24 Harbour Street
20 Harbour Street
Folkestone
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Above photo kindly sent by Barrie Wootton showing the "Harbour Hotel"
(another name for Inn) in 1905. This looks totally different to how it
looks now, but the address and licensee Thomas Hall is definitely the
same. |
Above photo, circa 1904, kindly sent by Paul Wells.
"A gentlemen's day trip leaving the Harbour Inn. Mr. J. W. Cann, of the
London and South Coast Motor Service, specialised in excursions to the
south coast in the summer months. Also in shot is Mr. George Carter's "True
Briton Hotel." |
Above photograph kindly supplied by Jan Pedersen, 1978.
Harbour Inn sign left 1970s, sign right, 2000.
Above with thanks from Brian Curtis
www.innsignsociety.com |
Above signs 1980s.
With thanks from Brian Curtis
www.innsignsociety.com. |
Above photograph kindly supplied by Jan Pedersen, 1981. |
Above photos by Paul Skelton, 27 June 2009. |
Possibly dates to 1844 under the name of the "Harbour Inn."
Open in 1861 in this name by Thomas Golder when the frontage of an
existing building was changed from a previous building, which may have been
previously the "Jolly Sailor." Unfortunately Thomas Golder died the
following year.
Early days saw the premises called the "Harbour Hotel" and owned and
supplied by George Beer and Co of Canterbury from 1883. In 1893 the house
was submitted to the Compensation authorities for closure due to redundancy,
probably due to the high turnover of licensees at this address, but this
obviously failed. Thomas Hall, from the "Lifeboat" steadied the waves at the
turn of 1891/2.
The pub was hit by enemy shells in March 1943 damaging the rear of the
building burying licensee George Offen and his wife for four hours, but both
survived and the house was made secure and reopened on 10th January 1946.
Fremlins bought the premises in 1949, and demolished and totally rebuilt
it in 1959.
1967 saw Whitbread take over the pub and in 1981 enlarged the premises
taking the "True Briton" next door
and making this into the one pub, calling it the "Old
Harbour Crab and Oyster House." This remained with this name till 1990
when the premises again became the "Harbour Inn."
Other names have been "True Briton"
and "Harbour Crab and
Oyster."
It is believed the pub reverted back to its original name of "True
Briton" again in May 2011.
After a few changes, in September 2017 the premises was again sold and
the new owners will be changing the name back to the "Harbour Inn" again.
Canterbury Weekly Journal 16 November 1844.
On Saturday last the Town Council met at the "Harbour Hotel" for
breakfast, after which they proceeded to the Guildhall, where Dr.
Bateman was chosen Mayor for the ensuing year. This gentleman has filled
the same position ten times before. The Council afterwards partook of a
most excellent dinner at the Harbour Hotel.
Note: This predates start date for Harbour Inn (sometimes referred to as
the Harbour Hotel) by 17 years, when, according to local reports, it was
“newly erected”.
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Maidstone Journal 19 November 1844.
On Saturday last the Town Council met at the Harbour Hotel for
breakfast, after which they proceeded to the Guildhall, where Dr.
Bateman was chosen Mayor for the ensuing year. This gentleman has
filled the same position ten times before. The Council afterwards
partook of a most excellent dinner at the "Harbour Hotel."
Note: This predates start date for Harbour Inn (sometimes referred
to as the Harbour Hotel) by 17 years, when, according to local
reports, it was "newly erected".
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From the Folkestone Chronicle 24 August, 1861. Transcribed by Jan Pedersen.
ANNUAL LICENSING DAY
Mr. Harrison said he appeared to support an application made by Mr.
Thomas Golder, for a licence to be granted him for a house he had lately
erected in Harbour Street. Mr Golder was no doubt well known to some of
the bench, having lived in Folkestone all his life. He of course was
determined to keep the house highly respectable; he might add that a
house stood a short time ago near the spot where his new house was
erected called the "Pilot Cutter," but which was removed when the
improvements were carried out; and also another house called the "Folkestone
Arms," which was in the vicinity, was removed. He trusted therefore
to have shown sufficient to induce the bench to grant the application.
Mr. Harrison also produced a petition numerously signed in favour of the
application.
Mr. Boult said he was a publican in the immediate neighbourhood, and if
this licence was granted there would be five licensed houses without a
single house between them, three adjoining at one side of the street,
and two at the other. There had been many houses pulled down in the
immediate neighbourhood and very few rebuilt; some that had been were
not let.
The Mayor in answer said that the bench had unanimously agreed to grant
the licence.
Note: Boult was licensee
at the "Victoria," South Street.
Jan Pedersen.
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Folkestone Observer 24 August 1861.
Annual Licensing Sessions.
The Magistrates sat on Thursday at the Sessions Hall for granting ale
and spirit licences.
On the application of Mr. Harrison, a licence was granted to Mr. Thomas
Golder for the Harbour Inn, newly erected, notwithstanding the
opposition of Mr. John Transome Boult, of the Victoria, South Street.
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Southeastern Gazette 27 August 1861.
Annual Licensing Day.
A new licence was granted to Thos. Golder, Harbour Inn. |
Folkestone Chronicle 23 November 1861.
Corporation meeting, Monday, Nov. 18th.
To consider plans for the "True Briton Inn," Harbour Street, by
Messrs. Ash and Sons, and make order thereon.
The council proceeded to discuss the matter of the "True Briton Inn."
After inspecting the plans of which, showing the new frontage in
Harbour Street, by which it will be brought back to the line of the
"Paris Hotel" and "Harbour Inn;" they having been found satisfactory,
the Town Clerk was instructed to acquaint Messrs. Ash that the
requisite permission was given them to carry out the improvements.
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Folkestone Chronicle 22 February 1862.
Coroner's Inquest.
An inquest was held on Thursday last, February 12th, at the Harbour Inn,
Folkestone, before the new coroner, John Minter Esq., on the body of
Norris Stokes, a hawker of poultry and game, who had committed suicide
on the previous day by hanging himself to a bed post.
The jury, with Mr. H.T. Hale as their foreman, having been sworn, they
proceeded to view the body, which was lying at the Princess Royal public
house.
On their return the first witness called was Filmer Tyas, who being
sworn, stated that he was a labourer, in the employ of Mr. Pilcher, and
that he lodged at the Princess Royal public house. He knew the deceased,
and he believed him to be about 42 years of age. On the Tuesday
previous, deceased came to the house about 9.15. He came into the
taproom and called for a pint of beer, which he sat and drank, and
smoked his pipe. About 9.30 witness got up and went out, and did not
return until between 11 and 12. Deceased had then gone to bed, and
witness saw no more of him until about 12 the next day, when the
landlady enquired if he had seen deceased go out, and asked him to go
upstairs and see. Witness went up, and on opening the bedroom door, saw
deceased hanging to the bed post. He appeared to be on his knees, with
his face towards the door. He had seemed to be in a depressed state of
mind for some time past.
Mary Hobden, being sworn, said – I am the wife of John Hobden, landlord
of the Princess Royal public house. On Tuesday night, about 9 o'clock,
deceased came to our house and asked for a bed. He had frequently been
to the house, but never slept there before. My husband told him he could
have a bed; he asked how much. On being told 6d., he asked if it was a
good bed, and if there were any other beds in the room. He then went
out, but returned in 10 minutes, and called for a pint of porter. He sat
for an hour smoking his pipe. I sat by his side at work. He then paid
his 6d., and I went upstairs with him with a candle to show him in his
room. I drew the curtains, and on looking round, I saw the deceased was
laughing, and he said he did not like anyone else to be in his bedroom.
We heard a slight noise in the night, but it appeared like someone at
the front door. I asked Tyas in the morning if he had seen deceased go
out. On his coming downstairs, and saying the man was dead, my husband
sent for a policeman.
P.C. Woodland, sworn, said – On Wednesday about half past twelve, from
information received, I went to the Princess Royal, South Street. I went
up to the top room in the house. I saw the deceased hanging by a piece
of cord (produced) to the bedstead by a running noose – the knot under
his left ear; his feet were touching the skirting board; his knees were
doubled under him but did not touch the ground. I cut him down – he was
quite dead. I searched his clothes and found a key and a dinner knife
recently sharpened. I have known deceased fifteen years. I remember his
brother Jesse, fourteen years ago, attempting to hang himself in a barn.
Deceased has appeared to be very strange for some time past. An accident
happened to deceased and his brother some time ago; his brother, driving
a cart from Dover, drove over the cliff, since which time deceased has
not appeared right in his mind. Verdict, “Temporary Insanity”.
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From the Folkestone Chronicle 5 April, 1862.
CORRONER'S INQUEST
An inquest was holden yesterday afternoon at the "Harbour Inn,"
Harbour Street, before the Recorder, J. Minter esq., on the body of a
labouring man, named Henry Cheetham, who died very suddenly that
morning, under the circumstances detailed in the evidence below.
The jury were detained upwards of an hour and a half while a
post-mortem examination of the deceased was being made by Messrs Tyson
and Bowles.
The jury, having been sworn, proceeded to view the body, which was
lying in a back room in the above house. On their return the following
witnesses were called.
Thomas Hall, mariner, Folkestone deposed that he knew deceased, who
lived in Folkestone, and had been working on the harbour for some time.
About ten minutes before six on Friday morning, the 4th instant, he met
deceased by the "Royal George."
He noticed that deceased was unsteady in his gait, and asked him whether
anything was the matter. Deceased said he felt very giddy in the head,
and he then reeled, and fell to the ground. Deceased then supported
himself by his hands, and said “Do come and help me”. Witness then took
hold of deceased, and sent for some brandy, and rubbed his temples with
it, and poured some into his mouth, but deceased died in about ten
minutes. Deceased was at work yesterday, and appeared in very good
health.
William Taylor Tyson deposed that he was a surgeon, practicing in
Folkestone; was sent for to see deceased, but he was dead before he
arrived. He had since examined the body of deceased, and although he had
not been able to satisfy himself as to the immediate cause of death,
still he had no doubt that deceased died from natural causes.
The jury returned a verdict that deceased died from the Visitation of
God.
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Folkestone Chronicle 27 September 1862.
Local News.
A melancholy instance of the uncertainty of life occurred on Tuesday
last; on that day Mr. Thomas Golder, who has lately opened the Harbour
Inn, Folkestone, went to Shorncliffe to witness the review, which took
place on that day, returning from thence by way of Sandgate. He remained
for some time there with a few friends, and was about starting for home,
when he was suddenly missed, Search being made for him, he was found
dead in the yard of the house, having apparently fallen dead in a fit.
Death.
On Wednesday, the 23rd inst., at Sandgate, Mr. T. Golder, of the Harbour
Inn, Folkestone, and late master of the brig “Alice”, of Folkestone.
Note: Date is at variance with More Bastions.
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Kentish Gazette 30 September 1862
Mr. Thomas Golder, landlord of the "Harbour Inn," in this town, died
suddenly on Tuesday. He was returning home from Shorncliffe, where
he had been to witness a review, when he fell down in a fit and
expired immediately.
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Folkestone Observer 8 July 1865.
Temporary license has been granted to George Pointer for the Harbour
Inn.
Note: This is at variance with dates in More Bastions.
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Folkestone Chronicle 18 November 1865.
County Court.
Bankrupt
Wednesday 15th November:- Before C. Harwood Esq.
Henry August Herwigg came up for his final examination and discharge,
supported by Mr. Minter. There was no opposition. Defendant had formerly
been an innkeeper, but gave up business six or seven months ago. He
attributed his failure to having had his goods seized under a bill of
sale for rent £16. He had nothing left and was now employed as a servant
at Mr. Denibas' Paris Hotel. His Honour ordered his discharge to be
signed in 30 days.
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Folkestone Observer 18 November 1865.
County Court. Bankrupt.
Wednesday November 15th:- Before C. Harwood Esq.
Henry Herwigg appeared for his final examination. Formerly an innkeeper
but now a servant with no estate.
His Honour fixed next court day to grant an order of discharge.
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Southeastern Gazette 21 November 1865.
Local News.
At a sitting of the County Court on Wednesday (before C. Harwood, Esq.,
Judge), Thomas Herwig came up for his final examination, supported by
Mr. Minter. There was no opposition. Defendant had formerly been an
innkeeper, but gave up business six or seven months ago. He attributed
his failure to having had his goods seized under a bill of sale for
rent—£16. He had nothing left, and was now employed as a servant at Mr.
Denibas', Paris Hotel. His Honour ordered his discharge to be signed in
30 days.
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Southeastern Gazette 22 May 1866.
Transfer of Licence.
At a special sessions held at the Town Hall on Wednesday last, the
following transfer was granted:—The Harbour Inn, from Mr. Pointer to Mr.
Page.
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Folkestone Chronicle 29 December 1866.
Local News.
As the Sprightly, of this port, Mr. C. Page, Harbour Inn, master, bound
from Shields to Folkestone with a cargo of coals, was passing the North
Foreland, a strong smell of burning was noticed, and it was discovered
that the cabin was on fire. By the strenuous exertions of the crew,
after the deck had been broken open so as to command the whole of the
cabin, the flames were extinguished. The origin of the fire is enveloped
in mystery; the damage done is considerable, but the amount cannot be
ascertained until the vessel is put into the hands of the shipwrights
for repair.
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Folkestone Observer 9 October 1869.
Tuesday, October 5th: Before W. Bateman and James Tolputt Esqs.
William Kelly Sergeant, George Kelly, and Michael Moore, gunners in the
10th Brigade, Royal Artillery, were charged with being drunk and riotous
in Dover Street on the night previous. They were also charged with
assaulting the police in the execution of their duty.
Prisoners denied both charges, Kelly saying he was knocked down before
he was aware of it.
P.C. Swain said: About one o'clock on Monday morning I saw Kelly in
company with another artilleryman and two men of the 10th Hussars. They
were knocking at the door of the Royal Engineer, High Street. I told
them they could not get into the house as it was past closing hours.
Kelly was then drunk. They all went away. About two o'clock they were
knocking at the Harbour Inn, and I told them to go away, and Kelly
became insolent. Shortly after two I saw Kelly in company with the other
prisoners, another artilleryman, and two Hussars near Mr. Jordan's,
South Foreland. They were then making a great noise. They left there and
went up Dover Street. I afterwards saw P.S. Reynolds and reported the
circumstances. Some minutes after, P.C. Hills came down, followed by the
prisoners. P.S. Reynolds went up to speak with them. They surrounded the
sergeant, and P.C. Hills and myself went to his assistance. Moore struck
Reynolds at the back of the head, and sent him sprawling. I then took
Moore into custody, when he kicked me on the leg, and I hit him on the
head with the staff. Prisoner then struck at me and I knocked him down
again with my staff. P.C. Hills took Kelly, and the other prisoners ran
away, P.S. Reynolds following. When on the first occasion I saw them in
High Street they said they were out for a spree.
P.S. Reynolds said: I was on duty at the bottom of the town about three
o'clock this morning. P.C. Swain called my attention to some soldiers
who were drunk and riotous in Dover Street. There were the three
prisoners, two Hussars, and a fourth artilleryman. I cautioned them, and
told them not to make any disturbance, and to get out of the town. The
whole of the prisoners were drunk and riotous. One of the soldiers had a
whip and threatened to strike me with it. They surrounded me, and I put
out my hand to keep them off, and Moore hit me with his fist, nearly
knocking me down. I said “Don't murder me” and called P.C. Swain to my
assistance. Sergeant Kelly then came up to me and caught hold of me by
the collar, and I knocked him down with my staff. He got up and ran away
down Radnor Street. I caught him and brought him back. They were very
violent, and struggled. I saw Swain use his staff when he came up. In
High Street Moore kicked and struggled, and I hit him with my staff on
his hands and legs.
Mr. Bateman said the police ought never to use their staffs when a man
was handcuffed.
P.S. Reynolds said the prisoners were not handcuffed.
P.C. Hills said: I was on duty at the bottom of High Street about three
o'clock when Sergeant Reynolds asked me if I had seen any soldiers. I
told him I had not, but soon afterwards they came down Dover Street
shouting. They were drunk. P.S. Reynolds went up to them, but I could
not hear what he said. Shortly after, the sergeant whistled to us, and
we went up to him. He had Moore and Kelly in custody. Moore knocked
Reynolds backward, and before he could recover himself he told me to
take Kelly into custody. The sergeant also told us to draw our staves. I
suppose he gave that order because he got knocked down. Prisoners were
very violent. When we drew our staves, the prisoners said they could use
their whips, and commenced to flourish them about. When I had Kelly in
custody he resisted very much, but with the assistance of Mr. Morford I
put the handcuffs on with his hands behind him. During this time
Sergeant and Kelly ran away. I met the sweep by Mr. Musgrave's in High
Street. I did not use my staff.
Cross-examined: The only cause for locking you up was for hallooing and
shouting.
John Hubbard, a sweep in sooty uniform, said: I was up this morning a
little after three o'clock, and as I was going down High Street I heard
a screaming. When I got down by Dover Street I waited and listened to
ascertain where the screaming came from. I went up Dover Street and saw
P.S. Reynolds, and P.Cs Swain and Hills. There were also the three
soldiers, now in the dock. Moore was very drunk. Sergeant was in a sober
state, and went up civilly; Kelly was also quiet. They were all three in
custody, and making a great noise. Moore and Kelly were resisting. Moore
had hold of Reynolds' hand, and Reynolds asked him to let go, but he
would not, and Reynolds drew his staff. Reynolds used the staff upon
Moore's hand and afterwards on his head. He went down when Reynolds hit
him. Reynolds then asked him to get up, but he would not, and Reynolds
put his hand on his thigh and made Moore moan. Swain then came up and
assisted him. Prisoner had not then got up. Before this Hills asked me
to assist them in getting the prisoners to the station house. I did so.
I did not see that there was any occasion to use the staff. I only saw
one policeman use his staff (P.S. Reynolds), and he made good use of it
when he was about it. It was when Moore was biting him that he used the
staff upon his head. Reynolds did not hit him after he had got his hand
at liberty. I saw him hit Moore once in High Street because he would not
walk.
Mr. Bateman at this stage of the case came to the dock and examined the
prisoner Moore. He said two very heavy blows had been given on his head.
In answer to Kelly, Hubbard said: Although you were handcuffed, Mr.
Hills had as much as he could do to get you along.
By Sergeant: I did not hear you make any noise. You were very quiet.
By Moore: You had hold of Reynolds' hand, biting it. This was the only
provocation for the policemen to use their staves.
By Mr. Tolputt: I did not see any ill-treatment before Moore bit the
sergeant's hand.
The whole of the prisoners denied the charge. Kelly admitted having some
ale, but Sergeant and Moore complained bitterly of their treatment by
the police.
After a consultation, Mr. Bateman said as Sergeant was drunk, and not
riotous, they fined him five shillings and costs, and dismissed the
charge of assault in his case. He (Mr. Bateman) was very sorry the men
had been knocked about, but the policemen had warned the prisoners on
several occasions to go home and not make such a noise, and Reynolds had
himself walked up to them from the bottom of the town, so as to cause no
excitement on the part of the prisoners, and they attacked him. The
policemen were strong men, and they should be merciful as well as
strong. If it were not for the injury the prisoners had received, they
would be more severely punished. The sentence on them would be a month's
imprisonment, with hard labour.
The prisoners Moore and Sergeant presented a very bloody appearance.
Moore had a deep cut over the left eye, a blow on the head – of the pain
of which he complained during the hearing -, also a cut on his right
ear. From these wounds the blood had run over the man's face. Sergeant
had two cuts above his forehead, and the blood had trickled down his
face. Kelly had fortunately come off without any bruises whatever.
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Folkestone Express 9 October 1869.
Tuesday, October 5th: Before W. Bateman and J. Tolputt Esqs.
Michael Moor, 34, William Sergeant, 35, and George Kelly, 31, privates
of Royal Artillery, were charged with being drunk and riotous, and
assaulting P.S. Reynolds and P.C. Swain of the Borough Police. The two
first named prisoners bore evident marks of a struggle, their faces
being covered with blood. Moore had a severe gash over the eye, a wound
on his head, his ear and chin cut. His clothes were torn and covered
with dirt. On being placed in the dock he had to be supplied with water
and accommodated with a seat. The three prisoners pleaded Not Guilty to
all charges.
P,C. Swain deposed that seeing three soldiers in High Street about one
o'clock that morning, making a noise outside the Royal Engineer, he told
them to go away. The prisoner Kelly was then drunk. They went towards
the lower part of the town. He followed them, and saw them knock at the
door of the Harbour Inn. He cautioned them, and ordered them to leave
the town. Shortly after two o'clock he saw them again outside the South
Foreland Inn with three other soldiers (two Hussars and four of the
Royal Artillery). Moor was drunk, and they were all making a great
noise. Sergeant was not so drunk as he others. He ordered them off and
they went towards Dover Street, still making a disturbance. He informed
Sergeant Reynolds of the circumstance, and P.C. Hills, whom he had just
met. They then heard the soldiers coming down Dover Street making a
noise, and Sergeant Reynolds went to them and wished them to be quiet,
when Moor struck him on the back of the head. Witness then took him into
custody, and being kicked by him on the leg, he retaliated by striking
him on the head with his staff. A scuffle ensued, in which Moor was
knocked down in the road, and he cut his head by falling. One of the
soldiers had a loaded whip.
A man at the back of the room said there was a civilian present who saw
the whole occurrence.
P.S. Reynolds, who had his hand bound up, said: I told the prisoners and
the other soldiers to go home and not make a disturbance; they were
outside the late Mr. Hughes' shop. All were drunk. One of the Hussars
shook a whip over my head. Moor struck me on the back of the head and
knocked me up against the wall. I said “Don't murder me”, and told Swain
to take them into custody. Sergeant then came up and took hold of my
collar. I knocked him down. He then got up and ran away and I caught him
in Radnor Street. I did not notice any civilians about. I saw Swain use
his staff. I do not know if he used it after the man was a prisoner. I
used my staff to Moor because he kicked and struggled. (Witness here
showed his hand which had evidently been bit in the struggle).
P.C. Hills said: Sergeant Reynolds went up to the soldiers. Shortly
afterwards he whistled to us, and I and Swain went to his assistance. He
had Moor and Kelly in custody; Moor nearly knocked Reynolds backwards.
He told me to take Kelly into custody and to draw our staffs. The
soldiers were drunk and used bad language. I do not know why we drew our
staffs except because they knocked him down. All the prisoners resisted,
and the Hussars said “If you use your staffs we will use our whips”, and
commenced flourishing them about. A man named Richard Morford assisted
me in handcuffing Kelly. Other civilians were there. I did not use my
staff. The prisoner tried to kick me two or three times.
John Hobart, a sweep, and who appeared in his sables, said: I was going
down High Street at three o'clock, and hearing screaming I proceeded to
the bottom of the street. I met P.S. Reynolds and P.C.s Swain and Hills.
Hills asked me to assist them. Sergeant went up to the station very
quietly; he appeared quite sober. All three were in custody when I met
them; Moor and Kelly resisted a little. Moor took hold of Reynolds' hand
and put it to his mouth. Reynolds told him to let go several times; he
would not, and Reynolds drew his staff and used it on his hand and head;
Moor fell. I do not know if it was from the result of the blow. Reynolds
asked him to get up, and as he would not he put his foot on Moor's thigh
and made him moan. He was taken to the station. I never saw such
ill-treatment as that was. Moor was hit once on the leg going up High
Street because he would not walk.
Mr. Bateman here came from the Bench and examined the prisoner Moor, and
said there were two severe bruises on the head.
Kelly denied making any disturbance; Sergrant said he was knocked down
with a staff before he said a word; Moor said he never insulted anyone,
and had never been treated so before.
The Bench fined Sergeant 5s. and costs for being drunk, and
dismissed the charge of assault. As regards Moor they were sorry he
was knocked about as he had been, but no doubt the police struck
hard in their own defence, and they sentenced Moor and Kelly to
prison for one month.
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Folkestone Chronicle 10 February 1872.
Wednesday, February 7th: Before The Mayor, J. Clark, J. Kelcey, and R.W.
Boarer Esqs.
Charles Page, landlord of the Harbour Inn, was summoned for selling
liquors during prohibited hours on Sunday morning last.
P.C. Sharpe proved the offence. He went into the house and saw several
men drinking.
Defendant admitted the offence and said the house was opened to
accommodate travellers going by the steamer, when strangers came in and
got him into trouble. He had never had any complaint against his house.
The Superintendent said the house had been kept in a most orderly
manner, and he had no other complaint to make against it.
The Bench fined defendant £2 and 9s. costs.
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Folkestone Express 10 February 1872.
Wednesday, February 6th: Before The Mayor, R.W. Boarer, J. Clarke and J.
Kelcey Esqs.
Mr. Charles Page, Harbour Inn, Harbour Street, pleaded Guilty to a
charge of having his house open during prohibited hours on Sunday, 4th
instant.
P.C. Sharpe said he went into the house about 12 o'clock Sunday, and saw
several men drinking at the bar. He spoke to Mrs. Page, who said she was
sorry. The front door was shut, but not fastened.
Mr. Page said he must admit that his house was open. A train had just
come in, and several persons went into his house, and in his absence
Mrs. Page served them. The house was very quiet.
The Mayor said defendant had rendered himself liable to a penalty of £5,
but taking into consideration that it was the first offence, and that a
train had just arrived and travellers were amongst those who were in the
house, he would be fined £2 and 9s. costs.
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Folkestone Chronicle 24 February 1872.
Saturday, February 17th: Before The Mayor and J. Tolputt Esq.
William Cork was charged with being in the Harbour Inn during prohibited
hours on Sunday, the 11th of February.
This was the first conviction under the new Licensing Act, and defendant
said he considered that it was very unjust that he should be selected,
as he was convinced there were more than thirty people in the house
drinking at the time, but who were fortunate enough to escape the
observation of the police.
The Bench fined him 2s. 6d., and 9s. costs. The fine was paid.
Alexander Maycock and James Seddons jun., were summoned for the same
offence. They pleaded guilty, and asked to be let off lightly. They were
each fined 2s. 6d. and 9s. costs. The fines in this instance were also
paid.
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Folkestone Express 24 February 1872.
Saturday, February 17th: Before The Mayor and J. Tolputt Esq.
William Corbe, Alexander Maycock, and James Siddon pleaded Guilty to
being in the Harbour Inn during illegal hours on Sunday, 4th instant,
and were fined 2s. 6d. and 9s. costs each, which they paid.
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Folkestone Express 30 November 1878.
Saturday, November 23rd: Before The Mayor, Colonel De Crespigny, and
Alderman Caister.
Mr. Page, landlord of the Harbour Inn, applied for an hour's extension
on the occasion of a public supper at his house, and the Bench
refused, advising him to fix on an earlier hour for commencing.
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Folkestone Express 5 May 1888.
Advertisement.
Harbour Hotel, Folkestone, To be let, with early possession. For
particulars apply to Messrs. Worsfold and Hayward, Auctioneers and
Valuers, Market Square, Dover.
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Holbein's Visitors' List 16 April 1890.
Inquest.
An inquest was held by the Borough Coroner (John Minter Esq.) on the
body of Charles Tilley Adams, aged 35, landlord of the Oddfellows Arms
(sic), Dover Street.
Frederick Adams, an attendant at the Exhibition, identified the body as
that of his brother. Deceased had been at the Oddfellows Arms about
seven years; he was married and had five children. Previous to taking
the Oddfellows Arms, he was a steward on board the South Eastern
Company's boats. Witness saw him alive on Sunday night at his house. He
was then quite cheerful, and had always been in the best of spirits. He
was in comfortable circumstances and had a happy home. He was in the
habit of getting up early in the morning to go for a walk on the pier –
that was his constant walk. He could swim “like a fish”. Witness' own
idea was that he must have slipped over from the pier, and struck
something in falling, which was the cause of his body floating so long.
There were no external marks of violence on the body and deceased was
not subject to fits.
Bartholomew Noonan, a navy pensioner, now employed as Harbour Porter,
said he knew the deceased, and had seen him several times on the pier.
Had seen him that morning about 7.10 when he was on the promenade near
the station extension, going towards the pier. The deceased said “Good
morning” to witness and his mate. Did not see anything strange in his
manner. There was no boat coming into the harbour, but a small boat
belonging to one of the steamers was going out. After doing a little
work, which occupied him about ten minutes, witness saw something
floating about six or seven yards from the end of the pier. On looking
again, saw it was the body of a man, floating face downwards. He ran to
get a boat hook, and also told the three men in the boat that there was
a man in the water. They recovered the body and brought it ashore.
Henry Young, harbour boatman, said that at about 7.40 the previous
witness sang out to him and his mate that there was a body at the end of
the pier. They rowed to the place and got hold of the body with a boat
hook. Witness, who was in the stern of the boat, then got hold of it
with his hands, keeping the head up out of the water, and his mate rowed
back to the pier as quickly as possible. The body was about 100 yards
from the pier. It did not occur to them that it was possible to attempt
to restore animation before reaching shore, but they were only a few
minutes reaching the pier, and all the usual methods for restoring the
apparently drowned were then employed, but without success.
Edward Morris, who was in the boat with last witness, having
corroborated his evidence, Dr. Frederick Eastes said that he was called
at eight o'clock to see the deceased. Had not found any external marks
of violence on the body. He was not certain that the cause of death was
drowning, because the body was found floating so soon after the man had
been seen alive. There was froth coming from the mouth, which was one of
the signs of drowning. There was no other external sign which would
point to drowning or any other cause of death. The body of a person
drowned did not usually rise to the surface for some days. There were
several things, such as fits, concussion of the brain, a blow received
when falling, syncope, &c., which would cause the body to float. If any
of those things happened the water would not be drawn into the lungs so
much as in the struggles of a drowning person, and the body would be
more likely to float.
The Coroner said he remembered holding an inquest on a gentleman who was
thrown out of a boat by it's capsizing, and fell in the water face
downwards, his head and body never going under water.
Dr. Eastes said that the best proof that death was by drowning would be
the quantity of water found in the stomach, but he had not made a post
mortem examination.
John Boorn (one of the jury) tendered himself as a witness. At 7.10 the
deceased called at witness' house, the Harbour Inn, and had two
pennyworth of rum and a halfpennyworth of milk. He was perfectly sober
and asked witness “how things were looking”. In reply to witness he said
that things were pretty well, and that he had had a fair day on Sunday.
Had known deceased a good many years, and on that morning he was as well
as he had ever seen him. It was about 7.15 when he left, and he was all
right then.
The Coroner said they had two questions to decide – what was the cause
of death, and was it accidental or self-inflicted. It seemed to him that
all the evidence pointed to accidental death by drowning, but as the
doctor was not positive as to whether it was really a case of drowning
they must word their verdict as they felt best.
The jury returned a verdict of Found Dead, and, at the suggestion of the
Coroner, added the words “supposed through accidentally falling into the
water”.
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Folkestone Chronicle 19 April 1890.
Inquest.
The Folkestone Borough Coroner (J. Minter Esq.) held an inquest at the
Town Hall on Wednesday evening on the body of Charles Tilley Adams, who
was found dead in the sea off the Lighthouse Jetty at Folkestone on
Monday morning.
The jury having viewed the body, Frederick Adams said he was turnstile
keeper at the Exhibition Palace. The deceased was his brother. He was 35
years of age. He identified the body which the jury had just viewed as
that of his brother, Charles Tilley Adams. The deceased was the landlord
of the Oddfellows Arms (sic), Dover Street. He had occupied the house
seven years, and was married with five children. Previous to taking the
Oddfellows Arms he was Chief Steward in the employ of the South Eastern
Railway Company. He last saw him alive at his house on Sunday night at
ten o'clock. The deceased was very cheerful. He was always cheerful, and
witness had never seen him in a desponding condition. Deceased was in
the habit of getting up early in the morning to take a walk on the pier.
The deceased was a good swimmer. Witness was of opinion that he must
have slipped over the side of the pier whilst watching the boats come
round, and it was very probable that he struck something in falling.
By the Foreman: Deceased was not subject to fits.
Bartholomew Noonan, a harbour porter, stated that he knew the deceased,
and had seen him several times walking on the pier. Witness saw him
between five and ten minutes past seven that morning. Witness was
standing behind the Customs House. The deceased said “Good morning” as
he passed. Did not notice anything strange in his manner. There was no
boat going in the harbour. One went out about half an hour afterwards.
Witness followed down on to the pier about ten minutes after the
deceased and, happening to look over the head of the pier, observed the
body of deceased floating in the water about six yards to the west of
the pier (the Lighthouse Jetty). The body was floating head downwards.
Witness saw one of the Company's little boats going out of the harbour,
and they picked it up.
Henry Young deposed that he was a harbour boatman in the employ of the
South Eastern Railway Company. About twenty minutes to eight that
morning he was going out of the harbour with a little boat to get the
steamer alongside, when the last witness told him there was a body
floating at the end of the pier. He rowed to the place and secured the
body with a boathook. It was about 100 yards off the pier.
Edward Morris, another harbour boatman, said he was in company with
Young when the body was recovered. It appeared to be quite dead. They
moved the legs and arms when they got ashore, but there were no signs of
life.
Dr. Frederick Eastes said he was called upon to see the deceased at
eight o'clock that morning. Upon examining the body he found him to be
dead. There were no marks of violence, but he was not certain that death
resulted from drowning. There was froth in the mouth, which was one sign
of drowning. There were no other signs of drowning, or death from any
other cause. The body was floating, and that was one reason why he could
not say positively that death resulted from drowning. A body did not
generally rise to the surface for several days. There were several
causes why the body might not sink. Apoplexy or a fit would cause it to
float, or concussion of the brain from injuries received in falling. He
had not held a post mortem examination.
John Boorn, a juryman, elected to give evidence. He said that the
deceased called at the Harbour Inn at ten minutes past seven that
morning. He had 2d. of rum and 1/2 d. of milk. He was quite sober, and
asked witness how things were looking. Witness said “Very well. What
sort of day did you have yesterday?” He replied “Very good”. He was in
good spirits and left about quarter or twenty minutes past seven.
The Corner, in summing up, said it was a very curious fact that the
deceased's father, who was formerly Chief Steward on board the South
Eastern boats, was drowned whilst bathing in East Wear Bay. He was also
a splendid swimmer. He (the Coroner) believed the deceased's elder
brother was drowned in Hong Kong whilst bathing.
The jury returned a verdict of Found Dead; the supposed cause being
through drowning.
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Folkestone Express 19 April 1890.
Inquest.
An inquest was held on Monday before J. Minter Esq., Coroner, on the
body of Charles Tilley Adams, landlord of the Oddfellows Arms (sic),
Dover Street, who was found in the sea near the Pier, on the morning of
the 14th inst.
Frederick Adams, cash-taker at the Exhibition, identified the body as
that of his brother, his age being 35. He was a married man with five
children. He had been landlord of the Oddfellows Arms seven years, and
previous to that he was a steward in the S.E.R. Company's service. He
last saw deceased at his house on the previous night at ten o'clock. He
was in the best of spirits, and had always been of a cheerful
disposition. He was in comfortable circumstances, and had a happy home.
He was in the habit of going for a walk early in the morning on the pier
and harbour, that being his usual habit. Deceased could swim very well.
He imagined that deceased was leaning over looking at the boat, when he
slipped over, and swam about as long as he could, and was then drowned.
Batholomew Noonan, a harbour porter, said he knew the deceased by sight.
He had seen him several times walking up and down the pier. He saw
deceased that morning at about five minutes to seven. He was going
towards the pier, and said “Good morning” to him. That was just by the
gate leading from the beach to the pier. The boat would be going out of
the harbour about twenty minutes later. About ten minutes after he went
down on to the pier, and happening to look over into the sea, he saw a
body floating about six or seven yards from the west end of the S.E.R.
pier, face downwards in the water. He hailed a boat coming out of the
harbour and told the occupants, who went and picked the body up.
Henry Young, harbour boatman, said about twenty minutes to eight that
morning the last witness shouted to him and George Bates that there was
a body floating in the water at the end of the pier. They rowed to it,
and recovered the body and brought it ashore. The body was a few yards
from the west pier.
Edward Morris, a mariner in the employ of the S.E.R. Company, said he
rowed out with the last witness and brought the body ashore. When the
body was brought up on to the pier they tried the usual means to produce
artificial respiration, but without success.
Dr. F. Eastes said that morning at eight o'clock he was called to the
pier to see the deceased. On examining the body he found him to be dead.
He could find no external marks of violence. He was not certain that the
cause of death was drowning, because of the body floating. There was
froth in the mouth, which was one of the signs of drowning, and there
was no other sign that would point to drowning or any other cause of
death. The body was floating so soon after he was seen alive. A body did
not rise for some days usually. A fit or injury would cause a body to
float immediately after death.
John Boorn, a juryman, said that the deceased called at the Harbour Inn
at about ten minutes past seven that morning. He had two pennyworth of
rum and some milk. He was perfectly sober, quite cheerful, and in good
spirits.
The jury returned a verdict of Found Dead, the supposed cause being
drowning through accidentally falling into the sea.
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Folkestone News 19 April 1890.
Inquest.
Mr. John Minter, Borough Coroner, held an inquest at the Town Hall on
Monday evening, touching the death of Charles Tilley Adams, whose body
was found floating off the pier head at Folkestone harbour on Monday
morning.
The jury having been sworn, the following evidence was adduced:
Frederick Adams, living at 32, Dover Street, and employed by the
Folkestone Pleasure Gardens Company said: The deceased was my brother.
His age was 35. He was married, and has left a wife and five children.
He was landlord of the Oddfellows Arms (sic), 34, Dover Street. The body
now viewed by the jury I identify as my brother. On the body being found
it was brought to 32, Dover Street. He has had the Oddfellows for seven
years, and was previously the chief steward in the S.E.R. Company's
boats. I last saw deceased alive on Sunday evening at 10 o'clock at his
house. He was then in the best of spirits, and has always been cheerful.
He was in comfortable circumstances, and had a happy home. He was, to my
knowledge, in the habit of getting up early and taking his accustomed
walk on the harbour. He could swim like a fish, to use a common saying,
and my idea is that he fell over the pier head accidentally when
watching the boat coming round from the harbour to the pier head. He was
leaning over most likely where there are no chains, and lost his balance
and fell over. He must have struck something in falling, and that
accounts for him swimming so long on the water. There are no marks upon
him.
Batholomew Noonan said: I am a Navy pensioner and harbour porter, and am
working on the pier. I knew deceased by sight, and have seen him several
times walking on the pier. I saw him this morning between five and ten
minutes past seven. He was going through the gates at the entrance to
the two stations, which leads to the beach, and went towards the
promenade. He said “Good morning” to me and another man. He went in the
direction of the pier, and I noticed nothing strange in his manner.
There was no boat coming in. A boat would be coming out from the harbour
about half an hour later. I went to the end of the pier about ten
minutes after, and, looking over into the sea, saw something floating on
the water about six or seven yards from the corner of the pier, to the
west. I told the man at the engine, and afterwards found it was a body
floating, with the face downwards. I told the man in a boat, and they
went and picked him up.
Henry Young said: I am harbour boatman. This morning, about twenty
minutes to eight, Noonan sung out to us that there was a woman or man
afloat outside the harbour. I was in my boat with George Bates and we
rowed out to the body, and got hold of it with a boat hook and brought
it ashore. I did not see deceased on the pier that morning. The body was
floating about a hundred yards off the west pier.
Edward Morris, mariner, in the employ of the S.E.R. Company, said: At
half past seven I was with the last witness in the boat and we recovered
the body. After we got him on the pier we tried to restore him, but
found there was no life in him. I was in the stern of the boat and held
the body up with the head out of the water. I did not know then who it
was.
Dr. Fred. Eastes said: At eight o'clock I went to the pier to see the
deceased. I found him dead, and on examining the body saw no external
marks of violence. I cannot be certain that the cause of death was
drowning, because the body was floating. There was one sign of drowning,
froth from the mouth. No other sign could be found externally. In cases
of drowning the body doesn't usually float on the surface of the water
for some days. Other causes of death might be apoplexy, syncope, fits of
different kinds, when the body would be kept from sinking, as the water
would not be drawn into the lungs like it is in the struggles caused by
drowning. If the jury desired, it could be decided whether deceased was
drowned by seeing if there was water inside the body.
John Boorn, one of the jury, offered to give evidence, and the Coroner
said he was entitled to do so. He said: About ten minutes past seven
this morning the deceased called into the Harbour Inn, and had two
pennyworth of rum and a half pennyworth of milk. He was quite sober and
asked how I was getting on. I asked him how he was; he said he was
pretty well, and was going on the harbour for a walk. He was perfectly
cheerful.
The Coroner summed up, and said it appeared to him that all the
circumstances pointed to the fact that the deceased came by his death
through an accident in the manner described by his brother. With regard
to the doctor's evidence, he remembered the case of a man falling into
the sea from a boat, when he was drowned although the body floated on
the water till picked up. There was no evidence to show how the deceased
in the present instance came into the water, and it was for the jury to
say by their verdict how, in their opinion, death was caused.
After a short consultation the jury found a verdict of Found Dead.
The Coroner suggested that the jury were of opinion deceased was
drowned, and that he came into the sea by an accident.
This was assented to by the jury.
The Coroner said it was a curious fatality in the family that the father
of deceased was drowned in East Wear Bay while bathing, and the eldest
son, he understood, was also drowned at Hong Kong.
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Folkestone Express 26 April 1890.
Wednesday April 23rd: Before J. Clarke and H.W. Poole Esqs.
The licence of the Harbour Inn was transferred to Fanny Boorn.
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Folkestone Express 15 November 1890.
Licence Transfer.
Saturday, November 8th: Before The Mayor, J. Fitness, E.T. Ward and S.
Penfold Esqs.
The licence of the Harbour Inn was transferred to Mr. Jos. Arch.
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Folkestone Express 13 December 1890.
Transfer.
Wednesday, December 10th: Before The Mayor, Col. De Crespigny, Surgeon
General Gilbourne, Alderman Banks and W.G. Herbert Esq.
The licence of the Harbour Inn was transferred to Joseph Arch.
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Folkestone Chronicle 13 February 1892.
Saturday, February 6th: Before The Mayor, Alderman Banks. Major H.W.
Poole, and W.G. Herbert Esq.
James Alfred Hawkins and Henry Trevy, gunners belonging to the Royal
Artillery, were summoned for breaking a window at the Harbour Inn.
Joseph Arch, landlord of the Harbour Inn, said he heard a crash as he
was closing his house at 11 o'clock on the 15th ult. He went outside and
saw the defendants, who now pleaded Guilty.
They were each fined 5s. and 11s. costs, also 3s. damages.
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Folkestone Express 13 February 1892.
Saturday, February 6th: Before The Mayor, Alderman Banks, H.W. Poole and
W.G. Herbert Esqs.
James Alfred Hawkins and Andrew Trevy, privates in the Atillery, were
charged with breaking a window at the Harbour Inn.
Joseph Arch said on Friday, January 15th, at five minutes to eleven, he
was closing the house, when he heard a crash and found the sitting room
window was crushed in. He ran outside and saw the two defendants. He
spoke civilly to them, and asked why they broke his window, and they
abused him. The value of the glass was stated by Mr. Waddell, who
repaired it, to be 6s.
An officer of the battery said the defendants expressed regret, and had
tendered the value of the damages to the complainant.
Mr. Arch said the 6s. was not offered until after the summons was
issued. He had waited then for a week. He offered to withdraw the
summons if the expenses were paid.
Defendants were fined 5s., 1s. costs, and damage 3s.
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Folkestone Herald 13 February 1892.
Saturday, February 6th: Before The Mayor, Alderman Banks, Mr. Poole and
Mr. Herbert.
James Hawkins and Henry Truby, privates in the R.A., were charged on the
complaint of Mr. Joseph Arch, landlord of the Harbour Hotel, with
breaking a pane of glass. They pleaded Guilty.
On Friday, January 15th, the complainant was closing his house, when he
heard the smashing of glass, and found that a window of the sitting room
had been broken. He went outside, and seeing defendants near, asked them
civilly why they had broken his window, when they became abusive, and
threatened to strike him. The damage done amounted to 6s. He
communicated with the commanding officer, and getting no reply for a
week, took out a summons.
An officer present in Court said the six shillings were sent to Mr.
Arch. But that, the complainant said, was after he had taken out the
summons.
The Mayor told them they were liable to two months' imprisonment without
the option of a fine. It was disgraceful that men wearing Her Majesty's
uniform should act in such a manner. They were fined 5s. each, and
ordered to pay 3s. damage, and 11s. costs; total for the two, 38s.
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Folkestone Chronicle 5 March 1892.
Monday, February 29th: Before Major H.W. Poole and W.G. Herbert Esq.
Mr. J. Arch applied for a licence to sell intoxicating liquors on the
football ground on Wednesday, on the occasion of the match between
Chatham and the Highland Light Infantry. It was mentioned that a special
licence was sometimes granted for cricket matches, but Superintendent
Taylor said it was not on all fours with a cricket match, as a football
match would probably last only about an hour.
The Bench refused the application.
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Folkestone Express 5 March 1892.
Monday, February 29th: Before H.W. Poole and W.G. Herbert Esqs.
Mr. Arch applied for an occasional licence for the football field on the
occasion of the match on Wednesday. The Bench considered it unnecessary
and refused the application.
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Folkestone Chronicle 30 July 1892.
Saturday, July 23rd: Before Mr. H.W. Poole, Surgeon General Gilbourne,
and Mr. W.G. Herbert.
Mr. Richard Cooper, on behalf of the Overseers of the Poor, applied for
a commitment warrant against Joseph Arch, late landlord of the Harbour
Hotel, who had failed to pay the Poor Rate. He stated that the
defendant's furniture was claimed by the owners of the house – George
Beer and Co.
The Bench issued a warrant for one month's imprisonment.
Monday, July 25th: Before Mr. H.W. Poole, Messrs.J. Brooke, J. Wightwick,
W.G. Herbert, and Alderman Dunk.
On behalf of Samuel Barker, a chair maker, Mr. F. Hall applied for
transfer of the licence of the Harbour Inn. He stated that Barker was
already in possession, and he intended carrying out his duties in
accordance with the terms of the licence. A testimonial was produced
from Mr. J. Lea, of Harbour Street. Mr. Hall further stated that when
application was made to Arch for him to give up the licence, it was not
forthcoming, and it was subsequently found that it had been deposited
with a solicitor, for him to hold as collateral security on an advance
made to Arch.
Mr. Bradley held it was not necessary to produce the licence. The fact
that it was registered in the books of the Court was sufficient evidence
of it's existence.
Mr. Hall held that Arch had no right to pledge the licence.
Mr. Bradley said he did not agree with him. Arch had a right to do as he
pleased with his own property.
The transfer was granted.
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Folkestone Express 30 July 1892.
Poor Rate Warrant.
Saturday, July 23rd: Before H.W. Poole and W.G. Herbert Esqs., and
Surgeon General Gilbourne.
A warrant of distress was issued against Joseph Arch, of the Harbour
Inn, and when Mr. Barton made a levy he met with a notice that the goods
were the property of the brewers, Messrs. Beer and Co.
Mr. Richard Cooper, the Assistant Overseer, therefore asked for a
committal order against the defendant, and the Bench issued a warrant of
commitment for a month.
Wednesday, July 27th: Before The Mayor, W. Wightwick, J. Brooke and W.G.
Herbert Esqs.
Samuel Barker applied for temporary authority to sell at the Harbour
Inn.
Mr. Hall, who appeared for the applicant, said the licence was not
forthcoming. He believed the previous holder had deposited it as
collateral security for an advance.
The Magistrates' Clerk said the register of licenses was sufficient for
that day's purposes. When the licence holder went out of the premises,
it was his duty to give it up.
Temporary authority was granted.
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Folkestone Herald 30 July 1892.
Police Court Jottings.
A legal question cropped up consequent upon the application of Mr.
Samuel barker, for whom Mr. Hall appeared, for a temporary licence to
sell at the Harbour Inn.
Mr. Hall explained that the previous tenant was a man named Arch, who
had already given up possession, but when the applied for the licence,
it was not forthcoming. He believed the secret was, judging by a letter
he had received from a solicitor in the town, that Arch had pawned his
licence as collateral security for an advance to a Mr. Geo. Beer. Of
course, he had no right to do that, and he asked the Bench to exercise
the powers they had, under the Act dealing with the wilful withholding
of a licence, to give the required endorsement.
The Magistrates' Clerk ruled that it would be sufficient for the
application to be made on transfer day. With regard to pledging the
licence, he was of opinion the man had a right to do so, as it was his,
but when he left the house he should have given it up to the landlord,
whose property it became. As he did not give it up, that would amount to
wilful withholding, and it would be right for the Bench to grant the
permit without seeing the licence, and this was accordingly done.
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Folkestone Chronicle 6 August 1892.
Wednesday, August 3rd: Before Mr. J. Holden and Mr. Fitness.
Mr. Hall, on behalf of Samuel Barton, applied for the licence of the
Harbour Inn.
Mr. Rooke said he was instructed to watch the case on behalf of the
mortgagee, who was the present holder of the licence.
Mr. Hall said in this case the previous tenant had yielded up possession
of the house, and held that it was now open to the magistrates to grant
a new licence.
Mr. Rooke contested this point, and cited a case from Stone's Justices
Manual.
Mr. Hall said the licence had been pawned to the mortgagee, but a
licence was of no value.
Mr. Bradley explained that the late tenant (Mr. Joseph Arch) had yielded
up possession of the house, and Mr. Hall now applied for a new licence.
If a man were fool enough to lend money on an ale-house licence it was
his own look out.
Mr. Rooke: Then I submit that fourteen days' notice should have been
given.
Mr. Bradley said no notice was required in this case. The application
was granted.
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Folkestone Chronicle 27 August 1892.
Annual Licensing Session.
Folkestone Clergymen on Licensing.
Wednesday, August 24th: Before Mr. J. Clark, Alderman Pledge, Councillor
Holden, and Messrs. J. Fitness, J. Boykett, H.W. Poole and W. Wightwick.
Mr. A.H. Gardner said he had been instructed by the Church of England
Temperance Society, not in any spirit of antagonism towards the Bench,
but in order that they might know the Society's views upon the subject,
to put before them a resolution, passed the other day at the Vestry of
the Parish Church, the Rev. M. Woodward presiding. The resolution was to
the effect that the clergymen representing the various churches in the
town, respectfully asked the Bench not to grant any new licenses, except
to private hotels and restaurants, such to be used for bona fide
customers, and not for bars, etc. He also added that he was particularly
urged to ask the Bench not to grant any additional licenses to grocers,
as such licenses were fraught with very mischievous consequences,
inasmuch as they held out great temptations to women. Mr. Gardner stated
that the clergymen further added that the meeting also desired the Bench
to consider the propriety of refusing the renewal of the licenses of
those persons who had been convicted during the past year, and, in
conclusion, they pointed out the great preponderance of public houses
east of Alexandra Gardens over those west of the Gardens.
The Bench then proceeded with the renewal of the licenses.
The Harbour Inn.
Mr. Rooke, who appeared on behalf of the Temperance Party, asked the
Bench to adjourn granting the renewal of this licence, as he wished to
obtain a writ of certiorari in order that the validity of renewing this
licence might be considered by a higher Court. As the Bench knew, the
former landlord parted with his licence for a pecuniary consideration to
a certain gentleman, who now held the same. In the face of this, he
held, the Bench could not grant another licence, and hence his request
for an adjournment.
Mr. Hall said the Bench had already granted the licence to his client –
Barker – and that day they came before them for a renewal only. Mr.
Rooke had let the time go by when he ought to have taken action in the
matter.
Mr. Worsfold Mowll appeared for the owners of the property, and he said
that Mr. Hall was perfectly correct in his application. The licence had
been granted by the Bench, and all Mr. Hall wanted now was a renewal.
Mr. Rooke said the law allowed them six months in which to apply for a
writ. They had taken counsel's opinion upon this subject, and he held
that they were right in their application.
Mr. Bradley advised the Bench to grant the licence.
The Chairman announced that it would be granted.
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Folkestone Express 27 August 1892.
Annual Licensing Day.
Wednesday, August 24th: Before J. Clark, Alderman Pledge, W. Wightwick,
J. Fitness, J. Holden, H.W. Poole, and F. Boykett Esqs.
Mr. A.H. Gardner said he had been instructed by the Church of England
Temperance Society, presided over by the Vicar of Folkestone, to appear
before the justices. He did not do so in any spirit of dictation to the
Bench, but that they might see the views of the Society upon the
subject, and he would put in a resolution passed the other day at a
meeting held in the vestry, asking the justices not to grant any new
licenses, except to private hotels or restaurants. It also particularly
urged that grocer's licenses were peculiarly fraught with mischief as
giving great facilities to women. They also thought that the number of
licenses, of which there were 82, should be reduced, especially where
there had been convictions for violation of the law. They did not
specially single out any particular houses, but they thought when there
had been recent convictions, they might refuse the renewal of licenses
to such houses. Further they especially called attention to the
preponderance in the number of houses at the lower end of the town –
there were 79 east of Alexandra Gardens, while there were only three on
the west. Mr. Gardner also referred to the fact that the magistrates
last year refused to renew in English counties 117 licenses, and in
boroughs as many as 101.
The Harbour Inn.
Mr. F. Hall appeared in support of the application for a renewal of the
licence of the Harbour Inn to Mr. Barker.
Mr. Rook asked that it might not be considered until the adjourned
licensing day, in order that he might have time to give notice of a
technical objection.
Mr. Hall said he appeared on behalf of the applicant when the licence
was granted. He applied under the Act 9 George IV, and he read the
section and contended that he was entitled to claim the renewal of the
licence. Mr. Rook was under a wrong impression as to what had occurred.
His proper course was to appeal or to apply for a writ of certiorari to
bring up the licence to have it quashed. Instead of that he asked for it
to be adjourned.
Mr. Mowll said he appeared for the owners of the property; and of course
the Bench knew that notice of objection had to be given both to owners
and tenants. What Mr. Hall had said was perfectly correct. The Bench
gave their decision, and it was optional for Mr. Rook to have applied
for a certiorari, but he allowed it to go by. Therefore the man was
there under his licence. Whether the licence was properly granted or not
did not then matter at all.
Mr. Rook replied that he could apply for a certiorari within six months.
But it was rather for convenience than otherwise. He quite agreed with
what Mr. Mowll had said. He might say that they had taken counsel's
opinion.
Mr. Hall said he objected to counsel's opinion being introduced.
Mr. Bradley said he had seen the counsel's opinion, but he could not
understand what case was submitted upon which the opinion was given.
Mr. Mowll said he did not say it to flatter the Magistrates' Clerk, but
as far as the licensing law was concerned, his (Mr. Bradley's) opinion
was as good as any counsel's opinion that could possibly be obtained.
Mr. Bradley said that under the Act of '29 no notice was required.
Mr. Rook said he concurred that no notice whatever was required under
the Act of '29. But he submitted that the 74th section of the Licensing
Act of '72 defined what a transfer of licence was.
Mr. Mowll said they were quite ready to take the renewal of the licence,
and run the risk of the certiorari.
Mr. Bradley said, assuming the order was bad, the man was perfectly
entitled to come and ask for a renewal. Then there could be two writs
applied for, one to quash the original order and one to quash the
present order.
The renewal was granted.
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Folkestone Chronicle 16 September 1893.
Local News.
Not many hours had elapsed since the Town Hall was occupied by a gay and
brilliant company who were enjoying the pleasures of the terpsichorean
art, when a gathering of a very different nature took place within it's
walls at eleven o'clock on Wednesday morning. In the short space which
had elapsed the Hall had been denuded of all it's tasty decorations and
luxurious appointments, and had put on it's everyday appearance for the
transaction of the business of the Special Licensing Session, which had
been appointed for the purpose of dealing with the licenses to which
notice of opposition had been given by the police.
At the end of the Hall, backed by high red baize screens, raised seats
had been arranged for the accommodation of the Licensing Justices. Here
at eleven o'clock the chair was taken by Mr. J. Clark, ho was
accompanied on the Bench by Alderman Pledge, Messrs. Holden, Hoad,
Fitness, Davey, Poole, and Herbert.
Immediately in front of the Bench were tables for the accommodation of
Counsel and other members of the legal profession, while in close
proximity were seats for Borough Magistrates who were not members of the
Licensing Committee, and for the brewers and agents interested in the
cases that were to occupy the attention of the Bench. The body of the
Hall was well filled with members of the trade and the general public,
whilst there was quite an array of members of the police force who were
present to give evidence.
Objection to a Temperance Magistrate.
Mr. Glyn, barrister, who, with Mr. Bodkin, appeared in support of the
opposed licenses, made an objection at the outset against Mr. Holden
occupying a seat on the Bench. Mr. M. Bradley (solicitor, Dover), who
appeared on behalf of the Temperance Societies, rose to address the
Bench on the point, but an objection was taken on the ground that he had
no locus standi. The Magistrates retired to consider this matter, and on
their return to the court they were not accompanied by Mr. Holden, whose
place on the Committee was taken by Mr, Pursey.
Mr. Glyn's Opening.
Mr. Glyn said he had consulted with the Superintendent of Police, and
had agreed to take first the case of the Queen's Head. He accordingly
had to apply for the renewal of the licence. The Queen's Head was
probably known by all the gentlemen on the Bench as an excellent house.
The licence had been held for a considerable number of years, and the
present tenant had had it since 1889. It was a valuable property, worth
some £1,500, and the tenant had paid no less than £305 valuation on
entering the house. He need hardly tell the Bench that the licence was
granted a great many years ago by their predecessors, and it had been
renewed from time to time until the present. The Superintendent of
Police was now objecting on the ground that it was not required, and
that it was kept disorderly. With regard to the objection of the
Superintendent to all these licenses, he (Mr. Glyn) thought he would
admit when he went into the box that it was not an objection he was
making on his own grounds, but an objection made in pursuance of
instructions received from some of the members of the Licensing
Committee. Of course a very nice question might arise as to whether
under the circumstances the requirements of the section had been
complied with, and as to the Superintendent acting, if he might say so,
as agent for some of the justices had no locus standi at all to oppose
these licenses. The Superintendent of Police, in his report, states that
he raised these objections “in pursuance of instructions received from
the Magistrates”. Therefore, those gentlemen who gave those instructions
were really in this position: That having themselves directed an enquiry
they proposed to sit and adjudicate upon it. He knew there was not a
single member of that Bench who would desire to adjudicate upon any case
which he had pre-judged by directing that the case should be brought
before him for that particular purpose, and he only drew their attention
to the matter. He did not suppose it would be the least bit necessary to
enquire into it, because he felt perfectly sure, on the grounds he was
going to put before the Bench, that they would not refuse to renew any
one of these licenses. But he thought it right to put these facts before
them, in order, when they retired, that they might consider exactly what
their position was.
There was another thing, and it applied to all these applications. There
was not a single ratepayer in the whole of this borough who had been
found to oppose the renewal of any of the licenses. The first ground of
objection was that the licenses were not required. He repeated that no
ratepayer could be found who was prepared to come before the Bench and
raise such a point. No notice had been given by anybody except by the
Superintendent, who had given it acting upon the instructions of the
Bench.
He understood that even the Watch Committee, which body one generally
thought would be expected to get the ball rolling, had declined to have
anything to do with the matter, and had declined to sanction any legal
advice for the purpose of depriving his clients of what was undoubtedly
their property. He ventured to say, with some little experience of these
matters, that there never was a case where licenses were taken away on
the ground that they were not required, simply because some of the
learned Magistrates thought the matter ought to be brought before them,
without any single member of the public raising any objection to any of
the licenses, and the Watch Committee not only keeping perfectly quiet,
but declining to enter into the contest.
He was dealing with the case of the Queen's Head, but his remarks would
also apply to the others, with the exception of the cases of three
beer-houses, the licenses of which were granted before the passing of
the 1869 Act, and his client was, therefore, absolutely entitled to a
renewal. With regard to the other licenses, they were granted a great
many years ago. Although at that time the population of the Borough was
about half of what it is now the Magistrates thought they were required
then. They had been renewed from time to time since then, and were the
Magistrates really to say that licenses which were required for a
population of 12,000 were not necessary for a population of 25,000? He
ventured to say, if such an argument were raised by the other side, that
it was an absurdity. He should ask the Bench to consider first, and if
they formed an opinion on it it would save time, whether having regard
to the fact that all the licenses were granted a great many years ago
when the population was nothing what like it is now, and also that there
had not been a single conviction since the renewals last year. They were
prepared to refuse the renewal of any of the licenses. He asked them to
decide upon that point, because it decided the whole thing.
Some of the objections were only raised on the ground that the licenses
were not required; others referred to the fact that there had been
previous convictions, or that the houses had been kept in a disorderly
manner. With regard to any conviction before the date of the last
renewal he contended that the Bench had, by making the renewal, condoned
any previous offence. In not one single instance had there been a
conviction during the past year in respect of one of the houses for
which he asked for a renewal, and he ventured to put to the Bench what
he understood to be an elementary principle of British justice, that
they would not deprive the owner of his property simply because it was
suggested that the house had not been properly conducted, and where that
owner had never had an opportunity of appearing before the Bench in
answer to any charge which had been brought against his tenant. He
challenged anybody to show that there was a single case in any Bench
where a license had been taken away after renewal without there being a
criminal charge made against that house, but only a general charge to
the Licensing Committee.
Mr. Bodkin, who followed, reminded the Bench of their legal position
with regard to the renewal of licenses, and quoted the judgement of Lord
Halsbury in the case of Sharpe v Wakefield, in which he said in cases
where a licence had already been granted, unless some change during the
year was proved, they started with the fact that such topics as the
requirements of the neighbourhood had already been considered, and one
would not expect that those topics would be likely to be re-opened.
Continuing, Mr. Bodkin said that was exactly the position they were in
that morning. There had been no change with respect to these houses
except that Folkestone had increased in population, and there had been
an absence of any legal proceedings against any of the persons keeping
these houses. He ventured to say it would be inopportune at the present
time to take away licenses where they found the change had been in
favour of renewing them.
Mr. Minter said he appeared for the tenants of the houses, and he
endorsed everything that had fallen from his two learned friends, who
had been addressing them on behalf of the owners. Mr. Glyn referred to
the population having increased twofold since the licenses were granted,
and he (Mr. Minter) would point out that while the population had
increased no new licenses had been granted for the past twelve years.
Mr. Minter then referred to the fact that there was not a single record
on the licenses of any one of the tenants. Was there any argument he
could use stronger than that? As to the objection that the houses were
not required for the public accommodation, he was prepared to show, by
distinct evidence, that each tenant had been doing a thriving business
for the last four or five years, and that it did not decrease. How was
it possible, in the face of that, to say they were not required for the
public accommodation?
Mr. Bradley then claimed the right to address the Bench on behalf of the
Temperance Societies, but an objection was raised by his legal opponents
that he had no locus standi, as he had given no notice of his intention
to appear, and this contention was upheld by the Bench.
The Bench then retired for a consultation with their Clerk on the points
raised in the opening, and on their return to the Court the Chairman
said the Magistrates had decided where there were allegations of
disorderly conduct the cases must be limited to during the year, and no
cases prior to the licensing meeting last year would be gone into. They
thought it was right that the Superintendent should state the cases that
they might be gone into, and that the Bench might know what the
objections were.
The Harbour Inn.
Sergeant Swift said there were twelve licensed houses within 100 paces
of this house. On the 31st December, 1892, he visited the house after
closing time, and found four seamen there.
Mr. Glyn: Were any proceedings taken?
Mr. Taylor: A summons was applied for but not granted.
Sergeant Swift said the house was resorted to by sailor lads and young
girls, and dancing went on in a back room. There was an entrance to the
house in Harbour Street, and a back entrance in South Street.
By Mr. Glyn: There had not been any summons taken out with respect to
the house since the licence was renewed. He did not know there had been
a conviction with regard to one of the houses in the street not objected
to.
Sergeant Harman said he found the conduct at the back part of the house
disorderly. Young men and girls stood outside and caused a disturbance
to the neighbourhood. This generally occurred when there were colliers
on the harbour.
Mr. Glyn said it had been pointed out to him that there was a passage in
Mr. Taylor's report to the effect that his representations as to the
houses conducted in an unsatisfactory manner did not apply to the
Jubilee, Victoria, Ship, or Harbour. The house having been conducted in
a satisfactory manner, the evidence did not apply.
Mr. Taylor said he would withdraw it. Continuing, he said there were
seven houses in South Street, five holding licenses, and, as touching
the question of requirement, he mentioned during the past few years the
house had changed hands several times.
Mr. Minter: It shows they made their fortunes rapidly.
Mr. Taylor: It shows they could not get a living.
In answer to Mr. Glyn, Mr. Taylor said he objected to two licenses in
South Street – that of the Harbour and the Victoria.
Mr. G. Sandeford, manager to Messrs. Beer and Co., said the house was
rated at £48 a year. The tenant was a respectable man, who was doing an
increasing business.
A Doctrine Of Confiscation.
This concluded the list of objections, and Mr. Glyn addressed the Bench,
saying the result of the proceedings was that with regard to all the
houses, except the Tramway, there was no serious charge of any kind. As
to the Tramway, he challenged anybody to show that any Bench of Justices
had ever refused to grant licenses unless the landlords had had notices,
or unless there had been a summons and a conviction against the tenant
since the last renewal. With regard to the other houses the only
question was whether they were wanted or not. Superintendent Taylor,
who, he must say, had conducted the cases most fairly and most ably, had
picked out certain houses, and he asked the Bench to deprive the owners
of their property and the tenants of their interest in respect of those
houses, while the other houses were to remain. How on earth were the
Bench to draw the line? There were seven houses in one street, and the
Superintendent objected to four, leaving the other three. In respect to
one of these there had been a conviction, and in respect of the others
none. Why was the owner of one particular house to keep his property,
and the others to be deprived of theirs? Mr. Glyn enforced some of his
previous arguments, and said if the Bench deprived his clients of their
property on the grounds that had been put forward they would be adopting
a doctrine of confiscation, and setting an example to other Benches in
the county to do the same.
The Decision.
The Bench adjourned for an hour, and on their return to the Court the
Chairman announced that the Magistrates had come to the decision that
all the licenses would be granted with the exception of that of the
Tramway Tavern.
Mr. Glyn thanked the Bench for the careful attention they had given to
the cases, and asked whether, in the event of the owners of the Tramway
Tavern wishing to appeal, the Magistrates' Clerk would accept service.
Mr. Bradley: Yes.
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Folkestone Express 16 September 1893.
Adjourned Licensing Session.
The special sitting for the hearing of those applications for renewals
to which the Superintendent of Police had give notice of opposition was
held on Wednesday. The Magistrates present were Messrs. J. Clark, J.
Hoad, W.H. Poole, W.G. Herbert, J. Fitness, J.R. Davy, J. Holden, C.J.
Pursey and J. Pledge.
Mr. Lewis Glyn and Mr. Bodkin supported the applications on behalf of
the owners, instructed by Messrs. Mowll and Mowll, with whom were Mr.
Minter, Mr. F. Hall, and Mr. Mercer (Canterbury), and Mr. Montagu
Bradley (Dover) opposed on behalf of the Good Templars.
Before the business commenced, Mr. Bradley handed to Mr. Holden a
document, which he carefully perused, and then handed to Mr. J. Clark,
the Chairman.
Mr. Glyn, who appeared for the applicants, speaking in a very low tone,
made an application to the Bench, the effect of which was understood to
be that the Justices should retire to consider the document. The
Justices did retire, and on their return Mr. Holden was not among them.
Mr. Glyn then rose to address the Bench. He said he would first make
formal application for the renewal of the licence of the Queen's Head.
It was known to all the gentlemen on the Bench as an excellent house,
and the licence had been held for a considerable number of years. The
present tenant had held it since 1887; it's value was £1,500, and the
present tenant had paid no less than £305 for valuation for going into
the house. The licence was granted a great many years ago, and had been
renewed from time to time. The Superintendent of Police now opposed on
the ground that it was no longer required and was kept in a disorderly
manner. First, with regard to the objections of the Superintendent, he
thought he would admit when he came into the box that it was not he who
was making the objections to all those licenses, but that they were made
in consequence of instructions received from some members of the
Licensing Committee. Of course in his view, and in their view, a very
serious question might arise, whether the Licensing Committee had any
locus standi. His general observations in that case would apply to all
the cases. The Superintendent, in raising those objections, was acting
under instructions from the Licensing Magistrates, so that they were
really in this position, that they were sitting to adjudicate in a case
they themselves directed. He felt certain the Bench would not refuse to
renew one of those licenses, but he thought it right to put the facts
before them, in order that when they retired they might consider what
their position was. He also pointed out that there was not a single
ratepayer objecting to any of the renewals. The first ground of
objection was that the houses were not required. Before going further he
referred to the very important action of the Watch Committee, who were
the parties one would expect to put the law in action. But they declined
to have anything to do with it, and declined to sanction any legal
advice to the Superintendent for the purpose of depriving his clients of
what undoubtedly was their property. He ventured to think that in all
his large experience in these matters that there never was a case where
a licence was taken away simply because it was not required, or simply
because some of the learned Magistrates thought it ought to be done and
instructed the Superintendent to raise objections. There were two or
three of the houses existing before 1869, and therefore his clients were
entitled to a renewal of their licenses, there having been no
convictions against them during the year. With regard to the other
licenses, they were granted a great many years ago, at a time when th
population of this borough was about half what it is now, and the
Magistrates then thought they were required. They had been renewed from
time to time by that body, and were they willing to say now that they
were not required, and deprive the owners and tenants of their property
and of their licenses? There was not a single Bench in the county,
which, up to the present time, had deprived any one tenant of his
licence and his property, simply because a suggestion had been made that
it was not required. There had been one case in the county two years
ago, but the party appealed to the Court of Quarter Sessions, and that
Court said the licence ought to be granted. It would be very unfair to
his clients, several of whom had spent large sums of money on their
property, to refuse a renewal of their licenses, especially having
regard to the fact that they were granted a great many years ago, and
against which there had not been a single conviction during the year. In
order to save time, he put two questions before the Magistrates:- first,
were they prepared to deprive the owners and tenants of their property,
and secondly, the licenses having all been renewed since any conviction
had taken place, were they prepared to deprive the owners of their
property without their having an opportunity and investigating the
charges brought against them. It would save a great deal of time if the
Bench would consider those two points.
Mr Bodkin followed with a few supplementary remarks. He referred to the
case of “Sharpe v Wakefield”, in which the decision had been given that
a licence, whether by way of renewal or whether it was an annual matter
to be considered year by year, and not renewed as of right. He quoted
from the remarks of Lord Halsbury, who seemed to consider that in
dealing with renewals they ought not to deal with them exactly in the
same way as in new applications. He dwelt upon the fact that last year
all the licenses were renewed, and that though no new licenses had been
granted for many years, the borough had increased in population, and
there had been an entire absence of legal proceedings against any of the
houses in the past year.
Mr. Minter, who appeared, he said, for the tenants, emphasised what had
fallen from the other two legal gentlemen, and said it would be
unnecessary for him to make any lengthy remarks. Mr. Glyn had referred
to the population having increased twofold since those licenses were
granted. There was another very important matter for consideration, and
it was this. That although the population had increased twofold since
the whole of those licenses were granted, during the last twelve years
no new licenses had been granted. Mr. Glyn had also referred to the
hardship on the owners if they lost their property, having regard to the
fact that there had been no conviction against the tenants during the
year, but in addition to that he desired to call attention to what was
the intention of the legislature. The legislature had provided that in
all cases where owners of licensed houses were brought before the Bench
and charged with any offence against the licensing laws, the Magistrates
had the power, if they deemed the offence was of sufficient importance,
to record that conviction on the licence. They could do that on a second
conviction, and on the third occasion the legislature said that the
licence should be gone altogether. He was happy to say there was no
record on any one of the licenses of the applicants, notwithstanding
that they might have been proceeded against and convicted before the
last annual licensing meeting. That showed they were of such trivial
account that the Magistrates considered, in the exercise of their
judgement, that it was not necessary to record it on the licence. Was
there any stronger argument to be used than that the Magistrates
themselves, although they felt bound to convict in certain cases, did
not record the conviction on the licence? He cordially agreed with the
suggestion of Mr. Glyn that the Magistrates should retire and consider
the suggestion he had made, and he thought they would come to the
conclusion that all the licenses should be renewed. There were cases
where the houses could claim renewals as a right, and in which he should
be able to show the licenses existed before 1869. That course would save
a great deal of time.
Mr. Montagu Bradley claimed to be heard on behalf of the Good Templars.
The Court held that Mr. Bradley had no locus standi, as he had not given
notice to the applicants that he was going to oppose.
Mr. Bradley thereupon withdrew.
The Magistrates again retired, and on their return the Chairman said the
Magistrates had decided that where it was a question of disorderly
conduct, it was to be limited to during the year just ended, and not to
go into questions prior to the annual licensing day of last year. They
thought it right that the cases should be gone into, in order that they
might know what the objections were.
Mr. Glyn enumerated the houses, and they were then gone into separately
in the following order:
The Harbour Inn.
The only objection to this house was that it was not necessary.
Sergeant Swift said there were 12 other houses within 100 paces. On the
31st December, 1892, he visited the house after hours and found three
seamen there. It was reported, but the landlord was not summoned. The
house was used by sailor lads and young girls. There were two entrances,
one in Harbour Street, and one in South Street. The people who went
there made a noise.
By Mr. Glyn: There has been no charge against the house since it was
last renewed. There are several other licensed houses in the street not
objected to. I did not know that there was a conviction in respect of
one of them.
Mr. Glyn: Will you tell the Magistrates how they are to pick out what
licenses they are to refuse, and which to renew? – I can't do that.
Sergeant Harman said the persons who resorted to the house were
disorderly. Young girls and men stood outside the back part and caused
disturbances. It generally happened when there were colliers in the
harbour.
Mr. Glyn pointed out a paragraph in the Superintendent's report, which
said the disorderly conduct did not apply to the Harbour. (Laughter)
Superintendent Taylor: That is a newspaper report.
Mr. Glyn: I beg you pardon. It is your own writing. (Laughter)
Superintendent Taylor dropped the point. He then desired to show the
number of tenants.
Mr. Minter objected. It only showed that the tenant made his fortune
rapidly and retired.
Superintendent Taylor: Or lost it.
Mr. Bradley said there were four tenants.
Superintendent Taylor said there were seven houses in South Street, and
five held licenses.
By Mr. Glyn: I am objecting to two – the Harbour and Victoria. I do not
know what the rent of the Harbour Inn is. It is rated at £48 a year.
James Gilbert Sandiford, manager to Messrs. Beer and Co., said the
Harbour Inn belonged to them. It was purchased in 1888. He did not know
the estimated value. The tenant was a respectable man, and doing an
increasing business. He entered in August, 1892.
Mr. Minter said the annual value would be £50.
Mr. Glyn then addressed the Bench on the whole of the cases, and urged
that no Bench had ever refused a licence where there had been no
complaint or conviction. He said the Superintendent had conducted the
cases ably and fairly, but he had picked out several houses and asked
the Bench to refuse licenses to them. How, he asked, could they do so?
It would be very nice for the owners of other houses, no doubt. He
emphasised his remarks that no Bench in the county had refused a licence
on the ground that it was not wanted. Nothing had occurred in the
neighbourhood to alter the position of things, yet Folkestone was asked,
as it were, to set an example to other boroughs in the county, and to
confiscate his clients' licenses, when there was no ground whatever for
that confiscation. It was not a small matter. It was not a question of
£15. The lowest value was put at £800. The ground of objection was
merely that the licenses were not wanted, although they had been in
existence many years, and the owners had spent large sums of money on
the houses on the faith of the licenses which the justices' predecessors
had granted, and which they themselves had renewed. The population had
largely increased, and the Magistrates had refused to grant fresh
licenses because they thought there were sufficient. He ventured to
submit that they would not do what other Benches had refused to do, and
deprive his clients of their property. They looked to the Magistrates to
protect their property and their interests. If there had been any strong
views in operation against the licenses among the public, it would be
different. But they had not expressed any such views. There was the
Watch Committee, the proper authority to raise those points, who had
declined to support the objection, which came from a member of their
body, who was not present, and who had not taken part in the
proceedings. He asked them, without any fear of the result, to say that
under all the circumstances they were not going to deprive his clients
of their licenses.
There was some applause when Mr. Glyn finished his speech.
The Justices then adjourned for an hour to consider all the cases.
On their return Mr. J. Clark, the Chairman, said: The Magistrates have
had this question under consideration, and they have come to the
decision that all the licenses be granted, with the exception of the
Tramway Tavern. (Applause)
Mr. Glyn said he need hardly say they were much obliged to the Chairman
and his brother Magistrates for the care they had given the matter. With
regard to the Tramway Tavern, he asked if they would allow him, in the
event of the owners deciding to appeal, which it was probable they would
do, to serve the notice on their Clerk.
Mr. Bradley said there was no objection to that.
Mr. Glyn said his friends felt they ought to acknowledge the very fair
manner in which Superintendent Taylor had conducted those proceedings.
The business then terminated.
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Folkestone Herald 16 September 1893.
Editorial.
The large audience who crowded into the Licensing Justices' Court at the
Town Hall on Wednesday last were evidently representative of the
interests of the liquor trade in this Borough. Every stage of the
proceeding was watched with the closest attention, and it was impossible
not to recognise the prevalent feeling that a mistake had been committed
in objecting wholesale to the renewal of licenses. Thirteen houses in
all were objected to, but as two of them, through a technical point of
law, were entitled to a renewal, there remained eleven as to which the
Justices were asked to exercise their discretionary powers. In the
event, after a long hearing, and a weighty exposition of law and equity,
the decision of the tribunal resulted in the granting of ten of these
eleven licenses and the provisional extinction of one, as to which, no
doubt, there will be an appeal. As this journal is not an organ of the
trade, and as, on the other hand, it is not inspired by the
prohibitionists, we are in a position to review the proceedings from an
unprejudiced and dispassionate standpoint. At the outset, therefore, we
must express our disapproval of the manner in which the cases of those
thirteen houses have been brought up for judicial consideration. It was
rather unfortunate that a Magistrate who is so pronounced a Temperance
advocate as Mr. Holden should have taken a prominent part in having
those houses objected to. We say nothing of his official rights; we only
deprecate the manner in which he has exercised his discretion. We think
it likely to do more harm than good to the Temperance cause, inasmuch as
it savours of partiality if not persecution. We also think that Mr.
Holden would have done well not to have taken his seat on the Licensing
Bench. It would be impossible to persuade any licence holder that the
trade could find an unbiased judge in the person of a teetotal
Magistrate. Conversely, it would be impossible to persuade a Temperance
advocate that a brewer or a wine merchant could be capable of passing an
unbiased judgement upon any question involving the interests of those
engaged in the liquor traffic. The presence of Mr. Holden on the Bench
was not allowed to pass without protest. Counsel for the owners handed
in a written document, the Justices retired to consider it in private,
and as the result of that consultation Mr. Holden did not resume the
seat he had originally taken. The legal and other arguments urged by the
learned Counsel for the owners and the tenants are fully set out in our
report. We attach special importance to one contention, which was urged
with a degree of earnestness that made a deep impression in Court, and
will make a deeper impression outside. All these houses, be it
remembered, had had a renewal of licence at the annual licensing meeting
held last year. At that date the discretionary power of the Court had
been as firmly established in law as it is at the present moment. At
that date whatever laxity had taken place during the previous year in
respect of the conduct of any one of those thirteen houses had been
condoned by the renewal of the licence. At that date the congestion of
public houses in particular parts of the town was as notorious as it is
now, and nothing had happened in the interval to change in any material
degree the general circumstances which prevailed in 1892 when the
licences were renewed. In no single case out of the thirteen has there
been a conviction recorded on the licence since the licenses were
renewed in 1892, and under these circumstances it was argued by Counsel
that to extinguish any one of these licences would amount to an act of
confiscation. There can be no pretence for saying, therefore, that the
objections raised this year to the renewal of the licences originated in
the laches of the tenants themselves. They had their origin with either
the Bench as a whole or a section of the Bench, and it was at the
instance of the whole body or of a section of the Justices that the
chief officer of police was instructed to report upon the question. So
far as the ordinary course of police supervision was concerned the
houses, with one solitary exception, appeared to have had a clear
record, there being no conviction for any infraction of the Licensing
Acts. It therefore savoured of persecution to arraign the whole of these
thirteen houses and to press against them the argument that they are not
required by the population, although last year the Justices, by renewal
of the licenses, had decided that they were. Under these circumstances
it was rather unfair to throw upon the Superintendent of Police the
onerous and invidious duty of making the best case he could in support
of the objections. It is only right to say that the fair and
straightforward manner in which that officer discharged the duty
elicited the commendation of everybody in Court – Bench, advocates, and
general audience. Ultimately the Justices renewed all the licenses, with
the exception of that of the Tramway Tavern, and on this case their
decision will be reviewed by an appellate court. The impression which
all these cases have created, and will leave on the public mind, is that
the Temperance party have precipitated a raid upon the liquor shops, and
that in doing so they have defeated their own object. Persecution and
confiscation are words abhorrent to Englishmen. The law fences the
publican round with restrictions and penalties in abundance, but in teh
present case the houses had not come overtly within the law. To shut up
the houses would therefore savour of confiscation, although in strict
law the licence is deemed to be terminable from year to year. In the
result the victory lies with the trade, and the ill-advised proceedings
against a whole batch of houses have created a degree of sympathy for
the owners and tenants which was given expression by the suppressed
cheers that were heard on Wednesday at the close of the investigations.
Licensing.
It will be remembered that on the 23rd ult. the Justices adjourned until
the 13th inst. the hearing of objections to the renewal of the following
licensed houses – Granville, British Colours, Folkestone Cutter,
Tramway, Royal George, Oddfellows (Radnor Street), Cinque Ports, Queen's
Head, Wonder, Ship, Harbour, Jubilee, Victoria – thirteen in all. These
cases were taken on Wednesday last at the Town Hall, the large room
having been transformed for the purpose into a courtroom. The Justices
were Messrs. Clarke, Hoad, Pledge, Holden, Fitness, Poole, Herbert,
Davy, Pursey, with the Justices' Clerk (Mr. Bradley, solicitor).
Mr. Glyn, and with him Mr. Bodkin, instructed by Messrs. Mowll and
Mowll, of Dover, appeared on gehalf of the owners of the property
affected; Mr. Minter, solicitor, appeared for the tenants; Mr. Montague
Bradley, solicitor, Dover, appeared on behalf of the Folkestone Good
Templars, Sons of Temperance, Rechabites, and the St. John's Branch of
the Church Temperance Society. Mr. Superintendent Taylor, Chief
Constable of the borough, conducted the case for the police authorities
without any legal assistance.
Mr. Glyn, at the outset, said: I appear with my learned friend, Mr.
Bodkin, in support of all these licences except in the case of the Royal
George, for the owner of which my friend Mr. Minter appears. Before you
commence the proceedings I should like you to consider an objection
which I have here in writing, and which I do not desire to read. I would
ask if you would retire to consider it before proceeding with the
business.
Mr. Montague Bradley: I appear on behalf of some Temperance societies in
Folkestone.
Mr. Glyn: I submit, sir, that this gentleman has no locus standi.
The Justices now retired to a private room, and after about ten minutes
in consultation all the Justices except Mr. Holden returned into Court.
It was understood that the objection had reference to the appearance of
Mr. Holden as an adjudicating Magistrate, that gentleman being a strong
Temperance advocate.
Mr. Glyn then proceeded to say: Now, sir, it might be convenient if you
take the Queen's Head first, and I have formally to apply for the
renewal of the licence of the Queen's Head. That is a house which is
well known by everybody, and by all you gentlemen whom I have the honour
of addressing, as a most excellent house. The licence has been held for
a very considerable number of years, and the present tenant has had it
since 1889. It is worth £1,500, and the present tenant paid no less than
£305 valuation when he entered that house. I need hardly tell you that
the licence was granted a great many years ago by your predecessors and
it has been renewed from time to time until now, when the Superintendent
of Police has objected on the grounds that the house is not required and
that it is kept in a disorderly manner. As to the objection made by the
Superintendent, for whom I in common with all others have the highest
possible respect, I think he will admit that the objection in not made
of his own motion but that it is made in pursuance of instructions
received from some members of the Licensing Committee. Of course the
point has occurred to my learned friend and myself, and it is a very
nice one, whether under those circumstances the requirements of the
Section had been complied with, and as to whether, the Superintendent
having really been acting as agent for the Justices, he had any locus
standi at all to oppose these licences. I must leave that to your body,
guided as you will be by your most able Clerk. He knows the Section
better than I do. He knows under what circumstances and objection can be
raised, and that it must be done in open Court and not introduced in the
way these objections have been raised. These observations apply to the
whole of these renewals, and you will find in this case, sir, indeed in
all these cases, that the Superintendent of Police in raising these
objections has been raising them, as he says in his report, in pursuance
of instructions he received from the Magistrates; therefore those
gentlemen who formed that body and who give the Superintendent these
instructions are really in this position, if I may so put it to them
with humility, of people complaining, by having themselves directed an
inquiry, upon which inquiry they propose to sit, and, as I understand,
to adjudicate. Now, sir, I know from some long occasional experiences of
this Bench that there is not a single member of this Bench who desires
to adjudicate upon any case which he had prejudged by directing that the
case should be brought before him for a particular purpose, and I only
draw your attention to these matters because I am perfectly certain that
on the grounds I am going to place before you this Bench will not refuse
to renew any of these licences. I think it right, after very careful
attention, to put those facts before you in order that when you retire
you will consider exactly what your position is. There is another thing
I ought to say which applies to all these applications. There is not a
single person, not a single ratepayer, in all this borough – and I don't
know exactly what the numbers are, but they are very considerable – but
there is not a single ratepayer who has been found to object to the
renewal of any of these licences. Anyone would have a right to do it if
he chose, and I feel certain that the Justices will think that where
none of the outside public care to object, this Bench will not deprive
the owners and tenants of their property simply because they themselves
think that the matter ought to be brought before them, as I understand
has happened in this case, for adjudication. Now, let us see the first
ground of objection in respect of all these licences. The first ground
in respect of each of these licences is that the licence is not needed,
and I desire to make a few observations on that. I repeat that no
ratepayer can be found here who is prepared to come before the Bench and
raise this point. No notice has been given by anybody except by my
friend the Superintendent, who has told us in his report that he has
been acting upon the instructions of the Bench. But, sir, there is
another and very important matter. I understand that in the Watch
Committee, which one generally thought would be expected to get the ball
rolling, if it is to be rolled at all – if, as my friend suggests, there
is any public opinion upon it that these licences are not required – the
Watch Committee has actually been approached in this case, that is to
say, by some gentlemen connected with the Corporation. I don't know
whether it is any of the gentlemen I have the honour of addressing, but
they have declined to have anything to do with it or to sanction any
such device for the purpose of depriving my clients of what is
undoubtedly their property. Therefore I venture to think, speaking with
some little experience, that there never was a case in which licences
were taken away simply because some of the learned Magistrates thought
that the matter ought to be brought before them, and instructed the
Superintendent to do so. Now, sir, I am dealing with the Queen's Head,
but among the licences are some beerhouses that existed before the
passing of the Act of 1869, and the owner is therefore entitled to
renewal, for although notice of objection has been given on the ground
of disorderly conduct there has been a renewal, and that renewal has
condoned any misconduct there might have been. Therefore these houses
are absolutely entitled to renewal. Now, sir, with regard to these
licences that were granted a great many years ago. Of course at that
time, when the population of the borough was about half of what it is
now, the Magistrates then thought they were required. Those licences
have been renewed from time to time by your body, and are you really to
say now that although these, or some of these, licences were granted
when the number of inhabitants was 12,000, whereas it is now 25,000 –
these licences were not required or are not necessary for more than
double the original population? I venture to say that such an argument
reduces the thing to absurdity. Of course I know, with regard to these
houses, that in this case the Magistrates are clothed with authority, if
they choose to deprive the owners and tenants of their property, if they
think the licences are not required. But you will allow me to point this
out to the Bench, that there is not a single Bench in this County – I am
glad to be able to say – who yet have deprived an owner or tenant of his
property simply because a suggestion has been thrown out. That is at any
rate the case as far as Kent is concerned. It was done at one Bench in
this County, but when it came on appeal at the Quarter Sessions they
upset the decision of the Magistrates who had refused the renewal of the
licence on that ground. This is the only instance I know, and I am sure
that I am right, where a Bench in this County had been found to deprive
an owner of his property which you are asked to do in this way, and a
tenant of his livelihood. I venture to express my views, and I am sure
that all the Bench will coincide with me, that it would be very unfair
in such cases, when owners – whether brewers or private individuals –
have paid large sums of money in respect of licensed houses, when those
licences have been renewed from year to year, when the tenants have paid
large sums in respect of valuation, and some of them have been tenants
for many years and have gained a respectable livelihood in this business
– it would be very unfair to deprive the owners and tenants of their
property without giving them compensation of any kind for being turned
adrift. That brings me again to a consideration I must bring before you,
that these licences were granted at a time when the population of the
borough was about half what it is now; but now you are asked to say that
the licences are not required when the population has become twice as
much as it was when the licences were originally granted. Perhaps my
friend Mr. Minter will coincide with me that if you should consider this
point in the first place and form an opinion on it, it would save a
great deal of time. It is now a question as to whether you are, under
those circumstances, prepared to refuse the renewal of any of these
licences, having regard to the fact that there has not been a single
conviction since the last renewal. Having regard to the fact that these
licences were granted so long ago and have been renewed from time to
time, having regard to the fact that there has been no conviction in the
case of any one of them during the present year, and that if any offence
had been committed prior to the last renewal it was condoned by that
renewal – are you going to deprive the owners and tenants of their
property? Now, I only desire to say another word. Some of these
objections are made on the ground that the licences are not required;
others refer to the fact that here have been previous convictions or
that the houses have not been kept in an orderly way. Of course we shall
hear what the Superintendent says, and we know that he would be
perfectly fair to all sides, but I want to make a general observation
about it, and it is this; whether or not these houses have been
disorderly. As to that I think you would say that inasmuch as in any
case where there has been a previous conviction and you had renewed the
licence, that renewal condoned any previous offence. It clearly is so,
and if there had been any offence committed since the renewal we should
have to consider what was the class of offence which had been committed.
But that does not apply in this case. In no single instance has there
been a conviction in respect to any of the houses which Mr. Minter and
myself ask for the renewal of the licence, and I am going to put to you
what I understand to be an elementary proposition of law, that you would
not deprive an owner of his property because it is suggested that a
house has not been properly conducted where that owner has never had an
opportunity of appearing before the Bench or instructing some counsel or
solicitor to appear before the Bench in answer to any charge under the
Act of Parliament which had been brought against his tenant. If there
had been any charge in respect of any of these houses since your last
renewal, the tenant would have been brought here, he would be entitled
to be heard by counsel, and the question would be thrashed out before
the Bench. That has not been done in any single case since you last
renewed the licences of these houses, and I am perfectly certain that no
Bench in this County, and no gentleman in Folkestone, would deprive an
owner of his property simply because it has been suggested that since
the last renewal a house has not been properly conducted, although no
charge has been made against the tenant, so that he might have a right
to put the the authorities to the proof of the charge. I am not aware of
such a case, and I challenge anybody to show that there has been any
single case before any Bench where a licence has been taken away after
renewal following a conviction when there has been no criminal charge
against that house, but only a general charge after the renewal. I
submit that you are not going to deprive the owners of their property
when there has been no charge of any kind investigated in this or any
other court against the holders of those licences, and if you would
retire and consider this point and give an answer upon it, it would save
us a deal of time.
Mr. Bodkin followed on the same side dealing with the legal questions
involved in the application.
Mr. Minter then addressed the Court as follows: I appear for the tenants
of these houses. The learned Counsel have been addressing you on behalf
of the owners, and though I cordially agree with everything that has
been said by them, it will be necessary for me to make a few
observations. Mr. Glyn referred to the population having increased
twofold since these licences were granted, but there is another very
important consideration, and that is this – that although the population
has increased twofold since the whole of these licences were granted,
within the last twelve years, I think I am right in saying that no new
licence has been granted. Not only were the licences now under
consideration granted when the population was half what it is now, but
there has been no increase in the number of licences since that period I
have named. The second point is with respect to the hardship which would
fall upon owners if a licence were refused on the ground of convictions
against the tenant. The learned Counsel has urged that it would be
unjust to take into consideration a conviction that took place prior to
the last annual licensing meeting, and you will feel the force of that
argument. What is the intention of the Legislature? The Legislature has
provided that in all cases where the tenants of licensed houses are
convicted of a breach of the Licensing Laws the Magistrates have power
to record that conviction on the licence, and on a third such conviction
the Legislature says that the licence shall be forfeited altogether.
Appearing on behalf of the tenants, I am happy to say that there is no
such record on the licence of any one of the applicants, and
notwithstanding that a conviction may have taken place prior to the last
annual licensing meeting, the conviction was of such a trivial character
that the Magistrates did not consider it necessary to record it on the
licence. Is there any argument to be used that is stronger than that
observation? You yourselves have decided that although you were bound to
convict in a certain case, it was not of a character that required the
endorsement of the licence, and after that conviction you renewed the
licence, and again on a subsequent occasion. One other observation
occurs to me, with regard to suggestions that have been put before you
by Mr. Glyn and Mr. Bodkin, and I entirely concur in what has been said
upon it. It is very pleasing to be before you, but I think it will be
pleasing to us and you will be as pleased yourselves if time can be
saved, and if you will only retire and take into consideration the
points which Mr. Glyn has suggested to you, I think you will come to the
conclusion that the applications should be granted, but I am excepting
the one or two cases in which I appear and in which I can claim as a
right to have the licence renewed as they existed before 1869, and
therefore these special cases do not arise on the notice served upon my
clients. I am sure you will not take offence if I put it in that way,
but if we have to go through each one of these cases, and I appear for
nine or ten, the tenants are all here and will have to go into the box
and be examined, and their evidence will have to be considered in
support of the application I have to make. Now let me call attention for
a moment to the notice of objection. You may dismiss from your mind the
previous conviction; the suggestion is that the houses are not required
for public accommodation. I am prepared in each case with evidence to
show that the public accommodation does require it, and the test is the
business that a house does. I am prepared to show by indisputable
evidence that the tenants has been doing a thriving business for the
last four or five years, that it has not decreased, and how is it
possible with that evidence before you to say that the licence is not
wanted? You may regret, possibly, that the number of houses is larger
than you like to see, but you would not refuse to entertain the
application made today unless you were satisfied that the houses were
not wanted for the public accommodation. I hope you will take the
suggestion of Mr. Glyn and that you will renew all the licences that are
applied for, particularly as there is not a single complaint against
them.
Mr. Montague Bradley: I claim the right to address the Bench.
Mr. Minter: I object.
Mr. Bodkin: My friend must prove his notice of objection.
Mr. M. Bradley: I should like Mr. Glyn to state the Section under which
he objects to my locus standi.
Mr. Glyn: I should like to know for whom my friend appears – by whom he
is instructed.
Mr. M. Bradley: I appear on behalf of Temperance Societies of Folkestone
– Good Templars and others.
Mr. Glyn: Now, sir, I submit beyond all doubt that the practice is
clear.
Mr. M. Bradley: I think, sir, that the question ought to be argued. I
should like to hear Mr. Glyn state his objection.
Mr. Minter: We have objected on the ground that you have not given
notice of objection.
Mr. Glyn: My friend should show his right – how he proposes to establish
his right.
Mr. M. Bradley referred to Section 42, subsection 2.
Eventually the Chairman said: Mr. Montague Bradley, the Bench are of
opinion that you have no locus standi.
Mr. M. Bradley: Very well, sir.
The Justices now retired to their room.
The Chairman on their return said: The Magistrates have decided that
where there is a case of disorderly conduct it is to be limited to
within the year, and that the Superintendent is not to go into any case
previous to the annual licensing day of last year. We think it right
that Superintendent should state these cases and that they should be
gone into in order that we may know what these objections are.
The cases not eliminated by this decision were then proceeded with,
seriatim, and are noticed below in the order in which they were called.
The case of the Harbour Inn was next investigated, and Sergt. Swift
deposed that there were twelve other licensed houses within 100 paces
thereof. On 31st December, 1892, he visited the house after closing
hours and found four seamen there, drinking, but no summons was issued.
It was resorted to at night by girls and sailor lads, whose conduct was
very noisy. There were two entrances to the house, one in South Street
and one in Harbour Street.
Questioned by Mr. Glyn, he said he did not know that as to one of the
houses in this street not objected to there had been a conviction.
Sergeant Harman said he thought the conduct of the customers who
resorted to the back part of the house in South Street was generally
very disorderly, More especially when colliers were in the harbour.
At this stage, when Mr. Bodkin was cross-examining Sergeant Harman, Mr.
Glyn interposed, saying: I have found something, and I think the
Superintendent will drop this point. Reporting to the Justices, he says
“some of these houses have been conducted in an unsatisfactory manner,
but this does not apply to the Jubilee, the Victoria, the Ship, or the
Harbour.” That, I think, is conclusive. (Laughter) That is in the
Superintendent's report, and I am sure he will, with his usual fairness,
give the case up after that.
Superintendent Taylor: I will give Mr. Glyn the benefit of the report in
the newspapers.
Mr. Glyn: But it is the Superintendent's report to the Justices. It is
quite clear.
Superintendent Taylor, having looked at the report, said he would not
trouble the Bench further on this point, and withdrew the notice of
objection so far as it related to the disorderly conduct. But he went on
to urge that seeing that there had been four tenants since 1889, it
showed that the house was not required, because if the tenants were
making a good living they would not want to turn out of it.
This led Mr. Minter to humorously observe that probably they made their
fortune quickly and retired.
Mr. Glyn then called to give evidence Mr. J. Gilbert Sandiford, manager
to Messrs. Beer and Co., owners of this house, who purchased it in 1883.
It was rented at £32, and rated at £48 per annum. The tenant was a most
respectable man, and he did a steady increasing business. He had lived
there since July, 1892.
On the conclusion of the cases Mr. Glyn rose and said: The result of
these inquiries is, sir, that in respect to all the houses except the
Tramway Tavern there is no serious charge of any misconduct of any kind.
It is only in the case of the Tramway Tavern that a serious attack has
been made, and I have already addressed you as to the Tramway Tavern. If
the brewers had notice they might have had an opportunity of testing the
case, whether the house has been properly conducted or not, and I
challenge anybody to allege that any Bench of Justices in this County
other than the Bench I have alluded to have ever refused to grant the
renewal of a licence unless the landlord had had notice, or unless there
has been a summons or conviction against the tenant. I take that point,
sir. It is a technical point, but I have not the slightest doubt that it
is conclusive against the points raised. Now, with regard to the other
houses, except the beerhouses which have a positive right of renewal.
The only other question is whether the remaining houses are wanted or
not. The Superintendent of Police has conducted his case most fairly and
most ably indeed, and he picks out certain houses and asks the
Magistrates to deprive the owners of their property and the tenants of
their livelihood, and he asks that other houses may remain. How on earth
are you to draw the line? There are seven houses in one street, and how
can you deprive four of them of their licence, and grant the renewal of
licence to the other three? I must again put before you that no Bench of
Magistrates in this County have refused to renew a licence – with the
exception of the case which I put before you, and in that case they were
overruled – to any old licensed house on the ground on which you are
asked to refuse, viz., because it is suggested that the house is not
wanted. The County Magistrates, as well as the Magistrates in Boroughs,
have felt this, inasmuch as their predecessors in office have granted
licences upon the faith of which repairs have been done and expenditure
has been incurred, it would be unfair to take that property away unless
– as the late Lord Chancellor pointed out – something fresh had happened
to alter the neighbourhood since the time of the last renewal. It is not
suggested here that anything has occurred with respect to any one of
these houses in order to satisfy you that they should be taken away as
not being required, and I venture to submit that this Bench at any rate
would not adopt a policy of confiscation, for I cannot call it anything
else, and, as it were, set an example to other Benches in the County by
confiscating my clients' property in any of these cases, having regard
to the fact that they are old licences, having regard to the fact that
the population has increased twofold, and having regard to the fact that
nothing fresh, in the words of the Lord Chancellor, has arisen to induce
you to deprive the owners of the licences that were renewed last year. I
submit that you, gentlemen, will not be a party to the confiscation of
property. It is no small matter that you have to consider. It is not a
question of £10 or £15, for the lowest in value of the houses before you
today is £800, and the licences have been granted by your predecessors
and renewed by you. Your population has largely increased since those
licences were granted, and as my friend (Mr. Minter) has pointed out,
you have refused to grant any new licences, and under these
circumstances I venture to submit that you will not deprive my clients
of their property. My clients look to you to protect their property;
they have no other tribunal. If there had been any strong view in the
Borough against these licences the public would have expressed their
views by giving notice of opposition, but they have not done it, whereas
the Watch Committee, the proper body to raise these objections, have
declined to touch it. Where does the objection come from? It comes from
a member of your body, who has not taken part in these proceedings, but
who has suggested that the Superintendent of Police should give notice
in respect of these houses and have these cases brought before you. I
thank you very much for the kind way in which you have listened to my
observations and those of my friends, and without fear of the result I
am confident that you are not going to deprive my clients of their
licences, to which, I submit, the law entitles them. (Suppressed
applause in the body of the court)
It being now 2.50, the Justices adjourned for an hour, returning into
court just before 4 o'clock.
The Chairman then said: The Magistrates have had this question under
consideration, and they have come to the decision that all the licences
be granted, with the exception of the Tramway Tavern. (Suppressed
applause)
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Licensing.
That the lot of the publican, like that of the policeman in the “Pirates
of Penzance”, is not over and above a happy one, must be conceded. There
is no business to which so many pains and penalties are attached, and to
embark in which a man must be prepared to go through so keen an enquiry
into his antecedents as well as his character at the time when he
applies for his licence; and in which he has at last, by the expenditure
of much time and money, obtained permission to sell, during certain
periods out of the twenty four hours fixed for him by a tender-hearted
legislature desirous that he should not overwork himself, he is so
heavily handicapped by the restrictions which surround him. In fact, the
proverbial toad under the harrow would seem to lead almost a pleasant
existence in comparison with unfortunate Mr. Boniface. His natural
enemy, the teetotaller, is ever on the alert to worry him, and, if
possible, to shut up his shop for him, totally careless at to the ruin
which may accrue to him and his family.
In pursuance of some of these tactics some of the members of the
Folkestone Licensing Committee a twelvemonth ago discovered all at once,
after a lapse of some fifteen years, that there are too many houses in
the town. How some few weeks back a prominent member of that Committee,
and a steadfast advocate of the Temperance movement, reverted to that
decision, and announced that if the brewers did not agree among
themselves as to what houses should be closed, the Committee would
forthwith proceed to act upon their own judgement, is all a matter of
history. Between the time when this announcement was made and the
licensing day proper, the Superintendent of Police, who does not seem to
have held any pronounced opinions as to the number of houses, drew up,
at the request of the Committee, an elaborate report upon that point,
showing that there were in the town 130 houses; and in consequence of it
he was directed to give notice to the owners and occupiers of thirteen
houses that they would be objected to at the adjourned session.
On Wednesday, the 13th, the Special Adjourned Session was held. The
Magistrates had wisely provided for the very great interest taken in the
question by holding the enquiry in the Town Hall, a great improvement on
the stuffy little apartment dignified by the name of a police court. As
soon as the doors were opened the body of the hall rapidly filled, the
trade, of course, being present in strong force, neighbouring towns also
being represented. The teetotallers also mustered pretty strongly, but
it may here be stated that Mr. Montagu Bradley, of Dover, who appeared
for them, was objected to, and the Bench ruled that he had no locus
standi; or in other words the Magistrates could decide the questions
that would be submitted to them without the interference of any outside
body. So Mr. Bradley politely took his leave shortly after the
commencement of the proceedings. A somewhat singular feature in
connection with them was the large force of police in attendance in the
Hall; probably the authorities anticipated some exhibition of feeling,
but none such took place, except early in the morning a working man
shouted out “How can you expect justice from that lot? They gave me
eighteen months for nothing”. He was speedily ejected, and the business
for the remainder of the day was conducted in the most orderly manner.
The Magistrates on the Bench were Messrs. Hoad, Pledge, Pursey, Herbert,
Davey, Clarke, Fitness, and Poole. Mr. Holden also took his seat, but in
deference to a written protest handed in by counsel for the owners he
retired. Mr. Glyn and Mr. Bodkin appeared for the owners, instructed by
Mr. Mowll, of Dover, Mr. F. Hall, Folkestone, and Mr. Mercer,
Canterbury; Mr. Minter, the solicitor for the Folkestone Licensed
Victuallers' Association, for the tenants.
Mr. Glyn first opened the proceedings in a temperate and exhaustive
speech, delivered quite in the best Nisi Prius style, argumentative and
without an attempt at claptrap or sensational appeal. It was a capital
forensic effort, and afforded unmitigated pleasure to the Licensed
Victuallers themselves, whilst we fancy, from the somewhat lengthened
faces of the opponents of the licenses, they must have felt at it's
conclusion that the ground had been cut from under them. There was just
the faintest attempt at applause when the learned counsel sat down, but
this, the only manifestation of feeling throughout the day, was speedily
suppressed in the call for silence.
The Superintendent of Police supported his own objections – or rather
the objections of the Committee – in person. Armed with a voluminous
brief he made the best of a weak case, but evidently it was not a labour
of love to him.
Mr. Bodkin's work was chiefly confined to the examination of witnesses,
and those who attentively followed him could not have failed being
struck with the fact that not an unnecessary question was put to a
single witness.
Mr. Glyn based his arguments upon three general grounds, which he
applied to all the cases collectively. The first was that this
opposition did not emanate from the police. The Superintendent had no
grounds for complaint, but was acting under the direction of certain
members of the Bench. How far that was approved of generally was
evidenced by the fact that the Watch Committee refused to grant him
legal assistance in opposing these licenses. The objection urged against
them was that they were not required. Now, up to the present time not a
Bench in the county of Kent had been found to deprive an owner of his
property or a tenant of his livelihood because someone chose to say a
house was not necessary. But what were the facts in the present case?
Why, that all these licenses were granted a dozen years ago, and if they
were thought requisite when the population was only half what it was at
present, surely they could not say they were not required now. Secondly,
some of these houses had been objected to as not having been properly
conducted. To meet that assertion the learned counsel adduced the fact
that during the last twelvemonth not a single conviction had been
recorded against any one of the tenants. Any previous conviction had
been condoned by the renewal of the licence. That was common sense. The
Bench admitted that it was so by subsequently deciding not to enquire
into any laches that might have taken place previous to the last
licensing meeting in 1892.
Mr. Bodkin followed briefly in the same vein, and Mr. Minter, on behalf
of the occupiers, addressed himself to the requirements of the town,
arguing, as we have ourselves pointed out in the List, that the very
fact of their being supported by the public was a prima facie argument
in favour of the existence of these houses.
The Magistrates, at the conclusion of the learned gentlemen's arguments,
retired, and after an absence of about a quarter of an hour, on their
return announced they would hear any complaints there were against any
house since the last licensing meeting. This involved the calling of a
large number of witnesses – owners, tenants, civil and military police,
the examination of whom lasted well into the afternoon.
Harbour Inn: Same objection taken – twelve houses within the same
distance. Sergeant Harman said the persons who resorted to it were
disorderly, but no complaint was made against it when the licence was
renewed.
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Folkestone Express 13 April 1895.
Saturday, April 6th: Before The Mayor, Alderman Pledge, J. Fitness and
T.J. Vaughan Esqs.
The licence of the Harbour Inn was transferred from Mr. Barker to Mrs.
Woolmer.
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Folkestone Chronicle 7 June 1895.
Local News.
At the Borough Police Court on Wednesday the licence of the Harbour Inn
was transferred to Mrs. Wontner.
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Folkestone Express 8 June 1895.
Wednesday, June 5th: Before C.J. Pursey and W. Wightwick Esqs.
The licence of the Harbour Inn was transferred to Mrs. Watner.
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Folkestone Herald 22 July 1895.
Police Court Record.
James Gray and William Grist were charged with being found drunk on
licensed premises on the 18th July.
Mrs. Wontner, the landlady of the Harbour Inn, said that on Thursday
afternoon they came in drunk. They upset a table and smashed a flower
pot. They refused to leave, and witness sent to the police station.
Fined 5s. and 9s. costs each, or seven days' hard labour.
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Folkestone Chronicle 2 August 1895.
Local News.
The friends of Mr. Joseph Arch, junr., formerly of the Harbour Inn,
Folkestone, will be interested to learn he received a warm compliment
from the Recorder at Old Bailey on Saturday last, for arresting two
dangerous criminals, convicted of a burglary in the cloakroom of the
Charing Cross Station.
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Folkestone Chronicle 28 February 1896.
Saturday, February 22nd: Before Messrs. J. Holden, J. Fitness, J.
Pledge, S. Penfold, and T.J. Vaughan.
Mr. David Thomson was granted temporary permission to sell at the
Harbour Inn.
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Folkestone Express 29 February 1896.
Saturday, February 22nd: Before J. Holden, J. Fitness, J. Pledge, S.
Penfold and T.J. Vaughan Esqs.
David Thomson was granted temporary authority to sell at the Harbour
Inn.
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Folkestone Visitors' List 13 January 1897.
Kaleidoscope.
A policeman's lot is not a happy one, it is said. Neither is the life of
an hotel proprietor under certain circumstances. On Saturday at the
Police Court, Mr. Minter observed that in the neighbourhood of the
harbour the greatest difficulty was sometimes experienced in keeping
those licensed houses respectable.
Not long ago the present landlord of the Harbour Hotel took possession
of that place, and he was determined that it should be conducted in a
proper manner, and that he would not sere anyone who appeared to be in
an intoxicated condition. He meant, said Mr. Minter, to get rid of a
certain class of persons who were nothing more or less than “loafers”,
and whose language was anything but “desirable” on any occasion.
Then there was a system of persecution, for it so happens that the
Harbour Hotel has an entrance from Harbour Street, and also an entrance
from South Street. The “passage” leaves the bar on the one hand, and
those “loafers”, whom it was found were not desirable customers, and who
would not be served, made a practice of making a “short-cut” from
Harbour Street. In order to stop this, the South Street door was closed
up, and no doubt had the desired effect.
But on the 12th of December several young men of the seafaring type
endeavoured to “force the passage”, and the defendant, who was the
“leader” of this noble band, was turned out by the landlord, who would
not allow him into South Street, or serve him with drink, because he
appeared to have had enough already. When the landlord was doing this
kindly action he was struck in the face, and the defendant, like a good
many others, “took to his heels” immediately after he had, in fact, left the town, probably on board one of the coaling
vessels, but returned with the commencement of the new year, and was
ultimately summoned. The Mayor, who was in the chair, told him, after
hearing the evidence, that it was no use for young fellows to think that
they could do just as they liked in a public house. The defendant's
conduct was most reprehensible, and would have to be stopped. Defendant
would be fined 10s., with eleven shillings costs, or in default fourteen
days' imprisonment.
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Folkestone Chronicle 16 January 1897.
Saturday, January 9th: Before The Mayor, General Gwyn, and W.G. Herbert
Esq.
Martin Roach was charged with assaulting William Holton, manager of the
Harbour Inn. Mr. J. Minter prosecuted.
The prosecutor stated that the joint proprietor of the house with him
was Mr. Thompson. The house was near the harbour, and he was greatly
annoyed by some former customers coming in either drunk or feigning to
be. There were two entrances, one in Harbour Street, and one in South
Street, and they merely walked through from one to the other without
having anything to drink, making use of the passage as a thoroughfare.
He had several times refused to supply the defendant with liquor, as he
was drunk and used bad language. On the 12th December he went in between
10 and 11 p.m., apparently drunk. He was ordered out by witness, and
witness was immediately assaulted. He was struck in the face, and some
of his whiskers were torn out. A policeman was sent for, and defendant
was given into custody.
Edward Bell and James Tiddy corroborated.
Fined 10s. and 11s. costs, or 14 days'.
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Folkestone Express 16 January 1897.
Saturday, January 9th: Before The Mayor, General Gwyn, and W.G. Herbert
Esq.
Martin Roach was charged with assaulting William Holton, the managing
proprietor of the Harbour Inn.
Mr. Minter appeared for the prosecution, and explained the difficulty
there was in houses near the harbour to keep them in an orderly way, but
the present landlord had conducted his house in an exemplary manner,
being determined to put an end to the rowdyism which was going on there.
There were two entrances to the house, and some of the former habitués
of the house had persistently annoyed the complainant by going in drunk
or imitating drunkenness, and walking through without having anything to
drink – in fact using the house as a thoroughfare. On the occasion when
the assault was committed by the defendant, the landlord refused to
serve him, and requested him to leave, which he refused to do, and
struck him. He was then ejected, and a policeman sent for.
William Holton, manager of the Harbour Inn, said the proprietor was Mr.
Thompson, with whom he was in partnership. He explained the situation of
the house, and said he had on several occasions refused to supply the
defendant with liquor, on account of his being in a state of
intoxication and using bad language. On the 12th December he went in,
and was apparently drunk. Witness ordered him out, and was immediately
assaulted by him and another person who had not been brought before the
Bench. Defendant struck him a blow in the face and pulled some of his
whiskers out. He sent Mr. Thompson for a policeman, who took him into
custody. In the struggle defendant knocked an automatic machine off the
counter and broke it all to pieces. The time was between 10 and 10.30 at
night.
Edward Bell, a smith, said he was in the house when the disturbance
occurred. Defendant was either drunk or acting drunk. Witness's chair
was knocked from under him in the scuffle, and he saw defendant ejected.
By the defendant: I heard the landlord tell you not to make a
thoroughfare of his house. You entered from Harbour Street and went
through to South Street.
James Tiddy gave similar evidence. He saw defendant strike the manager
and pull his whiskers and make his face bleed.
The Bench severely admonished the defendant and fined him 10s. and 11s.
costs, or 14 days'.
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Folkestone Herald 16 January 1897.
Police Court Record.
On Saturday – the Mayor presiding – Martin Roach was summoned for
assaulting William Holton on the 12th December.
Mr. Minter, who appeared for the complainant, said that the latter is
the landlord of one of the small hotels at the harbour. The house had
been the resort of a good many of the loafers about the harbour, who
went in drunk and created a disturbance, and the present landlord had
refused to serve these loafers when in a state of intoxication. There
were two entrances into the house, one in Harbour Street and the other
in South Street, and the men sought to inflict annoyance on the landlord
by going in at one door and out at the other, without buying anything.
The defendant was one of the principal offenders in this way. It was on
one of these occasions that the assault was committed.
William Holton said he was the manager of the Harbour Hotel. When he
first came there he found that a number of persons came in drunk and
created disturbances. There were two entrances, both leading to the
bar-room. Previous to December 12th, he had refused to supply the
defendant with liquor in consequence of his being in a state of
intoxication, and the language he used. On 12th December he came in
drunk, from the Harbour entrance, and witness immediately went forward
and ordered him out the way he came in. Witness was then assaulted by
defendant and another person, the latter having been since summoned. The
defendant struck witness in the face and pulled his whiskers out,
causing his face to bleed. Witness sent for the police, and, with
assistance, ejected the defendant. The defendant then ran off, but the
policeman overtook him. In the struggle the defendant knocked an
automatic machine off the counter, breaking it. This happened at about
half past ten at night.
Two other witnesses gave evidence, one corroborating the previous
evidence as to the assault.
The defendant said he could only say he never struck the complainant.
Fined 10s. and 11s. costs, or 14 days' hard labour.
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Folkestone Chronicle 26 March 1898.
Wednesday, March 23rd: Before Messrs. J. Holden, J. Pledge, and T.J.
Vaughan.
William Holton, the licence holder of the Harbour Inn, appeared to
answer a summons for assaulting Mrs. Marion Morford on the 17th March.
Mr. G.W. Haines prosecuted, and Mr. Stainer defended on behalf of the
Licensed Victuallers' Association.
From the evidence of Mrs. Morford, who was in a delicate state of
health, and Mrs. Lizzie Clout, it appeared that the former sent her
little girl to the inn to see if her uncle was there. The girl came back
crying, saying Holton had hit her. He came out, and complainant asked
him why he struck her. In reply, he hit her in the eye. (Witness's eye
was very much swollen and discoloured).
Mr. Stainer asserted that the two witnesses were in the habit of using
the house, and that he had refused to serve them, which they denied.
Henry Waddell said Holton did not strike the complainant, but she
assaulted him.
The Bench considered the charge proved, and inflicted a fine of £1 and
12s. costs, or 14 days'.
Note: No record of Holton listed in More Bastions.
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Folkestone Herald 26 March 1898.
Police Court Report.
On Wednesday William Holton, landlord of the Harbour Inn, was fined £1
and 12s. costs for assaulting Marian Morford.
Mr. Haines prosecuted, and Mr. Stainer defended on behalf of the
Licensed Victuallers' Association.
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Folkestone Chronicle 2 July 1898.
Wednesday, June 29th: Before The Mayor and Mr. J Fitness.
John Tyler was charged with assaulting John Mackay on the 18th inst.
Prosecutor, an elderly man, apparently in ill-health, and with his right
arm in splints, said he was a waiter out of employment. On the 18th he
was seated in the bar of the Harbour Inn, when the prisoner entered,
drunk, and the landlord refused to serve him. He then commenced to
abuse witness, and afterwards struck him. There was a scuffle and
witness fell, breaking his right arm.
Defendant said Mackay struck him, and in the scuffle that ensued his arm
was broken. He did not do it.
The Chairman said if they thought defendant wilfully broke Mackay's arm
they should have inflicted the full penalty. As it was, he would be
fined 20s. and 9s. costs, or 21 days' hard labour.
Defendant asked for time to pay, but it was refused, and he was removed
to the cells.
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Folkestone Herald 2 July 1898.
Police Court Report.
On Wednesday – the Mayor presiding – John River was charged with
assaulting John McKie.
Complainant deposed that on the 18th at about a quarter past nine he was
sitting at the Harbour Inn. Defendant knocked him and, on being pushed
away, came for him again. He was not sober, and they would not serve
him.
Defendant said he went to the Harbour Inn and the complainant insulted
him.
Fined £1, 9s. costs, or 21 days' hard labour.
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Folkestone Up To Date 2 July 1898.
Wednesday, June 29th: Before The Mayor and J. Fitness Esq.
John Rivers, a labourer, was summoned for assaulting John Mackay, a
butcher and ex public house waiter.
The complainant said: I used to be a waiter. On Saturday, the 18th
inst., I was in the Harbour Inn. The defendant came in, and was rather
noisy. I only asked him to be quiet, when he knocked me on the chest
with a sieve. I then put out my hand to push him away; he went for me,
and a struggle took place, during which my arm was broken. He had been
refused drink shortly before because he was so drunk.
The defendant said he went into the Harbour Inn on Saturday night with
another man to have a glass of beer, when the complainant insulted him.
The Mayor said that if the Bench had thought that the broken arm had
been given intentionally and not in the struggle a much heavier sentence
would have been inflicted. As it was the defendant was fined £1 and 9s.
costs, in default 21 days' hard labour.
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Folkestone Express 29 April 1899.
Wednesday, April 26th: Before The Mayor, J. Fitness, W. Wightwick, and
C.J. Pursey Esqs., and Col. Hamilton.
John Duncan Thompson applied for a transfer of the licence of the
Harbour Inn. Granted.
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Folkestone Herald 29 April 1899.
Folkestone Police Court.
On Wednesday last a transfer of the Harbour Inn to Mr. J. Thompson was
granted.
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Folkestone Up To Date 29 April 1899.
Wednesday, April 26th: Before The Mayor, J. Fitness, W. Wightwick, and
C.J. Pursey Esqs., and Lt. Col. Hamilton.
The following transfer was granted: Harbour Hotel, David Thompson to
John Duncan.
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Folkestone Chronicle 19 August 1899.
Local News.
The Harbour Inn: Mr. Justice Selfe has granted an order for the
partnership of Holden and Thompson, proprietors of the Harbour Inn, to
be dissolved, and the business to be disposed of by the 30th September.
Holden put £130 into the business along with Thompson's brother, who
found £20. The brother died a few months back, willing his property to
Holden. The present Thompson took out letters of administration, and he
and Holden had since carried on the business jointly, but they had
decided to discontinue working together. Mr. W.H. Barton is said to be
appointed the receiver.
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Folkestone Express 19 August 1899.
County Court.
Tuesday, August 15th: Before Sir William Selfe.
In the case of Holton v Thompson, the plaintiff asked for the
appointment of a receiver and for the dissolution of the partnership.
Mr. G.W. Haines appeared for the plaintiff, and Mr. Ward for the
defendant.
Mr. Haines explained that the plaintiff and the defendant's brother took
over the Harbour Inn, plaintiff putting in £130, and the other man £20.
The brewers advanced the balance. In May of this year Thompson died,
leaving his property by will to Holton, but the will was not attested.
Thompson's brother took out letters of administration, and the business
had been since carried on jointly, but differences arose which rendered
it advisable for the partnership to be dissolved and an account to be
taken.
His Honour granted the application, and directed the business to be
disposed of before the 30th September. It was understood that Mr. H.H.
Barton would be the receiver.
This case was heard in His Honour's private room.
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Folkestone Express 7 April 1900.
Saturday, March 31st: Before The Mayor, J. Fitness, S. Penfold, J.
Stainer, J. Hoad, J. Pledge, and G. Spurgen Esqs., and Col. Westropp.
Miss Sarah Lovegrove was granted a transfer of licence for the Harbour
Inn.
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Folkestone Herald 7 April 1900.
Folkestone Police Court.
On Saturday last a temporary transfer was granted to Miss Sarah
Lovegrove for the Harbour Inn.
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Folkestone Express 14 April 1900.
Auction Advertisement.
By Order of the Trustees of the late Mr. James Golder, Folkestone.
Banks and Son.
Will sell by auction at the Queen's Hotel, Folkestone, on Wednesday 25th
April, 1900, at three o'clock in the afternoon, the following valuable
fully-licensed, COPYHOLD PUBLIC HOUSE, known as the Harbour Inn.
Lot 1: All that well and substantially brick built, with slate roof,
Copyhold, Fully-Licensed Public House, known as the Harbour Inn, situate
in Harbour Street and South Street.
Containing on Ground Floor: Two smoking rooms, large bar, two entrances,
W.C. and urinal.
First Floor: Club Room with embayed window, 2 bedrooms, landing, and
W.C.
Second Floor: Six bedrooms.
Basement: Kitchen, Scullery, Beer, Ale, and Coal cellars.
Held under a repairing lease for a term of 14 years from the 11th
October, 1890, at the annual rent of £65, payable quarterly.
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Folkestone Express 28 April 1900.
Local News.
On Wednesday Messrs. Banks and Son offered by auction at the Queen's
Hotel several lots of property. The Harbour Inn was purchased for
£1,300.
Wednesday, April 25th: Before J. Pledge, G. Spurgen, T.J. Vaughan and J.
Stainer Esqs., and Kieut. Col. Westropp.
Mrs. Lovegrove was granted a transfer of licence for the Harbour Inn.
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Folkestone Herald 28 April 1900.
Folkestone Police Court.
On Wednesday a transfer was granted to Mrs. Sarah Lovegrove for the
Harbour Inn.
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Folkestone Chronicle 23 June 1900.
Saturday, June 16th: Before Mr. J. Pledge and Mr. Vaughan.
Charles Newman, a private of the 4th Suffolk Regt., appeared to answer a
charge of breaking a pane of glass at the Harbour Inn on the previous
day. Mrs. Lovegrove, the landlady, said the prisoner came into the bar and
asked for some liquor. She would not let him be served, and he took off
his coat and wished to fight someone. She called her brother, who
accompanied the prisoner to the door, when Newman deliberately put his
hand through a pane of glass, value 5s. He was quite sober. An officer of the prisoner's regiment informed the Bench that Newman's
character was good. The Bench inflicted a fine of 6d., damage 5s., and 4s. 6d. costs. |
Folkestone Express 23 June 1900.
Saturday, June 16th: Before J. Pledge and T.J. Vaughan Esqs.
Charles Newman, a private of the 4th Batt. Suffolk Reg., was charged
with doing wilful damage to a pane of glass in the Harbour Inn to the
amount of 5s.
Mrs. Lovegrove stated she was landlady of the Harbour Inn, and on the
15th inst. the prisoner went in and asked for some liquor. As he was not
served he took off his coat and wanted to fight. Witness called her
brother, and when they were near the door of the bar the defendant
deliberately put his hand through the pane of glass. The amount of
damage was 5s. He was quite sober. An officer who was present said the
defendant's character was quite good.
The Bench fined him 6d., the amount of the damage 5s., and 4s. 6d.
costs.
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Folkestone Herald 23 June 1900.
Folkestone Police Court.
Charles Newman, a private in the 4th Suffolk Regiment, was convicted on
Saturday of having wilfully broken a pane of glass at the Harbour Inn on
the 15th. The landlady, Mrs. Lovegrove, having refused to serve him with
drink, he smashed a pane of glass.
To pay 10s., including 5s. damage.
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Folkestone Chronicle 19 January 1901.
Monday, January 14th: Before Messrs. Wightwick, Pursey, Herbert,
Fitness, Swoffer, and Lieut. Col. Hamilton.
William Spearpoint is a notable character in the Fish Market, and, like
all the market celebrities, has been re-Christened. Mr. Spearpoint's
pseudonym is Seaweed, and he managed to get locked up on Saturday night.
Consequently those fisherfolk who were not at sea attended the “levee”
on Monday morning. As he had been up five times previously, his friends
anticipated a term of seclusion without the option.
P.C. Johnstone deposed to being called to the Harbour Inn to eject the
prisoner, who was drunk and disorderly on Saturday evening about eight
o'clock. Prisoner raised a rumpus and refused to go away, so was locked
up.
Fined £1 and 4s. 6d. costs.
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Folkestone Herald 19 January 1901.
Monday, January 14th: Before Messrs. W. Wightwick, W.G. Herbert, C.J.
Pursey, J. Fitness, and G.I. Swoffer, and Lieut. Colonel Hamilton.
Wm. Spearpoint was charged with having been drunk and disorderly in
Harbour Street on the 12th January.
P.C. Johnson said at the request of Mrs. Spearpoint he ejected prisoner
from the bar of the Harbour public house on Saturday night. When in the
street prisoner became disorderly and refused to go away.
Five previous convictions were proved against prisoner, who was
fined £1 and 4s. 6d. costs.
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Folkestone Express 2 February 1901.
Monday, January 28th: Before J. Hoad, E.T. Ward, J. Pledge, T.J.
Vaughan, J. Stainer, W.C. Carpenter, and George Peden Esqs., and Lieut.
Colonel Hamilton. Mr. Thomas C. Hall, part owner of the Harbour Inn, applied for a
temporary transfer of the licence. Mr. F. Hall represented the
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Folkestone Herald 2 February 1901.
Monday, January 28th: Before Messrs. J. Hoad, E.T. Ward, Pledge,
Vaughan, Peden, Carpenter, and Stainer, and Lt. Col. Westropp.
Thomas Cornelius Hall, formerly a steward on one of the S.E. Packets,
was granted temporary authority to carry on business at the Harbour Inn
until the next licensing day.
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Folkestone Chronicle 9 March 1901.
Wednesday, March 9th: Before Messrs. Wightwick, Pledge, Pursey, Stainer,
and Salter.
The licence of the Harbour Inn was transferred to Mr. Cornelius Hall.
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Folkestone Express 9 March 1901.
Licences.
Wednesday, March 6th: Before W. Wightwick, W. Salter, G.I. Swoffer, C.J.
Pursey, and J. Pledge Esqs.
Mr. Hall, landlord of the Harbour Inn, who was granted temporary
authority in January, was granted the licence. Mr. F. Hall represented
him, and submitted plans for alterations to the amount of £1,100, and
they were approved.
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Folkestone Chronicle 22 August 1903.
Thursday, August 20th: Before Aldermen Banks and Salter, Mr. W.
Wightwick, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, and Lieut. Col. Hamilton.
Arthur Jones and James Allen were charged with being concerned in
uttering a gilded sixpence, representing it to be a half sovereign.
Mary Fisher, a barmaid at the Harbour Inn, said: I recognise Jones, who
came to the bar about 8.30 p.m. yesterday, and asked for a mild and
bitter. I served him, and he offered me a sovereign in payment. I went
to the place where the money is kept and took half a sovereign and 10s.
worth of silver. I then, from the till, changed 1s. for a mild and
bitter, and, having taken 1½d., I placed the 19s. 10½d. before Jones
upon the counter. He picked up the silver, put his hand over the half
sovereign, as if to pick it up, then drew his hand back, and suddenly
put it out again, asking me to give him the half sovereign in silver. I
took a coin up, thinking I had the same half sovereign I had put down,
and went to the cupboard and changed it. After the prisoner had gone,
Mr. Hall spoke to me, and then went to the cupboard and brought to me
the coin for which I had given Jones 10s. in exchange.
Thomas Hall, landlord of the Harbour Inn, proved watching the
transaction just spoken to, and said that as Jones left the house he
(witness) went to the cupboard and found a genuine half sovereign he had
put there earlier, and also the coin produced (a gilded sixpence). He
went in search of prisoner, and found him with another man at the bottom
of High Street, counting money. Witness said to Jones “I want you. You
have been passing bad coin with my barmaid”. Jones replied “Where do you
mean? What house do you mean?” Witness said “You know whose house it is;
you have just left it”. I told a cabman who stood by to call a
policeman, when Jones said “Don't call a policeman”, and the other
prisoner said “How much do you want?” Just then a policeman came up and
witness gave prisoner in charge. The other man was brought to the house
later on, and witness identified him as the one who was with Jones.
James Butland, a cab driver, deposed to seeing the prisoners acting
suspiciously, and then walk away from the Harbour Inn in company, going
down South Street. Following them, witness, at the bottom of High
Street, saw them stop and share out some money. Jones handed it to the
other man. Mr. Hall came along, and witness gave him information.
The Chief Constable asked for a remand, as there would be one additional
case to prefer next week.
Jones, who had previously said that he took the half sovereign at the
Folkestone Racecourse, now said that he was Guilty, and that he had had
some drink when he passed the coin. He would like the Magistrates to
deal with the case at once.
The Chief Constable: No doubt he has very good reasons for that wish.
The Chairman said the prisoners would be remanded for seven days.
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Folkestone Express 22 August 1903.
Thursday, August 20th: Before Aldermen Banks and Salter, Lieut. Colonel
Hamilton, W. Wightwick, and G.I. Swoffer Esqs.
Arthur Jones and James Allen were charged with being concerned together
in uttering a gilded sixpence for half a sovereign.
Mary Fisher, barmaid at the Harbour Inn, identified the prisoner Jones
as a person who came to the bar about 8.30 p.m. the previous evening and
asked for a mild and bitter. Witness served him and prisoner offered a
sovereign in payment. She then went to a cupboard for change and placed
19s. 10½d. on the counter. Prisoner placed his hand over the half
sovereign as though he intended to pick it up, but drew it back, and
then put it suddenly forward, at the same time asking witness to give
him the half sovereign in silver. Witness took it up, thinking it was
the same half sovereign that she had put down. She took 10s. worth of
silver and placed what was supposed to be a half sovereign in the
cupboard. Prisoner finished his glass and then went out. In consequence
of something said by the landlord witness went to the cupboard, and then
discovered that the supposed half sovereign was a counterfeit.
Thomas Hall, landlord of the Harbour Inn, said that about 8 o'clock the
previous morning he placed two half sovereigns and 10s. worth of silver
in a cupboard. At 8.30 he was in the saloon bar when the prisoner Jones
came in, and he saw the barmaid go to the cupboard for change and
afterwards hand it over the counter; she then went back and took further
change from the cupboard. Prisoner then left the house. In consequence
of something said by the barmaid witness went to the cupboard and there
found one of the coins which he had placed there in the morning, but
discovered that the other was not a half sovereign. On going outside
witness met a cabman, and in consequence of his statement proceeded
along South Street and found the two prisoners at the bottom of High
Street counting money. Witness caught hold of Jones and said “I want you
for passing a bad coin to my barmaid”. He replied “What house do you
mean?” Witness said “You know which house it is; you have just left it”.
Allen said “Don't call a policeman. How much do you want?” Just then a
policeman came up. Witness informed prisoner that he required nothing.
He then gave Jones into custody. Allen was brought to the bar later on
and witness identified him as the person he had seen with Jones.
John Butland, a cabman, said that he was on the stand close to the
Harbour the previous evening when he saw prisoners at the corner of
Barton's Wall. They walked across the road and had a conversation, at
the same time watching the Harbour Hotel. Jones looked through the
window, spoke to Allen and then went into the bar and called for a
drink. The other prisoner then went in the bar and they both came out
together. Witness followed them. When outside Maestrani's shop in South
Street they shared some money. Mr. Hall then came up and witness went
for a policeman who took Jones into custody.
The Superintendent applied for a remand in order that further enquiries
might be made.
Mr. Bradley advised the prisoners not to make any statement, but the
prisoner Jones said that he had the half sovereign passed on to him at
the Folkestone Races. Allen said the coin was not a counterfeit.
Prisoners asked to have the case settled at once, but the Magistrates
decided to remand them for a week.
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Folkestone Herald 22 August 1903.
Thursday, August 20th: Before Aldermen Banks and Salter, Lieut. Colonel
Hamilton, Messrs. W. Wightwick, and G.I. Swoffer. Arthur Jones and James Allen were charged with being concerned together
in uttering a gilded sixpence for a half sovereign. Mary Fisher, a barmaid at the Harbour Inn, recognised Jones as the man
who, about half past eight the previous day, came into the bar and asked
for a “mild and bitter”. Prisoner offered a sovereign in payment, and
witness gave him the change, 19s. 10½d., a half sovereign and the rest
in silver. She saw prisoner put his hand over the piece of gold as if to
pick it up, but drew it back and then put it suddenly forward, at the
same time asking her to give him the half sovereign in silver. Witness
thought it was the same half sovereign she had put down, and complied
with his request. Prisoner then left. Thomas Hall, landlord of the Harbour Hotel, said that he saw the two
prisoners at the bottom of High Street counting some money between them.
He caught hold of Jones and said “You have been passing a bad coin
through my barmaid”. Prisoner said “What house do you mean?” A policeman
coming up at the time, he gave prisoners in charge. John Butland, a cabman, stated that he was on the stand near the harbour
about eight o'clock the previous evening, when he saw the two prisoners
standing near the wall. They afterwards went across the road. He saw
Jones go into the Harbour Hotel, followed shortly afterwards by Allen.
He saw them come out, and go together to South Street, and also saw them
sharing the money. He went for the police. Prisoners, who pleaded Guilty, were remanded for a week. |
Folkestone Chronicle 29 August 1903.
Thursday, August 27th: Before Aldermen Banks and Salter, Lieut. Col.
Hamilton, and Mr. G.I. Swoffer.
Arthur Jones and James Allen were charged on remand with passing a
Jubilee gilded sixpence as a half sovereign. Additional evidence was
called, and a second charge was gone into. In this case, as in the
first, it was alleged that the accused “rang the changes” with a gilded
sixpence upon Thomas Philip Jordan at the Red Cow public house.
On the application of Chief Constable Reeve, both prisoners were
committed to take their trial at the next Quarter Sessions of the
Borough, bail being offered in prisoners' own sureties of £100 and two
sureties of £50 in each case.
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Folkestone Express 29 August 1903.
Local News.
At the Folkestone Borough Police Court on Thursday, Arthur Jones and
James Allen were brought up on remand charged with being concerned
together in uttering gilded sixpences as half sovereigns, and further
evidence having been given, the prisoners were committed for trial.
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Folkestone Herald 29 August 1903.
Thursday, August 27th: Before Aldermen Banks and Salter, Lieut. Colonel
Hamilton, and Mr. G.I. Swoffer.
Arthur Jones and James Allen were charged, on remand, with uttering a
counterfeit coin, viz., a gilded sixpence.
The evidence given at the previous hearing was repeated.
Both prisoners were committed to take their trial at the next Quarter
Sessions for the borough, bail being fixed at £50 each.
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Folkestone Chronicle 17 October 1903.
Quarter Sessions.
Monday, October 12th: Before John Charles Lewis Coward.
Arthur Jones, 29, labourer, and James Allen, 49, hawker, both described
as of imperfect education., were charged with unlawfully and knowingly
uttering one piece of false and counterfeit coin at Folkestone, on the
19th of August, 1903. Both prisoners pleaded Guilty.
The indictment, as well as that referring to the Harbour Inn, or “Mary
Fisher” charge, included that of Thomas Philips Jordan, of the Red Cow,
upon whom the same false pretence was practiced.
Counsel for the Crown, Mr. T. Matthew, in opening, repeated the facts as
detailed in our issue of October 5th, and mentioned that the prisoners,
London men, came down to the Folkestone Racecourse on the 19th of
August, and then into the town, where, according to the evidence, they
had been “ringing the changes”.
The Recorder: Wait a minute. I think “ringing the changes” is another
thing.
Concluding the outline of the offence, Counsel said he would like to
draw the learned Recorder's attention to the provisions under 34 – 35,
Victoria, Chap 112, Sec. 8 (Prevention of Crimes Act), which gave the
judge power to add to his sentence a term of police supervision, the
maximum term being seven years.
Detective Sergeant Samuel Lee, of the H Division, Metropolitan Police,
then proceeded to give an account of the prisoners' criminal career,
which showed four convictions within the last four years. Allen's course
of crime was then established by the witness and Chief Constable Reeve.
A written statement was then handed in by the prisoner Jones, who
attributed his fall to the influence of bad company and to his giving
way to drink. He promised to leave the country as soon as he had served
his sentence.
Allen created a smile on the Bench when he said that this was his first
visit to Folkestone, and he hoped it would be his last.
The Recorder then passed sentence. He said: You two men have the worst
records I have had before me during the period I have sat at this Court.
You do not seem to have many friends among the police, and there is no
doubt from the evidence that you are the worst scum of the racecourse. I
must pass a sentence that will keep both of you from visiting this
borough for some time to come, and I feel it my duty to accede to the
request of Counsel for the Crown that you should be placed under police
supervision. If Jones is making a true statement about going to America
that will not affect him. You will both be sentenced to 12 months' hard
labour, to be followed by three years' police supervision.
Both prisoners (who seemed much relieved): Thank you, my Lord.
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Folkestone Express 17 October 1903.
Quarter Sessions.
Monday, October 12th: Before John Charles Lewis Coward Esq.
Arthur Jones (29), described as a labourer, and James Allen (49), a
hawker, were indicted for unlawfully and knowingly uttering counterfeit
coin on the 10th August at Folkestone. Prisoners pleaded Guilty.
Mr. Matthews, who prosecuted, said the prisoners were carrying out a
trick called “ringing the changes”.
The Recorder: I don't think it is a trick. They uttered counterfeit
coins.
Mr. Matthews: Then I am misinformed.
Counsel then intimated that he was desired to call attention to the
provisions of the 34th and 35th Vict., chapter 112, which enabled the
Recorder to say that there should be a period of police supervision in
addition to any sentence passed. If there was an order that there should
be a supervision for a certain period, the police would be able to keep
an eye upon such men as prisoners, and prevent anything occurring again.
Detective Sergt. Lee, H Division (Metropolitan Police) proved that on
Dec. 16th, 1901, at the Central Criminal Court, Jones, in the name of
Edward Connell, was sentenced to twenty months hard labour for stealing
£3 13s. 6d. from a till.
The Recorder: A rather stiff sentence, was it not?
Sergt. Lee: Hardly, after his “previouses”.
The Recorder: Oh, I see!
Continuing, Sergt. Lee said that Jones's criminal career commenced on
the 18th of Oct., 1899, at the Southwark Police Court, where he was
fined 40s. or one month's hard labour for stealing money from a public
house. On the 23rd March, 1900, he was charged at the Guildhall Police
Court with “ringing the changes”, and on that occasion, because his
previous convictions were not proved, he was bound over. At the time he
was in company with two old convicts. At Epsom Petty Sessions, on April
26th, 1900, he was charged with stealing a pair of opera glasses off the
racecourse, and received five weeks' hard labour, while on July 11th,
1900, at the South London sessions, he was sentenced to 15 months' hard
labour for attempted larceny. On this occasion prisoner was working in
concert with others, using a sticky substance at the end of a stick and
pocketing money from shelves in public houses.
P.C. Gosling, 632Y (Metropolitan), stated that on the 6th Feb., 1901, he
was present at the North London Sessions when the prisoner Allen was
convicted, in the name of James Slade, for attempted larceny and
“ringing the changes”. He received 12 months' hard labour. There were
other convictions against Allen, but witness was not in a position to
state them.
Supt. Reeve produced a further list against Allen. It was as follows:-
April 22nd, 1896, three weeks' hard labour at Epsom for stealing an
overcoat; April 19th, 1898, at the North London Sessions, six months'
hard labour for stealing a purse and money.
In a written statement to the Recorder, Jones said he was 33 years of
age, and up to four years ago he always held a good character.
Unfortunately he fell in with bad company and gave way to drink. Since
his last discharge he had been leading an honest life, and worked for a
Mr. Southwood until the day when the Folkestone Races came off. He
begged the Recorder to give his defence consideration and to deal with
him mercifully, as, with God's help, he should promise not to touch
drink again. Since he had been in Canterbury Gaol awaiting his trial,
his brother had written offering to pay his fare to America in order to
get him away from bad company.
Prisoners were sentenced to twelve months' hard labour, and three years'
police supervision.
Jones: Thank you, my Lord.
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Folkestone Herald 17 October 1903.
Quarter Sessions.
Monday, October 12th: Before J.C.L. Coward Esq.
Arthur Jones (29), labourer, and James Allen (49), hawker, pleaded
Guilty to “unlawfully and knowingly uttering one piece of false and
counterfeit coin, apparently intended to pass for certain of the King's
current gold coin, called a half sovereign, on the 19th August, 1903, at
Folkestone”.
Counsel for the Crown, Mt. T. Matthews, said he was instructed that
prisoners were both London criminals who had come down to Folkestone for
the race meeting at Westenhanger in August last. By a trick known as
“ringing the changes”....
Here the Recorder interposed with the remark that “ringing the changes”
had nothing whatever to do with uttering counterfeit coins. It was an
entirely different trick.
Continuing, Counsel pointed out that, whatever the process, the prisoner
Jones went into the public house, called for a drink, handed a sovereign
in payment, and received in the change half a sovereign, and the rest in
silver and bronze. Having got a good half sovereign, prisoner
substituted for it a gilded sixpence, and then asked for the whole of
the change to be given him in silver, thus receiving 10s. for the
counterfeit coin. This was done twice, though in both cases ultimately
unsuccessful. In the first case it was seen to be a bad coin and the men
were pursued. Jones denied having given the gilded sixpence, but he
handed back the money he had received for it. Then they went to the
Harbour Inn, where the same process was repeated. The landlord again had
suspicions, and declined to accept any explanation, giving the man Jones
in charge. Allen was subsequently arrested, and when searched another
gilded sixpence was found upon him, which no doubt he intended to pass
off in the same manner. In addition to the sentence of imprisonment, Mr.
Matthews asked the Recorder, under powers which he was enabled to
exercise, to say that there should be a period of police supervision, as
it would then enable the police to keep their eye upon the men, so as to
prevent them doing anything further of the sort, at any rate in the
direction of making counterfeit coins.
With regard to the first case, the publican victimised, as stated in our
report of the Police Court proceedings, was the landlord of the Red Cow,
Foord.
Particulars concerning previous convictions against the two men were
then given. Detective Sergeant Lee, of the London Force stated that on
the 16th December, 1901, he was present at the Central Criminal Court
when the prisoner Jones, in the name of Edward Connell, was sentenced to
twenty months' hard labour for stealing £3 13s. 6d. from a till.
The Recorder: A stiff sentence for that.
The Detective: Hardly, after his “previouses”.
Proceeding, he said that Jones's criminal career commenced on the 18th
of October, 1899, when, at the Southwark Police Court, he was fined 40s.
or one month's hard labour for stealing money from a public house; on
the 23rd of March, 1900, he was charged at the Guildhall Police Court
for “ringing the changes”. On that occasion his previous convictions
were not proved against him, and he was bound over.
The Recorder: “Ringing the changes” is one thing, and counterfeit coin
another.
Witness: That is so.
Continuing, the detective said that prisoner Jones was at the time in
company with two old convicts. At Epsom Petty Sessions, on the 26th of
April, 1900, he was charged with stealing a pair of opera glasses from
the racecourse, and was sentenced to 5 weeks' imprisonment with hard
labour. Charged with attempted larceny at the South London Sessions on
the 11th of July, 1902, he received fifteen months' hard labour. On that
occasion he was working in concert with others, and was using a stick
with some sticky substance at the end. Whilst his companion attracted
the attention of the person in charge of the bar, the man with the stick
picked up the gold.
With regard to Allen, Police Constable Gosling, of the Metropolitan
Police stated that on the 6th of February, 1901, he was present at the
North London Sessions when the prisoner Allen, in the name of James
Slade, was convicted of attempted larceny and “ringing the changes”,
receiving twelve months hard labour. There were other convictions
recorded against him which he was not in a position to prove.
Chief Constable Reeve informed the Recorder that Allen's proper name was
James Slade. On the 22nd of April, 1896, at Epsom, he was sentenced to
three weeks' hard labour for the theft of an overcoat, whilst at the
North London Sessions on the 19th April, 1898, he was given six months'
hard labour for stealing a purse and money. One summary conviction, for
unlawful possession, was recorded against him, as well as the conviction
spoken to by the last witness.
In a written statement which he handed to the Recorder, Jones said he
was 33 years of age, and up to four years ago he held a good character.
Unfortunately at that time he fell into bad company and gave way to
drink. Since then he had served three terms of imprisonment. Since his
last discharge from prison he had led an honest life until he went to
the races at Folkestone. He had been drinking heavily, and in the
evening uttered the gilded sixpence. He begged for another chance,
promising never to touch drink again. His wife's brother had promised to
pay his fare to America, and he asked the Recorder not to let his past
character weigh heavily against him. His correct name was Edward
Connell, but being in drink he gave the name of Jones. He promised to
leave the country at the expiration of the sentence passed upon him, and
also to lead a sober and industrious life in the future. Under those
circumstanced he begged the Recorder to grant him mercy.
Allen's defence was that this was the first time he had ever been in
Folkestone, and he hoped it would be his last. He was fifty years of
age, and had four children to support. Taking into consideration the
time he had been waiting for his trial, having expressed his guilt in
the first “onset”, he pleaded for the Recorder's mercy.
The Recorder, addressing the prisoners, said they had the worst record
he had ever had before him since he had sat in that Court. They were the
scum of the racecourse. He must pass a sentence upon them to keep them
away from this sort of thing for some time to come, and he felt it his
duty to accede to the request of Counsel for the Crown that they should
be placed under police supervision. If Jones was allowe to go away the
punishment would not act harshly upon him, and the sentence he passed
upon each of them was imprisonment for twelve calendar months, with hard
labour, with police supervision for three years.
Jones: Thank you.
They were then removed below.
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Folkestone Express 19 January 1918.
Local News.
The licence of the Harbour Inn was, on Tuesday, temporarily transferred
from Mr. T. Hall to Mr. Mainwood.
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Folkestone Express 9 February 1918.
Annual Licensing Sessions.
Wednesday, February 6th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Lieut. Col. Fynmore,
Messrs. G.I. Swoffer, G. Boyd, A. Stace and H. Kirke, Colonel Owen and
the Rev. Epworth Thompson.
The following licence was transferred: Harbour Hotel, from Mr. T. Hall
to Mr. Mainwood.
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Folkestone Herald 18 December 1920.
Friday, November 17th: Before Dr. W.J. Tyson, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Mr. G.
Boyd, Mr. W.J. Harrison and Miss E.I. Weston.
Albert Taylor, landlord of the Brewery Tap, was summoned for a breach of
the Shops Order. Mr. A.F. Kidson prosecuted, and Mr. V.D. De Wet
appeared for the defendant, who pleaded Not Guilty.
Mr. Arthur John Wort said at 6.10 p.m. on Wednesday, November 21st, he
visited the defendant's house. He asked for a packet of cigarettes, and
he was served by the defendant's son with a 6d. packet.
Cross-examined, witness said defendant's son and he had played football
together. He did not know him personally as he did not speak to him in
the street. (Laughter)
Mr. De Wet submitted that the Order did not apply to licensed
victuallers. They were exempted under the schedule which exempted other
trades. The licensed victuallers were never asked if they wished to be
exempted from being allowed to open on Wednesday afternoons. Were 110
licensed victuallers, not consulted, to be bound by a three-fourths
majority of the tobacconists?
Defendant was fined 10s.
Mr. De Wet said this was a trade affair, and he asked the Magistrates to
state a case, which request was granted.
Gertrude Florence Lucas (True Briton Hotel) and Ernest Mainwood (Harbour
Hotel) were each fined 10s. for similar offences.
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Folkestone Express 25 December 1920.
Local News.
On Friday morning at the Police Court summonses were heard against three
defendants for a breach of the Shops (Closing) Order, for having sold
cigarettes on a Wednesday afternoon, which day is the recognised half
day holiday for shops in Folkestone.
The Magistrates were Dr. Tyson, Mr. Swoffer, Councillors Miss Weston,
Boyd, Mumford, and Harrison. Mr. A.F. Kidson (Town Clerk) prosecuted,
and Mr. De Wet defended.
Albert Taylor, licensee of the Brewery Tap, was concerned in the first
case heard, and Mr. De Wet pleaded Not Guilty.
Arthur John Wort said he visited the Brewery Tap about 6.10 p.m. on the
24th November, and asked for a packet of cigarettes. He was served by
the defendant's son, Albert George Taylor. He paid sixpence for the
cigarettes.
Cross-examined by Mr. De Wet: No-one was in the bar when he went in, and
defendant's son was behind the bar, and he thought he took the
cigarettes from a shelf. He used to play football in the school team
with defendant's son. He did not know him personally – he did not speak
to him in the street. Mr. Pearson went to the door, and he gave him the
cigarettes.
Mr. De Wet submitted that the Order did not apply to licensed
victuallers. They were a class which were exempted by the very schedule
the Town Clerk had referred to. Licensed victuallers were not retailers
of tobacco and smokers' requisites. Had all the 110 licence holders to
be bound if they were not consulted for the purposes of securing a
three-fourths majority of what they were not – retailers of smokers'
requisites? He asked the Bench to hold that the case was not applicable
to licence holders.
The Bench retired, and on their return to Court the Chairman said the
Magistrates had decided to convict, and the defendant would be fined
10s.
Mr. De Wet said it was a trade offence, and asked the Magistrates would
agree to state a case.
Mrs. Lucas was summoned for the same offence.
Mr. De Wet said the case was similar to the other, and he must plead
Guilty, with compunction.
A.J. Wort said he visited the True Briton, and was served by Mrs. Lucas
with a packet of cigarettes.
Fined 10s.
Ernest Leonard Mainwood was similarly summoned, and A.J. Wort said he
visited the Harbour Hotel about 6.15, and purchased a packet of
cigarettes, for which he paid 6d.
Fined 10s.
Editorial Comment.
Probably we have not heard the last of the licence holders and their
action concerning the sale of tobacco on the early half-closing day. The
penalty inflicted on Friday last was not a severe one, but it shows they
are breaking the law if they serve to their customers after the hours
for the sale of tobacco. It, on the face, appears unjust, that when
those hours were fixed by the Town Council, following a request by the
tobacconists of the town, that the licensed victuallers were not
consulted as to their wishes. If they had been the voting would
doubtless have been different to what it was. It seems an anomaly that
at Cheriton and Sandgate cigarettes and tobacco can be purchased on the
early half-closing day, yet on the Folkestone side of the boundaries a
smoker, if he has run out of his choice weed, will have to wait until
the following day before he can enjoy his pipe or cigarette again. There
are always officials ready to pounce on innocent offenders, but to the
man in the street it seems strange that so much time can be devoted to
pin-pricking tradesmen, who are endeavouring to make an honest living,
yet at the same time such danger spots as that brought to the light of
day by an inquest held last week are allowed to exist in a civilised
community and in a fashionable town like Folkestone. It would be of
interest to learn what action the Sanitary Department took in that
particular matter.
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Folkestone Herald 25 December 1920.
Editorial.
Bumble oracularly declared that “the law is a hass”. It is not unlikely
that many people, after reading the reports of the cases in which three
licensed victuallers were fined for the heinous crime of selling
cigarettes on Wednesday afternoon, expressed themselves in a similar
fashion. We make no reflection upon the Folkestone Magistrates who heard
the prosecutions. The law being as it is, they probably felt they had no
alternative but to fine the defendants. At the same time they would have
shown a greater appreciation of the fitness of things by imposing a mere
nominal penalty of one shilling. But the amount of the fine is not a
very serious matter one way or the other. The material point is the
state of things in which it is an offence for a publican to sell a
cigar, cigarette or tobacco after one o'clock on Wednesday. One
satisfactory result of the proceedings is that the Magistrates consented
to state a case, and, as we understand, the licensed victuallers intend
to take steps with a view to securing the removal of this gross anomaly.
We are firm believers in law and order, but when the application of the
law leads to such a pass as this we venture to suggest that it is time
to enquire whether there is not some error either in the application or
in the law itself.
The cases were the outcome of the operation of the Shop Hours Act,
containing provision for the closing of shops one half day in every
week. That measure allows a certain amount of latitude to tobacconists.
They are set apart in a class distinct from shopkeepers generally; they
are under no obligation to shut on the customary closing day unless a
two-thirds majority petition the Town Council to make an order that they
shall do so. That is what happened some years ago. The tobacconists
wished to come within the scope of the general order, and the necessary
majority memorialised the Corporation accordingly. But – and this is a
big “but” – the licensed victuallers, who are also tobacconists, were
not consulted in the matter at all. Yet they are expected to conform to
an order in the making of which they had no voice! Could anything be
more unfair? Simple justice and common sense alike dictate that either
they should be regarded as “tobacconists”, and therefore consulted
before the order is applied to them or they should not be affected by
the order. Licensed victuallers are, indeed, provided for by legislation
as a separate class, and they are hedged about and harassed by many
restrictions from which other traders are immune. They have therefore
the stronger claim to consideration in this matter.
Possibly the result of the case to be stated by the Justices will be a
decision that they cannot be regarded as coming within the scope of the
order. If not, then it must be hoped that the powers that be will rule
that the publicans must be classed as “tobacconists” in so far as the
matter of petitioning the local authority for an order is concerned. In
justice to the tobacconists it must be said – so we are informed on good
authority – that the majority of them are not opposed to licensed
victuallers and cinemas selling cigars, cigarettes, or tobacco on
Wednesday afternoon. But it is not merely the tobacconists or the
licensed victuallers who have a claim to be heard on this subject. The
public generally has a voice in the matter, and many people consider it
is a serious grievance that they are debarred from purchasing their
smoking materials at hotels and public houses on Wednesday afternoons
when the ordinary tobacconists are closed. True, smokers living at
Morehall, at Cheriton, at Sandgate, and at Hythe can get what they want
that afternoon from the ordinary cigar stores, these being open for
business as usual. Viewed in the light of this fact, the state of things
at Folkestone is a still greater anomaly.
There is another aspect of the case. We are convinced that it is
detrimental to the interests of Folkestone as a health and pleasure
resort that the tobacconists as a body close on Wednesday afternoon,
especially in the summer. If, however, they elect to close, they are
free to do so. But let those who wish to meet the convenience of the
public by supplying them with cigarettes and the like and also the
public itself be likewise free to do as they wish. Let us have freedom
all round.
Comment.
The recent prosecution of certain licensed victuallers and the Managing
Director of a cinema, for selling cigarettes on Wednesday afternoon has
been the subject of much comment since the cases were reported in last
week's Herald. The state of affairs is anomalous in the extreme. Whilst
an innocent cigarette is forbidden to freedom loving Britons in
Folkestone on Wednesday afternoons, he can cross the border either to
Sandgate or Cheriton and purchase all he desires in this respect. Surely
it is time that steps should be taken to bring about some alteration.
With the object of securing the views of “The Trade” on this subject a
Herald representative waited on the Chairman of the Folkestone and
District Licensed Victuallers' Association (Mr. Rivers) at the Victoria
Hotel, Risborough Lane. Unfortunately he was confined to his room
through indisposition, but he kindly sent a message through his daughter
to the effect that it was a most absurd position that a body of about a
dozen men (an insignificant minority) should be able to control a
majority as was done in this case.
Mr. Albert Hart, the energetic Secretary of the Licensed Victuallers'
Association, on being asked his opinion on the subject, emphatically
replied “Absolutely rotten. In the first place I should think the Health
Committee of the Town Council would be doing a good thing if they
directed Inspector Pearson to get on with his duties as Sanitary
Inspector, instead of hiding up behind walls and doors whilst a boy is
utilised to trap honest traders. Here is the situation. Some time ago
about fourteen members of the tobacco trade (if indeed there was such a
number) asked the Council to apply the provision of the Shop Hours Act
to the tobacco trade in the borough. Now the enforcement of the Act
means that 300 licensed tobacco dealers in the town are prevented from
selling tobacco in any form after one o'clock on Wednesday”.
In answer to another query, Mr. Hart said “Yes, it applies to hotels and
restaurants. All liberty-loving Englishmen revolt at such a situation,
and they revolt also at the methods employed in order to secure a paltry
conviction. We as a trade – combined with other tobacco licensees –
intend to take steps to secure the revocation of this absurd application
of a law, which was never intended to apply to the tobacco trade”.
Our representative also interviewed the manageress of a large hotel, and
she kindly showed him her written instructions that tobacco could not be
sold in any licensed house after one on Wednesdays, nor after eight p.m.
on other days, with the exception of Saturday, when the hour was
extended till nine. It was possible if a chance bar customer ordered a
meal to secure a cigarette or cigar, but as to what constituted a meal
there was some doubt. Some men, she remarked, could make a good meal off
a hunk of bread and cheese, whilst another would probably require
several courses to make up a meal. Hotel guests cannot be served after
the hours mentioned above unless they are sleeping in the house.
The Manager of the Leas Tobacco Company, Sandgate Road, said it was
necessary in the interests, not only of the trade itself, but the public
generally, that the vexatious restrictions should be swept away. It was
intolerable that an insignificant minority should rule, as in this case.
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Folkestone Herald 26 February 1921.
Felix.
The Mayor (Alderman Reginald G. Wood, J.P.) at the recent Licensing
Sessions, after congratulating the local “Trade” on the manner in which
they had conducted their business, expressed the hope that the time
would come when the Continental cafe system would be introduced into
England. And anyone who had had experience of that system will agree
with him. At the Elham county Licensing meeting, Sir Clarence Smith, the
Chairman, after noting the good report of Superintendent Castle, amongst
other things, suggested that licensed victuallers, in order to meet a
demand, should supply teas. Whether Mr. E.L. Mainwood, of the Harbour
Hotel, had been reading these remarks I cannot say, but within the past
few days he has launched out as a licensed victualler in the true sense
of the word. And I understand his effort has been crowned so far with
success.
Mr. Mainwood's action deserves more than passing notice. Our friend (who
at one time conducted a boarding house in Langhorne Gardens) has
provided an example of what it is possible to do as a “victualler”. He
opens his establishment on the stroke of ten, and for those who need the
beverage there is tea, coffee, Bovril, and the rest, and also a big
choice in the way of eatables, from the homely crust of bread and cheese
to the home made sausage roll. And this kind of thing goes on all day
during “closing hours”. If a supper is required, there it is. This
particular hotel being opposite to the termini of the buses to Cheriton,
and in close proximity to the Harbour, the idea has “caught on”
immensely. Mr. Claude Garling, at the Clarendon Hotel, is also one of
those who believes in providing this supplement to the ordinary
business. This new departure is one that might be emulated, according to
the needs of a neighbourhood, and because it is a step in the right
direction. I give this matter some prominence. If Mr. Mainwood's example
was followed more generally, then the members of the “Trade” would be
doing more good in the direction of promoting pure temperance than all
the “Pussyfoots” in the world.
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Folkestone Express 10 September 1927.
Obituary.
We regret to have to record the death on Sunday, at his residence, 11,
Limes Road, of Mr. Thomas Cornelius Hall, at the age of 63 years.
The late Mr. Hall, who was very well known in Folkestone, and highly
respected by a large circle of friends, was for 18 years proprietor of
the Harbour Hotel. He was also a director of several local companies. He
was a keen sportsman, and was the founder of the Wingate Cricket Club,
being the treasurer of the first Folkestone Cricket League.
The funeral took place at the cemetery on Wednesday.
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Folkestone Herald 10 September 1927.
Obituary.
We regret to announce the death on Sunday at his residence, 11 Limes
Road, of Mr. Thomas Cornelius Hall, at the age of 63 years. Mr. Hall was
a well-known and much respected figure in the town, particularly in the
neighbourhood of the Harbour, and enjoyed the friendship of a large
circle. His manner endeared him to all, and his passing is much
regretted. Much sympathy is extended to the widow in her bereavement.
For the past eighteen years he had been the proprietor of the Harbour
Hotel (sic), and prior to that he was, for a considerable period a
steward on the cross-Channel boats. He was a director of several local
companies, including the Central Picture Theatre and the Folkestone L.V.
Mineral Water Company.
The funeral took place at the Cemetery on Wednesday.
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Folkestone Herald 8 March 1941.
Local News.
Two soldiers who took an ornament front the counter of a public house
were charged before the Folkestone Magistrates on Monday with theft.
Gnr. Raymond McCann and Gnr. Gordon Rafferty, the accused, pleaded
Guilty to stealing the ornament, valued £1, the property of Mr. George
B. Offen, of the Harbour Hotel, South Street.
Mr. Offen stated that the ornament stood on the saloon counter and just
before 10 o’clock the previous night he missed if. Defendants had been
in the saloon bar before that.
P.C. Boss said at 10.50 the previous night, while on duty in Sandgate
High Street, he was called to a bus where he saw defendants with an
ornament on the seat between them. He asked them to account for its
possession and they said they had brought it from Hythe that evening.
Witness was not satisfied and questioned them again. McCann then said “I
think we took it from somewhere near the docks at Folkestone”. He
detained accused, who were brought to the Police Station. Both men had
been drinking but they were not drunk.
Det. Const. Hall said he saw defendants at the police station. He spoke
to McCann and asked him again to account for being in possession of the
ornament He replied “I think we got it down at the Harbour; try the
Harbour Hotel". Later they were charged and McCann replied “It was quite
my own fault. Gunner Rafferty had nothing to do with it whatever”.
McCann told the Magistrates that it was his fault. They were under the
influence of drink at the time and took the ornament as a prank. There
was no intention of stealing it.
The Clerk (Mr. C. Rootes): What were you going to do with it?
McCann: We took it as a kind of souvenir, but I don’t suppose we should
have wanted to have anything to do with it in the morning.
"We had no intention of stealing it”, said Rafferty.
The ornament was broken when shown to the Magistrates, and P.C. Boss
explained that it had been broken in course of transit from Sandgate to
the police station.
An officer stated that there was nothing against either of the
defendants.
The Chairman (Dr. W.W. Nuttall), presiding with Mr. P. Fuller, said the
Magistrates thought defendants had been rather foolish. They must have
had too much to drink, and probably this would be a lesson to them. The
Magistrates dismissed the case on payment of 15s. costs and £1
compensation.
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Folkestone Herald 5 June 1943.
Local News.
At Folkestone Transfer Sessions on Wednesday the licence of the Earl
Grey Inn was transferred to a representative of Messrs. Fremlin's, and
the licence of the Harbour Hotel to a representative of Messrs. George
Beer and Rigden.
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Folkestone Herald 8 June 1946.
Local News.
Folkestone Magistrates on Tuesday granted a protection order to Mr. John
L. McKenzie in respect of the Harbour Inn, Harbour Street, which, after
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Folkestone Herald 26 July 1947.
Local News.
Four soldiers and four civilians were charged at the Folkestone
Magistrates’ Court on Tuesday with offences relating to a quantity of
cigarettes and other goods missing from a kiosk on the Marine Promenade,
Folkestone. The magistrates were informed that other arrests were
pending.
Pte. Charles Stuart, Fus. John Barron and Fus. John Thomas Terry were
charged with being concerned, with others not in custody, in breaking
and entering the kiosk and stealing 20,000 cigarettes, 20 packets of
razor blades, two petrol lighters, three tobacco pouches and four
cigarette cases, valued £163, the property of Messrs. Finlay and Co.
Ltd., on July 7th. Fus. Alfred West, stationed at Shorncliffe, was
charged with receiving cigarettes valued £27 18/4; Joseph Routh, a cafe
employee, of 42, Tontine Street, Folkestone, was charged with receiving
1,370 cigarettes, valued £11 13/4; John Lloyd McKenzie, licensee of the
Harbour Hotel, Harbour Street, Folkestone, was charged with receiving
cigarettes valued £16 5/-; and Jack Harry Cole, an amusement arcade
attendant, of 9, Tontine Street, Folkestone, was charged with receiving
cigarettes valued £70 5/10, including one lot of 3,000 and another of
500. The seven men were remanded until next Wednesday, Routh, McKenzie
and Cole being granted bail. The four soldiers were remanded in custody.
Mr. Worthington Edridge appeared for McKenzie and Cole.
Chief Inspector R.J. Butcher, opposing bail for the soldiers, said there
were still other men to be arrested in regard to the breaking offence.
D. Const. Huddart, Folkestone, said at 3.15 a.m. last Saturday,
accompanied by D. Const. Barrett, he saw Barron at Shorncliffe Camp. He
told him he was making enquiries regarding the breaking and entering of
a kiosk on the Marine Promenade, Folkestone, during the night of July
7th. He told Barron that he had reason to believe he knew something
about it. Barron said “I know nothing about it”. Barron was taken into
custody, and later, at Folkestone police station, he said “I admit being
concerned with others”. At 9.15 a.m. on Monday he saw Stuart at
Shorncliffe Camp and he denied being concerned in the breaking, saying:
“I know nothing. I have nothing to say”. As they entered the police car
Stuart said “All right, I was In this, and had £6 10/- out of it, I will
tell you all about it”. Continuing, D. Const Huddart said last Monday he
saw Terry at Shorncliffe Camp. Terry said “They have told me all about
it”. At the police station Terry said “I had only 1,000; they told me
there were 7,000. I sold mine in bits and pieces in the town”. Witness
said he charged the three defendants. Barron replied “I do not know
anything about three tobacco pouches. West did not know where it came
from, or anything about it. I just asked him to find a buyer for some
stuff. The lighter he had he was repairing for me. The flint got stuck
up”. Stuart replied “I say nothing to that charge yet”. Terry said “I
have already told you about it. They said there were 7,000”. D. Const.
Huddart said at 10 p.m. on Friday last, in consequence of information
received, he was outside the Clarendon Hotel, Tontine Street, when he
saw West step outside from the bar accompanied by another man who handed
a sum of money to West. He detained West and told him that he was a
police officer making enquiries respecting some stolen cigarettes and
that he had reason to believe that he had received some of them. West
replied “I was borrowing £1 from him”. Later at the police station he
said “Barron asked me to get him a buyer for some stuff and he also
asked me to collect the money from the fellows for him”. When charged
with receiving the cigarettes West said “At the time I did not know they
were stolen. When I did I helped you all I could”. At 12.30 a.m. on
Saturday, witness continued, he saw Routh at 42, Tontine Street, and
recovered from him a quantity of cigarettes. Last Monday evening he went
to 42, Tontine Street and took Routh into custody and charged him with
receiving the cigarettes. He said: “I did not know they were stolen. He
told me he had got them from London”. Routh was released on bail.
D.Const. Huddart said at 1.30 a.m. on Saturday he saw McKenzie at the
Harbour Hotel. In consequence of what McKenzie said he went to a house
in another part of the town; and recovered a case containing cigarettes.
On Monday he charged McKenzie with receiving cigarettes valued £16 15/-,
and he said “I would rather not say anything”. At 7.15 p.m. on Saturday
he saw Cole at 9, Tontine Street. He told him he was going to take him
into custody for receiving a quantity of cigarettes, and he said “What's
this all about?” Later the same evening he was released on ball. He saw
Cole again on Monday when he was charged with receiving cigarettes to
the value of £70 5/10. Cole replied “There was not £70 of cigarettes.
There was about £40 worth”.
On Thursday Pte. William Thomas Newman, stationed at Shorncliffe, was
remanded in custody on a charge of being concerned in breaking and
entering the kiosk.
Det.Con. Huddart, Folkestone, said when he saw Newman at Folkestone
police station he said “I was with the fellows but I did not have any of
the stuff. I left them on the Sandgate Road on the way back to
barracks”. Later, when he was charged, Newman said “I did not think
there was all that stuff taken. I did not have any of it, nor have I
sold any of it”.
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Folkestone Herald 2 August 1947.
Local News.
Eleven men, including five soldiers, appeared at Folkestone Magistrates
Court on Wednesday to answer charges relating to the alleged theft and
disposal of 20,000 cigarettes and other articles, valued at £163, the
property of Messrs. Finlay and Co., Ltd.
Fus. John Thomas Terry, Fus. John Barron, Pte. Charles Thomas Newman and
Fus. Richard William Wilson, stationed at Shorncliffe Camp, were charged
with breaking and entering a kiosk on the Marine Parade, Folkestone, and
stealing 20,000 cigarettes, 20 packets of razor blades, 2 petrol
lighters, 3 tobacco pouches and 4 cigarette cases to the total Value of
£163 on July 8th. Fus. Alfred John West, stationed at Shorncliffe Camp,
was charged with receiving 3,600 cigarettes, worth £27 18/4; Joseph
Routh, a cafe employee, of 42, Tontine Street, Folkestone, was charged
with receiving 1,400 cigarettes, valued at £11 13/4; John Lloyd
McKenzie, licensee of the Harbour Hotel, Harbour Street, Folkestone, was
charged with receiving 2,200 cigarettes, valued at £16 5/-; Sydney
Frederick Moore, a newspaper seller, of Mill Bay, Folkestone, was
charged with receiving 1,400 cigarettes, valued at £11 13/4; Sydney
Albert Walter Barton, a labourer, of Queen Street, Folkestone, was
charged with receiving 2,200 cigarettes, valued at £16 5/-; Jack Harry
Cole, of Jack's Cafe and Amusement Arcade, Tontine Street, Folkestone,
was charged with receiving 5,000 cigarettes of unknown value, and 710
cigarettes worth £4 17/6, well-knowing them to have been stolen.
Mr. T.K. Edie, representing McKenzie, Mr. M. Morris, for Cole, and Mr.
N.S. Franks, for Routh, all pleaded Not Guilty. Stuart also pleaded Not
Guilty to breaking and entering the kiosk. Bail was granted to Routh,
McKenzie, Cole, Moore, Barton, Newman and Wilson, but West, Stuart,
Barron and Terry were refused bail, following opposition from the
police. All the men were committed for trial at the West Kent Quarter
Sessions on August 28th.
Mr. E.G. Weale, prosecuting, read a statement from Barton in which he
was alleged to have said “When on the Pent Wall, where the whelk barrows
are, about 6.30 p.m. yesterday, a soldier and a civilian came up to me.
The civilian asked me if I could sell him some stuff. I said “What sort
of stuff?” and both of them said “Cigarettes”. I said “O.K., I can sell
you some. How many have you got?” They said “Five to six thousand”. I
walked along to where Syd Moore was selling his papers and said to him
“There’s a chance to get yourself £1 or £2 quite; there’s some chaps got
some cigarettes they want to get rid of”. Syd said to me “I know a a
couple of places”. I then took the soldier and the civilian to Moore.
They said “O.K., we’ll get them sorted out”. We later met the soldier
and the civilian in South Street. The soldier handed me an attache case,
which I had given to the civilian. I went to the Harbour and sold the
cigarettes to the governor, “Mac”, for £14 14/2. I went to the Clarendon
and gave the money to the civilian. When I handed him the money Syd
Moore was present”.
Mr. Weale said Moore also made a statement, and it was alleged he said
“The civilian came up to me in South street and handed an attache case
to Barton. The soldier was with him and handed me a carrier bag filled
with cigarettes. I said to him “O.K., I’ll get rid of them and meet you
in the Clarendon. I went to an address in Tontine Street, but found that
the man was out. So I went to the Clarendon and told the civilian that I
would take them up to the Shakespeare. When I was talking to him Barton
came up and said “O.K., I’ve sold out”, and handed him £13 or £14. I
went to the Shakespeare and saw Joe Routh. I said to him “Well, here
they are then”, and he said “Why didn’t you leave them down there?” I
had previously arranged with him to buy them. He said “Take them down to
my house and ask my wife to give you £9. If she won’t give you her
money, tell her to give you mine”. I delivered the cigarettes to the
Ensign Cafe and got the £9. I met Barton near Wilson’s and we were
sharing the money when the police arrested us”.
Cole also made a statement in which he was alleged to have said “About
July 8th, during the afternoon, a Paratrooper, whom I know as “Johnnie”,
came into the cafe with three or four other soldiers. The Paratrooper
spoke to me and asked me if I wanted to buy some cigarettes at
pre-budget price. I said to him “Are they all right?”, and he said
“They’re not knocked off. They’ve come from the N.A.A.F.I.”. I told him
I would have some off him. He said “You can have the dear ones for 2/6
and the cheap ones for 1/9”. Continuing, the statement alleged that the
soldier handed Cole two valises filled with cigarettes. He counted the
cigarettes but could not say exactly how many there were. Two or three
days later the soldier came with a haversack full of cigarettes.
Altogether he had 5,000 cigarettes for which he paid £27/10/-. “After
the police had visited me on July 1st I took the remainder of the
cigarettes, which I had not sold, together with the 500 ‘Tenner’
cigarettes, and put them in the empty premises, 71a, High Street”, the
statement concluded.
Mrs. Edith Lester, 43, Princess Street, Folkestone, said she was
manageress employed by Messrs. Finlay and Co., posted at their kiosk on
Marine Parade. At 6.15 p.m. on July 7th she left the kiosk locked and
secured. The following morning she found the door, facing towards the
sea, had been forced open. She subsequently took stock of the contents
of the kiosk and articles and cigarettes valued at £163 were missing.
Charles Robert Hall, a builder, of 67, Bradstone Road, Folkestone, said
he had recently been doing repairs to 71a, High Street, Folkestone,
premises over Jack’s Cafe. At 10 a.m. on July 19th Cole came into the
premises. He was carrying a black case and asked him if he could dump
the parcel for him. He took the case from Cole and left the premises at
10 and 10.20 a.m. He went home, left the case there and returned to
work. He returned home again at about 2.20 p.m., put the case straight
on the fire and destroyed the lot because he was a little nervous.
Det. Const. Huddart, Folkestone, said at 9.45 p.m. on July 18th,
accompanied by Det.Const. Barrett, he went to Tontine Street where he
saw Barton, carrying a small attache case, enter the porchway of 44,
Tontine Street, an empty shop. They followed the accused into the
porchway and saw him sharing out some money with Moore. Witness said he
told the two men that he had reason to believe they had been selling a
quantity of cigarettes and that they would be detained for further
enquiries. Barton said “I will show you who I have been selling them
for. One is a civvy and the other a soldier”. They accompanied Barton to
the Clarendon Hotel, where he saw him beckon to West and hand over to
him £3 in £1 notes. Whilst in custody Moore made a statement and handed
to him the sum of £5 6/5. He said “Here is the rest of the money”. At
3.15 a.m. on July 19th, when searching kit belonging to Barron, he found
14 packets of razor blades and a cigarette lighter. Barron said “Five
packets I bought at the N.A.A.F.I.; the other nine packets and the
lighter are from the job”. In Stuart's kit he found a packet of 10
Capstan cigarettes in a civilian jacket. At the police station Stuart
made a statement.
In the statement, read by the Clerk (Mr. C. Rootes), Stuart was alleged
to have said “About four o'clock in the afternoon of Monday, July 7th,
1947, I left barracks with Fus. Barron and another soldier. We bussed
into Folkestone and went to the Rotunda Amusement Arcade. At 5.30 p.m.
we met Fus. Terry and Wilson and Newman, who were with another soldier
that I do not know. By then it was getting late and as we did not have
any cigarettes between us someone suggested that we go and get some. I
was walking slightly in front of the others and heard one of them say
“Let us go down on to the beach. I know where we can get some”.
According to his alleged statement, Stuart sat on the beach for about
half an hour and then heard someone whistle and saw the others in a
shelter. They were putting cigarettes into their blouses and pockets,
and so he put some inside his battledress jacket. When they got back to
barracks the cigarettes were put in a spare barrack room box and he did
not see them again, but he knew they were to be sold. The statement
continued that on July 8th he met Barron in Jack’s Amusement Arcade in
Tontine Street and he gave him £3 10/-. He received another £3 from
Barron on July 10th. He then told Barron that he did not want any more
and that he was washing his hands of the whole affair. Fus. Terry and
Wilson came to the barrack room on July 8th and took their share of the
cigarettes.
At 12.30 a.m. on July 19th he went to 42, Tontine Street, where he saw
Routh. He told Routh they were police officers and he had reason to
believe that he had purchased some cigarettes from Moore during the
evening. He replied “I know nothing about any cigarettes. You can search
the place. I have been in the Shakespeare since half past seven”. When
he was cautioned, he said “All right, I take the responsibility; I
bought them off him”. At 2.30 a.m. he handed witness an attache case,
saying “Here they are”. The case contained 600 Capstan, 250 Churchman,
240 Gold Flake, 80 Players, 130 Senior Service and 100 Richmond Gem
cigarettes. He saw defendant McKenzie at 10.30 a.m. on July 19th and
told him he had reason to believe that he had purchased a quantity of
cigarettes from Barton during the previous evening. He replied “No, sir.
I know nothing about any cigarettes”. Later he said “Yes. I thought so
immediately after the man had gone. I am a ---- fool. I have panicked
and sent them to a friend to look after for a few days”. At the police
station he produced the case to McKenzie and drew his attention to the
fact that it contained 2,200 cigarettes – 1,000 Woodbines, 250 Senior
Service, 650 Gold Flakes and 300 Capstan – but he made no reply. He went
to 9, Tontine Street at 8.30 a.m. on July 19th, when he saw Cole and
told him he was making enquiries respecting cigarettes that had been
stolen. He said he had reason to believe that a number of the cigarettes
were concealed on his premises, where they had ben left by some
soldiers. Cole said “I know nothing about it. You can have a look
around”. He then went into the amusement arcade and whilst searching the
workshop he found an American Army handgrip containing 170 Gold Flake
and 40 Embassy cigarettes. Cole said “I know nothing about them”. At
10.20 a.m. the same day he again visited the premises and in the arcade
office he found two Army valises and one Army haversack. Later he
produced the American handgrip to Barron, who said “That belongs to a
chap in my billet who was demobbed last Monday”. When he searched West's
kit he found a petrol lighter, and West said “That belongs to Barron. I
was repairing it for him. The flint was jammed up”.
Replying to Mr. Edie, witness said McKenzie was the licensee of the
Harbour Hotel and was a man of excellent character.
Stuart said he did not agree to 20,000 cigarettes and pleaded Not Guilty
to breaking and entering.
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Folkestone Herald 6 September 1947.
Local News.
Five Shorncliffe soldiers who stole and disposed of 20,000 cigarettes
and other articles in Folkestone in July were sentenced at West Kent
Quarter Sessions at Maidstone on Wednesday. A sixth soldier and five
civilians alleged to have been involved in the offences had also been
committed for trial from the Folkestone Court. The hearing of the cases
was adjourned until the next Sessions on October 16th. In making this
announcement the Chairman (Mr. Gerald E. Thesiger M.B.E.) said the
hearing would probably take place the following day.
Fusilier John Thomas Terry (20), Fusilier John Barron (21), Pte. Charles
William Henry Stuart (24), Pte. Charles Thomas Newman (21), and Fusilier
Richard William Wilson (25), pleaded Guilty to breaking and entering a
kiosk on Marine Parade, Folkestone, and stealing 20,000 cigarettes, 20
packets of razor blades, two petrol lighters, three tobacco pouches and
four cigarette cases, of the total value of £163, the property of
Messrs. Finlay and Co. Ltd., on July 6th.
The following had also been indicted: Fusilier Alfred John West, charged
with receiving 3,600 cigarettes; Joseph Routh, a cafe employee, of 42,
Tontine Street, Folkestone, charged with receiving 1,400 cigarettes;
John Lloyd Mckenzie, licensee of the Harbour Hotel, Folkestone charged
with receiving 2,200 cigarettes; Sydney Frederick Moore, a newspaper
seller, of Mill Bay, Folkestone, charged with receiving 1,400
cigarettes; Sydney Albert Walter Barton, a labourer, of Queen Street,
Folkestone, charged with receiving 2,200 cigarettes; and Jack Harry
Cole, of Jack's Cafe and Amusement Arcade, Tontine Street, Folkestone,
charged with receiving 5,000 cigarettes of unknown value, and 710
cigarettes, valued at £4 17/7, well-knowing them to have been stolen.
Cole was not present, it being stated that he was ill and was in
hospital.
In the case of the civilian defendants bail was renewed. West had been
remanded in custody. He was now allowed bail in his recognisance of £100
providing a surety for a similar sum could be obtained.
Mr. R. Beddington appeared for Barron, Mr. M. Morris for McKenzie, Miss
Dorothy Knight Dix for Routh, Mr. A.L. Stevenson for Newman and Wilson,
and Mr. Neave for Terry and Stuart.
Mr. Maxwell Turner, prosecuting, said Cole would be available in about
three weeks' time. Mr. Morris said he had no objection to the
adjournment, but McKenzie would like the case dealt with as soon as
possible to get it cleared up. Mr. Turner suggested that all the
defendants should have the one trial.
The Chairman: I think that would be the best course.
Mr. Turner said that when Stuart was seen at Shorncliffe Camp on July
21st he said he had nothing to say. In due course he was taken to the
police station, where he said he “had had £6 10/- out of it”, and he
would tell all about it. He made a statement. Terry said he had only
1,000 cigarettes, which he sold in “bits and pieces” in a pub. Barron at
first denied all knowledge of what had happened, but afterwards he
admitted being concerned with the others. In his kit was found 14
packets of cigarettes, a lighter and some razor blades. Afterwards 210
cigarettes were found on Cole's premises. Mr. Turner said Newman stated
that he had none of the cigarettes; he said he left the other men in
Sandgate Road on the way back to barracks. Wilson said “That's right. I
had about 3,000. Some I sold in London and the rest I smoked myself”.
Det. Const. T.W. Huddart said Stuart had three previous convictions, and
he wished to have four other cases of larceny taken into consideration.
He joined the Royal West Kent Regiment on September 3rd, 1940. Whilst he
was in India he served 18 months for desertion. Terry had three previous
convictions, for receiving stolen property, shop breaking and larceny,
and house breaking and larceny. He received three years' Borstal
detention, and his licence expired in January, 1949. Barton had six
previous convictions; Newman two previous convictions, including one for
an indecent assault on a female; and Wilson had no previous convictions.
Wilson joined the Army in July, 1942, and served in North Africa, Sicily
and Italy.
Capt. L.A. Douris said Stuart and Terry had indifferent characters,
Barron's character was quite good, and Newman's was very good. He had no
record regarding Wilson.
Mr. Stevenson asked if there had been a mistake about Wilson's pay,
which resulted in a drastic reduction for his wife.
Capt. Douris: I cannot help you there.
Mr. Stevenson said Wilson's wife's allowance had been reduced from £4
8/6 a week to £2 5/6 a week, and his own pay from 31/6 to 7/6 a week.
Since then the paymaster had found that a mistake had been made, but
Wilson wanted to earn some money. He had a wife and four children, one
of whom was in hospital.
The Chairman said the statements of the accused showed that
considerable care was taken in “the flogging of the stuff”. Stuart
should have known better than to have got into trouble again. His
civilian and Army records were unsatisfactory. He would be sent to
prison for eight months. Terry had already been sentenced for
housebreaking and had had Borstal detention. Whatever sentence was
passed he would have to go back to a Borstal institution, and he
(the Chairman) thought the best course would be for him to impose a
nominal sentence of 28 days' imprisonment. Barron had also been sent
to a Borstal institution, and his licence would have expired next
year. He would be sent to prison for eight months. It looked as if
Newman did not get very much out of the offence. He would pay £5
towards the costs of the prosecution and would be bound over for two
years in his own recognisance in the sum of £5. Wilson was now
demobilised. Whilst he was in the Army nothing appeared to be known
against him, and he had no civil convictions. He enlisted on his own
accord, and had been given a very good character. But he had some of
the cigarettes and “flogged” them in London. Wilson would also be
bound over for two years in his own recognisance in the sum of £5
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Folkestone Herald 13 September 1947.
Local News.
In our report last week of the case in which five soldiers were tried
for the theft of cigarettes, it was stated that “Barton had six previous
convictions.” The name should have been Barron. As was stated, the
charges against five civilians and a sixth soldier were adjourned.
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Folkestone Herald 25 October 1947.
Local News.
Jack Harry Cole (30), an amusement arcade proprietor, 9, Tontine Street,
Folkestone, was at West Kent Quarter Sessions at Maidstone on Monday
sentenced to four months’ imprisonment on a charge of receiving 5,500
cigarettes, well knowing them to have been stolen. He was found not
guilty on a further charge of receiving 210 cigarettes. Four other
Folkestone men who were found guilty of similar offences were bound
over. They were Sidney Albert Walter Barton (38), labourer, Queen
Street, charged with receiving 2,200 cigarettes; Sidney Frederick Moore
(52), paper roundsman, Mill Bay, charged with receiving 1,400
cigarettes; John Lloyd McKenzie (58), licensee of the Harbour Hotel,
charged with receiving 2,200 cigarettes; and Joseph Routh (47), a
waiter, 42, Tontine Street, charged with receiving 1,400 cigarettes, in
each case well-knowing them to have been stolen. McKenzie was ordered to
pay £10 and Routh £5 towards the costs of the prosecution. All the
accused pleaded Not Guilty.
McKenzie was defended by Mr. T.K. Edie, Cole by Mr. Malcolm Morris, and
Routh by Miss Dorothy Knight Dix.
Fusilier Alfred John West, Shorncliffe Camp, was charged with receiving
3,600 cigarettes, knowing them to have been stolen. Upon the direction
of the Chairman (Mr. Gerald A. Thesiger M.B.E.) he was found Not Guilty
on the grounds of insufficient evidence, and was discharged. He was
represented by Mr. Lermon.
At the previous sessions five soldiers were found Guilty of breaking and
entering a kiosk on Marine Promenade, Folkestone, on July 8th, and
stealing 20,000 cigarettes and other articles, of the total value of
£163, the property of Messrs. Finlay and Co. Ltd.
At Monday's hearing statements alleged to have been made by the accused
to a police officer, and which were quoted at the Magistrates' hearing
at Folkestone, were read by Mr. Maxwell Turner, who prosecuted.
The first witness was Mrs. Edith Lester, 43, Princess Street,
Folkestone, manageress employed by Messrs. Finlay and Co., who said
cigarettes and other articles valued £163 were missing from the kiosk on
the Marine Promenade on July 8th.
D.C. Huddart, Folkestone, said that at 9.45 p.m. on July 18th he went to
Tontine Street, where he saw Barton, who had an attaché case, enter the
porchway of a shop. He was with Moore, and they were sharing out some
money. He went with Barton to the Clarendon, where fusilier West was in
the bar. Barton gave West three £1 notes.
Replying to further questions, witness said on July 19th he found 210
cigarettes in an American valise in a kind of workshop which led from
the Tontine Street part of Cole's Amusement Arcade. He also found two
Army greatcoats there. Cole said he had never seen the cigarettes
before.
Mr. Lermon asked if it was within witness's knowledge that soldiers
coming from abroad for demobilisation brought large quantities of
cigarettes with them.
Witness: No.
Mr. Lermon: Do you know that soldiers coming home from the Far Fast are
issued with cigarettes at cut prices? - I believe that is common on a
troopship.
It would not surprise you, would it, that soldiers were arriving at the
Camp with quite a large number of cigarettes? – It would.
Why? – Because through the Customs and Excise only a limited number
could be brought into this country.
Mr. Edie: You saw McKenzie on July 19th?
Witness: Yes.
If McKenzie sold the cigarettes to his customers at the retail price he
would make about £3? – Yes.
Det. Con. Huddart, replying to counsel, said McKenzie served in the
R.A.S.C. in the 1914 – 18 war, and in the R.A.F. from 1919 until 1945.
He attained the rank of warrant officer and was awarded the M.B.E. He
left the R.A.F. with an exemplary character.
Witness agreed with Miss Knight Dix that Mrs. Routh was proprietress of
the cafe where her husband was employed as a waiter. She was worried and
bothered about the matter. Routh had a good character, with no previous
convictions.
Mr. Turner: It is suggested that the cigarettes in this case had been
issued to troops coming from overseas. Did they bear any stamp upon
them? – No. Cigarettes I have seen issued to troops are marked that they
are duty free.
Charles Robert Hall, a builder, 67, Bradstone Road, said that on July
19th he was doing repairs at 71a, High Street, Folkestone, premises
which were over Jack's Cafe. At about 10 a.m. Cole came to him with a
black handbag and asked him if he would take possession of it and put it
on one side or destroy it. He left the bag at home. He returned home
again that afternoon and put the bag straight on the fire.
Mr. Morris: No-one seems to have any idea of the contents of the bag. I
don't know what the submission is. You knew what was in it?#
Witness: I put them on the fire.
Mr. Morris: What do you mean by “them"?
Witness: The cigarettes in it.
How do you know they were cigarettes? - Cole said they were cigarettes.
Are you saying that Cole gave you a bag full of cigarettes and did not
say he was worried about them, and you burned them? - Yes, because I
heard between 10.30 and about 2.30 some rumours that there had been a
robbery. I heard that Cole was one of the men rumoured to have stolen
some goods.
Cole said that altogether he received 5,000 cigarettes from a
paratrooper. Another 500, which he could not sell, were given him. The
soldiers were regular customers, and came into the cafe afterwards. On
July 16th he lost a wallet, which had been stolen, containing £100 or
£120. He missed it from an attaché case in the office. He suspected the
soldiers, and he phoned the police. A police officer saw him in the
cafe. The cigarettes he had bought from the paratrooper were displayed
on the shelf, and the officer had to pass them. On July 18th D.C.
Huddart came about the wallet, and the cigarettes were still on view. On
July 19th D.C. Huddart came again and said there had been some
cigarettes stolen and he thought he had some. He (Cole) said he knew
nothing about them, and told him he could have a look round. At the time
he (Cole) did not associate it with the cigarettes he bought a fortnight
earlier. In a workshop D.C. Huddart found an American handgrip, which he
told him he had never seen before. There were also two Army greatcoats
he had never seen before.
Replying to Mr. Turner, Cole said a soldier named Barron brought the
cigarettes to his place. He had known him three or four months.
Mr. Turner: Had you discovered that Barron was a convicted thief? – No.
But when you lost your wallet you thought he or one of his companions
might have stolen it? – Yes.
How did you think they got their cigarettes? Did you think it was a
saving of cigarettes by dozens of soldiers in Folkestone? – It might
have been.
You were told they came from the N.A.A.F.I. Was that the only enquiry
you made? – I did not think the number would be unusual.
You seriously thought he might be able to get 5,000 cigarettes at the
N.A.A.F.I. price? – Yes.
Barton, giving evidence, said he gave McKenzie the impression that the
cigarettes he sold him were being sold by a wholesale man who wanted to
dispose of his business in London. The conversation was quite open. He
(Barton) borrowed a case from Mckenzie to take the cigarettes in, but
before he could return it he was arrested by the police. When McKenzie
asked him for the case he (Barton) said “It's hot; you'd better get
going”. Barton continued that he did not know any of the cigarettes were
stolen. He thought they were bankrupt stuff from London.
Moore said it was a temptation. He was short of money.
McKenzie, giving evidence, said Barton asked him if he could do with any
cigarettes, and he said he had about 20,000, stock of a pal of his
brother's who was selling up a cigarette shop in London. He
(defendant)had some knowledge of the brother. He (McKenzie) said he did
not want 20,000 cigarettes, but he could do with some. Barton said the
cigarettes were in Tontine Street and borrowed a case belonging to a
customer. Everything was done openly in the bar. Barton went away and
came back 15 minutes later. They went upstairs and he gave Barton £15
14/4. Perhaps he (defendant) would have made about £2 12/- out of it. He
never thought of the profit, but often fishermen came into his place and
asked for cigarettes. He had no financial worries.
Replying to Mr. Edie, McKenzie said that when he was told the cigarettes
had been stolen he called Barton “some names”. He decided to pack the
cigarettes up and get them off the premises, and sent them to a friend
in Alder Road. He had been licensee of the Harbour Hotel for about 12
months; he had no business experience.
McKenzie told Mr. Turner that he knew something of Barton's private
life, and he knew he was “a bit pushed”. They were both ex-Servicemen,
and he was interested in Barton.
The jury returned a verdict of Guilty on each charge, excepting in the
case of the 210 cigarettes relating to Cole.
D.C. Huddart said on October 9th, 1943, at Dover Magistrates' Court,
Cole was fined £30 and £5 costs for harbouring un-Customed goods. At the
same Court on February 5th, 1943, he was sentenced to three months' hard
labour for receiving clothing coupons. He was married, and had six
children. Barton had had casual employment in the fish-market area,
selling fish and newspapers. There was one conviction in 1930, and in
1940 he was bound over for stealing from a gas meter. Moore was a male
orderly for three years at Chartham Mental Hospital. He next entered
Etchinghill Institution, and since then he had had casual employment.
Routh had been a stoker employed at Folkestone Gas works. Since 1945 he
had been a waiter in his wife's employ. Nothing was known against him.
The Chairman said Cole would be sent to prison for four months. Barton
and Moore, who had acted as carriers, would each be bound over in the
sum of £5 for two years under the Probation Officer.
McKenzie and Routh were both men of good character, but they had been
found Guilty of receiving cigarettes knowing them to have been stolen.
The explanation must be that they knew cigarettes were in short supply,
and they wished to supply them to their customers. McKenzie and Routh
would be bound over in their own recognisances in the sum of £5 each.
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Folkestone Herald 10 January 1948.
Local News.
At Folkestone Transfer Sessions on Wednesday the licence of the Harbour
Hotel was transferred to Mr. Victor Albert Parks, formerly of Riverside
Gardens, Wembley.
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Folkestone Herald 3 April 1954.
Local News.
Sir Harry Mackeson has been asked to help persuade the Ministry of
Transport to give a decision about the provision for a car park in the
Harbour area. (Yesterday afternoon Sir Harry visited the area with
officials of the Ministry and British Railways.)
Delay in obtaining approval from the Ministry is delaying the completion
of the scheme for the redevelopment of the area, the Borough Engineer,
Mr. E. L. Allman, told members of Folkestone Chamber of Trade on Monday
evening.
Mr. Allman said in redeveloping the area they had not only to contend
with natural difficulties but man-made difficulties. In the area they
had no less than 13 public-houses, of which six were to remain. They had
agreed with the brewers that a site adjacent to the Harbour Hotel should
be made available to improve their premises. The existence of the
railway line to the Harbour, and trunk sewers, which had to remain,
added to the difficulties of planning the area. Then there were awkward
levels. It seemed that some type of housing was required and also a car
park. The Tram Road would be brought into Harbour Street to keep traffic
away from the railway arches, leaving a space free for pedestrians using
the arches. Seagate Street and a small length of Beach Street would be
disposed of, and Dover Street would be brought round in a bold curve
into the Tram Road above the arch. The Borough Engineer said he thought
the scheme for South Street would be pleasing, reproducing as far as
possible the conditions that existed before the shops were built 300 or
400 years ago.
The Royal George public house would remain in an altered form, but there
was difficulty about the site adjoining the Ark Cafe. The Ministry
seemed to think that a cafe would do well there. During the scheme they
had moved some 10,000 cubic yards of earth, quite an achievement on a
restricted site.
He said the units of accommodation being built would accommodate 120 -
130 people. The Lifeboat public house would remain but the corner from
North Street into the Durlocks would be improved by utilising a site
adjoining the public house.
Mr. G. Balfour asked whether the new development would blend with the
houses built before the war.
Mr. Allman said he was afraid the present-day restriction on money made
it impossible to follow the type of building in Radnor Street, but as
far as their limited resources allowed they would select tiles and
bricks to blend. Referring to Dover Street, he said there were still
some substandard houses there which should come down. In future, when
the street was widened, there would be no necessity to interfere with
the Quakers’ Meeting House, an old building which was set well back.
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Folkestone Gazette 5 December 1956.
Local News.
The owners of the Harbour Hotel have informed the Housing and Town
Planning Committee that they hope the extensions to the property would
be well under way by next summer.
The Committee resolved that the owners be informed that they were of the
opinion that every endeavour should be made to have the work completed
by the beginning of next summer and that in the meantime adequate
measures should be taken to clear up the site adjoining the premises.
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Folkestone Gazette 2 January 1957.
Local News.
Fremlins Ltd., owners of the Harbour Hotel, have informed Folkestone
Corporation that it is hoped to commence building operations in
connection with the rebuilding and development of the site early in
1957.
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Folkestone Herald 25 May 1957.
Local News.
Although Inspector Gray submitted that it was not a special occasion
within the meaning of the Act, Folkestone Magistrates on Tuesday granted
local licensees half-an-hour's extension on Sunday nights during the
month of July.
Mr. Norman Franks, representing the local Licensed Victuallers'
Association, said he was making an application which was in two parts.
He first asked that licenses for all the Folkestone houses, with the
exception of the Harbour Inn, should be extended as follows during the
Whitsun holiday period: Friday, June 7th, Saturday, June 8th, and
Whit-Monday, June 10th, from 10.30 p.m. until 11.30 p.m.; Whit Sunday,
June 9th, from 10 until 10.30 p.m. His further application was in
respect of an extension of licences, until 10.30 p.m., for the four
Sundays in July. Mr. Franks stated he made an application last year,
when the police superintendent objected, and quoted a number of cases.
He (Mr. Franks) then said it was a matter which could be left to the
discretion of the magistrates as to whether it could be termed a special
occasion or not. The magistrates said that if extensions for any special
period were applied for it would be given consideration. He was now
asking for the July extensions, because it was found to be an attraction
and a need last August, when extensions were granted, and in his
submission, what was good for August was good for July in Folkestone.
“We are not asking for extensions in June”, Mr. Franks said, “but in
July we shall probably be coming along asking for extensions in August.
I think it is a suitable occasion when you can exercise your discretion
in the licensees' favour”.
Inspector Gray told the Magistrates that he was not opposing the
application for the Whitsuntide extensions.
The Magistrates granted Mr. Franks's application in full.
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Folkestone Herald 13 June 1959.
Local News.
As draymen were delivering supplies to a public house in the harbour
area two men passed by and took a quart bottle of cider.
One of them, John Norman Alfred McGuinness, of 43, Millfield Estate,
Hawkinge, pleaded guilty at Folkestone Magistrates’ Court on Tuesday to
stealing the cider, worth 2/6, but the other man, Anthony Jesse Cleaver,
101, Oakley Park Drive, Leigh-on-Sea, Essex, did not surrender to his
bail, and a warrant was issued for his arrest.
McGuinness, who apologised to the court, was told by the Chairman (Ald.
N.O. Baker) “This was a silly thing to have done; pay £1 for your
stupidness”.
Chief Inspector L.A. Hadlow said at 4 p.m. on June 15th the licensee of
the Harbour Inn was taking in supplies from a brewer’s lorry. The cellar
flaps were open. One drayman was in the cellar, and the other was on top
handing down the supplies. He went away for a short time, and on his
return a quart bottle of cider was missing.
W.P.C. Smith and P.C. Ritchie searched the area and saw the defendants
in two boats on the boating pool. They signalled Cleaver to come to the
side and took a part empty bottle of cider from the boat. Both men had
been drinking but were not drunk. McGuinness said he did not know where
the bottle had come from. Later, McGuinness made a statement to W.P.C.
Smith in which he said they went past the Harbour Inn, where there was a
pile of stuff on the pavement. He took a bottle for a lark. He had the
money to pay for it. He offered to pay for it, and the licensee was
willing to accept.
“I am sorry I caused so much trouble”, McGuinness told the magistrates.
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Folkestone Herald 30 April 1960.
Obituary.
The landlord of the Harbour Inn, Folkestone, Mr. Victor Albert Parks,
died suddenly early last Friday morning, at the age of 47.
Mr. Parks was born at the Globe public house, Dover, where his father
was landlord. Shortly afterwards the family moved to the George and
Dragon, Temple Ewell, where his father is still licensee.
In 1947, Mr. and Mrs. Parks came to Folkestone from London, where the
former had been a sheet-metal worker. For the past thirteen years he had
been licensee of the Harbour Inn, where he proved an extremely popular
host.
Mr. Parks leaves a widow, a son and a daughter.
The funeral service was held at Folkestone Parish Church on Wednesday.
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Folkestone Gazette 20 September 1961/
Local News.
A huge pile of pennies worth £40 17/3 spilled into a blanket held by
patrons of the Harbour Inn public house, Folkestone, on Saturday. The
pile, which must be one of the largest ever built locally, was started
shortly before Christmas, and the full amount will be donated to the
British Empire Cancer Campaign. The average yield of such a collection
is in the region of £10, but owing to the generosity of the Harbour’s
customers, this pile far exceeded the hopes of the licensee, Mrs. V.
Parks. Headed by Major Jackson, of the Corner House Hotel, Folkestone,
Alan Penn, Brenda Ross and Isabel Macintosh, members of the “Dazzle”
company who were making their final appearance of the season at
Folkestone, demolished the pile. It is estimated that the pennies
weighed nearly two-and-a-half hundredweights. Mrs. Parks had intended to
build the column to an even greater height, but the counter on which it
stood was beginning to show signs of strain. The next pile will be given
to a children’s organisation.
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Folkestone Gazette 11 July 1962.
Local News.
How many pennies do you think are piled in this picture? Over 9,500, and
at the Harbour Inn on Friday, Mr. F. Bourne, headmaster of the Bruce
Porter Home, East Cliff, sent them sprawling. The pile amounted to £41
10/3, and this very useful sum is being used for hiring two caravans at
Winchelsea next month so that some of the Bruce Porter children can have
a holiday there. They started piling the column of pennies last
September.
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Folkestone Herald 2 April 1966.
Local News.
An18-year-old Folkestone youth, said to be perfectly quiet and
respectable, was fined £25 at Folkestone magistrates’ court on Tuesday
for assaulting a police officer in the execution of his duty and £5 for
a breach of the peace.
“We take a serious view of this assault on the police, and had there
been a vacancy at a detention centre, we would have sent you there”, the
chairman, Mr. F.J. Baden Fuller, told Keith Lomax, of Montacue Court,
Westbourne Gardens. “Your solicitor has said this was an impulse on your
part”, Mr. Baden Fuller added. “We never want to see you before this
court again”.
Mr. Norman Franks, prosecuting, said the charges arose out of an
incident at the Harbour Inn on the night of March 12. A disturbance
broke out at about 10.30 p.m. and P.C. Graham Newton was kicked and
punched by Lomax.
Mr. Victor Hood, the licensee, said he was called to the public bar
where an argument had broken out among a group of people. Lomax was in
an aggressive mood and his fists were clenched. When he asked him lo
leave Lomax struck him. The police were called. P.C. Newton arrived and
with the help of Mr. Hood tried to get Lomax out of the premises-. Other
people in the bar tried to pull them off, but they eventually managed to
get him out of the back door.
P.C. Newton told the court that at first Lomax refused to leave the
premises and continued to fight and struggle as he was escorted outside.
During the struggle, Lomax lashed out with his feet and kicked him on
the legs. Lomax went berserk and shouted “You dirty .... copper. Let go
of me”. The officer said that Lomax, with assistance from other people
in the bar, managed to struggle free. He heard someone shout “Run away”.
P.C. Newton said when he tried to leave the premises a man blocked the
door, and he had to lift him bodily before he could pass.
He was punched on the face when he told Lomax he would be arrested. Two
other police officers came to his assistance, and Lomax was eventually
taken to Folkestone police station where he was placed in a cell.
Lomax, who pleaded not guilty, denied kicking or punching the officer,
or using threatening language. He was not involved in the commotion but
agreed he struggled because the police officer had picked on the wrong
person. It was unlikely that he would have used offensive language
because his parents and his girlfriend were in the bar.
Mr. George Lomax said his son was not involved in the argument in any
way. It concerned his elder son, George, and another man.
Mr. John Medlicott, defending, said when Lomax's father and brother
became involved in the argument, he tried to pacify them. “He was quite
clearly suffering from a sense of grave injustice”, submitted Mr.
Medlicott.
The Court was told that Lomax had been on probation for two years ending
in August, 1962, and completed his probation satisfactorily.
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Folkestone Gazette 22 June 1966.
Local News.
Torrential rain in the early hours of Friday morning caused havoc in
Folkestone’s High Street. Thousands of gallons of surface water draining
from the main shopping centre burst through an 18in. water-sewage drain
under High Street flooding shops, public houses and other premises and
blocking the lower end of Tontine Street with tons of sand, sludge and
rubble. Gangs of Corporation workmen were on the scene by 6 a.m.
clearing drains and opening the road to traffic. Eye witnesses said that
at one time the road was flooded to a depth of two feet with a “sea of
yellow filth”. A Corporation spokesman said the flooding was caused when
the sewer pipe collapsed. “Drainage surface water, under pressure, must
have leaked from the pipe, washing out a cavity under the road”, he
said. “This caused the pipoe and the raod surface to collapse”. On
Monday night High Street was still closed to traffic as workmen laid new
pipes and filled in the cavities with weak concrete. “This is done to
prevent a recurrence and to reduce any risk of damage to the foundations
of nearby properties”, said the spokesman. In all, workmen cleared away
five lorry loads of sand and rubble – about 20 tons – from Tontine
Street.
At the Harbour Inn the licensee, Mr. V. Hood, said “This is the third
time this has happened to me in 13 months. It is about time the
Corporation did something about it. It would not be a big job.
Fortunately it was rainwater and not sewage that flooded us out,
otherwise all my stock would have had to be sent back”.
At the True Briton, licensee Mr. Steve Heron, said “This has happened
three four times to me, but this was the worst. It was absolutely
horrible. You could have sailed a boat outside. And it wasn’t just dirty
surface water; it was a really disgusting, filthy mess, a sea of yellow
filth. It’s about time the health authority did something about it”. Mr.
Heron was up and about at the time the flood started, and while his
cellar was flooded he managed to sluice most of the filth away with a
hosepipe as the water receded. “This sort of thing makes you lose
heart”, he said. “And it would cost so little to have it put right. For
a few pounds the local authority could dig a decent sized drain and then
let the water flow out into the harbour”.
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Folkestone Herald 15 May 1971.
Local News.
When 1,400 continentals visit Folkestone next Thursday the doors of
local pubs will be open to them all afternoon. On Tuesday local
Magistrates decided in favour of a second application to allow 17 pubs
to remain open especially for the visitors. They had vetoed a previous
application. The second made by publicans was amended to allow for a
half-hour break at 5.30 p.m. before their premises opened for the
evening session.
Mr. J. Medlicott, for the publicans, told the Magistrates that the
visitors were delegates attending a conference in Bruges. One of its
highlights was to be a visit to England. He referred to a letter
received by Folkestone Corporation from the British Tourist Authority
supporting the publicans' application. The visit – by Dutch, Swiss,
Belgians and Germans – was a special occasion, not just a shopping
expedition, said Mr. Medlicott. It had been arranged by a Bruges tourist
organisation which had particularly asked that pubs should be open in
the afternoon.
Police Inspector R. Sanders made no formal objection to the application
– but doubted whether the visit was a special occasion.
The Chairman of Folkestone Chamber of Trade, Mr. Alan Stephenson, said
later “The cross-Channel visitors' committee of this Chamber is very
pleased that this has been seen as a special occasion by the Justices.
When one is reminded that this extension is no more than happens in many
market towns every week of the year, it seems a fair request, especially
as Folkestone’s image abroad could be much influenced by the original
decision not to allow the pubs to open”.
The pubs which will stay open are; Jubilee, Ship, Oddfellows, Royal
George, London and Paris, True Briton, Harbour Inn, Princess Royal,
Clarendon, Brewery Tap, Earl Grey, Prince Albert, George, Globe, East
Kent Arms, Guildhall and Shakespeare.
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Folkestone Herald 4 October 1975.
Local News.
An almost continuous drinking session on Boxing Day landed 25-year-old
Patrick Daley, of Harbour Way, Folkestone, in jail. For he ended the day
fighting two policemen who were trying to take him to the police
station. He bit one of the officers and punched and kicked at the other,
it was alleged.
When he appeared before Canterbury Crown Court on Wednesday, the
Recorder, Mr. Thomas Eastham Q.C., told him “We are determined to do
what we can to ensure that police officers are not subjected to this
kind of assault”. Daley was then sentenced to three months’ imprisonment
for each of the assaults, to run concurrent, and a further three months,
consecutive, for breach of a two year probation order imposed by
Folkestone magistrates for possessing controlled drugs.
Mr. Daniel Robins, prosecuting, had told the court that Police
Constables Tingley and Venner were called to the Harbour Inn in
Folkestone on Boxing Day last year because of trouble there. “The
trouble was caused by the defendant who was drunk and the officers
attempted to arrest him”, he said “He was violent in resisting arrest
and threw punches and kicked at P.C. Tingley and also bit P.C. Venner.
Eventually, after a struggle he was placed in the back of the police car
where he continued to fight. At the police station he was still violent
and further struggling took place”. When he had calmed down later in the
evening, Daley apologised for his behaviour. He told the officers “All I
can say to you two guys is I am sorry”.
Mr. Ekled Tabachnik, defending, said Daley was living as a squatter with
a young married woman and her child. “It was Boxing Day and he had been
celebrating rather too well with his family. He was very drunk indeed”,
he said. Although Daley had pleaded Guilty to both assaults, he did not
accept that he had bitten one of the officers, said Mr. Tabachnik. He
had not set out to assault the policeman, but had hit and kicked out and
in the process committed the offences. Fortunately, he said, no serious
injuries had resulted.
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South Kent Gazette 2 September 1981.
Local News.
Plans to knock together two pubs in a £100,000 facelift have been
approved by Shepway District Council. Brewers Whitbread want to turn the
True Briton and Harbour pubs in Folkestone into one, with a small bar
and restaurant upstairs. Downstairs there will be a large open bar in
fisherman style serving locally caught seafood. The scheme's designers
have also got a pat on the back from Shepway’s design architect.
Both pubs are of different ages, architectural styles and
proportions. To combine the facades well was a “considerable
problem” but has been achieved with some success. Building work on
the pubs is expected to begin shortly and Whitbread hopes to have
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Folkestone Herald 12 February 1982.
Local News.
Work of joining neighbouring pubs together in a £120,000 conversion to
produce a building in keeping with the old harbour area of Folkestone
has almost been completed. The Harbour Crab and Oyster House, formerly
the Harbour Hotel and True Briton, in Harbour Street, reopens to the
public next Friday, February 19.
Old customers may recognise the exterior, now clad in dark
weatherboarding, but inside the design theme has captured the interior
of a harbour warehouse and ships' chandlers at the turn of the 19th
century.
Roy Pepperrell, Whitbread Fremlins design manager, who planned the
alterations, said “The idea was to provide something to match the area,
and it seems to have come through well. Folkestone's planners have
congratulated us on the design and the Chamber of Commerce has expressed
its appreciation of a development sympathetic to the old harbour area,
which they feel has increased tourist potential”.
Bar customers will be able to purchase seafood snacks, and in the Fish
Basket Grill, 54 customers can be seated for cooked fish meals with
seafood salads and steak dishes. Fish will be bought daily from local
catches, and lobsters crabs and oysters will be on the menu, with
draught ale from handpumps and popular wines.
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Folkestone Herald 9 March 1995.
Local News.
Two soldiers have been cleared of attacking a pub manager during a
Christmas Day incident in Folkestone.
Barry Greaves, manager of the Princess Royal, was hit a number of times
with a pool cue and ended up with a fractured jaw and a deep cut to the
head after being approached by two men with Scottish accents, Maidstone
Crown Court heard.
Miss Caroline Knight, prosecuting, said on Christmas Day, 1993, there
was a private party at the Harbour public house in Folkestone, to which
other publicans were invited. Paul Provan and David Boyes, both Argyll
and Sutherland Highlanders stationed at Folkestone, arrived. They were
not invited, but were allowed in because one of them was the boyfriend
of a member of staff and was a regular there. Mr. Greaves, who had been
invited, arrived during the evening, followed shortly afterwards by his
girlfriend, Barbara Day. But they had a slight disagreement and when the
time came for them to leave she walked out first, followed by Mr.
Greaves. From various people in the public house a picture was pieced
together, said Miss Knight. One person recalled letting the two into the
party, and in particular remembered Mr. Boyes, who was going out with a
member of the staff. A customer remembered them both going out and
coming back in with a pool cue. “This is a case where the defendants
were arrested shortly afterwards, and the question of identification may
be something to which you may have to pay close attention”, Miss Knight
told the jury.
In evidence, Mr. Greaves told the Court he was aware of a number of
people with Scottish accents in the pub that night. “Barbara arrived
about 20 minutes after me, and she wasn't very pleased with me because I
hadn't told her where I was going”, he said. “As we left she was still
not happy. We started walking back to the Princess Royal. Two people
came from out of the Harbour and said “What's going on here?”, and I
said “It's none of your business”. I didn't take any notice of who it
was. Barbara had run up the Old High Street. I caught her uo halfway. We
were both out of puff and we just sat down on a window ledge laughing
and got our breath back. Then two men came up the High Street and said
again “What's going on here?” Barbara was stood in front of me. I was
still sitting on the window ledge. At that point I didn't see them. We
were talking”, he said. “These two came up with Scottish accents and
said “What are you two up to?” One of them pushed Barbara out of the
way: one grabbed me by the throat while the other one hit me several
times with a billiard cue”.
The two, neither of whom gave evidence, were cleared of wounding
with intent and discharged
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Folkestone Herald 8 June 1995.
Local News.
A furious bride-to-be has had to call back all her wedding invitations
after a mix-up over the booking for the reception.
Bernice Scanlon went to the Harbour pub, Folkestone, at the end of April
to ask about a wedding reception for 70 people in August. She claims the
manager booked the date in the diary and told her to return a month
later to discuss a price and pay a deposit. But when she went back at
the end of May Miss Scanlon said she was told no booking had been made
and there was no way the pub's restaurant could seat 70. Miss Scanlon,
22, of Cheriton Road, Folkestone, who works as a barmaid at Jolson's
nightclub in Tontine Street, said “When I went the first time I asked if
they could do a sit-down meal for 70 people on August 19. The manager
put my name and phone number in the diary and said they would definitely
be able to do it. He told me to come back for a quote, but said it would
be fine and there would be no problem. He said it was going to be
refurbished and the place would be beautiful for me. But when I went
back I was told there was no way they could seat that many people in the
restaurant and they couldn't do the reception. I thought they were
joking, it was such a shock. I have sent out all the invitations and
paid for everything. It's only nine weeks until I get married and I've
got to start all over again. Surely they could have rung me to let me
know. I have complained to the brewery's head office about it but I
haven't heard anything yet”.
But Helen Waters, manageress of The Harbour, said that although the
reception had been entered in the diary no definite booking was made.
She said “It was a provisional booking and she was asked to come back in
a month to confirm it and sort out a price. I don't know why she sent
out her invitations before it had been confirmed. Andy, the manager,
made a note of the date and numbers in the diary. He told her vwe were
waiting for a refurbishment and she would need to come back and see us
at the end of May. We haven't got 70 seats in the restaurant, and still
won't have that many after the refurbishment has been done. She got very
angry when I told her it hadn't been booked, but she hadn't agreed a
price and had nothing in writing. I didn't know we had her phone number,
but if I had I would have phoned and told her we couldn't do it. I did
apologise to her when she came in”.
Bernice, whose fiancé Philip Yates, also 22, is serving in the Army at
Aldershot, has now booked a reception at The Carpenters, in The Stade,
Folkestone, and is sending out new invitations. She said “I've got to
get all the old invitations back and have them all redone. They cost me
£50, but now I'll buy cheap ones because i can't afford to spend so much
again. I'm very angry indeed”.
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Folkestone Herald 10 August 1995.
Local News.
Most landlords have welcomed the new Sunday opening hours. Many pubs
were packed with families celebrating the freedom to drink all afternoon
while others were deserted because customers were confused by the new
law. Drinkers who didn't know about the new tippling time were in for a
surprise at the Harbour Inn, Folkestone. Barman Ian Waddilove explained
“A lot of them wondered why we didn't ring last orders at ten to three.
The later closing time seemed to have gone down pretty well”.
However, Maureen Coles, landlady of the Morehall, Cheriton, blamed
confusion about the new law for locals staying away. “It was absolutely
dead”, she said. “Most people did not realise the new law had started
even though we put posters up”.
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Folkestone Herald 29 April 1999.
Canterbury Crown Court.
Two drunken Folkestone teenagers took advantage of a cracked pub window
to break in and steal more drink. The burglars later decided to wake up
a friend, but got the wrong flat and caused over £200 damage.
At Canterbury Crown Court on Monday, Stephen Murphy, 18, of Surrenden
Road, and Gavin Austen, 18, of Shaftesbury Avenue, were both ordered to
do 200 hours community service and each pay £200 to the pub landlady,
£113 to the flat occupant and £150 costs each. Both had admitted
burglary at The Harbour pub, in Harbour Street, Folkestone, and theft of
drink last December, and damaging a door and window.
Simon Sanford, prosecuting, said the accused had been drinking at a
Folkestone nightclub and were looking for a takeaway when they saw the
pub with its cracked rear window and broke in. They stole bottles of
spirits and lager and, meeting up with friends, went to find somewhere
secluded to drink. Later, separated from their friends, they went to
find another friend at Broadmead Road. They couldn't rouse him, but, in
their efforts, had broken into Susan Treadwell's home.
Adam Clegg, for both accused, submitted the offences were at the bottom
end of the scale and arose out of an evening's drinking when their
judgement was impaired. “It was impulsive and inept, and something they
profoundly regret”, he said. Murphy had found it a salutary experience
and regretted the upset caused to his family. “He is a well-adjusted
man, who is working”. Austen was unemployed but hoping to find work and
a council home for himself and his pregnant girlfriend. “They are far
removed from the usual burglar”, he said.
Judge Timothy Nash said he accepted it was a drunken escapade.
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From the Dover Express, 8 August, 2002.
Landlady 'Sara is mourned.
Pub boss dies in Spain
A MUCH-loved and well-known face in pubs in east Kent has died.
Sara Mison, the bubbly former landlady of the "Duke
Of York" on Snargate Street, Dover, and The "Harbour Inn",
Folkestone, passed away at her home in Spain on July 31. She was 69.
Sara was born and grew up in West Hythe but started out in the pub
game at the "Duke of York"
where she made many friends. She then moved onto the "Harbour Inn"
around 1970 where she spent 11 happy years until the time finally came
to call last orders in 1981.
After leaving the pub Sara who lived on Seagrave Road, Folkestone -
spent some time working at the Hotel Burstin in Folkestone but retired
to Spain in the late 1990s with her husband Peter.
Regulars and friends from the pubs where they served came to visit
them in the sunshine and the couple enjoyed a happy retirement. They
often came back to Folkestone to see family and friends. They lived in a
house near Alicante on the Costa Blanca until Sara's death.
She had two daughters Catherine and the late Moira, and a grandson,
Kyle, 15.
Sara will be cremated in Spain but a memorial service will be held
back in England when family and friends return.
One relative said: "She was well known. She was a real character. She
will be sorely missed."
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From the http://www.kentlive.news
10 November 2017.
A look inside the Harbour Inn as the new owners reveal seafood plans for the revamped Folkestone pub.
Mussels, fish and chips, oysters lobster and crab will all feature on
the fishy menu, alongside craft beers, ales and wines has finally announced an opening date for its new home store and
garden centre at Park Farm in Folkestone.
Above photo showing licensees Ben & Lucy Cuthbert while at the
"Pullman".
Proud new owners of a Folkestone pub have revealed their plans to revamp
the once tired boozer into a "real seafood destination".
The
"True Briton" in the harbour was snapped up by couple and local
entrepreneurs Ben and Lucy Cuthbert in September for just shy of
£500,000.
The pair, who opened Italian restaurant Lubens on Rendezvouz Street last
year, have run the "Pullman" on Church Street for almost four years and
said they were excited to add another pub to their portfolio.
Simply named
the "Harbour Inn," the Cuthberts are keen to transform the
venue - which had been on the market for five years - into a space that
people in Folkestone can "really enjoy".
Mr Cuthbert told Kent Live that the couple had always wanted to open
another pub and that when they has a viewing back in March, their hearts
were set on the space.
The "True Briton" in the harbour was snapped up by couple and local
entrepreneurs Ben and Lucy Cuthbert in September.
He said: “Our heart is in Folkestone, both of us really love it here -
the dynamic, the energy that’s in the town.
"We’ve been here for a long time now, and have always fancied doing
something in the harbour.
“Like with Lubens, we have always tried to take on spaces that have been
underutilised, places are sometime inaccessible for people in the town
and turn it into a space that people can really enjoy."
According to Mr Cuthbert, the plan is to split the space in two, with
one side acting as a seafood speciality restaurant and the other as a
pub, in a similar style to the "Pullman."
Hoping to open on the first weekend in December, mussels, fish and
chips, oysters lobster and crab will all feature on the fishy menu,
alongside lots of craft beers, ales and wines.
Fear not though, as Mr Cuthbert explained that he wanted to place to
stay true to its Kentish roots and not become an "exclusive" hideout.
Simply named the "Harbour Inn," the Cuthberts are keen to transform the
venue.
He said: "The idea is to really bring the place alive.
"It’s a great building, and getting our hands on it was a good
opportunity for us to grow our business and transform it into a space
where we can see people coming out having dinner, or having a drink
sitting by the fire.
"We hope it means that it will be a space that’s accessible again.
Mussels, fish and chips, oysters lobster and crab will all feature on
the fishy menu, alongside lots of craft beers, ales and wines.
"But we will be a lot more casual and we won’t forget the fact that
we’re a Kentish pub and create something that is quintessentially
Kentish, with lots of hops on the ceiling and more traditional things
decorating the place."
The new venture has seen the Cuthberts take on 15 extra staff, meaning
that they now employ over 60 people in the town.
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LICENSEE LIST
GOLDER Thomas circa 1860-Sept/62 dec'd
HERWIGG Henry Augustus 1863-64
POINTER George 1864-66
PAGE Charles 1866-80
ADAMS Josiah Lyon 1880-88
(age 48 in 1881)
JOHNSON John 1888-90
BOORN Fanny 1890
ARCH Joseph 1890-92
(age 37 in 1891)
BARKER Samuel 1892-95
WONTER Eleanor 1895-96
THOMSON David 1896-99
THOMSON John 1899-1900
ROBINSON Agnes 1900
LOVEGROVE Sarah 1900-01
HALL Thomas 1901-18
(age 36 in 1901)
MAINWOOD Ernest J 1918-27
OFFEN George Blaxland 1927-43
MARTIN Wilfred 1943-44
(Holding manager)
License suspended 1944-46
MCKENZIE John Lloyd M.B.E. 1946-47
RUFF Ernest 1947
(Holding manager)
PARKS Victor 1947-60
PARKS Violet (later BRICKELL) 1960-65
HOOD Victor 1965-70
ROUSE Gerald 1970-71
MISON Sara 1970-81
MISON Peter 1971-81
Renamed "Old
Harbour Crab And Oyster House."
PENN Hugh & COLLINS Robert 1989-90
EDWARDS Mark & MILES Barry 1990
EDWARDS Mark PILLING Timothy 1990-92
EDWARDS Mark & BRADSHAW Andrew 1992-93
EDWARDS Mark & TILLEY Michael 1993-94
EDWARDS Mark & O'SHEA Andrew
1994-96
LONG Thomas
& PROUT Nigel 1996-97
PROUT Nigel & UNDERWOOD Stephen 1997-98
PORTER William, JOHNSON Carole & UNDERWOOD Neil 1998-2001
PORTER William (also "Valiant
Sailor") & MCKENZIE David 2001
WILKINSON David 2001-02
RAMSEY Catherine, FRANCIS Roy & PALMER Conrad 2002
WILSON Alistair and Caroline 2002-03
SOTIRIOU Costas & HOW Paul 2003-04+
CUTHBERT Ben & Lucy
2011+
From the Post Office Directory 1862
From the Post Office Directory 1874
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From the Kelly's Directory 1899
From the Post Office Directory 1903
From the Kelly's Directory 1903
From the Post Office Directory 1913
From the Post Office Directory 1922
From the Post Office Directory 1938
From More Bastions of the Bar by Easdown and Rooney
Census
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