From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 31 August, 1894. 1d.
DOVER BREWSTER SESSIONS
The annual Brewster Sessions of the Borough of Dover was held in the
Court House. Town hall, on Monday at mid-day. The following magistrates
were present:- Dr. Astley (in the chair), W. J. Adcock, M. Pepper, F. W.
Prescott, G. Fry, C. W. Bagshaw, J. L. Bradley, A. Bottle, T. A. Terson,
and G. R. Killick, Esqrs.
THE OLD LICENSES RENEWED
Dr. Astley, on the Magistrates taking their seats, announced that they
had had under consideration the report of the Superintendent of Police,
and it appeared that the licensed houses throughout the Borough had been
most carefully and well conducted, though there were three or four
exceptions which would be noticed.
The names of the public houses were then called, and the licensees were,
except in the following cases renewed without remark.
THE DOLPHIN INN
The Chairman addressed the landlord, G. Blanche, said that they found
that on the 11th of May, 1894, he had been fined 21s. and costs for
keeping open his premises for the sale of intoxicating liquors at 11.40
p.m. He had been instructed to caution him that if any error occur
again, in all probability they would take away his license. They would
grant it on this occasion, but hoped that he would be extremely cautions
as to the manner I which he conducted his house in the future.
Mr. Lance said that he should like to say that it was simply a private
party, and no money passed, he was not aware of the law at the time, but
he would see that it did not occur again.
THE RED LION
It was stated that Mr. E. W. Knocker had an application for a
provisional license in reference to this house, but the old license was
renewed, the new application to come on later.
THE BRITISH QUEEN
The chairman addressing Mr. Appleton, landlord of the “British Queen,”
said that they found that on the 11th of June he had been fined £5 and
9s. 6d. costs for keeping open his premises at 12.55 p.m. It must have
been a serious case for the Magistrates to impose such a heavy fine, but
the license had not been endoesed, so that they would grant it this
time, but he must be careful that there was not a mistake again.
THE GUILDHALL
The Chairman also cautioned Mr. Poffely, landlord of the above, who on
the 16th of April was fined 20s. and 9s. 6d. costs for keeping the
premises open at 11.45 p.m.
THE LORD WOLSELEY
Mr. G. Saunders, landlord of the “Lord Wolseley,” who had been fined
40s. for keeping his premises open at 11.40 p.m., was also cautioned.
COURT AND CO
The license in the name of Mr. P. S. Court was transferred to Mr. Jas.
R. Mann, registered Secretary of the Company.
THE LIBERTIES
It was announced that no application would be considered from the
Liberties, except from Ringwould, but would be adjourned to the
Broadstairs adjourned Sessions on September the 2nd.
THE ROYAL STANDARD
Mr. M. Mowll applied for the license of the “Royal Standard” to be
transferred from Hanson to Robert Watson.
Robert Watson said he resided at the “Royal Standard,” and had entered
into an agreement with Messrs. Beer and Co. to hire the same.
Mr. G. Fry said that he passed by the place very frequently, and the
house for several years had been conducted in a most disgraceful way. He
did not like to say anything that would reflect on the Superintendent,
but the scenes that had occurred outside the house tended to show it had
not been looked after properly, and if it were conducted in the same way
by the new tenant, he should feel it his duty next year to call
attention to it.
Mr. M. Mowll said he was exceedingly sorry that the house had been so
badly conducted, but there had been no charge before the Court, and he
pointed out that it was a tramps' house, and therefore very difficult to
manage.
A letter was read from the Chatham police, stating that the applicant
had kept a common lodging house at Chatham, and his character was in
every way satisfactory.
The application was granted.
THE RED LION
This was an application for a provisional license. Mr. E. W. Knocker,
who appeared for the applicant, Mrs. Dane, landlady of the “Red Lion,”
said that it was nominally in her name, but actually made by Messrs.
Leney and Co., who were about to pull the house down and re-build the
premises, and also to include some adjoining cottage property. As the
house was used as a common lodging house, the re-building and additions
were very necessary.
The formal notices, &c., having been proved, the consideration of the
application was adjourned until later in the day, when it was granted.
THE GRANVILLE HALL
Mr. M. Mowll made an application for permission to sell beer at the
Granville Hall on behalf of Mr. G. H. Mowll, a wine license being
already in existence.
Mr. Hill, of Ramsgate, opposed this application on behalf of Mr. W. D.
Adams. Mr. Hart, of Folkestone appeared to oppose on behalf of the Dover
Licensed Victuallers. Mr. m. Bradley on behalf of the Dover Temperance
Council, and Dr. Hardman, of Deal, on behalf of the owners of the
“Shakespeare Hotel.”
Dr. Hardman raised a formal objection that the notices were not posted
on the old parish church of St. James', but this was overruled.
Mr. G. H. Mowll said there was already a wine license attached to the
premises. There was no beer engine in the premises, and it was not his
intention to have one, and it was not his intention to sell draught
beer, except bottle beer, on the premises. Witness was keeping the
premises purely and simply as a restaurant.
By Mr. Hill: Witness has been occupier of the premises three weeks or a
month. The premises opened out into public gardens, and people had a
right to go into them if they wished.
Mr. Stilwell said that his impression was that there was no access into
the public gardens under the lease of the premises to Mr. Mowll.
Mr. M. Mowll argued that it would be of benefit to the public, and that,
with the exception of the Dover Temperance Council, whose position was
quite intelligible, the remainder of the opposition was trade
opposition, the worth of which the Bench would fully appreciate.
Mr. Hills, who spoke very strongly against the application, argued that
there was not at present a single public house on the Sea Front, and as
this application, not withstanding whatever promise was made now,
amounted to that; for that reason they should refuse it. He pictured the
objections that would arise if trippers and beanfeasters after dining
there were to come out on the Sea Front or go into the Granville
Gardens.
Mr. hart, of Folkestone, also spoke strongly on the question.
Mr. M. Bradley asked the Bench to recollect their declaration of three
years ago, when they said that there were too many licenses in Dover and
asked that steps should be taken to reduce the number. He pointed out
that since then the “Grand Hotel” license had been granted, and although
it had been promised that there should be no bar, there was one, and no
one could say that the promise in respect to this application would also
not be broken.
Dr. Hardman also spoke against the application.
AN OFF LICENSE
Mr. Charles Lewis Adams applied for a license to sell bottled beers to
be consumed off the premises for his branch established at Park Place.
Mr. E. Carden supported the application, Mr. Hart, of Folkestone,
appeared on behalf of the Licensed Victuallers, and Mr. Montague Bradley
on behalf of the Temperance Council. The notices having been proved.
Mr. C. L. Adams entered the witness box and stated that he was the
holder of a beer dealer's license in the same premises and he now
applied for a license to sell bottled ale by retail, because a good many
of his customers told him that it was too far to go to his establishment
in Snargate Street. The district was a growing one and there was no
regular wine merchant above the Market Square. His ground landlords the
Commissioners of Woods and Forest had granted him permission to hold
such a license as he was applying for. That permission, however,
strictly prohibited him from selling beer on draught.
In reply to Mr. Bradley, the witness said that he was aware that there
were the “Wheat Sheaf,” the “Park Inn,” and the “Sir John Falstaff”
near, but he could not say whether bottled beer could be bought there as
he proposed to sell it.
Mr. Hart, in addressing the Bench in opposition, on behalf of the
Licensed Victuallers, contended that the application was really for an
ordinary license for the sale of beef off the premises. And there would
be nothing to prevent him supplying it in jugs except the permit from
the Woods and Forests, and that might be as easily varied as obtained.
Mr. Bradley, on behalf of the Temperance Council, strongly contended
that there was no need for further facilities for obtaining alcoholic
liquors in the district.
ORANGE TREE
Mr. W. Curling applied for a license for selling beer to be consumed on
the premises at the “Orange Tree,” Maxton. Mr. Hills, of Margate
supported the application, and Mr. Bradley appeared on behalf of the
Temperance Council.
Mr. Hills, in addressing the Bench, said that all the people in Maxton
were in favour of this license being granted, and 90 had signed a
memorial in favour of it.
Mr. Curling said he believed the license which he applied for was a
necessity. 90 out of 113 householders signed in its favour. He obtained
the signatures mostly himself. The nearest licensed house was half a
mile away.
Cross-examined by Mr. Bradley: The “Hare and Hounds” was not half a mile
away, but that was out of the Borough; that was about a quarter of a
mile further on the Folkestone Road. His object in seeking the license
was to offer the people of Maxton the means on enjoying themselves by
spending an hour or two together in his house of an evening.
Mr. Major, a resident at Maxton, spoke strongly in favour of the
license, and if the Bench did not grant it, they were not Englishmen.
Mr. Hill said he had been fee'd to address the bench, and asked the
witness to detest from doing so.
Cross-examination by Mr. Bradley: Witness said that when a man went for
his supper beer he wanted to wet his whistle, and if he drank out of the
jug in going home, his wife would call it bad measure. He had been to
the “Hare and Hounds.” It would take him twenty minutes to go there. He
might go quicker if very thirsty. There had been a great increase of the
population of Maxton. He should judge that they had increased three-fold
from looking at the number of children about.
Mr. Bradley having addressed the Bench against the granting of the
license, the Magistrates retired, and were absent a quarter of an hour.
When they returned, Dr. Astley said: the first license in the list is
that for the enlargement of the “Red Lion.” That the Magistrates grant.
The next application is that of Mr. G. H. Mowll to sell beer to be
consumed on the premises at the “Granville Restaurant.” The Magistrates
have decided to refuse it. The next is Mr. Charles Lewis Adam's
application for a license to sell beer to be consumed off the premises
at 5, Park Place. That the Magistrates grant. The next is Mr. W.
Curling's application. A similar application had been before the
Magistrates several times, and they still hold the same view and refuse
it.
THE GRAND HOTEL
On the name of the “Grand Hotel” being called Alderman Adcock said that
he reserved to himself the right of addressing the Bench on the subject
of that license when it came up for consideration.
Mr. G. F. Fry said he hoped that the plans of the Hotel submitted to the
Bench when the license was obtained would be produced, as he was under
the impression that the bar had not been constructed in accordance with
the plans.
The Chairman: No doubt the plans will be forthcoming.
Mr. Keeler the Secretary of the Hotel Company said that he should be
happy to produce the plans, and they should show that Mr. Fry was
entirely under a misapprehension.
Later Mr. M. Bradley expressed his opinion that the bar was not in
accordance with the statement made on the application for the license.
After the new applications had been dealt with, Mr. F. Hills said that
owing to the remarks that had been made on the Bench, he had been
instructed to formally apply for the renewal of the “Grand Hotel”
license, no notice of opposition having been given.
Mr. Adcock said he wished to make a few observations on the matter of
the “Grand Hotel” license.
Mr. Hills asked if Mr. Adcock was addressing the bench as a Magistrate.
Mr. Adcock said he wished to address the Bench as a Magistrate. He said
it was his good fortune three years ago to occupy the honourable
position of mayor of Dover, and he occupied the position which Dr.
Astley then so worthily filled. It would be in his recollection of all
the Magistrates present that when the application for the “Grand Hotel”
license was made, a witness on behalf of the Hotel went into the box and
said that they did not intend to have a public bar to be used as a
drinking bar, and that there would be no bar beyond a restaurant counter
in the basement. The plans showing the proposed bar in the basement were
put in as evidence and signed by him (Mr. Adcock) as Chairman. There was
no mention of any bar except in the basement restaurant which was to
measure 22 feet by 20 feet. The Magistrates granted the license on the
assumption that there would be no public house bar. The arrangement had
not been carried out according to those plans and the position of the
bar was altogether different. What would have been the fate of the
application had it been shown that the bar would be up a passage? He
ventured to say the license never would have been granted. His complaint
was that the plans which were submitted to the magistrates three years
ago, when the application was made, had never been attempted to be
carried out – in face they were ignored, and the bar instead of being in
the basement was put up a passage. He fully recognised the good which
the “Grand Hotel” had been to Dover, and he had no desire to hamper in
any way the business of the “Grand Hotel,” therefore he did not mean to
take any action on this occasion, but he wished to say if the bar were
continued up the passage, steps would be taken next year and notice
given that the renewal of the license would be opposed. He considered a
bar up a passage would be one of the worst kind of bars. Many people who
would be ashamed to go from the public street into a public house to
drink, or down the steps in front of the hotel, but would go up that
passage, and therefore it would be an encouragement to sly drinking. He
had suggested that the renewal of the “Grand Hotel” license should be
adjourned to Broadstairs in order that the facts might be ascertained,
but he bowed to the opinion of his brother Magistrates in allowing the
matter to stand over for another year, on the understanding that there
would be an objection to the license if it were not in the meantime some
alteration.
Mr. Hill said that no notice had been given of the opposition, but as
there would be no opposition this year, he would reserve his remarks on
that point.
Mr. J. L. Bradley also speaking from the Bench said that he quite agreed
with the remarks of Mr. Alderman Adcock. It was quite understood when
this license was granted that there was no bar except in the basement of
the Hotel.
Mr. Hill said that if his instructions were correct, the alterations in
the plans were submitted and sanctioned when the provisional license was
confirmed.
Mr. Adcock: We did not know of any variation.
Mr. Vidler (the Clerk) said that it was stated that the bar issued of
being in front would be at the side.
The proceedings then terminated.
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