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50 Strand
Lower Walmer
https://whatpub.com/lord-nelson
Above photograph 1926. |
Above photo 1952.
Creative Commons Licence. |
Thompson & Son ledger.
Creative Commons Licence. |
Above photographs by Tony Wells, 1st January 2011. |
 
Coloured photographs by Paul Skelton 2008.
Lord Nelson sign above, July 1993.
Above with thanks from Brian Curtis
www.innsignsociety.com
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From the East Kent Mercury 8 December 2011
Last orders by Steve Glover and Michael Rogers.
The "Lord Nelson" gained its name in 1801, at a time when Deal and Walmer
were teaming with military personnel. The local barracks were full to the
brim and makeshift housing was swiftly erected along The Strand (then known
as Walmer Road) as overflow accommodation for the servicemen. Small wooden
dwellings, often housing their families, were painted navy blue, thus
earning the area the nickname of ‘Bluetown'. Regrettably, the "Lord Nelson"
lost its Victorian interior some years ago after over-zealous modernisation.
Older locals remember it as a bustling, place where Royal Marines and locals
mixed alike. Now it stands empty and forlorn, having closed its doors on
February 22, 2011.
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Incorporating "Trafalgars restaurant", the "Lord Nelson" is situated in
Lower Walmer now on the Strand and could be the oldest pub in Walmer,
although further research has found that perhaps the "True
Briton" is. The Strand
was previously called the Walmer Road but was renamed in the 1840s. I am
also informed that the Strand has also been referred to as the High Road,
and York Road, just behind it as Back Road.
The pub was named the "Lord Nelson" some time after a visit by Horatio
Nelson in
1801.
A serious fire gutted the building in 1870 but it was rebuilt to the
house we see today.
A gentleman called John recently sent me the above picture, which may or
may not be the original "Lord Nelson" before the rebuild after the 1870
fire. If anyone has any thoughts on this please email.
From an email received 18 December 2010.
I am Trevor Hatton, I did the pix for Steve Glover and Michael
Rogers' book 'the old pubs of Deal and Walmer'. We looked at that 1870??
picture, it is not of Walmer. In fact it looks more like somewhere in
France or Belgium, notwithstanding the English sign.
Trev. |
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Kentish Gazette, 29 November 1803.
On Thursday died Mr. Simmons, wife of Mr. T. Simmons, of the "Lord
Nelson" public-house, at Walmer, who has left a numerous family to
lament' the loss of a good parent.
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Kentish Gazette, 11 February, 1806.
DEAL and WALMER.
To be SOLD by PRIVATE CONTRACT.
A Good, substantial, and convenient BREW-HOUSE., with the
Store-houses, Yard and Appurtenances. in the Parish of WALMER late
in the occupation of Mr. George Quested: A capital Inn, called the
"Three King's Inn," with sundry Stables, a good Billiard Room, and
Yards and Appurtenances, in the town of DEAL, now in the occupation
of Mr. Thomas Cross.
A Freehold Public House, in Deal, called the "Black Bull," now in
the occupation of Mr. Thomas Jelly.
Another Public House, in Deal, called the "Duke’s Head," now in the
occupation of Mr. John Carlton.
Another Public House, in Deal, called the "Three Kings Tap," now in
the occupation of Mr. Robert Simmons.
Another Public House, in Walmer, called the "Union Flag," now in the
occupation of Mr. Francis Simmons.
Another Public House, in Walmer, called the "Lord Nelson," now in
the occupation of Mr. Thomas Simmons.
A convenient Dwelling-House, in Broad-street, in Deal, late in the
occupation of Mr. Quested, and now of Mr. Ladd.
Another
Dwelling-House in Deal, near the old Market-place, late the
"Fleur-de-Lis" Public House.
For particulars apply at the office of Mr. May, in Deal.
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From the Kentish Gazette, 27 February 1810.
DEATH.
Feb 25, Mrs. Simmons, wife of Mr. Thomas Bunce Simmons, of the "Lord
Nelson" public-house, in Walmer Roads.
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From the Kentish Gazette, 22 March 1842.
A few days ago a fatal accident occurred in the Downs to a youth named
Thomas Carter, a native of Yarmouth. It appears that the ill-fated lad
had been furling the sails, and while making his way down, fell from the
cross-trees to the deck. On examination, the skull was found extensively
fractured, the right shoulder dislocated, and left thigh broken. The
unfortunate Bufferer lingered in the greatest agony for two days before
death granted him relief. An inquest has been held on the body before R.
J. Emmerson, Esq., coroner for Sandwich, at the "Lord Nelson," Walmer
Road.
Verdict, "Accidental Death."
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From the Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports General
Advertiser, Saturday 7 November, 1846. Price 5d.
DEATH
October 29th, at Walmer, Mr. Robert Hookham, of the "Nelson Inn,"
aged 36 years.
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From Kentish Gazette 02 June 1863.
WALMER. SHIP'S DINING TABLE AND LIFE BOAT.
On Thursday a novel scene presented itself opposite the "Lord Nelson"
Inn, to witness the display of an invention by Capt. Sayer, R.N., of
Statenborough, Eastry. Shortly after 12 o'clock a waggon arrived
containing a small parcel of what appeared to be fir wood, but which,
after taken out of the waggon, was very soon converted into a dining
table, with seats all round it. A cloth was spread on it, and a dinner
provided by Mr. Ford, landlord of the "Lord Nelson Inn," was served up.
The spread consisted of the good old English cheer of roast beef and
plum pudding, and Capt. Sayer, Mr. H. Marsh, and four boatmen having
done ample justice to it, the table was in four minutes converted into a
life boat. The boat was launched, and Captain Sayer, Mr. H. Marsh, and
the four boatmen that had recently dined on it proceeded out in the
Downs. They rowed round a vessel, and found that the boat answered
admirably. With her six occupants she did not draw 6 inches of water.
When she returned to the shore, the Royal Marines were paraded near the
spot and their commanding officer allowed them to break off for a short
time to view the invention. As the boat neared the shore admirably, the
Marines gave the crew three hearty cheers. As soon as she beached Mr,
Marsh and the boatmen jumped out, but, at the request of the Royal
Marines the gallant captain retained his seat, and they shouldered the
boat (with the captain in it) and carried him to the waggon. The boat
is constructed of inch fir, and is about 16 feet long, 3 feet 6 inches
wide, and about 2 feet 6 inches deep. The sides are on hinges, and are
fastened together with nuts and bolts. Her thwarts also have nuts and
bolts to fasten to her sides, and she is fitted with a small rudder and
oars. If required for a table by taking out the nuts and bolts and
reversing her sides, a table is formed sufficiently large to dine 30
people, and her thwarts make the forms. If not wanted for a table the
boat may be stowed away in a very small space of not more than 2 inches
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From the East Kent Mercury, June 1904.
The five-year old daughter of landlord, Charles Gladwell, was playing outside the
public house when she was run over by a milk cart as she crossed the
road and suffered severe grazing to her ear and face as the wheel passed
over her.
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Around 1936 when the pub was under the reign of Arthur William White it became a hotel.
A Charrington & Co. outlet in 1974.
The Trafalgar restaurant open in 2009.
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From the Dover Express, 3 September, 2009
Luxury lunch ends as fast food
Happy ending after spoilt celebration
Report by Yamurai Zendera
A COUPLE planning to celebrate their wedding anniversary in style
after winning a voucher for a free gourmet lunch for two ended up
tucking into a McDonald's after being told the token was void.
Jean Jennings, 56, of Tower Hamlets Road, Dover, won a two-course
Sunday lunch for two at the Trafalgar Restaurant, Lord Nelson pub, in
Walmer, in a Christmas raffle last year.
So cleaner Jean and her machine-operator husband Paul, 51, booked to
go on Sunday, August 23 - the eve of Jean's 56th birthday and two days
before their eighth wedding anniversary.
But when they arrived, their romantic day quickly turned sour as the
restaurant's new owner told them their token was no longer valid because
it was issued before he took over.
So the cheesed-off couple drove back to Dover, where Paul, to salvage
the day, bought Jean a CD player as a birthday present. Then the pair
nipped into McDonald's, in Biggin Street, for some fast food.
Reflecting on how the day went horribly wrong, Jean, who is in
remission from breast cancer, said: "I was so angry with the restaurant
in Walmer. We drove all the way there for nothing. It was meant to be a
birthday and anniversary treat."
But when The Express contacted the restaurant's new owner, Stefan
Godden, the big-hearted businessman offered the Jennings a free meal for
two to make up for the disappointment.
When we told the Jennings, who have two children between them, of
Stefan's kind offer, they said: "We are very grateful to him for doing
that. It's such a nice gesture. We'll definitely go there."
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From the Dover Express, 24 September, 2009
Stefan takes the helm of his own restaurant at 20
It's nerve-wracking but satisfying says entrepreneur
Report by Yamurai Zendera
WHILE others his age are studying or scraping by on student loans,
20-year-old Stefan Godden is busy running his own restaurant.
Stefan is the new owner of Nelson's Galley, in Walmer, which is inside
the Lord Nelson's pub, on the Strand.
The former Channel School pupil, who has worked in kitchens since he was
14, said he has been on a steep learning curve since taking on the
business.
He said: "It's nerve-wracking having your own business. It gives you a
lot of understanding on how to handle your money. There is still lots I
have to learn, but I really want this to succeed."
Stefan said he decided to buy the restaurant as he can see potential for
further growth.
He said: "It was a perfect opportunity. I worked here before and I got
gifted the opportunity to take it. I reckon I can give something Deal
has not got. Deal has not got anything like this. Everything here is
about seafood."
Enterprising Stefan said he intends to change the name of
the restaurant to Nelson's Galley and Grill Family Restaurant, and turn
it into a venue attracting families. He is planning to showcase a new
menu on Friday, October 9 at 6pm, which the public is welcome to attend.
He said: "The business is not doing too bad at the moment, but I want to
launch a new menu focused on grills, steaks, gammons and pies.
"I'm also concentrating on Christmas. People will have to pre-book for
Christmas Day and New Year's Eve.
"When a customer walks out of my restaurant happy it's a great feeling
as I know we've done a good job."
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Information I have received tells me that unfortunately the current
licensee is very ill in hospital and the pub has had to close. 2011.
Information received in May 2014 says the pub is open again, but
operating under the new name of the "Lighthouse."
LICENSEE LIST
SIMMONDS William Bunce 1801-11
SIMMONS Tomas 1806+
HOLTON William 1811-12
STURGES John 1812-15
GRAVES James 1815-16
SCOTT Francis 1816-19
COULDER James 1819-21
ELLEN Thomas 1828+
(Walmer Road)
ELLEN Sarah 1828-1840s (   HELLEN, Walmer Road)
HOOKHAM John 1840s+
SMITH Benjamin 1847+
HOOKHAM William 1851+ (age 75 in 1851 )
MARSH Henry 1854-62 (age 48 in 1861)
FOORD Silas 1862-66
HANBROOK John 1866-74
WILLEY Simeon 1874-78
 
BARRETT Harry 1878-89
WELLARD William 1889+
BATCHELOR Richard 1891+ (age 37 in 1891)
WILLIAMS N S 1898+
DOUGHTY James Randall 1899+
GLADWELL Charles 1903-13
WHITE Arthur 1913 dec'd
GLADWELL Minnie B Mrs 1913+
WHITE Mrs A 1914
PHILLIPS Mrs Alice 1918-30+
  
WHITE Arthur William 1934-38+
 
HARDING A 21/Dec/1939-1957
JOLLY A F 1957-1963+
GOODMAN Bob & Dulcie 1969-72
AUSTEN James R 1972-74+
Charrington & Co
CLIFT Thomas & STAPLETON Lesley 1985+
LUNN Christopher 1994-98
OLIVER Phil 1998+
BURNETT Richard & Bernadette 2004-31/Dec/2010
https://pubwiki.co.uk/LordNelson.shtml
From the Pigot's Directory 1828-29
From the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34
From the Pigot's Directory 1839
From the Pigot's Directory 1840
From
Bagshaw Directory 1847
From Melville's Directory 1858
From the Kelly's Directory 1862
From the Post Office Directory 1874
From the Kelly's Directory 1874
From the Post Office Directory 1882
From
the Kelly's Directory 1899
From the Kelly's Directory 1903
From the Post Office Directory 1913
Deal Library List 1914
From the Post Office Directory 1918
From the Post Office Directory 1922
From the Post Office Directory 1930
From
the Kelly's Directory 1934
From the Post Office Directory 1938
Library archives 1974
 From the Dover Telegraph
Census
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