went as far as the bottom of the street,
but afterwards turned and commenced abusing Mr. Bromley. As they would
not go away, he took them into custody, and with the assistance of
Bromley, brought them to the police station. The prisoner William Smith
laid down in the road and kicked.
William Smith made a rambling defence, in which he alleged that the
police constable was in the bar drinking when he came in, and that the
landlord of the house had challenged them to fight for half a crown, all
of them being drunk together.
Joseph Smith said he had earned 1s. 6d. carrying coal, and he supposed a
drop of beer was too much for him, not being used to it.
After a short consultation, the Bench fined Joseph 5s. and 3s.6d. costs,
to be paid in one week, or seven days' imprisonment; William Smith was
sentenced to seven days' imprisonment for being drunk and riotous, and
fourteen days' hard labour for assaulting the police.
William Smith (despondingly): That's 21 days altogether. That will put
Christmas out.
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Southeastern Gazette 13 December 1869.
Local News.
On Thursday two men named Joseph and William Smith were brought before
the magistrates, charged with being drunk and riotous, and the latter
prisoner with assaulting the police.
P.C.Sutton said : I went to the Dewdrop Inn on Thursday evening, and
found the prisoners were then outside. William Smith went as far as the
bottom of Fancy Street, and then returned and commenced to abuse Mr.
Bromley. The other prisoner joined them, and I was obliged to take them
into custody, and with the assistance of Mr. Bromley I succeeded in
bringing both to the police station. William Smith struck me and kicked
as he was lying down on the ground, and I had great difficulty in
locking him up.
The prisoners, in defence, charged the policeman with drinking beer at
the bar, and the landlord of the house with inciting them to fight.
The bench fined Joseph Smith 5s., and 3s. 6d. costs, to be paid in a
week, and William Smith was sent to gaol for twenty-one days with hard
labour.
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Folkestone Chronicle 5 February 1870.
Friday, February 4th: Before the Mayor, J. Gambrill, and R.W. Boarer
Esqs.
William Cox was brought up in custody charged with feloniously making
away with four pairs of boots, value 18s. 6d., the property of John
Bromley, on the 2nd instant.
John Bromley, shoemaker and keeper of the Dew Drop Inn, Fancy Street,
deposed he knew the prisoner, whom he had employed to sell shoes for
some months past. On the 2nd inst. he gave prisoner four pairs of shoes
- one pair to take to Mr. Ford and another to a sailor on board one of
the colliers. He was to return at 12 o'clock, but I saw him no more and
in consequence witness went to a second hand shop in Dover Street, kept
by Mr. Evans, and found three pairs there, which had been sold by the
prisoner, and witness procured a warrant. The four pairs produced were
the boots entrusted to prisoner. The shoes are old ones which I buy to
“translate” and sell. The value of them is, altogether, 18s 6d. Prisoner
was paid 6d. per pair for what he sold, and a small commission also was
given.
Cross-examined: You did not come back on Wednesday at 5 and offer me 9s.
I never gave you liberty to sell boots for what you could get.
Elizabeth Evans, keeper of a second hand shop in Dover Street, deposed
that prisoner came to her shop on Wednesday last and offered the three
pairs of boots produced, for which she gave him 7s. She had several
times before bought boots of him.
Samuel Sweetlove, a fish seller of Mill Bay, deposed that on Wednesday
afternoon between 4 and 5 o'clock, prisoner met him opposite Mr. Hart's
pawn shop, and offered a pair of boots for sale at 2s., and after trying
one on, witness bought them.
P.C. Hills deposed that he apprehended the prisoner last evening between
8 and 9 o'clock, and on charging him with stealing four pairs of boots
he said “I know all about it. The boots belonged to Bromley. He owed me
money and 'twas an outstanding job. I did not steal them, they were
given me to sell”. On the way up he wanted to see the warrant, and on
it's being read he went on quietly. Witness afterwards went to Mr.
Evans's shop and got the three pairs, and to Sweetlove's, where he got
the other pair produced, all of which were identified by prosecutor as
his property.
Edward Ford, labourer, of Queen Street, stated that about a week ago he
told prisoner to bring him a pair of shoes and that on Wednesday the
prisoner brought them to the Crown and Anchor, but as witness had no
money he could not take them.
Prisoner was then formally charged and cautioned. He elected to be tried
under the Criminal Justice Act, and pleading guilty was sentenced to two
months' imprisonment with hard labour.
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Kentish Gazette, 15 February, 1870.
FOLKESTONE EMBESELMENT.
At the Police Court on Friday last, before the Mayor, Alderman
Gambrill, and K. W. Boarer, Esq., William Cox was charged with
embezzling four pairs of boots, value 18s. 6d., which had been
entrusted to his charge by John Bromley. Prosecutor, who keeps the
“Dew Drop inn,” Fancy Street, stated that for some months he had
employed the prisoner occasionally to sell boots which witness
bought old and “translated.” He allowed prisoner 6d. per pair for
selling, and gave him his lodgings. On Wednesday morning he gave him
four pairs of boots to sell, and as he did not return witness made
enquiries and found three of them at a second-hand shop in Dover
Street, where prisoner had sold them for 7s. The other pair were
sold to a fish-seller, named Samuel Sweetlove, for 2s. After bearing
the evidence of Mrs. Evans (the keeper of the shop in Dover Street),
of Sweetlove, and of Police-constable Hills, who apprehended the
prisoner, and a man named Ford, prisoner pleaded “guilty,” and was
committed for two months' hard labour.
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Folkestone Observer 17 February 1870.
County Court.
Monday, February 14th: Before W.C. Scott Esq.
J. Bromley v Hatton: This was an action brought to recover £20 11s. 5d.,
money lent and interest. Mr. Minter appeared for the plaintiff; Mr.
Knocker, of Dover, for defendant.
Mr. Minter said the plaintiff, Mr. John Bromley, carried on business in
Fancy Street; the defendant formerly resided in Folkestone, and when the
debt was contracted was supposed to be an independent gentleman living
upon an income, but it turned out that he was in needy circumstances.
The action was brought to recover the sum of £20 11s. 5d., and the small
sum of 8s. 8d. had been paid into court. The items of the bill were four
in number, and were as follows - £3 5s., £12, £2 10s., and £1 7s. He
(Mr. Minter) understood that it was a case in which His Honour would
have to decide which was speaking the truth, as the plaintiff would
swear that he advanced several sums of money, and the defendant would
deny it.
John Bromley, the plaintiff, said: I have known the defendant for years;
he has been in the habit of using my house, and we were on friendly
terms until the action was brought. On January 11th, 1869, I lent him £3
5s. to go to Deal with, as he said he was going to settle some business
with his brother, who had had some property left him. Up to that time I
had not known he was in rather pinched circumstances. At the latter part
of September he asked me to lend him £12 to help him through the
Bankruptcy Court. I lent him £12 on February 2nd to go to Mr. Minter to
prepare himself for bankruptcy. On October 23rd I advanced defendant £2
10s. as he stated he did not wish to break into the £12 I had previously
lent him. Mr. Hatton afterwards left Folkestone, and on January 3rd I
went to his house at Dover and asked him if he could settle my account.
I had been in communication with him, and he had told me that I must
tell his creditors at Folkestone that unless they took a very small
percentage they would get nothing. When at Dover we agreed to go to the
Cherry Tree, where I again spoke to him in reference to my account.
Defendant said that someone was going to pay him a cheque for £20 that
day, and if I would meet him at three o'clock that afternoon he would
“square up” with me. I met him accordingly at the Red Cow, and defendant
then stated that he had seen the party, but the gentleman was having an
interview with someone else, and if I would go to the Golden Cross, in
St. James's Street, on the following day at eleven o'clock, he would
settle with me. I went there at the time appointed, and defendant then
said “Mr. Judge will be here presently, when we will square our
accounts”. Upon Mr. Judge arriving, Mr. Hatton said “John Bromley has
been one of my best friends, and wants some money, and he must have
some”. Mr. Judge replied that the only thing he could do was to apply at
a loan office. Mr. Hatton then brought up something about a life policy
of my wife's. After Mr. Judge had left, I said to the defendant “This is
a pretty affair; I thought you said Judge had a cheque of yours for
£30?”. Defendant said “Yes, so he has, but has paid it away”. He added
that that did not matter, and I should have my money. After some further
conversation we went into Castle Street, where we met Judge, and the
defendant said “Well, John, what is to be done?”. Judge burst out
laughing, and we afterwards went into the office of a Mr. Knocker, where
Judge gave me a paper, saying “See if that will satisfy you”. (Paper
produced) On the paper was written “C. Freshfield Esq., member for the
borough”. (Mr. Minter: No doubt a fit place for the destitute.
(Laughter)) I asked Judge if he thought I was a fool, and told him he
would have an opportunity of seeing me again. I also told him I had been
nicely humbugged. I had a chest of drawers belonging to defendant in my
house which he attempted to sell in part payment of my debt. Hatton also
made up a bundle of linen for the pawn shop, and requested that as much
as possible should be procured on it. The bundle was not taken in at the
pawn shop. In consequence of a letter I called upon a person named Nazer,
at Hythe. Mr. Hatton was there, and Nazer attempted to negotiate with
me. We were locked in a room. Hatton did not then deny the debt, but
offered me £10 in settlement, which I declined to accept.
Cross-examined by Mr. Knocker: When I lent Hatton money I put the amount
on a piece of paper. I had an old book that I entered some of the loans
in, but I burnt it. I kept some furniture belonging to defendant until
December, and I gave it up then on receiving a notice from the defendant
stating that he had come into some property. There was £30 or £40 worth
of property in my house. I received a letter from Mr. Nazer, whom I saw
on the Monday, and again on the Thursday and Friday. Mr. Nazer brought
up Hatton's name about the 1859 election. I did not think I was going to
meet Mr. Hatton there. Nazer offered me £10.
By Mr. Minter: I was not in want of money at the time of applying for
it, but wished the account settled. I was not pressed by any creditors
then, and am now capable of paying 20s. in the £. I saw Mr. Nazer in Mr.
Hatton's presence, and he offered me £10. I had a witness with me, but
Nazer would not allow him in the house. I did not go to Mr. Knocker for
the address of the member of parliament.
Stephen Newing, a furniture buyer, said: I went to Mr. Bromley's house
to buy some furniture. There were two chests of drawers, for which £5
was required by the defendant. I told him I could not give so much, and
he said he was very sorry, as he required it for “John”.
Timoth Sullivan, a pensioner, said: I lodge with Mr. Bromley in October
last. Mr. Hatton on one occasion asked to take a bundle to Mr. Hart's,
in High Street, containing blankets, sheets, and counterpanes. Hatton
said “Get as much as you can, as I wish to pay him (Bromley) some money
I owe him”. I took the bundle to the pawn shop, and gave Mr. Hatton's
name, but they would not take them in as the clothes were moth-eaten.
Mary Ann Bromley, wife of the plaintiff, said: My husband's money is
kept in the bedroom, and on one occasion, when defendant was at the
house, my husband asked me to give him the keys. I gave him the keys and
saw him go upstairs and come down again.
By Mr. Knocker: Defendant sometimes came three or four times a day to
our house. I do not always keep the keys; plaintiff keeps them
sometimes. I think my husband lent defendant £3 5s. some time ago.
This was the plaintiff's case.
Mr. Knocker said it was perfectly true that this was a most unfortunate
case – the testimony of the plaintiff and defendant being entirely
contradictory. It was to be regretted that the action had been brought,
as the defendant had been attempting to settle with his creditors, and
he (the defendant) would tell the court the whole claim was a
fabrication, and he would rather come there that day and give a
statement of his affairs than lose his money. It was perfectly true that
Bromley had advanced him small sums of money, varying from about ten
shillings, but defendant would, when called, state that he always paid
the same back, and that until the letter was received by him he
(defendant) knew nothing of the plaintiff's claim against him.
Thomas Hatton said: I reside at Dover, but until November last I resided
at Folkestone, and have been living on some small sums of money of my
own. I have known the plaintiff since he was a boy. I have been in the
habit of calling upon him. I have borrowed money of plaintiff – 10s.
perhaps –but I have always paid him back. I have never borrowed any
larger amounts. Two or three days before I went to Dover Bromley asked
me to lend him half a sovereign, which I did, and I considered it
payment of a bill I owed him to that amount for repairs to shoes and
refreshments. Nothing was said about me owing him money or a balance of
an account. During last year I was in debt, and my brother lent me some
money. I then went to Mr. Knocker's and he drew up a composition with my
creditors. On October 2nd plaintiff did not advance me £12, nor did I
ask him to lend me the money to go through the bankruptcy court. On the
several dates mentioned I did not borrow the money alleged from the
plaintiff. Bromley had a chest of drawers and some other few articles to
avoid their being seized by my creditors. Nothing was said about the
furniture being a security for money lent me. On January 3rd plaintiff
came to Dover. He said he was in difficulties. We went to the Cherry
Tree and the plaintiff then said he had got his brewer and leather
cutter to pay, and asked me if I knew of a loan office. I told him I did
not and advised him to go to his father. Plaintiff said he would not go
to him. We talked over matters, and Bromley said he would come to Dover
on the morrow. He came down, and I met him in St. James's Street. Before
Mr. Judge came up there was nothing said about my keeping anything from
him. When Judge came up, Bromley said “I want some money”. Judge asked
him what security he had got and Bromley said “A life policy of my
wife's”. Judge said that would not do, but he knew of an agent to a loan
office, named Pain, where he could get the money on a note of hand, and
two sureties. I declined to be his surety, as also did Mr. Judge for me.
Major Dickson's and Mr. Freshfield's names were then mentioned, but we
could not see Dickson, as he was away, and Bromley then said he would go
to Freshfield. I then left him, and went to my dinner. A fortnight
after, I received a letter from him claiming £20. I did not send a reply
to that letter, although I had one written. The next I heard of the
affair was by receiving the summons.
By His Honour: The reason I did not answer the letter was because I
treated it with contempt.
Examination continued: I was written to by a Mr. Nazer to go to Hythe.
(Letter produced) I had not written to Nazer before receiving that
letter. I had no knowledge that the plaintiff would be there. I saw the
plaintiff with Mr. Nazer – he had an interview first. When I wanted to
sell the drawers I did not say I wanted to give Mr. Bromley the money. I
have seen Sullivan at Bromley's house, but I did not ask him to take a
bundle to Mr. Hart's, High Street, for me. I have never sent an article
to a pawn shop in my life.
By Mr. Minter: I have heard Newing's statement, and say that the part
wherein he states that I asked £5 for the furniture is false, and it is
also untrue that I gave the goods to be taken to Mr. Hart's. I had been
friendly with the plaintiff until the claim was made against me, when I
was very indignant with him and called him “a rogue”. The reason I went
to Hythe was to prevent, if possible, the plaintiff from perjuring
himself. When I received the letter from Hythe, I answered it by return
of post, and received another on the 9th Jan. I had consented to see
Bromley there, as Nazer wished me to do so. The furniture was put in
Bromley's house; it was supposed to be out of the way of my creditors. I
left part of my furniture at the next house to my own. When I left
Folkestone I owed about £100. I do not know that Bromley was in
comfortable circumstances at that time. Bromley had never supplied me
with household necessities. I did not know the address of Mr. Freshfield.
My father in law died in November last. I had put forward a compromise
to my creditors previous to my father in law's death. I showed the
letter I was going to send to the plaintiff in answer to his claim to
his mother, who thought it was rather too severe in tone, and I said I
would send another, but I did not do so. When I suggested a loan office
to Bromley he did not say “Do you think I am a ---- fool?”. I know
Bromley's father is in good circumstances, and could no doubt let him
have the money he required. Plaintiff was not the only son. The
furniture was moved in September. The rent of my house in Folkestone was
£15 per annum. I have never been a trouble to my landlord in my life.
By Mr. Knocker: I had no other reason for going to Nazer but those I
have stated. My brother offered 5s. in the £ to my creditors, but they
would not take less than 7s. 6d.
John Judge said: I am clerk to Mr. Knocker, solicitor, Dover. On the day
of Dover Races defendant's brother came to the office and asked me to
draw up a composition offering 5s. in the pound to his creditors. On the
4th January, Mr. Hatton, the defendant, called, and I went to an
interview between Mr. Bromley and the defendant. Plaintiff said he
wanted to procure a loan of £25, and asked me if I knew anyone who would
advance him that sum. I told him I did not unless he had security to
offer. Plaintiff said he had none beyond a life policy belonging to his
wife for £100. I told him that was valueless. The plaintiff then asked
me to be directed to a loan office, and I said “I know of one where a
note of hand would be required, and two sureties”. He said he had no
sureties unless John Hatton stood for him. I told him I could not allow
him to do so in the condition he was then in. Subsequently Major
Dickson's and Mr. Freshfield's names were brought up. I afterwards went
to Castle Street, where Bromley asked me for Mr. Freshfield's address,
and I gave it him at the office of Mr. Knocker. Not a word was spoken
about money being owing.
Mr. Minter: When, as you allege, Mr. Bromley asked you to give him Mr.
Freshfield's address, did you go and write it and give it to him?
Witness: I did.
Mr. Minter: Look at that piece of paper. (Paper produced) Is that your
handwriting?
Witness: No. I am wrong in saying I wrote the direction; I mean I had it
written.
This was the defence.
Mr. Minter, in reply, said Mr. Knocker had stated that the case for the
plaintiff was a mere fabrication, and if he (Mr. Minter) used the same
form with respect to the evidence adduced by the defendant it would suit
it well. The evidence of the plaintiff was corroborated by Newing and
Sullivan, who were both highly respected witnesses. Newing swore that
Hatton bargained with him about the price of the drawers: that was
denied point blank by Hatton, and if the man would deny one thing, he
would another. Mr. Minter, after some further remarks upon the quality
and credibility of the evidence for the defence, asked His Honour for a
verdict for the plaintiff.
His Honour said that in all cases where the verdict had to rest on the
credibility of the evidence he always made it a rule to nonsuit the
parties, but in the present case there were circumstances which would
not permit him to take that course, He would have preferred that the
case had been tried by a jury as it would have been simply for them to
find either for plaintiff or defendant, but when left to the Judge he
could not do that. After considering the evidence of the plaintiff he
might say that it was fairly given and not contradicted. He (the
plaintiff) had made a statement and adhered to it throughout, and it
appeared to be true. It was confirmed also by the two witnesses, Newing
and Sullivan, who both swore to an interview between Bromley and the
defendant, and Sullivan swore positively that the defendant told him to
get as much money as he could as “he wished to pay John”. The
defendant's evidence was not nearly so clear as that of the plaintiff,
and the fact of his putting his furniture out of his own house to
prevent a seizure being made went against him. The witness Judge did not
corroborate anything the plaintiff stated, and it was not likely he
would, as Bromley had stated that defendant wished the transaction in
Dover to be kept in the dark from him. If Bromley was in want of money,
which he positively said he was not, it was quite improbable that he
would go to Hatton, when he had a father with whom he was on good terms,
and who could lend him the money. Under these circumstances he should
say, although he did so with great reluctance, that the evidence of the
defendant was not true, and he should give a verdict for plaintiff, with
costs.
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Folkestone Chronicle 19 February 1870.
County Court.
Monday, February 14th: Before W.C. Scott Esq.
John Bromley v Thomas Hatton: Mr. Minter for plaintiff said defendant
had long resided in Folkestone, and was supposed to be possessed of
independent means, but it turned out not to be the case. The claim was
for £20 0s. 9d., and 8s. 8d. had been paid into Court. The chief items
in the bill were for cash borrowed: £3 5s. on the 1st Jan; £12 on the
2nd Oct; £2 10s on the 22nd Oct; and £1 7s. on the 1st Nov. He believed
the rest of the bill, 18s 8d., would not be disputed. This would be a
case in which His Honour would have to decide who was speaking the
truth, for plaintiff would swear the money had been lent, and the
defendant would deny that he had it, and one of them must be swearing
falsely.
John Bromley, the plaintiff, deposed that he had been on friendly terms
with defendant ever since he was a boy. Defendant was in the habit of
using his house in Fancy Street. The first item of cash lent was on the
occasion of defendant going to Deal on family business. In September,
being in difficulties, defendant asked for a loan of £12 to give Mr.
Minter to enable defendant to go through the Bankruptcy Court. The money
was kepot upstairs in a drawer in his bedroom, his wife keeping the
keys. The third sum was lent defendant to pay a few little bills with,
and the last to help pay a quarter's rent. On the 1st Nov. defendant
went to Dover. On the 3rd Jan. plaintiff went over to Dover for a
settlement. Defendant and he had some ale at the Cherry Tree, when
defendant said if he would meet him at the Red Cow at four o'clock he
should have the money. At the Red Cow, defendant asked witness to go
over next morning and meet him at the Golden Cross, for a friend of his
would pay him a £30 cheque. At the Golden Cross he met defendant, who
said Mr. Judge would be there directly, and all would be settled, but he
asked plaintiff not to let Mr. Judge know all the business. When Mr.
Judge arrived, defendant said to him “Bromley wants money, and money he
must have”. Mr. Judge suggested a loan office, and defendant brought up
something about a policy on plaintiff's wife's life, but plaintiff told
him he did not want a loan. They then went to Messrs. Knocker's office,
defendant going home, and Mr. Judge there gave plaintiff Mr.
Freshfield's address. When defendant left Folkestone he deposited some
furniture with plaintiff as security for the money, and defendant made
up a bundle of linen for the pawn shop, but it was so moth-eaten Mr.
Hart would not receive it. In consequence of a letter, plaintiff went to
Hythe to a Mr. Nazer's, where he met defendant, who did not dispute
owing the money, but offered £10 to settle the case.
In cross-examination plaintiff said he kept books. The entries in the
one produced were copied from an old book which he destroyed because it
was so dirty no-one could understand it. The sums of money lent were not
put down in the old book, but on a sheet of paper. The bill produced,
18s. 8 3/4d., wasd given to Hatton just after the £12 was lent him; 10s.
of it had not been repaid. Plaintiff kept the furniture deposited (which
was worth £30 or £40) till December, when defendant sent for it, and as
he heard defendant had come into some property, he let the security go.
When he went to Dover on the 3rd Jan. he was not pressed for money, and
did not go to borrow. In a letter defendant sent plaintiff, asking him
to make a composition with his creditors for him, defendant did not
mention owing the money to plaintiff. He could swear these advances were
not a fabrication.
Stephen Newing deposed that defendant offered to sell him two chests of
drawers for £5, as he wanted the money to give John (Bromley).
Timothy Sullivan, pensioner, living at the Dew Drop Inn, said defendant
asked him to take some clothes to the pawn shop, and get as much as he
could on them, for he wanted to pay Bromley.
Mary Ann Bromley remembered Hatton coming in October to borrow money. He
was in the habit of coming into the house frequently.
Mr. Knocker, for defendant, said the testimony of plaintiff would be
distinctly contradicted by defendant, and it would be necessary,
therefore, to look at the corroborative evidence. It was true Bromley
had at times advanced Hatton a few shillings, and sometimes the
accommodation had been reversed, but such sums had always been repaid.
In Oct. at the time Hatton was stated to have borrowed £12 to place in
Mr. Minter's hands to enable him to pass the Court, arrangements were
absolutely being made in Mr. Knocker's office to effect a composition
with his creditors. Then, the book produced by Bromley was commenced in
1865, and yet this debt, said to be contracted last year, was copied
from some other old book. Then, as to the furniture, it was unpleasant
to have to swear that furniture was removed for the purpose of fraud,
but Hatton would swear it was deposited with Bromley to avoid a
distraint, and not as security.
He called Thos. Hatton, the defendant, who stated that on four or five
occasions he had borrowed money of the plaintiff to the extent of a few
shillings – never more – and that it had always been repaid. In Sept. he
was in difficulties, and his brother lent him £30 to make an arrangement
with his creditors, and he placed his affairs in Messrs. Knocker's
hands. He did pay his rent on the 1st Nov., but the money he received
from Mr. Olivier for some furniture sold to him. Bromley concealed some
of his furniture, and the people next door secreted some, because his (defendant's)
wife was afraid it would be taken. As to the interview with Mr. Judge,
he said Bromley came over and told defendant he was in difficulties with
his brewer, and wanted to get some money. Defendant suggested Bromley's
father, but Bromley declined to ask, and as Hatton knew no other way he
promised to ask Mr. Judge. He did not ask plaintiff beforehand not to
let Judge know all the business – not to tell him he (defendant) owed
the money. Mr. Judge recommended Pay's loan office, but as Bromley could
not get securities, he asked for Mr. Freshfield's address and Mr. Judge
gave it him. A fortnight after he received a claim for this amount, and
was so indignant that he wrote a letter to plaintiff remonstrating with
him, but on showing it to Mrs. Bromley she advised him not to send it to
her son, and the next thing that he knew was that a County Court summons
had been issued. Witness went down to Hythe in answer to a letter from
Mr. Nazer, not expecting to see Bromley. He refused to have anything to
say to him for some time, and only consented because he thought Bromley
wanted to compromise the matter and not go into the witness box to
commit perjury. Witness denied owing the money, and £10 was never
mentioned. He did not tell Newing he wanted money for John, nor did he
tell Sullivan anything about the bundle. In cross-examination witness
said he felt so indignant at the claim that he took no notice of it. He
called Bromley a rogue. As witness removed his furniture to defraud his
creditors, it would not be unfair to call him a rogue. Some of the
furniture was removed to the next door, and some to Bromley's. He owed
about £100 in Folkestone. Bromley never supplied him with necessaries –
coals or candles. Did not know Bromley was in easy circumstances.
Witness's father-in-law died in Nov., and it was not after that he
placed his affairs in Messrs. Knocker's hands.
John Judge, clerk to Messrs. Knocker, said defendant placed his affairs
in their hands in August last. With regard to Bromley's visit to Dover,
he deposed that Bromley said he wanted a loan of £25, and as he could
not find security, he wanted to apply to Major Dickson or Mr. Freshfield.
Major Dickson being abroad, he asked for Mr. Freshfield's address, and
witness gave it to him.
Mr. Minter having commented on the evidence given, His Honour delivered
judgement. In all cases of doubt he would enter a non-suit, but could
not in this case, although he should have preferred to have a jury. The
evidence of the plaintiff was well and fairly given, not shaken by
cross-examination, and had been confirmed to some extent by two
independent witnesses. Defendant did not come into Court with clean
hands. He entirely denied the charge, but his defence was not
corroborated. Mr. Judge's evidence might be perfectly true, and yet not
contradict that of plaintiff, who stated that before Mr. Judge came in,
defendant asked him not to let him know all the case. No doubt if
plaintiff had wanted the money he would have gone to his father for it
instead of to Hatton, who he knew was in difficulties. The weight of
evidence and probability was in favour of plaintiff, and the judgement
would be for plaintiff with costs.
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Folkestone Express 19 February 1870.
County Court.
Monday, February 14th: Before W.C. Scott Esq.
John Bromley v Thomas Hatton: This action was to recover sums borrowed
at different times by the defendant, amounting to £20 11s. Mr. Minter
appeared for the plaintiff, and Mr. Knocker, of Dover, for the
defendant.
Mr. Minter said the plaintiff was a publican, residing in Fancy Street,
Folkestone, and he always supposed the defendant to be a man possessed
of some means, but that turned out, unfortunately, not to be the case,
he proving to be a person in needy circumstances. He stated that the
small sum of 8s. 8d. had been paid into Court, but the amount still due
could be classed as follows:£3 5s. borrowed on Jan. 12, 1869, £12 on
Oct. 2nd, 1869, £2 12s. on Oct. 22nd, 1869, and £1 7s. on 1st November
last. The smaller sum was for work done and refreshments supplied. From
what he could understand, it was a case in which His Honour would have
to decide who was speaking the truth, as defendant will deny having
borrowed any money. Looking at the recent dates he did not see how it
was possible that any great variation could exist in the evidence.
John Bromley said: I know Mr. Thomas Hatton. He has resided here for
some years as an independent gentleman. I have been acquainted with him
ever since I was a little boy. He has been in the frequent habit of
using my house, and I have been on very friendly terms with him. I lent
him £3 5s. on January 12th, 1869; he said he had to settle some business
with his brother about some law affair. From that time up to October 2nd
I did not know he was pinched in circumstances. About that time he came
to me and asked me to advance him some money to take him through the
Bankruptcy Court. I asked him what it would cost him. He said he had
been given to understand it would be about £12. I advanced that sum for
him to go to Mr. Minter's office and get himself declared a bankrupt. I
kept my money in a drawer upstairs; my wife had the key, and I had to
ask her for it. I afterwards advanced him £2 12s. He said he did not
want to break into the £12, as he intended to go to Mr. Minter's in the
course of a few days. I then advanced him £1 7s. on the 1st of November
to help him pay his quarter's rent. Defendant then left Folkestone for
Dover. On the 3rd of January this year I went over to ask him to settle
his little account. I had previously been in communication with him. He
was in debt all over the town, and he had instructed me to go round and
try to make a settlement with his creditors. I saw him at Dover. We went
to the Cherry Tree and had some ale together. He said if I met him at
four o'clock at the Red Lion he would square with me, as he expected a
party there with a cheque for £30. I went there. When the defendant came
he said “I have not seen that party, as he was having an interview with
a gentleman. If you come down by the first train tomorrow and meet me at
the Golden Cross, St. James's Street, I will settle with you, John”. I
went there and met defendant. He said “Mr. Judge will be here presently,
and we shall square our account all right. Don't let Judge know
anything. He's an old hand.” Mr. Judge came shortly after. Defendant
then said to him “Now, John, Mr. Bromley is one of my best friends
through all. He wants money, man, and he must have it.” Judge said: “You
are not in a position to let him have money.” Defendant replied “I know
I ain't.” Judge then said “The only thing I can recommend is to go to
Mr. Pay's loan office.” I said “I will not have anything to do with a
loan office. If Mr. Hatton likes to have it, he can.” He then said
something about a life policy. Judge then looked up and said “I must be
off.” He then left. I then said to defendant “This is a curious affair.
I thought Judge had a £30 cheque.” He replied “So he had, John. He paid
it away, and some of the money is at his own house, and some at mine.
That will be all right presently.” We then went to Mr. Knocker's office,
but did not meet Judge till some time afterwards in Castle Street.
Defendant said to him “John, what is to be done?” Judge burst out
laughing and said “Let us see. Something must be done.” I then went to
Mr. Knocker's office, and Judge went to a desk and spoke to a clerk. He
then gave me a piece of paper and said “Perhaps this will be of use to
you”. I looked at him, and asked him if he thought I was a fool. The
paper had the address of C.K. Freshfield Esq. on it. We walked, talking,
to the street door, and I said “Perhaps you don't know how me and Mr.
Hatton stand.” He replied “I know all.” I had two chests of drawers of
defendant's and he attempted to sell them in part payment. He also tried
to pawn some linen to pay me. I went to Hythe to see a person named
Nason, and in one of the rooms he offered me £10 to settle the action. I
was offered £10 last Friday night.
By Mr. Knocker: I keep a book (book produced); that is it. My old one
was in a very dirty state, and I copied my accounts into that before
last Christmas.
The witness was then subjected to a long cross-examination as to the
nature of his transactions with the defendant, which went to show that
defendant had sent property to plaintiff's house as a security for the
money, but hearing Mr. Hatton had come into some property he allowed him
to have the furniture away, never doubting but what the money would be
paid. Plaintiff never had any reason to borrow money. He had never been
in any difficulty, and was always in a position to pay 20s. in the pound.
Stephen Newing, a furniture broker, was examined. He said: I met Mr.
Hatton. He took me into Mr. Bromley's house and showed me two chests of
drawers. He said “I want to sell them for £5.” I told him I could not
give him so much money. He replied “I am sorry for it, as I wanted to
give the money to John”. I supposed that was Mr. Bromley. That was at
the latter part of October.
Timothy Sullivan, a pensioner lodging at Mr. Bromley's, said: I saw Mr.
Hatton at Bromley's house on several occasions. He asked me to take a
bundle to Mr. Hart's, the pawnbroker, in High Street. It was a large
bundle containing sheets, blankets, and counterpanes. He said “Get as
much as possible on them. I want it to pay Mr. Bromley some money I owe
him”. When I took the goods I gave Mr. Hatton's address, No. 2,
Cambridge Terrace. They were all moth-eaten, and Mr. Hart would not take
them.
By Mr. Knocker: This was the last week in October.
Mrs. Mary Ann Bromley then deposed to her husband coming to her for the
key.
Mr. Knocker then addressed His Honour for the defence, alleging that
Bromley had prevaricated; that he went to Dover for the purpose of
borrowing money. Having a knowledge of the fact that defendant had
concealed his furniture, apprehending a distress, he had taken advantage
and trumped up this account.
Thomas Hatton (the defendant) was called. He said: I was residing in
Folkestone until November last, and I now live in Dover. I have been
living on small means of my own. I have been acquainted with plaintiff's
father; he is a respectable and independent man. I have borrowed half a
sovereign from plaintiff sometimes; at no time more than that amount.
When he sent to me I did not owe him a penny piece. I have a brother
living at Deal. I took steps for compromising with my creditors last
year. My brother advanced me the sum of £50. Plaintiff never advanced me
any money; he secured my furniture for me. When he came to Dover on the
3rd of January he said he was in difficulties with his brewer and
leather cutter. I said to him “Why don't you ask your father?”. He said
“I owe him £45 now”. I said “If I had it in my power I would lend you
£25”. Some conversation then took place about a loan office. I said “I
will enquire of a friend of mine if he knows an office”. We met Mr.
Judge in St. James's Street; nothing transpired before we saw him. Not a
single word was said about keeping anything back from Mr. Judge.
Plaintiff said to Mr. Judge “I want £25”. Mr. Judge said “If you can get
security I can get it”. Plaintiff then spoke of his wife's life policy;
that was not considered sufficient. Bromley then proposed to go to Mr.
Freshfield, and asked for the address. We met Judge in Castle Street and
asked for the address. He said “I can't recollect it” and Bromley left
me to go and get it. I was astounded to receive a fortnight after a
letter for £20 money lent. I had a reply written to that letter but did
not send it; I treated it with contempt. Plaintiff's mother advised me
not to send it, as it was too strong. I afterwards wanted plaintiff to
compromise the affair as I did not wish him to get into the witness box
and perjure himself. Not one word was said about £10, nor any amount at
all. I met Newing in the street and asked him the value of the drawers.
He said they are worth so and so. Did not say I wanted the money to give
to Mr. Bromley. I saw Sullivan in Bromley's house but never asked him to
take a bundle to the pawn shop. I never sent an article to such a place
in my life.
By Mr. Minter: What Mr. Newing said was an untruth. Both Mr. Bromley and
Mr. Newing have sworn to what is untrue. When I got the letter I thought
Bromley a great rogue. (Mr. Minter here read a letter from Mr. Nason to
the defendant. It said “If you like to come direct to me, I can get you
out of all your troubles”) He then examined the witness on it, and also
as to his monetary affairs. The witness still persisted in saying he
only desired to keep Bromley from perjuring himself.
John Judge was then called, and deposed to the interview with Bromley.
He thought he required a loan of £25, but as Bromley had no security he
said he would see Mr. Freshfield, and consequently he took Bromley to
the office and gave him the address.
Mr. Minter then addressed His Honour in reply, and contended that the
defendant's testimony was totally unreliable, while the plaintiff's
evidence was perfectly trustworthy, being confirmed by several
witnesses, one a tradesman of long standing in the town. He also alluded
to the conduct of the defendant in removing his furniture to evade it's
being seized by his creditors, a circumstance of itself sufficient to
impeach his veracity. As for Mr. Judge, it was planned at defendant's
suggestion that he should know nothing of the affair.
His Honour said the general rule he adopted in cases of this kind, where
there was a great deal of cross-swearing, was to nonsuit the plaintiff,
and he regretted in this case that one side or the other had not
employed the services of a jury. He should simply say that he found for
the plaintiff or defendant after reviewing some few facts of the case.
Plaintiff's evidence was fairly given, and his statements bore the
impress of truth; it was also confirmed to a great extent by the
witnesses he called. The corroboration of defendant's evidence is simply
nothing at all. Judge's evidence is in the main true, but the plaintiff
does not differ from Judge. If plaintiff was in want of money it was
utterly improbable that he would go to defendant, who he knew for
certain was in very needy circumstances. On the whole, the weight of the
probabilities and evidence is in favour of the plaintiff, and he was
sorry to come to the conclusion that defendant's evidence was untrue.
Verdict for plaintiff, with costs.
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Folkestone Chronicle 19 March 1870.
Advertisement.
To Let, With Immediate Possession.
A Free Beerhouse and Lodging House, doing a good business. Satisfactory
reasons given for leaving.
Apply to Mr. Bromley, Dew Drop Inn, Fancy Street, Folkestone.
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Southeastern Gazette 7 November 1871.
Local News.
Early on Saturday morning week a fire broke out at the Dewdrop Inn,
Fancy Street, and was not extinguished before a quantity of bedding was
destroyed. As the fire occurred in a closely populated neighbourhood it
created considerable alarm. It was caused by a lodger putting a lighted
pipe under his pillow.
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Folkestone Chronicle 30 December 1871.
Friday, December 29th: Before The Mayor, J. Tolputt and T. Caister Esqs.
John Lewis, a tramp, was charged with stealing a medal of the value of
4s., from Michael Green, belonging to the 67th Regiment.
Prisoner pleaded Guilty to the charge.
The prosecutor went to the Dew Drop public house on Tuesday evening
last. He slept in the room with the prisoner and two other men. He had
his medal when he went in the house, but in the morning it was gone, and
he gave information of the robbery to the police.
P.C. Keeler said that he went to Mr. Johnson, jeweller, High Street, who
he found had bought the medal of prisoner.
He was sentenced to two months' imprisonment.
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Folkestone Express 13 January 1872.
Transfer of License.
Wednesday, January 10th: Before The Mayor and R.W. Boarer Esq.
The license of the Dew Drop was transferred from James Marshall to John
Johnson. Supt. Martin said the house had been conducted very well
lately. Mrs. Johnson produced two testimonials from persons in London.
Note: No mention of Marshall in More Bastions, and Johnson is listed
from 1870.
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Southeastern Gazette 10 June 1873.
Local News.
On Saturday an inquest was held on the body of Thomas Campion, a
shoemaker, aged 41, lodging at 27, Charlotte Street, who was killed by
falling into the harbour.
Dr. Eastes stated he was called to attend the deceased at about two
o’clock on Wednesday morning last; he had all the symptoms of a person
suffering from concussion of the brain, but the only visible external
injury was a lacerated wound on the scalp. He died on Thursday
afternoon, having remained insensible during the whole of that time.
Wm. Henry Forbes, late of Hastings, stated that he lived at the Dewdrop
Inn, Fancy Street. Had known the deceased about six years. On Tuesday
last he was in witness’s company all the evening, and at about eleven
o’clock he asked him to have a ramble. They were both perfectly sober.
They went down to the harbour, to the lower landing, where the people
fish. Deceased went past and witness followed. It was very dark there.
All at once witness missed deceased, and cried out “Tom where are you?”
There was no answer, and on looking over the harbour, the tide being
out, witness fancied he saw deceased lying on the rocks. He jumped down
and found him on his back insensible. He must have slipped and fallen
six or seven feet. Having obtained assistance he was conveyed home. They
had no particular motive in going to the lower landing, they were on the
best of terms, and had not quarrelled.
John Kelway, a Custom-house officer, confirmed the evidence of this
witness.
The jury returned a verdict of “Accidental death.”
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Folkestone Express 14 June 1873.
Inquest.
In our last impression we briefly recorded the fact that a man named
Thomas Campion fell among the rocks under the lighthouse at the end of
the quay at the harbour, and died from the effects of injuries received.
An inquest was held on Saturday at the Harvey Hotel, before John Minter
Esq., and a jury. After viewing the body the following evidence was
taken:
S. Eastes Esq., M.R.C.S. deposed to being called to see deceased at 27,
Charlotte Terrace at two o'clock on Wednesday morning. He found him in
bed, the only visible injury being a wound behind the right ear.
Endeavoured to raise him from his state of insensibility without effect.
Deceased had all the symptoms of severe concussion of the brain. Gave
directions as to what should be done and called again early in the
morning; found patient still insensible. Saw him five or six times
during the day and used the proper remedies. Deceased continued in the
same state until three o'clock the following morning, when his breathing
became difficult and he was no longer able to swallow, and gradually
sank and died at half past two in the afternoon from concussion – not
compression – of the brain, most probably caused by a fall which witness
had been informed deceased had had.
Elizabeth Impett, 27, Charlotte Street, said deceased had lodged at her
house about seven years, was 48 years of age. Knew nothing of his
friends. Deceased left home between eight and nine on Tuesday morning;
passed him between eight and nine in Dover Street, when he appeared
sober. He was generally a sober man, but sometimes he got out a bit. Two
policemen and Forbes brought deceased home insensible about one o'clock
on Wednesday morning.
William Henry Forbes said he lived at the Dew Drop, Fancy Street. Had
known deceased about six years. On Tuesday evening deceased had tea with
him, had a game of draughts after tea, had four pints of half-and-half
among three of them, went to the harbour and down the lower landing
along the jetty leading under the lighthouse. Deceased was eight or ten
paces ahead of him, and he missed him. Called out “Tom, where are you?”,
and receiving no answer went in search of him. Found him lying among the
rocks under the lighthouse. Both of them were sober. Thought the
deceased, in trying to step upon the transoms, missed his footing. It
was dark, and low water.
The Coroner remarked that it was a curious thing for witness and
deceased to go to such a place at that hour of night. What were they
going to do?
Witness said they went for a ramble. Jumped down to deceased and found
he had fallen six or seven feet and was lying on his back unconscious.
Went immediately for assistance. Deceased was perfectly sober, and they
were not larking or spreeing, and were on good terms and smoking their
pipes.
John Kelway, an extra man in Her Majesty's Customs said he was watchman
at the harbour on the night in question, and corroborated the last
witness. Went to his assistance and found deceased jammed in a hole
between two rocks. Procured further assistance and deceased was got up
and sent home. Deceased and Forbes were perfectly sober, and appeared to
be on good terms.
Wilson Willis, the Company's night-watchman corroborated.
Verdict “Accidental Death”.
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Folkestone Express 20 December 1873.
Monday, December 15th: Before The Mayor, R.W. Boarer and J. Kelcey Esqs.
Catherine Harrington, wife of John Harrington, who was fetched from Cork
and charged last week with leaving his wife and family chargeable to the
parish was placed in the dock on a charge of being drunk and disorderly.
From the evidence of P.C. Keeler it seems that he was fetched by the
landlord of the Dew Drop, Fenchirch Street, about a quarter before
twelve on Saturday night to turn prisoner out of his house as she was
making a disturbance. He got her out of the house, when she laid down
upon the ground, took off her shoes and stockings, and in expressive
Hibernian language asserted her determination to stay there all night,
and he was compelled to obtain a stretcher to convey her to the lock up.
Dunn, the landlord of the Dew Drop was called and said prisoner had
lodged at his house with her three children three nights, and on the
night in question her husband paid a shilling for her lodgings. She went
to bed with her children, but shortly after commenced making a
disturbance and her husband dared not go to her. She was drunk, and as
she would not be quiet he sent for a policeman to turn her out. She did
not have any drink in his house.
Prisoner made a long and rambling statement, in the course of which she
said she had a pint of porter, which affected her head very much after
being in the Union.
The Mayor said Dunn was not justified in turning prisoner out. If she
were drunk, bed was the best place for her and she was lodging in his
house, therefore he had no right to turn her out. If he took such
lodgers he must put up with their conduct.
Prisoner was discharged.
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Southeastern Gazette 23 December 1873.
Local News.
Catherine Harrington, the wife of a man who was last week brought from
Ireland to answer a charge of deserting his wife and family, and who
contrived to get off scot free, was charged with being drunk and
disorderly at midnight on Saturday.
Harrington had paid for lodgings for his wife and children at the Dew
Drop beerhouse, and the lady got drunk and went to bed, but shortly
after became so violent that even her husband dare not go to her.
P.C. Keeler was sent for and the woman was turned out, when she pulled
off her shoes and stockings, vowing she would sleep on the pavement, but
the constable got a stretcher and conveyed her to more comfortable
quarters at the lock-up.
Her plea was that a pint of porter after the light beverages of Elham
Union “affected her head.”
She was discharged, the Bench remarking that the landlord was not
justified in turning her out of doors.
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Folkestone Express 14 February 1874.
Monday, February 9th: Before The Mayor, J. Kelcey, J. Hoad and R.W.
Boarer Esqs.
Catherine Wood, alias Kate Murray (23), whose career appears to be one
of delinquency, having been three years in a reformatory, and against
whom was registered some half-score convictions, was brought up on
remand from Saturday, charged with stealing sundry books of the value of
1s. 6d., from the shop of Mr. Edward Dale, bookseller, Dover Street.
Annie Dale, prosecutor's daughter, deposed: I was in my father's shop on
Wednesday afternoon, when prisoner came in and asked for a ticket for
the Servants' Home. I told her to go to Mr. Birch's. She then left the
shop and came back in a quarter of an hour and said she had been to Mr.
Birch's and found she was too old to go into a Servants' Home. I then
told her to go to Mr. Pope's and she went away. She had a bonnet or
shawl on.
Prisoner to witness: I told you I could not find Mr. Birch's.
Elizabeth Dale, prosecutor's wife, deposed: Prisoner came to our shop on
Wednesday evening between seven and eight o'clock, and said she wanted
to get into the Servants' Home. I told her my husband had no means of
getting her into such an institution and that it was of no use her
calling again. She left the shop, and after she was gone I looked round
and missed about a dozen “Churchman's Almanack” and “Dover and Deal
Guide”s. The books now produced correspond with those I missed.
Hannah Carter, wife of John Carter, Oddfellows Arms, Radnor Street,
said: Prisoner has lodged at my house. She came on Wednesday and called
for a glass of beer and porter and paid a penny for it. She had a yellow
covered book in her hand and asked if I liked reading, and I replied
that I could not read and she then gave the book to my little girl.
Prisoner went out after she had drank her beer. I gave the book to P.C.
Keeler.
Harriett Hall, wife of William Hall, fishmonger, said: I saw prisoner
come out of the fishmarket about half past three on Wednesday afternoon.
She went through the arch in front of the Royal George, and was tossing
up a number of books. She said “I am going to put these up for a pint of
beer”. I said “You may as well give me one for my little girl”, and she
gave me one and then went away.
Charlotte, wife of William Bourne, Hope, Fancy Street said prisoner came
into her house in company with a tall man on Wednesday, and he paid for
a pint of beer. Prisoner had several books in her hand and offered to
give witness them, and as she said she did not want them, she gave her a
“Churchman's Almanack”, and said if she kept the books she would only
make away with them. Witness threw the book prisoner gave her on the tap
room fire.
P.C. Keeler said: On Thursday morning, from information received, I went
to the Oddfellows Arms and received the book I now produce from Mrs.
Carter. I then went in search of prisoner and apprehended her in Tontine
Street about noon. After being cautioned she said she was drunk and went
into a shop, but she would not have done it if it had not been for a
young man who was standing outside, and she gave him a portion of the
books. She said she did not know his name, but they called him
“Charlie”. Prisoner was searched by the female searcher, but nothing was
found upon her. I have been to Dover and Hythe in search of the man, but
could not find him.
Prisoner, after being duly cautioned, said: I came to Folkestone on
Monday with a young man named Mackson, whose father keeps a farm. We
went to the Dew Drop and got a bed there; we went into the tap room and
had a pot of beer. I had just come out of prison and got a little beer,
which upset me. If you will be so kind as to forgive me I will go into a
Home: I could go in one today. I have lost my mother. I will go down on
my hands and knees if you will forgive me. I don't want to go to prison
again.
The Mayor said the Bench had no alternative but to commit prisoner for
trial, and she was accordingly committed to the Quarter Sessions.
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Folkestone Express 28 March 1874.
Wednesday, March 25th: Before The Mayor, Col. De Crespigny, J. Clark, W.
Bateman, and J. Tolputt Esqs.
George Brooks, alias Poole, pleaded Guilty to being drunk and
disorderly, and committing wilful damage by breaking a window, the
property of the Executors of the late Charles Edward Jordan, South
Foreland Inn.
Mr. H. Jordan said prisoner went to the South Foreland and asked for
some beer, but as he was drunk he refused to serve him, and he became so
abusive he was obliged to put him out, when he went to a private
compartment and kicked at him through the window and broke it, doing
damage to the amount of 5s.
Supt. Wilshere said the police were called to the Royal George, the Dew
Drop, and the Victoria to turn prisoner out.
Mr. H.W. Le Butt, Royal George Hotel, said prisoner threatened him
because he would not serve him with beer, and took up a pewter pot which
he thought he was going to throw at him, and he sent for the police.
Prisoner had been the terror of the neighbourhood for three days.
A previous conviction for assaulting the police in September, 1872, was
proved.
Fined 1s. for the wilful damage, 5s. the cost of the window, 5s. for
being drunk, and 7s. costs, or 21 days' in default.
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Folkestone Express 28 June 1879.
Wednesday, June 25th: Before Captain Crowe, Alderman Hoad, M.J. Bell and
W.J. Jeffreason Esqs.
Robert Huntley was brought up on a warrant, charged with being drunk in
the Dew Drop on the 10th May, 1874, and also with being in the same
house during prohibited hours on the same day.
P.C. Knowles said he was on duty in the police station about four
o'clock on Sunday the 10th May, 1874, and was sent for to go to the Dew
Drop (now called the George The Third) in Fenchurch Street. He went
there and found the prisoner very drunk. His face was cut and bleeding.
He advised him to leave the house, and he at once did so.
It seems that on the following Thursday a summons was served upon the
prisoner, who absconded, and has only just returned. He told the
Magistrates that a day or two after the occurrence he broke his leg and
was three months in hospital, but P.C. Hogben, who served the summons,
said the prisoner was all right on the 14th of May.
Prisoner pleaded Guilty to being found on the premises, but not to being
drunk. He was an old inhabitant, but he had never been in similar
trouble before. Notwithstanding the lapse of time, the Bench convicted
the prisoner on both charges, fining him 2.s 6d., and 11s. 6d. costs, or
fourteen days' for being drunk, and 2s. 6d. and 9s. 6d. costs, or
fourteen days' for being found on the premises during prohibited hours.
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Southeastern Gazette 30 June 1879.
Local News.
At Wednesday’s Police Court Robert Huntley was brought up on a warrant,
charged, with being drunk in the Dew Drop on the 10th May, 1874, and
also with being in the same house during prohibited hours on the same
day.
The facts of the case were deposed to by P.C. Knowles, and it seems that
on the Thursday following the commission of the offence, the accused
absconded after the serving of the summons upon him, and had only just
returned.
He pleaded guilty to being found on the premises, but not to being
drunk. He was, he said, an old inhabitant, but he had never been in
similar trouble before.
Notwithstanding the lapse of time, the Bench convicted him on both
charges, fining him 2s. 6d., costs 11s. 6d., or fourteen days’ for being
drunk, and 2s. 6d., costs 9s. 6d., or fourteen days’ for being found on
the premises during prohibited hours.
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From an email received 19 July 2015.
Hello,
I am writing to you in connection with a website we are currently
hosting which follows the lives of the Armstrong family from Moyaliffe
Castle, County Tipperary, during the First World War through weekly
posts of letters, diary extracts and photographs. The material forms
part of the Armstrong Collection which we hold here in the library, but
we also include relevant material from external sources. You can visit
the website at
http://longwaytotipperary.ul.ie.
Mrs Armstrong lived in Folkestone during to war with her three
daughters in order to be geographically as close as possible to her son
who was fighting in France. Her middle daughter, Winona ‘Jess'
Armstrong, worked in the "Dew Drop Inn" in 1916, and now you probably
guess why I'm writing to you! As you note on your website, there was a
pub by that name in Folkestone in the latter half of the nineteenth
century. What you may not know is that in 1916, four Canadian woman
opened a ‘new' "Dew Drop Inn" on Bouverie Road West. It wasn't so much
of a pub as a tea room and all the proceeds were devoted to wartime
charities. Whether it still exists I couldn't tell you but somehow I
doubt it.
I was wondering if you would grant us permission to use the postcard
of the "Dew Drop Inn" you have on your website to illustrate Week 95
(17-23 April 1916) of our ‘story'. As you say, the picture may not be a
faithful representation of the actual premises but it is such a lovely,
whimsical card that we would love to use it with one of Jess's diary
entries. The image will be fully accredited to you and/ or the original
donor, whichever way you would prefer.
Many thanks in advance for considering this request, and I shall look
forward to hearing from you!
Kind regards,
Anna-Maria Hajab. |
LICENSEE LIST
BROMLEY Joseph 1867-70
JOHNSON John 1870-73
DUNN Thomas 1873-75
LEPPER Godfrey 1875
Changed name to "George III."
From More Bastions of the Bar by Easdown and Rooney
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