13 La Belle Alliance Square
Ramsgate
01843 592554
https://whatpub.com/camden-arms
Above photo, date unknown. |
Above photo, circa 1973, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe. |
Above photo taken from Google maps, July 2012.
Photo hopefully to be updated. |
Above sign left 2012. Sign right 2020.
With thanks from Brian Curtis
www.innsignsociety.com.
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Above photo showing Hugh C Hunter, and what looks like his fishing
trophies, circa 1930. |
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Above photo kindly sent by Bob Lee. |
From the Kentish Gazette, 30 April 1839.
Ramsgate.
An inquisition was held on Saturday se'nnight, before R. J. Emmerson,
esq., at the "Camden Arms Inn," on the body of Henry Preston, a
labourer, who was found dead in his bed the previous morning. It
appeared by the evidence that he went to bed in good health, but
complained to his wife in the morning of feeling unwell, who persuaded
him to lie while she prepared his breakfast, and on taking it up stairs,
found him a corpse. The jury returned a verdict of' "Died by the
visitation of God."
Also on the same day, on the body of Charles Wittenton, a fisherman, who
was found drowned in the basin of this harbour on the day previous. The
evidence in this case showed that he came on board his boat, (which was
laden with oysters and belonging to Dover) late the previous evening,
much intoxicated, and it is supposed fell over the side while in that
state, without being observed, as he was not missed until he was found
the following morning at low water under the boat's bottom.
A verdict of "found drowned" was recorded.
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Kentish Gazette, 7 May 1844.
RAMSGATE.
An inquisition was held at Crisford’s, "Camden Arms Inn," on Wednesday,
before R. J. Emmerson, coroner, on the body of James
Kingsford, a child four years of age, who came by his death under the
following circumstances, as by the evidence adduced:-
The day previous (Tuesday) the mother of the child was out at work as a
laundress, in Bell Vue Place, and with two other children,
was playing near a well in an area at the back of the house, which had
not been lately used, the lid of which was in a very
dilapidated state, and it is supposed he jumped on the lid, which gave
way, and was suffocated by the foul air which the well
contained. An alarm was immediately given by the other children, and a
labourer, named Gorham, was let down by a rope obtained
from the next house, who brought the child up quite dead. The man Gorham
also fainted from exhaustion on his getting out, but by
means of brandy was speedily restored.
A verdict of "Accidental Death"
was recorded.
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Kentish Gazette, 16 July 1844.
RAMSGATE. Daring Robbery.
On Monday evening, Mr. Burke, a well-known commercial traveller, of the
firm of Swaine and Co., distillers, London, was proceeding from Hodges’
"Castle Hotel," to the "Camden Arms," St. George’s Steps he was accosted
by a respectably-dressed female, when two men, who were in ambush a
short distance from the spot, rushed upon him and held his arms, when
the woman forced her hand in his pocket and abstracted a purse,
containing 108 sovereigns, and ran away. He made a grasp at her dress,
and tore away a piece of habit shirt which he held tight, and
immediately gave an alarm to the police on duty, who with their usual
vigilance, succeeded the following morning in tracing the party to the
"Honeysuckle," at Hereson. On the woman being questioned as to her torn
habit shirt, she said her husband had done it last week, but on
comparing it, it exactly matched both in the rent of the muslin and
pattern to the piece, given by Mr. Burke to the police the previous
evening. She was taken into custody, together with a man and woman who
were found in her company, and was examined before the magistrates on
Tuesday, who remanded them all to Sandwich for safe custody till their
final hearing. One sovereign only was found on the woman.
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From the Kentish Gazette, 14 November 1848.
RAMSGATE.
The Members of the "Ramsgate Forty Pounds Burial Society" held their
seventh annual meeting, on Wednesday week, at the "Camden Arms Inn,”
Camden Place, for the purpose of electing fresh officers for the ensuing
year, declaring the state of the funds, the members’ deaths, and other
transactions of the Committee during the preceding year. It appeared, by
the Secretary's report, that after all the amount of expenses there is
upwards of £100 in the Savings Bank, — and, that since the commencement
of the Club, in November, 1841, there have been 38 deaths — for which
the large sum of £1520 has been paid to the relatives of the deceased
members, showing at once the great good derivable from persons
associating themselves together for mutual benefit to their families,
and that too, at a time of their greatest need. There are vacancies for
a few members, to complete the number of 420; persons of either sex are
eligible, who are in sound health, and under 40 years of age. It behoves
those who appreciate the value of such societies to avail themselves of
an early opportunity of being enrolled as members. After the business of
the Club had been gone through, the remainder of the evening was spent
in good fellowship and harmony.
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From the Kentish Chronicle, 18 May, 1861.
CHARGE OF ASSAULT.
At the Ramsgate Petty Sessions on Monday, James Snelling, a lad aged 16
years, was charged with assaulting Thomas Gowan, on the 16th inst. Defendant pleaded not guilty. Complainant depose:— I live at 7, Camden-square. On Monday last, at
about one p.m., I was passing the “Camden Arms.” There were five or six
boys. Defendant was one of them. I was hit on the head with a stone, and
I turned round and saw the defendant throw a stone at me, which did not
hit me. Mr. Beeching and others run out to my assistance, but defendant
was too nimble for Mr. Beeching. He ran away down by the side of the
“Camden Arms” to Bellevue Hill. I am very much annoyed by the boys, and
can’t even go out of a Sunday without being annoyed by them. Mr. Chappel said he could testify to that fact. He had himself been once
taken for complainant, and been much insulted. Mr. Crofton, addressing the defendant, said:— It has been proved to us
that you have been guilty of the conduct you are charged with. Mr. Gowan
must be protected, and it is not to be tolerated that he should be
worried and hunted about by such idle boys as you and others are, and if
the gentleman's evidence, and that of Mr. Beeching had been taken, we
might have dealt with you more severely than it is our intention this
time to do. Police-sergeant Carter said that when he served the summons upon the
lad, that his mother severely reprimanded him. Mr. Crofton said he was glad to hear that he hoped this would be a
warning to defendant and others for they might depend upon it if he or
others were brought before the bench for a similar offence they would be
severely punished. The fine in this case would he 2s. and costs 10s. 6d. Mr. Chappel stepping forward, said— He felt very strongly upon this
matter for he felt such conduct tended to hurt the town. He last summer
had a very nice family at his house but they were so annoyed by the boys
that they declared that they would not come again. He said the people of
the town should endeavour to improve themselves if they wanted to get
visitors to come to them; he felt sure that the steps which had been
taken by Mr. Gowan, together with what had fallen from the bench, that
the nuisance, if not altogether done away with, would be abated, and as
he thought the fine and costs would fall heavily on the parents of the
defendant he would pay them himself. Here the matter dropped. |
Kentish Gazette, Tuesday 8 December 1863.
Ramsgate. "Camden Arms Inn."
To be let - Possession of Christmas - this old established Inn, in a
good and improving neighbourhood.
Apply to Friend and Vinton, Auctioneers, Ramsgate.
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Damaged during the raid of 24 August 1940. The following passage is from
a description of the area at the time:- Coming into La Belle Square, it
appeared at first that the houses there had escaped but it was not so. Along
the eastern side, most of the windows of the houses, and all the "Camden
Arms" were splintered.
East Kent Times and Mail, Wednesday 17 April 1968.
Broadstairs landlord is champion.
First winner of the new Thomson and Wotton Albright landlords darts
competition is Norman Ette, mine host of the "Lord Nelson,"
Broadstairs.
In the brewery clubroom at Ramsgate last Wednesday he beat Charlie
Green, of the "George and Dragon," Ramsgate, in two straight legs.
Playing consistently well, Ette deserved his victories in the
semi-final he eliminated Alf Wrightson, of the "Camden Arms,"
Ramsgate by a similar margin.
In his semi-final, Green lost firstly by a big margin but came back
to win the next two legs and accomplished the surprise defeat of V.
Brown of the "Wheatsheaf," Ash.
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From
http://www.theguardian.com. Friday 11 November 2011
Man filmed repeatedly swinging cat hands himself in.
An RSPCA spokeswoman has confirmed that a 20-year-old suspect is helping
with inquiries into the animal cruelty case.
CCTV cameras captured a man swinging a cat by its tail outside the
"Camden Arms" pub in Ramsgate, Kent.
A man apparently filmed on CCTV repeatedly swinging a cat by its tail
has handed himself in to police in Margate, Kent, the day after a public
outcry when the incident was publicised.
The cameras captured events outside the "Camden Arms" pub in Ramsgate, at
8.30pm on 29 October, when a man picked up the black cat by the tail and
walked down the street dangling it at arm's length and then repeatedly
swinging it up in the air.
An RSPCA spokeswoman confirmed that a 20-year-old man had handed himself
in, and was helping with inquiries.
The animal charity had described the incident as "a very violent, nasty
attack on a cat" and appealed to anyone who recognised the man to come
forward. "Anyone who witnessed this outside the pub must have been as
shocked and appalled as we were."
The two-year-old cat, named Mowgli, is one of three owned by Michelle
Buchanan, an IT teacher from Ramsgate. She said: "It's horrific. I can't
believe anyone would do something that cruel. Mowgli is emotional. He's
just distraught. He won't go out the door."
Last year in Coventry the RSPCA prosecuted Mary Bale, caught on camera
throwing a four-year-old cat, Lola, into a bin. The cat survived, but
Bale, who said she had been depressed, received hate mail. She was fined
£250 for causing suffering.
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From the
http://www.courier.co.uk 1 June, 2012.
Ramsgate cat cruelty case thrown out over lack of evidence.
THE trial has collapsed of a man accused of swinging a cat around by its
tail outside Ramsgate's Camden Arms.
Magistrates decided that CCTV images showing the incident, in October
last year, were not clear enough to proceed with the case.
Riain Richards, 20, of Clements Road had denied causing unnecessary
suffering to an animal.
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I am informed that the premises is now (2021) owned by local businessmen
Keith Clark.
LICENSEE LIST
CRISFORD John 1839-47+ (age 40 in 1841)
CRISFORD Elizabeth Mrs 1851-55+
MURRAY Elizabeth Mrs 1858+
CRISFORD Elizabeth Miss 1861-62+ (age 24 in 1861)
BUTLER Frederick 1871-82+ (age 44 in 1881)
NOBEL George Charles 1890-91+ (age 57 in 1891)
MARTIN William R 1901+ (age 39 in 1901)
TOMSETT George 1903+
YEOMAN William 1907+
PIERCE Joseph William 1911+ (age 50 in 1911)
HUNTER Hugh C 1913-57+ (Phone 554 in 1937)
WRIGHTSON Alf 1968+
CLARK Keith ????
HARDEIE June & John 1976+
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Census
From the Kelly's Directory 1903
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