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1 Sandgate Road
Folkestone
1858 to 1882, the address was given as 19 Sandgate Street.

Was assumed to have once been known as the "White Horse"
but now that's been disproved, was named the "Folkestone Lugger" by 1808 and
in 1885 changed to
the "East Kent Arms." 1965 saw the name shortened to "Kent Arms."
This page is still to be updated.
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Folkestone Sessions Books 1765 – 1779 & 1792 - 1811.
General Sessions 31 May 1808.
Before Thomas Baker (Mayor), John Castle, Joseph Sladen and John
Bateman.
Thomas Dangerfield appeared and requested to have an ale licence granted
to Francis Poskett, which was agreed to.
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Folkestone Sessions Books 1765 – 1779 & 1792 - 1811.
General Sessions 28 June 1808.
Before Thomas Baker (Mayor), John Minter and James Bateman.
Thomas Dangerfield appeared and asked to have an ale licence granted to
Francis Poskett, which was agreed to.
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Kentish Gazette 29 May 1812.
Advertisement (Part).
To Brewers and others; To be sold by Auction, by Ayerst and Reeve, at
the Folkestone Arms, in Folkestone, on Monday, the 22nd day of June,
1812, at four o'clock in the afternoon:
Lot 1: All that freehold, well-accustomed public house and premises
called the Folkestone Lugger, with a large piece of ground adjoining,
situate in Cowgate Street, in the Town of Folkestone, in the occupation
of Francis Poskett, who has had notice to quit at Michaelmas next.
Note: Date is at Variance with More Bastions.
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Kent Herald 7 June 1832
Advertisement:
Free public house at Folkestone to be sold by auction, by David Godden, on the premises, on Wednesday, the 20th day of June, 1832, at one o'clock in the afternoon (unless previously disposed of by private contract, of which ample notice will be given,) a substantial brick-built messuage or tenement, and free public house, called the
"Folkestone Lugger," now in full trade, large yard, with carriage entrance from the road, good garden, coach-house, stabling, and other outbuildings, situate in Sandgate Road, in the town of Folkestone, now in the occupation of John Richardson.
The above premises are situated most eligibly for trade, at the entrance to the town of Folkestone, on the turnpike road from Sandgate and London. To view the premises apply to Mr. Richardson, the occupier.
For further particulars and to treat by private contract, apply at the office of Mr. Bond, Seagate Street, Folkestone. All letters to be post paid.
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Kent Herald 7 June 1832
Advertisement: Free public house at Folkestone to be sold by auction, by David Godden, on the premises, on Wednesday, the 20th day of June, 1832, at one o'clock in the afternoon (unless previously disposed of by private contract, of which ample notice will be given,) a substantial brick-built messuage or tenement, and free public house, called the
"Folkestone Lugger," now in full trade, large yard, with carriage entrance from the road, good garden, coach-house, stabling, and other outbuildings, situate in Sandgate Road, in the town of Folkestone, now in the occupation of John Richardson.
The above premises are situated most eligibly for trade, at the entrance to the town of Folkestone, on the turnpike road from Sandgate and London. To view the premises apply to Mr. Richardson, the occupier.
For further particulars and to treat by private contract, apply at the office of Mr. Bond, Seagate Street, Folkestone. All letters to be post paid.
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Kent Herald 5 October 1843
George Watts and John Miller, of the Preventive Service, have been brought
before the Magistrates at Folkestone, charged, the former with killing and
slaying Richard Spencer, and the latter with aiding and abetting him in the
same. After hearing the evidence against them, they were fully committed to take
their trial. The prisoners have been released on bail, themselves in £80 each,
and two sureties, each in £40; the prosecutor and witnesses were bound in their
own recognisances of £40 each to give evidence at the trial. This case, our
readers will recollect, has arisen out of the late fatal fight between George
Watts and Richard Spencer in which the latter was unfortunately killed.
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Kent Herald 21 December 1843
Assizes, Friday, Dec. 15th, before Mr. Justice Erskine
George Watts and John Miller were indicted for the manslaughter of Richard
Spencer, at Folkestone. The prisoners, who belonged to the Coast Blockade, and
had been out on bail, surrendered this afternoon. Sir Walter Riddle conducted
the prosecution, and the prisoners were defended by Mr. Bodkin and Mr. Deedes.
Horatio Brumidge, examined: I know Watts, Miller and Spencer, who all belong to
the Coast Blockade, and went with them to exercise at Sandgate, after which we
went to the "Lugger" public house at Folkestone, where we had some beer, and
afterwards to the "Fleur de Lis," where we had more beer. While we were there
Watts took up Spencer’s musket and fired it off out of the window. Spencer told
him he was of a mind to strike him, and pulled off his coat, but Miller parted
them. When we left the house, on going across a field, Miller said “Well, old
George, we will have it out,” and stripped to fight. Two gentlemen came up, one
of whom was Earl Radnor, who said he would have no fighting on his land. Miller
asked him who he was, and on his lordship telling him, Miller asked him to let
them have five minutes, but his lordship refused, and Miller, Watts and Spencer
walked away, the two latter arm in arm. When they got to the end of the field
Watts told Spencer to let go his arm, and then tore the shirt of Spencer. They
then fought several rounds, during which Watts fell on Spencer, and Miller
picked the men up several times. Miller tried to part them. After the fight
Spencer appeared to be very ill and wished to lie down, but he was taken home to
the house of Miller, and when he next saw him he was dead.
Cross-examined by Mr. Bodkin: I had not more than a pint of beer, but was not
drunk. Watts and Spencer were drunk. Spencer did not strike the first blow. When
they fell, Watts fell with his knees on deceased, but got off directly.
By Mr. Deedes: I have known Miller, Watts and Spencer twelve months. When they
went to exercise they were good friends.
Sarah Austen, examined: I keep the "Fleur de Lis," at Folkestone, and remember
deceased and the prisoners coming to the house, when they appeared very
friendly. I heard a gun go off, and on going into the room they were quarrelling
and talked about fighting.
Cross-examined: Watts said he would have no fighting, and deceased said “I know
I am as good a man as thee, George.” Watts went to the window and said he would
shake hands with all of them. Miller also said he would not have any fighting.
Jas. Jinkings, examined: I saw the parties in the field stripped to fight, and
Mr. Gourd, Earl Radnor’s steward, and myself, took Spencer and Watts into
custody, but they were liberated on Miller promising that they should not fight.
Soon after we saw Watts and deceased fighting. They fell several times, but
Spencer was not always undermost. In one round Watts fell on Spencer, and in the
last the latter received a severe blow on his face, and was struck by Watts
while he was on the ground.
Cross-examined: I did not see the knees of Watts on the deceased, neither did
Watts appear to wish to fight. They were both very drunk. I have known the
prisoners some considerable time, and believe them to be quiet and well-behaved
men.
Sylvester Eastes, examined: I am a surgeon, residing at Folkestone. On the 15th
of September Miller called on me and said that Spencer was in great pain from a
blow, and I sent him some medicine. Brumidge came next morning at six o’clock,
and said Spencer was worse, when I went to see him, and he complained of a pain
in the lower part of his belly, and had considerable fever. I prescribed for
him, and saw him again at one o’clock, when he was much worse, and on going
again at half past five I found him dead. I opened the body by order of the
Coroner, and found one small bowel had burst, and violent inflammation had
ensued. There was some small ulceration on the bowel, but not sufficient to
cause it to burst. It must have been caused by some violent blow or fall. There
was also a contusion on the left eye. I considered the appearance of deceased to
be that of a healthy man.
Cross-examined: I have been in practice on my own account about three years and
a half, and attend, professionally, a considerable number of the blockade men.
They pay me one shilling a month for attendance and medicine on each family. I
judged by the symptoms that the bowel was burst before the body was opened.
Mr. Bodkin and Mr. Deedes addressed the jury for the prisoners, and called
Robert Sinclair, Thomas Hawkins, and Richard Hart, all of whom had known the
prisoners some time, and spoke of them as very quiet and humane men.
His Lordship summed up the evidence at great length.
Watts, guilty; sentence postponed. Miller, acquitted.
Sir Walter Riddle begged to recommend Watts to the mercy of the court.
George Watts, who was convicted on Friday of manslaughter, was brought up for
judgement, and His Lordship, after observing that as he did not think it
appeared from the evidence that he had wilfully caused the death of his comrade,
but that in the fight between them he had accidentally given him the mortal
injury, he should not pass upon him a severe sentence. He then sentenced him to
be confined for one month in Maidstone gaol.
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Maidstone Gazette 12 August 1845.
At a Special and Petty Sessions held at the Town Hall on Tuesday
last, before J. Bateman Esq., Mayor, D. Major and W. Major Esqs.,
and Capt. Sherren, the following alehouse licenses were transferred,
viz: from Joseph Earl, of the "Folkestone Lugger," to Richard Fowle;
from said Richard Fowle, of the "British Lion," to Robert Burvill;
from William Harrison, of the "Marquis of Granby," to James Hall; from
said James Hall, of the "Ship," to John Harrison; from James Collard,
of the "King's Arms" to William Smith.
Note: Transfers of Folkestone Lugger, British Lion, Marquis of
Granby are earlier than previously known. Neither licensee for Ship
listed in More Bastions.
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Kent Herald 14 August 1845
At a special petty sessions held at the town hall in this town, before J.
Bateman Esq., Mayor, D. Major and W. Major Esqs., and Capt. Sherren, the
following alehouse licenses were transferred, viz., from Joseph Earle, of the
Folkestone Lugger, to Richard Fowle; from said Richard Fowle, of the British
Lion, to Robert Burvill; from William Harrison, of the Marquis of Granby, to
James Hall; from the said James Hall, of the Ship, to John Harrison; from James
Collard, of the King’s Arms, to William Smith.
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Maidstone Gazette 7 August 1849
Petty Sessions, Tuesday; Before C. Golder Esq., Mayor, W. Major and
J. Bateman Esqs.
Richard Fowle, of this town, publican, appeared to answer the
information of John Edward Laeon, Controller of Customs, for
keeping disorderly persons in and about his house, against the tenor
of his license. Mr. Delasaux appeared on behalf of defendant. The
case was dismissed, there being an error in the information.
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Kent Herald 9 August 1849
Petty Sessions: Richard Fowle, of this town, publican, appeared to answer the
information of John Edmund Lacon, Conptroller of Customs, for keeping disorderly
persons in and about his premises, against the tenor of his license. Case
dismissed, there being an error in the information.
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Dover Chronicle 15 December 1849
Sudden death.
An elderly woman, named Richardson, many years landlady of the
"Folkestone Lugger," Sandgate Road, was picked up in the street and
taken to her miserable residence at the back of the "Folkestone
Cutter," where she was found dead the next day.
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South Eastern Gazette 8 October 1861.
Birth: On the 29th ult., at the "North Foreland Inn," Sandgate Road,
Folkestone, the wife of Mr. Taylor, of a daughter.
Note: This is incorrect and refers to the Folkestone Lugger.
Confirmed by birth record on Ancestry. Although to be fair, she may
have been at the "North
Foreland" when birth took place.
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Folkestone Chronicle 5 December 1863
Extract from a meeting of the Folkestone Corporation on
Wednesday, when the Corporation were discussing the widening of
Sandgate Road, which would involve the taking down of some property:
Mr. Hoad thought the line ought to be struck from the east end of
the Lugger, as no doubt the Lugger would be rebuilt one day, the
line then would be an improved one, and the street widened by about
2 feet.
Mr. Tite did not think it probable that Mr. Ash would rebuild the
Lugger very soon, seeing that he was now laying out a £1,000 on it.
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Folkestone Chronicle 29 October 1864.
Petty Sessions, Thursday, October 27th: Before Capt. Kennicott
R.N. and James Tolputt Esq.
Ann Crawley, a single woman, was brought up on remand charged
with stealing 2 pairs of drawers, 1 shift, 3 table napkins, 7
chemises, 1 tablecloth, embossed dimity petticoat, 1 book "The
Caxtons", 1 shirt, 2 nightgowns marked R.M.R., 1 petticoat, 1
tablecloth with the mark Cass erased R.M.R. marked in ink over it. A
married woman, named Elizabeth Jones, residing in Dover Street, was
then put in the dock, charged with receiving the same.
Nathaniel Cass, sworn, deposed he was at present residing at 1,
Radnor Villas; he missed some property lately; on Monday last week
witness, in consequence of something he had heard, went to the
prisoner Jones with Mr. Hammon, a chemist; witness asked her if she
had any of his property; she replied first that she had none;
witness then said he had heard that she had received property of
his; she began to prevaricate, and then left the house and went to
the tavern opposite, and brought the things now produced; she was in
there but a few minutes, and when she came out she had her apron
full of the things stolen. When she came into the house she said
"Here are a part of the things"; she then made some remark about the
things being in the water, and then she went and fetched some other
things. Witness identified the articles produced as those given up
by the prisoner Jones; knew the things as being his through being of
foreign texture, having been manufactured at Liege, and corresponded
with other articles now in his possession; she then said she would
go and fetch another parcel; she had previously said she had no more
things. A few days afterwards witness, with Mr. Hammon and Mr. Cass
went to the prisoner Jones's house again.
Mr. Richard Hammon, chemist, was then sworn, and deposed that on
Monday afternoon week he, with the prosecutor, went to Mr. Hart, the
pawnbroker, and on enquiry was informed that some of the missing
things had been pawned there by the prisoner Jones, but had been
redeemed; they then went to prisoner Jones's house; witness told her
that the gentleman with him had lost some property, and he knew it
had been in her possession as Mr. Hart, the pawnbroker, had given
him the information; witness mentioned the names of a few of the
missing articles, and the prisoner denied ever having had them;
witness told her it was useless to deny it, and named the day on
which she had pawned and redeemed them. "Well then," the prisoner
said, "If I had them I have sold them to Mrs. Court on the opposite
side of the street. I had no idea they were stolen, or I should not
have sold them. I will go across and endeavour to get them again."
She left the house and returned in about seven or eight minutes;
witness saw her come out of Mrs. Court's, the Folkestone Cutter,
with her apron full of the things; when she came in she said "I am
very glad I have got some of the things, and in a few minutes I
shall have the other things Mrs. Court had sent to some woman to
have altered." In about five minutes afterwards she went across to
Mrs. Court's again, and was away about three minutes, and returned
with some more things; she was then asked if she had anything else,
and she replied that she had not got anything more from the other
prisoner, Crawley. Witness then went to Mr. Cass's house and saw the
prisoner Crawley, who told him she had given Mrs. Jones other
things. Witness then went to Mrs. Jones again, who strongly denied
that Crawley had given her anything else. Witness read over the
different articles that Crawley had said she had taken and given to
her; she denied having one of them. Witness then told her that if
the things were not forthcoming he should put the matter in the
hands of the police; she then said she should go over to Mrs. Rigden
at the Music Hall, Sandgate, and get the things. On the following
Tuesday she called upon witness at his house and said she was going
to Sandgate to endeavour to get the things, alluding to list of
articles read over to her the day before; she told witness it would
cost a shilling to ride to Sandgate and back, and six shillings to
get the things; witness gave her the 6s., and about twelve she
returned with a parcel, which she said she had obtained from Mrs.
Rigden; witness opened the parcel, and after examining the things
said these were not all the things that Crawley had mentioned, or
what he expected when he gave her the 6s. The articles returned were
some of them which were in the list witness read over to the
prisoner. The prisoner then said "You may put the matter in the
hands of the police if you like. I am clear of everything that has
been stolen." Witness then took the things to 1 Radnor Villas.
Witness then said he had omitted to name that prisoner gave him a
pawn ticket for a shirt, pawned at Mr. Hart's for 2s. 6d., which he
redeemed, and found it belonged to Mr. Cass; prisoner also gave him
the book, which she said that Crawley had lent her to read, and as
soon as she was done with it she intended to return it.
The prisoner Jones declined to ask the witness any questions.
Mr. Nathaniel Cass re-examined: He remembered receiving a bundle
of things from Mr. Hammon on last Tuesday week, which he said he had
received from Mrs. Jones; witness opened the bundle, and found the
contents were his property; the articles produced are worth five
pounds.
Mr. Philip Hart was then sworn in the Jewish form, and deposed
that he was a pawnbroker residing in High Street; knew the prisoner
Jones; on Monday week saw Mr. Hammon and Mr. Cass; witness informed
them that the defendant Jones pledged some ladies' underclothing of
foreign manufacture on the 12th September for 10s., and received
them on the 30th September; witness did not make entry of who
redeemed the articles; a shirt was pledged in the name of Jones,
which Mr. Hammon redeemed.
Mrs. Catherine Court, wife of Mr. Richard Court, residing in
Dover Street, and who kept the
Folkestone Lugger (sic), knew the
prisoner Jones; she resided nearly opposite to witness; remembered
buying some things from her almost three weeks ago; prisoner came to
witness and said she had some articles which belonged to a titled
lady, who was dead; the things were given to the lady's maid and she
wished to dispose of them; she brought the things in a newspaper;
there were 6 chemises, 1 shirt, 1 petticoat, 3 table napkins and 1
tablecloth; she also brought another petticoat and three pair of
drawers which she did not purchase; witness gave 26s. for them;
prisoner came to her last Monday week, about 2 o'clock, and said she
wanted those things back again, and she would return the money; she
said Mr. Hammon and a gentleman had called for the things which she
had sold her; she said "Here's a pretty start." Witness gave the
things up immediately that were at home, and sent for the other
things which were being altered; she did not give up any money;
witness returned all the things except the shirt, which she said did
not belong to the same person; prisoner gave her a paper, promising
to pay 2s. a week till it was returned.
Mr. Hammon, recalled: On Monday afternoon week witness went to
Mr. Cass' house and saw Crawley, and told her that Mr. Cass had lost
a good many things, and he thought she had stolen them. Prisoner
denied it. She said "I assure you I could not have stolen them as
they were under lock and key." Witness said it was no use denying it
as, pointing to a parcel in the room, "There is a lot of things just
brought from Mrs. Jones." She then said "I did steal them, and took
them to Mrs. Jones, who told me she had pawned them at Mr. Hart's."
She said the first lot she took Mrs. Jones pledged for 10s., and
gave her the money, and she returned her a shilling for her trouble.
She admitted taking things on three different occasions. The first
time she had 10s., the second time 7s., and the third time 2s. 6d.
She gave her a sixpence. It was a shirt of Mr. Cass' that Mrs. Jones
pledged for 2s. 6d.
This completed the case, and the prisoner Ann Crawley was duly
charged with stealing from her master. She said she had nothing to
say. She was then committed for trial at the next Quarter Sessions
for the borough.
The prisoner Jones was then charged with feloniously receiving
from the prisoner Crawley the goods named in the charge.
Mrs. Jones, having been cautioned, said that the prisoner Crawley
came to her one day and said "Would you like to earn sixpence?", and
gave her a parcel. She took the parcel to Mr. Hart and pledged it
for 10s., and received 6d. remuneration for her services. She never
opened them till they were opened in the presence of Mr. Hart, nor
knew what they contained. Crawley came to Jones a few days
afterwards and asked her to redeem the goods. She said they were
bequeathed to a lady's maid by her deceased mistress, but as the
person was leaving Folkestone the money would be of more service
than the goods. I redeemed them and sold them to Mrs. Court. I had
several times said to Crawley "Are these things right?" She always
said "Yes, do you think I would get myself in trouble?" When the
second parcel was brought she repeated the question to Crawley, and
asked if she (Jones) knew the party. She said "No, but it is their
own property." When the shirt was brought, Crawley told Jones that
the party was in difficulties, but it would be wanted next week.
The prisoner Jones was then formally committed to take her trial
at the next Quarter Sessions.
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Folkestone Express 9 November 1878.
Tuesday, November 5th: Before The Mayor, General Armstrong, J. Kelcey
and R.W. Boarer Esqs.
John Lyon and Charles Pritchett were charged with being drunk and
disorderly in the Sandgate Road on Monday.
Superintendent Wilshere said he was sent for about one o'clock to eject
the two prisoners from the Lugger Inn. They were drunk. When they got
outside they commenced to shout, and therefore were taken into custody.
They were both discharged with a caution.
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Folkestone Chronicle 22 August 1885.
Editorial.
Mr. Pledge will be one of the retiring members of the Corporation next
November, but such bold outspoken remarks as he has made this week
respecting claims made on the Corporation for compensation deserve to be
appreciated by his constituents, who should send him back to repeat his
protest whenever necessary. The Lugger, a hostelry in the Sandgate Road,
is about to be pulled down, and another house will be built on the site.
The owners are compelled to set back, giving up about sixty feet, which,
most likely, if there were no law to compel them to set back, they would
themselves do to improve the property. For this little slice of land the
owners coolly ask £300. This called forth the fury of Mr. Pledge, who
complained of the Corporation being looked upon as an inexhaustible
milch cow by those who have property coming within the prescribed line.
The Corporation, we are glad to say, having bought their experience, has
put its foot down, and have declined to treat on such terms, a
resolution they are resolved to adhere to. If they remain firm, and snap
their fingers at the threats of lawyers and agents, they will be setting
an example which must have a salutary effect on others who have land to
sell.
In another case a builder offered a slip of land in the Black Bull Road
for exactly the same sum he gave for it. A fairer offer could not have
been made or expected. Amongst a small minority of the Council, however,
a disposition was evinced to haggle and to wait, the idea being
expressed that if they tarried until the owner built upon his land, he
would be glad enough to give it up for nothing. Why should he be
expected to do so, more than the owner of property in Sandgate Road?
When a ratepayer makes a fair offer like this, we think it should
receive liberal consideration and that no invidious distinction should
be drawn between individuals, localities, or the prestige of position.
Mr. Holden at once seized the opportunity to do a just act, which was
seconded by Mr. Penfold, and urged that the £20 asked, and which was
recommended by the General Purposes Committee, should be given. We are
pleased to learn that the Corporation accepted the proposal. In both
cases the Corporation on Wednesday acted in a spirit of justice, and so
long as they do this, and rise above all personal considerations, they
will command, as they deserve to do, the confidence of the town.
Corporation Meeting Extract.
A letter was read from Messrs. Ash and Co., offering to sell the land
required by the Corporation, should they set back, for £300.
Ald. Sherwood said they could not entertain the offer of that sum, as it
was a great deal too much.
Mr. Willis thought it would be advisable to pass a resolution stating
that whilst they were willing to negotiate, they could not give anything
like that price. He would move that as a resolution.
Ald. Hoad seconded. He thought it would be ridiculous for them to
entertain anything like the offer of the land for £5 a foot, as looked
upon in any light it was not worth anything like that.
Mr. Pledge said he should advise them to let Messrs. Ash pull down the
premises before in any way entertaining that offer. Indeed, considering
the improvement that would be made to the property, he thought, if
anything, they should come to them for compensation. It was, to him, so
absurd to see the effort to pitch upon the Corporation for compensation
whenever they can, and to dip into their pockets. He would suggest that
they should at once put their foot down and make an offer of £50, which
was quite as much as the land was worth. If it came into their hands it
was not worth twopence to the town. It was a little nook, or corner,
which its owners would be glad to remove for the benefit of the
property.
The Mayor said there had not been, as Mr. Pledge seemed to suggest, any
beating about the bush. In fact, if he would support Mr. Willis's
motion, Mr. Pledge's views on the question would be met with.
Mr. Willis's motion was then put and carried.
Ald. Sherwood asked whether they could not now make the offer of £50.
This sum coincided with his estimate of what it was worth.
Ald. Hoad said that, having passed the resolution, they could hardly
re-open the question.
Mr. Wedderburn believed the new tenant would take possession in a few
weeks, so Messrs. Ash would wish to commence the alterations. It was
desirable for both parties that the matter should be settled as speedily
as possible.
Mr. Pledge said he believed he had suggested a fair price. If there was
any member of the Council who thought that more should be offered, let
him now speak out.
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Folkestone Express 22 August 1885.
Folkestone Chronicle 22 August 1885
Editorial.
Mr. Pledge will be one of the retiring members of the Corporation next
November, but such bold outspoken remarks as he has made this week
respecting claims made on the Corporation for compensation deserve to be
appreciated by his constituents, who should send him back to repeat his
protest whenever necessary. The Lugger, a hostelry in the Sandgate Road,
is about to be pulled down, and another house will be built on the site.
The owners are compelled to set back, giving up about sixty feet, which,
most likely, if there were no law to compel them to set back, they would
themselves do to improve the property. For this little slice of land the
owners coolly ask £300. This called forth the fury of Mr. Pledge, who
complained of the Corporation being looked upon as an inexhaustible
milch cow by those who have property coming within the prescribed line.
The Corporation, we are glad to say, having bought their experience, has
put its foot down, and have declined to treat on such terms, a
resolution they are resolved to adhere to. If they remain firm, and snap
their fingers at the threats of lawyers and agents, they will be setting
an example which must have a salutary effect on others who have land to
sell.
In another case a builder offered a slip of land in the Black Bull Road
for exactly the same sum he gave for it. A fairer offer could not have
been made or expected. Amongst a small minority of the Council, however,
a disposition was evinced to haggle and to wait, the idea being
expressed that if they tarried until the owner built upon his land, he
would be glad enough to give it up for nothing. Why should he be
expected to do so, more than the owner of property in Sandgate Road?
When a ratepayer makes a fair offer like this, we think it should
receive liberal consideration and that no invidious distinction should
be drawn between individuals, localities, or the prestige of position.
Mr. Holden at once seized the opportunity to do a just act, which was
seconded by Mr. Penfold, and urged that the £20 asked, and which was
recommended by the General Purposes Committee, should be given. We are
pleased to learn that the Corporation accepted the proposal. In both
cases the Corporation on Wednesday acted in a spirit of justice, and so
long as they do this, and rise above all personal considerations, they
will command, as they deserve to do, the confidence of the town.
Corporation Meeting Extract.
A letter was read from Messrs. Ash, owners of the Lugger Inn, received
since the last meeting, in which the writers stated that they were about
to make considerable alteration in the premises, and thought it would be
an excellent opportunity for the Corporation to get the house set back
in a line with the adjoining property, as no doubt as it at present
stood it was a great eyesore. If the Corporation was content to give
them £300, they would be willing to set back and put up a new front to
the building. (Laughter)
The Mayor thought they could not for a moment entertain the offer of
Messrs. Ash.
Councillor Willis said it seemed to him that the new front was
conditional on their giving that sum of money. He did not know, as an
East Ward member, that he ought to say much about it. But he would not
close up all negotiations, because they might revert to it at some time
and make a counter-offer – certainly not so high as that asked.
Councillor Holden agreed that the Corporation could not accept that
offer.
Alderman Sherwood said it was a question whether they could build on the
same foundations again. They would be overlapping both Mr. Simpson and
the house below. Even if they could build on the old foundation, its
condition would not allow them to put a heavy building on top of it.
There was no doubt it was desirable to set the property back to the
line, but not at such a cost as that. If a fair and reasonable sum was
asked he should suggest its being accepted, but the price asked was out
of all question. It was at the rate of £5 per square foot. Land in
Sandgate Road was valuable no doubt, but he had not heard of its having
fetched that price yet. He thought the matter might be referred to the
General Purposes Committee, and for that Committee to take the matter up
when it was desirable to do so.
Councillor Willis said what he meant was that they should write a letter
to Messrs. Ash, stating that however desirable it would be to carry out
the improvement, those terms were far higher than they could entertain.
He would leave it open to them to make another offer. He would move to
that effect.
Alderman Hoad thought it was a fair and reasonable resolution. He did
not think they ought to pay anything like £5 a foot, but if a letter of
that sort was written to them, it would show the folly of asking so
much. He would second the resolution.
Councillor Pledge supposed if the property was pulled down they could
not build out to the line where they were now, but would have to conform
to the bye-laws. They asked the Corporation to buy it. Why didn't they
ask for some little compensation, and not ask the town to buy it? It
must eventually fall into their hands, and therefore it seemed to him
absurd to ask £300 for it. Everybody who had got any building going on
pitched on the poor Corporation and wanted to get their hands into the
Corporation purse. It was getting to such a pitch that it was time it
was knocked on the head. He should like to have seen the Corporation
offer them £50, and intimate that it would be final. If it came into
their hands it was not worth twopence. There was a little nook there,
but their own common sense would not allow them to build out and leave
it as it is now.
The resolution was then put and carried.
Subsequently Alderman Sherwood suggested that an offer of £50 should be
made, but it was not deemed advisable to do anything further at that
moment.
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Folkestone News 24 October 1885.
Wednesday, October 21st: Before Capt. Carter, J. Fitness and J. Holden
Esqs.
The licence of the Lugger was transferred from Mr. Taylor to Mr. J. P.
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LICENSEE LIST
POSKETT Frances 1808-15+

RICHARDSON John 1815-23
 
COURT Thomas 1825-28+
 
RICHARDSON John 1823-39+
  
EARL Joseph 1837-Aug/45
  
FOWLE Richard Aug/1845-60 (age 46 in 1851 )
   
TAYLOR George Frederick 1860-85 (age 27 in 1861 )
   
SCOTT John Paul Oct/1885+

Renamed "East Kent Arms"
From the Pigot's Directory 1823
From the Pigot's Directory 1828-29
From the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34
From the Pigot's Directory 1839
From the Pigot's Directory 1840
From Bagshaw Directory 1847
From Melville's Directory 1858
From the Post Office Directory 1862
From the Post Office Directory 1874
From the Post Office Directory 1882
From More Bastions of the Bar by Easdown and Rooney
South Eastern Gazette
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